Nintendoom? Not today folks.
Let's see how people try and spin this as negative news!
Sony stocks also got highest in 4 years, seems Japan is doing well now.
That mobile game partnership with DeNA has worked wonders for Nintendo just like analysts predicted. Nintendo fans never believed that Nintendo going mobile was the right thing to do....until Nintendo went mobile. The company had almost half the market capitalization prior to the announcement. If we look at the graph we see that the stock price suddenly spiked in March right when Nintendo announced the partnership. It has been going high ever since. Prior to the announcement a single share was being sold for $14 and now it is being sold for $21.6. It means that people are expecting big sales and profits for Nintendo's mobile games so they are buying the stock quickly and as a result prices continue to rise. On the side note, Sony's market capitalization is at $35.55 billion and a single share is being sold for $30.7 at the moment.
No, Japan and the world economy is still in a depression, and it's getting worse. Stock prices worldwide are in the biggest bubble in HISTORY. The price of a stock doesn't tell you anything real anymore. It's smoke and mirrors. Not for Nintendo. Not for Sony. Not for Microsoft.
Greiver, you're missing one important fact: Nintendo isn't putting out console-quality games on mobile, which is what Nintendo fans wanted them to avoid and, thankfully, Nintendo saw it the same way. People like Micheal Pachter and some of Nintendo's investors wanted to see older games like Super Mario Bros. on mobile so they could microtransaction you to get Mario to jump higher, but that's not what is happening. Nintendo has not "gone mobile". More like they're "dabbling in mobile". It's an experiment, and not one done by dropping consoles to go third party, which was part of the whole "go mobile" package that a lot of anti-Nintendo gamers were tossing out in comments prior to this. To the benefit of both Nintendo and consumers, there's a clear separation in Nintendo's plans for mobile and consoles.
this is why nintendo will continue recyling obsolete last gen tech in its hardware- it increases their profit margins. win for them as they laugh all the way to the bank, but gamers lose out because the saving nintendo make using old junk tech isnt passed on to consumers, we get tech past its sell by date and the industry suffers because one of the most innovative companies is using tech nobody wants to develop games for..
What's funny about your comment is that even during the GC years Nintendo lost 3rd party market share and it was mostly due to Microsoft pushing money around. PS2 was already selling like crazy so 3rd party companies started to see that when desperate, console makers will shell out cash to receive equal support. This is one area where they haven't been able to break Nintendo into. Nintendo's next console could be twice as powerful as the PS4 and it wouldn't receive the same support as the PS5 or next Xbox.
No thanks to the WiiU.
How do you figure? Nintendo just announced that sales are 20% higher then last year. Nintendo each year has been making a steady stride of progress each year. Since 2013 Nintendo has seen sales increase 20% year over year. Also Nintendo has been selling the Wii U as a profit and not a loss since late 2013 or early 2014 can't remember. So yes the Wii U has been adding money slowly but surly over the last few years.
Hes right the things not selling well at all its the 3ds and amiibo thats doing the sales. Sure WiiU makes a little profit but unless you get some serious consoles out there fast enough the cost to make games soon enough outweighs the profits from those games and that little bit from the console sales wont make up for that. It's selling worse than the gamecube in terms of sales right now and they abandoned that after 6 years saying that games stopped after 4. Its starting to look like the wiiu games are dying already I mean you cant count on 1 hand right now the AAA 1st party games in development by nintendo . Last year there was plenty now we got Zelda and thats about it splatoon and mario maker and smaller budget games that will make minimal profit. nintendo look already to be aboning this console. But Nintendo are the kings of making you rebuy the same console over and over as lets be fair that new 3ds thats just come out? Its just a souped up DS and if the DS was still out there would be no change in the lineup of games right now. Nintendo make new hardware of DS to shaft it consumers and it works like a charm and force you to upgrade the only company better at doing this is Apple.
3DS >>>> WiiU
Nintendo must have had a major boost because of those amiibos. Dang those things are selling like crazy. 3ds is doing fantastic and the wii u is not doing too shabby. I would say Nintendo is in a good position right now. They just need to make sure to continue to make quality games and for their next hardware to be a unique name with a good launch. Here is to another 125 years Nintendo!!!
They are selling like crazy however we don't know if the popularity is as high as we see nintendo is purposely shorting the market like they did with the wii to make it look like demand is high I mean otherwise there would be a steady flow of those Marth figures we shouldnt have to wait for a nintendo direct for them to say theres another batch of like 10k coming in 3 months.
Every Wii U sold is sold at a profit for Nintendo. They are fine. 3DS is hotcakes...
Nothing against Nintendo but this is because QE in Japan, EU and US has created excess liquidity buy buying trillions of dollars of bonds. When Central banks buy bonds they give investors cash, those investors then have to put that cash somewhere. Either they buy other bonds, driving interest rates down (they are actually negative in Europe), or they buy stocks. This is why every non commodity (oil, gas and metals - like Canada, Australia, Russia, Norway) stock market is at all time highs. If you look at earnings, GDP growth or commodity prices, none of them support current stock prices. It's like 1999 or 2008 all over again.
It has nothing to do with that. It is because Nintendo did a deal with a massive Mobile games company called DeNa. DeNa is a massive company in Japan, they own a famous baseball team.. they make millions of dollars a month on mobile games. The deal they did gave Nintendo 10% of DeNa. DeNa got 1% of Nintendo.
hey nintendo owns the Seattle mariners.. on topic: nintendo is doing fine even if the wiiu is going according to plan..still making more money than sony as a whole... http://i.imgur.com/nXPruDN....
Actually, Nintendo as a business they are pretty good, but for the gamers. They've been out of touch. Just because they've been successful over profits, doesn't mean they are making their longtime loyal mario fans happy over the years. And people are actually surprised by this? They even want money from youtube, and they even price snes games expensive, and not to mention how is the Wii U still even $300? They are probably spending like $180 for every Wii U right now with that kind of low-end specs.
Agreed. Yes they are making money, how much of that is to buy teams to make more exclusive games? One must question a company that focuses on such a thing yet doesn't use its funds to buy more teams. Why is it that Sony made the least last gen yet bought more teams then the company that made the most? 3DS and Wii U should have never had such dry launches... Yet PS4 and XONE had amazing launches.... I'm sorry but Nintendo is clearly not doing right by its fans.
Nintenso isn't doing as bad as sony. Billion dollar losses and completely abandoning the vita fanbase - Sony should be ashamed of themselves.
Wait... What??? Not doing right by their fans??? Umm Nintendo resurrected Bayonetta from the dump because SEGA, Sony, or Microsoft didn't want anything to do with it. Bayonetta 2 comes out and was a runner up for game of the year. Also the Nintendo community asked if Bayonetta 1 would come with 2 and sure enough Nintendo through the game in as a free bonus incentive. Then the Nintendo community asked for DLC for Mario Kart 8. Nintendo then releases what some are calling the greatest DLC ever released at an affordable deal. Then the community asked for Super Smash Brothers Wii U DLC. Nintendo announces Mewtwo and just recently Lucas from Mother 3 as DLC. On top of that Nintendo then asked the community which fighter would WE like as DLC and opened a fighter ballot for us to vote. Then the Nintendo community asked for a new Star Fox game. Nintendo then announces a new Star Fox game will be out by 2015. (This just keeps going on...) Then the community begged Nintendo to localize Fatal Frame 5 for the west. Oh can you guess what Nintendo did as of April 1st? Nintendo announces Fatal Frame 5 is coming to Europe and the States. Finally... but I'm sure not the last thing Nintendo has done for its fans. We asked for Earthbound to be released for the Virtual Console. Nintendo brings Earthbound to the Virtual Console. So don't sit there and try to say Nintendo hasn't been doing right by its community. Oh, Oh I forgot one more thing. We asked Nintendo for New IPS. Nintendo brings out Splatoon, Wonderful 101, Code Name Steam, and Captain Toad Treasure Tracker in just the last few years.
@Mii-gamer- I see fanboy alert is on high with this one. Sooooooooo we not questioning why even with Sony's loses they still bought more teams then Nintendo which resulted in a successful launch and PS4 outselling both XONE and Wii U despite Wii U being cheaper and out longer? ....I see. Even with those loses...they bought teams. What exactly is Nintendo's excuse to why the Wii U has such a weak line up of games? This isn't a Sony vs Nintendo thing, this is a Company buying teams vs Company not buying teams thing... MS could have done the same and I would use them as the example, mind you...even MS bought more teams last gen then Nintendo. Bashing Sony or MS doesn't actually answer why Nintendo isn't buying teams yet is diving in scrooge mcduck money lol. I want what you want...for Nintendo to buy some MORE TEAMS! They have the money, no reason for 3DS and Wii U to just have such bad launches and still have dry seasons with a company like Nintendo, hell your post is only further show JUST HOW MUCH THEY HAVE! Strange...yet still won't actually buy the teams to support the systems. Sooooo Nintendo's Scrooge Mcduck money doing anything for you? It sure is doing something for Nintendo thats for sure. @DryBoneKoopa85- DLC, bringing a game to the west, paying for funding is stuff all publishers do. This is regarding what they are not doing....they are not going out in buying the same number of teams or more that Sony or MS are. They are doing a fine job with DLC and with Bayonetta, that really isn't the issue. That is good support, but I'm sorry this company can afford to BUY TEAMS! Again...why is it that Sony and MS bought MORE TEAMS then the company that made the most? Sounds like Nintendo loves keeping there money. Keep supporting them, they sure love it lol.
@Edmix: So your problem is why isn't Nintendo monopolizing the market by buying up more studios? I have no answer for Nintendo but if you were to just ask the general gaming community I think that wouldn't fly well with everyone. Nintendo buying/resurrecting tittles that studios are not looking to do anything with and making those tittles exclusives sits better with the general community. Instead of Nintendo pulling a Microsoft/Sony and just opening up their check books and buying up timed exclusives or timed DLC.
@_-EDMIX-_ The Wii U launch was quite simple. Nintendo was struggling to support two console. At least, Nintendo provided games and hasn't given up; Super Mario 3D World, Bayonetta 2, Super Smash Bros and a whole ton more for both the Wii U and 3DS. If you are going to use development teams argument at least do some research. Nintendo output is far greater than Sony's. Look at the number of games that Nintendo released last year vs the number of games that sony published. Who has the most games? Who had the better games? Nintendo Furthermore, what did Sony do after realizing the Vita flopped? They abandoned it and moved all resources to the PS4, leaving those with a vita next to nothing to play. What and when was the last major 1st published game for the vita? Sony behavior has been pathetic and should be shamed for it.
"The Wii U launch was quite simple. Nintendo was struggling to support two console" Yes, not because they didn't have enough teams or anything, that wouldn't help at all. Soo what your saying is your happy with less teams and less games? AHH I see. Fanboy much? Nintendo must love you, don't question anything they do, happy to have them make less and willing to buy the system, no questions asked. Your the type of fan Nintendo just loves! MS and Sony are doing just fine, MS bought the Minecraft team, Gears IP and made Black Tusk, Sony bought Guerrilla Games, Sucker Punch, Evolution etc. They do fine jobs pleasing their fans and having a new flow of games year around by making smart business choices. I'm sorry but the company that just made the MOST last gen shouldn't be um.."struggling" at a launch of a system like that. Yet Sony has dueled gens before with 2 systems, hell 3 if you count their portables. GT6 released the YEAR PS4 came out, know why? Because Sony OWNS Evolution Studios, they don't need to "Struggle" rushing a damn GT game, they can have another team make a racing game in the mean time and let PD take time to focus longer on a quality game. Right Now Black Tusk is working on Gears so that way 343 doesn't have to worry about the next years fall, I'm sorry but Sony and MS are doing a way, way better job then Nintendo in this regard. There is a reason why Wii U is in last place despite being cheaper and releasing first.... Yet XONE and PS4 are selling circles around it and most 3rd parties want nothing to do with it. http://www.techradar.com/us... they have no respect for 3rd parties http://www.gamasutra.com/vi... The sales are so low for games, no one wants anything to do with it. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... I mean...I'm sorry but I would not want this for Nintendo, if your fan of them I'm sure you wouldn't want them to keep making these mistakes. Buy more team to not "Struggle" and have a respectable launch. Talk with 3rd parties about the design to ask for help BEFORE it releases, not just making anything then expecting support for teams you didn't support in actually making the damn system. To not want this is to be against the entire game development community. Its clear no one wants to deal with a company like this. Only fanboys make excuses for this sloppy business. I'm a fan of them and own a 3DS and still plan to get a Wii U, I'm just not a blind fanboy that can't use easy logic.
So let me get this straight...all of Nintendo's problems can be solved by buying more teams/studios to make more exclusive games? Even though the WiiU has the most exclusives out of the big three, the highest rated games out of any of the new systems and some of the most beloved video game characters in video game history! Do you honestly believe that buying more studios is the answer? What guarantee do you have that these new studios are going to make hits or games that anyone would even want to buy, especially with the state that the WiiU is in. How would more studios even help that> I read that from a lot of people here of "buy more studios" as if that's an answer to everything. How many stories have we read of studios shutting down, closing shop because their games didn't sell well. Buying more studios is not the answer for Nintendo.
I wanted to know what's with all those downvotes, I didn't need to read further then "What exactly is Nintendo's excuse to why the Wii U has such a weak line up of games?". Try again, and please step up your game. :/
You could argue that Sony is out of touch also and the ps4 is a bubble just like this boost in stock price. The tech in the ps4 is over priced also. The games they come out with drop in value due to lack of game play yet people still pay full price for snes games which has no barring on what nintendo charges. It's hard to complain about price when so many are willing to pay it for reasons different than your own. The reality is all consoles are weak sauce. Also nintendo does need to protect their ip. They could just ask these people to not make videos like everyone else yet they just ask for a percentage. You know sometimes you have to pay to get people to come on your show. You just sound bitter and fustrated. So far their games hold their value and they actually make better games. If you want to argue tech then the ps4 needs ddr4 along with gddr5 so it can actually render games at its target resolution. Then it needs to ditch the apu... and go with a risc design or arm or i3. The real apus are coming I hope but the hdd would have to be solid state also. I mean really are you really going to argue tech prowess for a company that got pushed out of the pc industry for being mediocre? Something tells me the wiiu was always mentioned to be shrinked... to a possible handheld candidate. So price and heat along with power are all important for that spec.
"Also nintendo does need to protect their ip. They could just ask these people to not make videos like everyone else yet they just ask for a percentage. " ...yet they are the only ones doing it...
Yet it is the law. Seriously who has ip as strong as nintendo in gaming? I don't see cod toys, shirts... etc. Or any of sony ips. They really need the extra exposure. Try putting up a video of Mickey or something else that doesn't need free publicity and watch it get canned. It's just ip law and any one that can't understand that has never made anything of value. Like I said they don't have to share revenue. Normal procedure is to tell them to take it down. Normal fan art doesn't suffer this faith because no direct revenue is made. When you start getting into millions of views then you approach board cast audience exposure. The truth of the matter is the YouTuber can afford this and are being greedy. Nintendo never asked them for their services. It's like a bum coming to clean your window then he wants to be paid. If these guys are so popular then they could make other shows and create revenue. In fact this is what other adults do instead of whining online about it. If they want to get paid to do ads for Nintendo then they much approach nintendo like other ad agencies and bid for the job.
I think N4G should make a comedy section just for you.
@_-EDMIX-_ Nope. Namco claims Tales of Vesperia on X360
Idk, I'm pretty happy with my Wii U. A PS4 or an Xbox ONE would literally just be sitting there for me. Nothing on it that really makes me think I need to buy another console for $400 yet. I'll wait till the end of their lives here in the next handful of years and get one of either if they have any exclusives that I want to play. Other than that I'll just play my 3rd parties on my PC
Can i be part of this anti Nintendo circle jerk too? Umm here goes.........NintenDoooomed Nice that was about as intellegent and logical as what you guys are saying, can i join the club now? is that all there is to it?
Nintendo stock is doing well after the DeNA announcement- but Nintendo has lost money for the past 4 years-
All hail Nintendo!
So I wonder is it nostalgia or great games that keep poker, chess, baseball, basketball, football etc going? It's called game craftmanship, something sony and ms lack and try to replace graphics with. Is it possible that more old nintendo games are still actually fun to play and many of sony, Sega .. etc games where actually horrible and not really fun? Notice how we have a ton more sales and a ton more disappointed gamers that only believe we buy based on nostalgia? The most important part of a video game is its game play. Without it you only have a wannabe. Your idea of quality is totally lost and you are buying for the wrong reasons. At best you maybe a casual gamer. Check out hardcover gaming 101. Get a few of those roms and come back here. Then tell me we have better games on the ps4, Xbox or even wiiu.
Its working though...just look at that amiibo craze
Selling well... even with all the negativity. Never underestimate Nintendo.
This is what people don't (read: choose not to) realize - Nintendo has been in this business for over 30 years, and in existence for 100 more. There's a reason for that! All the trash about the Wii U not selling well and having no games was null and voided over a year ago. I don't know why it's the 'thing' to bash on the Big N, but despite all the carrying on that goes on on these gaming websites and forums - they're just sitting back counting the paper that's rolling in. Complain all you want; they're just making more money. And too add (and this is not to cause problems, but just think about it) - Exactly how much has Microsoft said they're making off of the XBOX? What about Sony's profits? What people DON'T see is that XBOX and PS make more money for the third-parties than Microsoft or Sony. MS can take it, since they get millions from other sectors, but just keep in mind that Sony has been bleeding BILLIONS over the last few years. The PS4's success is similar to pouring water into a bucket with holes. Just saying...
I already said this before and I will say it again: "Never Underestimate the Big N" EDIT: You do need to get updated on Sony's financial though.
Yup its any wonder why I see countless Nintendo is doomed articles and podcasts. lol Look at people trying to discredit the Wii U. lmfao Nintendo is making money off the Wii U, 3DS, DeNa deal and Amiibo's. Sorry haters looks like your going to have to put those hopes of Nintendo going 3rd party on hold indefinitely. Oh Well.
They appear to be making more of the right moves lately and I hope they can translate it into long term success, just so I have awesome games to play into the foreseeable future:p Secondly, skimming over some of the replies here: What part of this article mentions anything about Sony? lol
The problems Nintendo faces isn't financials, it is them maintaining presence in their hardware. Not many really care about their budget home console WiiU, and 3DS is mostly coasting through its last years. How Nintendo will keep people interested in their hardware and to keep lifetime sales of their consoles and franchises from slipping are the big questions. As important as the profits from DeNA mobile will be, getting these new buyers to flock to their core business is the real task going forward. Their reduced market share isn't impacting their game quality, which is what I care about. But it would be nice to see Nintendo inch towards their past throne as top gaming titan.
Wait until you learn the secrets of NX. That's all I can say. Nintendo is going to cause a sea change in the industry that others will surely follow.
In two or three years. The NX won't be hitting before at least 2017.
Revealed in 2016, released in late 2016.
No, they won't. The Wii U still has two more years at least until its life cycle is up, and all Nintendo has said is that they'll simply talk more about the NX next year. Not reveal or release it.
I'm sorry, that should actually say "Revealed in 2016, released in late 2017." Probably around November 22, 2017. I was too late to make the edit.
"Nintendo is going to cause a sea change in the industry that others will surely follow." I have my doubt's on that. If your claiming that Nintendo will cause some sort of revolution in the hardware industry I doubt the chances of thsg happening. But who knows maybe Nintendo will pull off another Wii instead of a Wii U.
They are doomed guys! DOOMED!!!! christ they could bankroll 5 more failed consoles and still be around for business.
Nintendo has been laughing to the bank for over 100 years...lol
@eagle21, How are all you guys benefiting from nintendo being cheap and saving money,and all the top rated exclusives are nothing more than mario spinoffs that get that pity nostalgia rating from the reviewers. the wii u has the worst line up of games i have ever seen, nothing but cartoony kiddie games with lazy cel shaded graphics.
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