WhatIfGaming reveals what Microsoft thinks about the issue being raised.
FFXIII sells the most in Japan. Everywhere else, JRPGs in general are niche. If MS needed it in one place, it's Japan.
I'm sure they don't know what FFXIII means.
To be honest it reeks of worry. "Big deal. This is not a problem or issue. Microsoft will continue to achieve success everywhere with it’s vast library of titles" Big deal is not good PR talk, it sounds like they don't have a real answer. Brushing it off won't work. I am not worried at all, the E3 announcement has worn off now, and in retrospect, it seems like Microsoft needs to cling to making things multiplatform to survive, by paying up. While the 360 is focusing on games from previous generations, Sony is making the generation defining games for this generation.
mm.... and FF title in Japan shouldn't be taken so lightly, in Japan an FF title can sell millions of copies, and MGS4 showed that the PS3 can be sold by huge numbers.
Japan has a higher per capita sales rate, and a higher absolute amount as well, but the US is not that far behind in FF sales. I'm not making predictions either way, just sayin. I'm sure anyone with both consoles will buy the PS3 (not a port) more often than not, and then those with either will obviously buy either.
...Shows how much Microsoft cares about their fans doesn't it? Microsoft...you are officially jackasses.
Hahahaha nice pic juuken
M$ already bribed Square Enix to become multiplatform for some countries, they should be happy enough. I'm going straight to the point about the FF13 multiplatform case: It ruined the SONY relationship It disappointed many fans SONY depended on them to make a great game, to help improve the sales and reptutation of the PS3 Exclusives that tend to go Multi looses interests Ruined the Playstation exclusive trademark Becoming like Capcom(no need for further explanation) Gave one less reason to own a PS3, which it was the PS2 and PS1 that gave Square Enix where they are now. Showed they cared more about money than loyalty Slowing down the FF13 Verses development May question themselves about the storage space and specs they are using when developing FF13 They are looking to seem to betraying another company(like when they ditched Nintendo) Gave something the Xbox fanboys to cheer and make fun of to the Sony fanboys Making themselves look foolish when they made statements like, "We are arent looking forward for Final Fantasy games on different platforms". " The PS3 suits Final Fantasy 13". Made another foolish statement saying it was to reduce the fanboyism, and yet, Last Remnant is a 360 timed exclusive, Infinite Discovery and Star Ocean are 360 exclusives. And other foolish statement when they said FF13 multi was because of the install base, but then why is FF13 verses a PS3 exclusive? hmmmmm
Wow are they being serious? FF ALWAYS sells the most in Japan ROFL and the PS3 version will be released exclusively in Japan, long before the US and EU versions are released. M$ really cracks me up with their stupid-ass comments.
ahahah, japan, that like that place for rpgs not to metion ff is the best rpg goin hahah big deal what crack you on M$
maybe thats because no one has1 in japan its like seeing someone in america playing with a Sega
But SEGA rules anyway
thats so true thats where the FF fan base is Japan so when they spent their money they should have been focused on Japan
"big Deal" /facepalm...
The 360 doesn't sell well in Japan and MS is aware of it. Even if it was on 360 in Japan the sales would be minimal. It still is a shame to the Japanese 360 owners though because they can't enjoy the game and will be forced to by a PS3 if they don't already have one. The American and European games market are the biggest in the industry so I'm sure the 360 version will sell. Maybe not as much as Japan, but FF is obviously an Eastern franchise. No matter how anyone tries to spin it MS getting FF 13 at all is a huge blow to Sony. For any non-Japanese consumer that was waiting for the game to purchase a PS3 that is just one less reason to.
50% of FF sales are in Japan. JRPGs sell less than 1 million copies on 360 - even though they're exclusives and being sold in Japan Think about it.
FF13 is going to be an amazing game. But thats the thing, its 1 game. 1 game that happened to sell like hotcakes in japan thats not even going to be sold in japan? Microsoft is easily trying to dominate gaming by buying people out. As they always do in any industry that they get into. Wouldn't it be interesting to see a 360 strickly developed RPG title to see how it could trump a Ps3 rpg? Well it tried, and you saw what happened. Lost Odyssey. Mass Effect. All great games, but Final Fantasy? Nope. Its a big loss for the FF community because we all know whats going to happen to the game when its no longer developed just for the PS3. Square used to be known to max out game systems, or at least get close. If the community sticks around for this title, its clearly going to sell more on the PS3 either way y ou cut it. Worldwide is where the Ps3's strength is, and North America its leading in hardware, software will soon follow. The 360 is already maxed, or at least CLOSER to maxed than the ps3 is. This is why its more of a let down for the hardcore FF community. Hopefully they will finish the PS3 version in all of its glory, then try to truncate it down to fit on 5 DVD's. I'd be more worried about FF as a big deal for sony if there wasn't all of the breathtaking titles that G4 is going over right now, as well as a strong 2009 lineup. Microsoft bought FF13 to sell to Americans who own 360's.
Its a blow because Square is supposed to be a Sony ally in a sense. But as far as hardware matters, which is the real issue, Sony still gains 90% of the boost they would have received anyways. FFXIII on the 360 won't sell more than 1 million WW. The bulk of the sales will still be on the PS3(4-5 million). You know Microsoft paid a lot of money and all they did was 1. Screw Sony fans and make them even less likely to buy their console 2. Add yet another RPG which no one on the 360 is going to buy. Its a blow to Sony's morale, but they recovered well today with many announcements including the best looking game I have ever seen (Killzone 2). The FF megaton fizzled out in a day. Its back to Microsoft having nothing after Gears and Sony showing why the PS3 is worth the extra $$$
Jandre02 said: Its a blow to Sony's morale, but they recovered well today with many announcements including the best looking game I have ever seen (Killzone 2). The FF megaton fizzled out in a day. Its back to Microsoft having nothing after Gears and Sony showing why the PS3 is worth the extra $$$ ----- This is exactly what I've been saying on various message boards. Sony did rebound from the FFXIII announcement by proving to us that they're focused on what they have coming now as well as the future, exclusively that is. Microsoft's conference showed absolutely nothing that gave us an idea about where they're going after '08. Everyone was so focused on the FFXIII announcement they didn't realize they have absolutely nothing to exclusively look forward to in '09 at this point. Maybe at some other event they'll start presenting some games for '09, but then Sony'll present more. Sony will always be a step ahead of Microsoft when it comes to the number of (100%) exclusive titles.
FF games sell best in japan! Duh! They sell 70% of all the copies of any FF game. Jesus, Microsoft is really stupid. I swear their CEOS and president of that crapper company were born yesterday.
If Microsoft would stop acting so childish and publicly-realize the fact that Japan IS THE BIGGEST MARKET for Final Fantasy, they wouldn't have said that. They seriously act like they are F'n God and almighty rulers of the gaming world or something.
Arrogance will get them nowhere in the gaming industry. If they were smart enough, they would realize that FFXIII could be their slim chance of gaining some ground on Sony. IDIOTS. They think money will win in the end when they're so stupid that they can't figure this out?!
as far as I am concerned... FFXIII not coming to Japan is not a particularly big deal. Why not? Because i don't live there. From the way this argument is going, you'd think each and every single user was some stock analyst. "It doesnt't come in Japan, so this move is useless". Uh, not to me, man. I still get to enjoy, and therefore I win. Peezowww. I don't to spend my midnights shaking in disbelief or dissapointment because Microsoft didn't make an extra [email protected] profit. Are you serious, this isn't a big deal. And who owns a 360 in Japan. He probably collects consoles for a living, and auctions them off on ebay to kids in third world countries.
and by 'the Xbox 360 will continue to be a success everywhere', he means outside of Japan...and outside of Europe...and only a marginal success in the US over the original Xbox.. either way...too bad MS didn't say that this wasn't coming until 2010 on stage...then we wouldn't need to keep hearing about...
you guys act is you were born yesterday, microsoft sells games better than sony, the hype, the marketing, microsoft will push FFXIII as hard as they can for great sells...that's why GTAIV sold better in xbox 360, that's why halo 3 sold in 24hrs what MGS4 took a month..they know how to sell games.
Sony games sell steady... Sony will still dominate next year...because FF13 will not get to the Xbox 360 till 2010..it will hit japan (PS3 only) in 2009... So microsoft still loses in 2008 and in 2009. One game will not make a system...and FF13 will not save the Xbox 360 from doom. Gears of War 2 will help starve off the demise of the Xbox 360 for at least 6 months....after that it is all down hill. Even nintendo destroyed themselves this week.
Yes, but, NO JRPG on 360 - even the hyped and exclusive ones - has sold 1 million copies. Edit: Disagreeing doesn't change facts.
Wow that is stupid as hell. Anyways, GTAIV sold to a higher percentage of PS3 owners than 360 owners, and gave the PS3 more of a hardware boost. Thats not a win at all. Thats failure. And MS paid $50million for that...lol.
Joe shmoe in America/Europe really doesnt care. Understandable he is getting the game. But we are talking about a company. Having the game release in japan only for ps3 is a big problem a very large percentage of ALL ff sales are attributed to japan. Joe Shmoe may not care but for msoft as a company this is really going to hurt them and create horrible pr for the few 360 japan owners they have. Good luck ever gaining japan after such a horrible pr disaster.
Oh Yeah, MS. Big F'n Deal Right??? Just like if SquareEnix never decided to fold under all the financial pressure you put them under to port over FFXIII in the first place, you would have said "BIG DEAL. We'll buy another exclusive eventually. We are still cool!!! We will still rule the world in a year" The guys at Microsoft seriously make me laugh sometimes. They almost sound like immature jack-offs.
of course its not big deal for them even if SE release it exclusively for 360 in JP it will still bomb.
I have since monday found one new found thing funny about the "HUGE: microsoft announcement, and that is that when ps3 first came out and sales were so low you xbox fans were saying "ps3 will never come back" and "sony is no longer no 1" and "ps3 is guaranteed 3rd place this generation" then for several months in a row ps3 continued and continues to outsell xbox and even wii at times and those statements vanished. But, fast-forward up from e3 2008 and d1cksofts conference sucks other than one game announcement and all of a sudden you seem to "breath a sigh of relief" and now some way you xbox fans feel a somewhat confirmation on the statements highlighted earlier and those statements died up until monday after the failure conference. you know somewhat i get the feeling if not for D1cksofts hidden bribes xbox 360s sales as seen todays would be several times lower, i mean xboxs machine is a copy box if you look at who all they have stole games from: halo-was originally for pc but moved to xbox(probably a big money offer) RARE-originally nintendo but they flashed the cash Sega Shemu and a host of other games-flashed cash to sega playstation-ff as you know it was never supposed to see the light of day, but hey what can 6 billion dollar bribes not do atari-sure theres something on the copy box from that in all this machine has been nothing but a "MASTER SYSTEM" gears is its only game and that only happed cause the paid tons of money for it, other than that Epic probably wouldve made it for ps3 and pc one question though is that i want to know how playstation fans are being called fanboys? ff13 is our game and ps3 is our system, if anything and this is it xbox fans are the fanboys
"Big Deal"... Way to show how much they care about how the public feels about their console in other countries apart from the United States. Typical Microsoft.
Is it just me or has Microsoft's PR been nothing but d1cks throughout this whole ordeal? Brushing off issues to look tough, thus alienating your JP consumer base? Not a smart move. If Sony said that about us over here, we'd probably revolt or commit suicide. Sometimes makes you wonder if any of those MS boys had any real education, or if they're just trying to wing it like Bill Gates did.
At least when Bill Gates was "winging it", he was generally charming and a nice bloke. Microsoft's gaming division is the biggest collection of jackasses on the face of the planet. Grenburg, Kim and Mattrick are idiots.
the xbox division is run by fanboys. They have a list of PS3 exclusives to poach for for crying out loud.
Well considering 2/3 of FF sales are in Japan . . . This whole thing is more of a big deal psychologically. The main FF games were one of the PlayStation's biggest exclusives and now it is being shared. It gives fanboys ammunition in their battles, but most people don't really care about one-upping each other on the internet.
the ps3 version will sell more in japan and in the US/EU 360 version not so well
Big deal? Not to me... I don't even speak Japanese. I'm only interested in japan for one reason and one reason only.... the support of developers in order to bring the games I want to play here in the US.... Japanese people don't want or care about American products with the exception of McDonalds and mac because uhhh.... Linux, OSX and Windows are all American so... freaken duhhh! Japanese people will avoid american products as much as they can... now I prefer the xbox 360 over the PS3... but the PS3 and the wii are both strong and great... why should a japanese person support another product when they have other great products to chose from; made on their backyard? That's like buying Iron from china when the US have the best... Microsoft already learned that no matter how hard they tried Japan will not be won this generation and probably not even the next... hell even Sony knows this which explains why they secured Final Fantasy in japan and not in the US... "Shows how much Microsoft cares about their fans doesn't it? " mmm... funny ehh... I can say the samething... Not securing exclusivity outside of japan shows how much Sony cars about their fans doesn't it? It's obviously clear that Microsoft tried but weren't successful at negotiating the release of FF in japan because Sony did... otherwise they would... but they secured it for the rest of the world... Pray that Sony didn't do the same thing with metal gear and only secured exclusivity in Japan as it seems like they were trying to save a buck... anyways... aren't I getting Final Fantasy XIII on my xbox 360? To me that's all it matters... Japan do not deserve microsoft to spend more than what's necessary for the support of the japanese developers... it was already proven that it's not about the games... Japan is just not interested... regardless of how much microsoft have done to appeal them with more jrpg games than the PS3...
Sony can still move more consoles when this game hits. All they have to do is bundle it with Advent Children Complete (Blu-Ray) and Final Fantasy XIII and there you, a guaranteed success at retail... It is also something that the competition can not match since Blu-Ray is exclusive to Playstation 3.
I am an xbox owner and only planned to get a ps3 because of FFXIII. Since the game is going to the xbox, its going to save me about $400-$500 because now I do not have to buy one to play the game. This is probably similar to a lot of xbox owners that were planning to get the ps3 because of FF. Since they dont have to, they are going to save $$ by getting the game that releases the same time in NA, whether quality is the same or not (disc). The game is going to sell a lot regardless, but its not going to be a system mover i.e GTAIV.
"Microsoft will continue to achieve success everywhere" Everywhere except Japan. Microsoft, pony up another $50 million to make the 360 version Exclusive in Japan. Then, you will finally win japan.
Well, I guess those 600,000 Japanese Xbox 360 owners will just have to buy PS3's if they want to play Final Fantasy XIII! Final Fantasy XIII not coming out on the 360 in Japan only benefits the PS3 even more. As long as Final Fantasy Versus XIII stays PS3 Exclusive, the PS3 wont be affected by Final Fantasy XIII going multi-plat. because anyboday that wants to play FF Versus XIII will have to make a PS3 purchase. People still see the Final Fantasy series as mostly a Playstation franchise and people will be buying PS3's for FFXIII because the particular audience that buys Final Fantasy games are previous Playstation customers and they are more likely to buy a PS3 because they are already familiar with the Playstation brand AND the Playstation controller. Just think if Sony did a Limited Edition Final Fantasy PS3 bundle... PS3's would be flying of the shelves in Japan and around the world. If Metal Gear Solid 4 spurred PS3 sales to 80,000+ units in one week on the initial launch of MGS4, I think that PS3 sales in Japan could hit 200,000+ units in just the first week of the launch of the game.
They will see a boost in the west but it will not be much because the PS3 version will be superior and will come out on less discs compared to the x360 version so naturally the PS3 will see a bigger boost. This is just common sense.
There will be A LOT of piss off Japanese FF fans if SE delay it even more -.-
I can't understand how this could ever be said. "Big deal" Then they wonder why Japan doesn't give a flying sh!t sandwich about the Xbox360. I really wanted to read the comments (Defense)of those on this site that has their the farthest up Microsoft's @ss & you guys know who you are. Even if they had one console sold in the whole fu(king country they have as much of an obligation to that one consumer as they do the millions they have in the United states. "Big deal" OMFG @SSHOLES. Microsoft why the FU(K are you here? Clearly not for the consumers so it must be for another reason.
and it shows in their denial about micro's business moves....personally I could care less about FF games, because quite frankly western rpg's appeal more to me but JUST THE FACT THAT FFXIII WILL BE ON THE 360 IS HUGE. "Rome was not built in a day", but this news is like completing a popular Roman Arena...its a major step and shows micro holds nothing back when it comes to bringing great games to the xbox brand. "This is why i preffer Sony." Lets be honest, you like most sony loyalists on this site "prefer sony", because you praise everything sony does and hate micro simply because they have proven to be a real threat to a company that you feel loyal to....yes its that simple, so just please stop with all the fake excuses sony folks make up; "they copy stuff"= so does sony, "No Big deal"/fake PR= they all do that, sure they care but ALL PR folks downplay the negatives while trying to cling to positive aspects= SPIN. Then you act as if saying its "No big deal" shows they don't care about Japanese gamers, yeah right, micro has brought alot of jrpg's to japan so far, hell micro even released exclusives from the creator of FF himself and although the some of the jrpg's did well given the install base the fact remains that japanese gamers for the most part a very loyal to homegrown products when it comes to gaming, SE may have wanted to keep it exclusive to ps3 in japan for sony's sake and in the end even IF micro was willing to pay even more to "bribe" SE into bringing it to japan, would it be worth it?= Not really, because in the end almost all the sales would be heavily in the ps3 favor, because of install base and of course once again japanese gaming market heavily favors homegrown games/consoles. NOW, that micro pulled off a blockbuster move by bringing the sony's biggest previously exclusive game over to the 360, all sony loyalist want to talk about is Japan, ha ha it all just sounds like WEAK DAMAGE CONTROL, everybody knows 360 will be dead last in japan no matter what happens this gen. The bottom line is this is great news for micro/360 owners and it definitely makes the 360 a even more attractive purchase for those in all the other regions. JOY
Ok first off i asked for one but never really expected anyone to come out and try to defend such a an outright arrogant statement. Yes they have funded JRPG's and that in itself makes this statement even more facked up and confusing. You come at me venting on every Playstation fan that has hurt yoru feelings. While trying to mask your true feelings under the rest of bullshit you posted. I can't see how you could interpret this as anything but them not caring much about Japanese gamers. "Then you act as if saying its "No big deal" shows they don't care about Japanese gamers," OK lets look at this from another angle. If the smallest of 3 children for your parents and on Xmas your parents give trips to Disney to your other 2 bigger siblings. When you ask why your not getting a trip they reply "Big deal" How you view that?... Stop being a zombie it's that type of mentality why Microsoft just suddenly stopped all 1st party support for the Xbox leaving it's user base for the Xbox360. Well i guess if some of it's users are so mindless that they are gonna follow them and drink their greener pastures gospel, why not!? "NOW, that micro pulled off a blockbuster move by bringing the sony's biggest previously exclusive game over to the 360, all sony loyalist want to talk about is Japan, ha ha it all just sounds like WEAK DAMAGE CONTROL." Clearly this means alot more to you than it does me because am still gonna buy and play Final Fantasy XIII. That's the problem with Xbox360 loyalists most of you hate Final Fantasy or atleast have expressed dislike for the series. However now you all love it, this level of brand loyalty is frightening.
this has arrogance written all over it. Multi platform is great for them, but when it gets released in Japan exclusively on PS3, and also way before it will ever see a release elsewhere, not having a Japanese release is not exactly great.
Even if FFXIII hit 360 in Japan it would not matter, Japanese simply do not give a sh1t about Microsoft or Xbox. For the Japanese personal devices are akin to the DS or Japanese home electronics, for everything else there is something called workplace where they can use Windows all the time. With the money Sony would have saved by letting Square make it completely multiplatform, we could have had another first party game.
who cares? Its all hype. Eventually, only 1 console can stand next to nintendo. xbox360 is very tiny. Anyone can kill xbox360 with some advertising but why don't they? ooops, they forgot m$ is there to steal, cheat & gimp it up. that's what generic companies do. They imitate & sell hoping youre in a hurry or your favorite brand isn't around. 3rd rate fad! its over! Everybody woke up when will you?
lol?!? Are MicRipofft saying "Big deal" as in 'yes it actually is a big deal' or are they saying it in as in 'yeah, yeah, whatever...BIG DEAL'. They have honestly got to be the stupidest company i know if its the latter. Let alone the most disloyal to their fans, but we already knew that with xbox 1
i was planing to give my friend a xbox360 on his birthday. Cause he is mad soon to be 17 years old xbox fanboy and i rather spend 100less buck. but now i changed my mind im getting him a ps3 haha. his old box died and warranty expired :) which reminds me that this is 3rd year box is out, peoples warranties for rrod are expiring and they probably will get ps3 this time around, unless they are totally crazy.
Why would they care? At last count there is only like.... 2 360's in japan. Not like they are losing a lot of sales...
Will be buying FFXIII on the PS3. Why? Simple. I can't imagine playing a FF on any other console and if I were to play it on any other console it would be the Ninty. Now with Trophies and such, Sony's version comes down to taste in console.
I cant imagine anyone buying this for the 360 who has both consoles. It helps when your console lasts longer than the game.... ;)
You hit the nail on the head there. Bubbles.
Lets look at it another way shall we? Compare games. LBP - Banjo? Motorstorm 2 - baja? lmao Resistance 2 - Gears 2 Killzone 2 - ? doh Bioshock(yes it's already on 360, but ps3 gets more content, it's cheaper and guess what, the devs are already planning the second for both consoles) Most other games are multiplat already. see where i'm going. Maybe alan wake has the answers, if only he'd wake up.
Well that sucks, and it seems like Microsoft doesn't care >:O
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