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Grand Theft Auto V Face-Off: PC vs. PS4

Hardcore Gamer: We have taken it upon ourselves to determine how the PC version holds up in comparison to its console counterpart.

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ValKilmer857d ago

Honestly, not as big of difference as I expected.

ArturAraujo857d ago

To be honest, I've only seen a difference in their size...

vishmarx857d ago

not that significant a difference, the only reason i held onto my copy was for heists . thats done and now im done with the game.
maybe ill pick up the pc version 5yrs down the line when it has plenty of mods(hopefully)

Hydrolex857d ago (Edited 857d ago )

Honestly guys, yes, 1080p PC vs PS4 is not a massive difference. BUT, 1440p and 4k reslution just DESTROY 1080p PC and PS4 version.... And you need strong hardware for that

I play on 1440p, the difference btw 1080p and 1440 is a lotttt, so obviously 4k is even better !

Meltic857d ago (Edited 857d ago )

Are you blind mr ? What about the pc version have more grass, better draw distance, more traffic, more people, more diffrent people, better Lightning, better shadows and 60 fps. Cant get any better than PC...

SonyWarrior856d ago

rockstar is currently making story dlc for gta5 on consols so it would be smart to hold on to the game unless you want to wait 1 year to play it on PC

pixelsword856d ago (Edited 856d ago )

No doubt that 4k is awesome Hydrolex...

...too bad that less than 1% of the gaming population can view it, and about the same percentage of games utilize 4k graphics.

BattleAxe856d ago (Edited 856d ago )

"Honestly, not as big of difference as I expected."

Well why would there be? They didn't crank up the Anti-Aliasing, and they didn't take advantage of higher resolutions that the PC offers. Not to mention that there is a Digital Foundry video out there, which shows GTA5 running on a GTX 980, with fps peaking at over 100 frames per second. The PS4 version only runs at 30 fps.

Bdub2000856d ago

Looks to be about the same difference between X1 and PS4.

pixelsword856d ago (Edited 856d ago )

@ Battle Ax:

of course, but that card won't be the standard card in a gaming computer, that's why they didn't do that; if you want to use the best of what a computer can do, that's fine; but it's absurd to use a high-end PC card and top of the line specs as the de-facto representation of what the average standard gaming PC can do and that's why it's not done in sensible PC-Console comparisons.

I'm not saying you are like this, but I think it's a little funny (and slightly sad) that there are still some PC gamers out there that act like every computer that plays games instantaneously has the highest-end specs available; if some guys think they're fooling people with screenshots of a game that's cranked-up on a weak graphics card but chugs at a sub-30fps when they do that, they're really not.

There is a difference between PC gaming and high-end PC gaming just like there's a difference between Console gaming and high-end PC gaming.

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Genuine-User857d ago (Edited 857d ago )

That's because GTAV on the PS4 is comparable to high-very high graphical settings on the PC at 1080p.
Confirmed by Digital Foundry and NXGamer.

If anyone is in doubt, watch this - https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Genuine-User857d ago (Edited 857d ago )

The number of disagrees without a single argument can only mean one thing; irrational hostility.

KrystofKage1857d ago

30fps, 1080p vs 60fps(and higher), 4k...huge difference. Not including several other options.

Although most people can't reach those requirements. Hell, with the current stability problems, a lot of people have trouble running it at all.

blackmagic857d ago

When I went to Digital Foundry, I read that high settings across the board, population and scaling sliders set at 50%, FXAA (worst AA option) and shadows set at 'softer' (lowest setting) gave the closest match to the settings on ps4. That's probably why you are getting disagrees.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

p.s. even their lowest i3 4130/750ti build yielded better than 30fps at those settings.

moldybread857d ago

"That's because GTAV on the PS4 is comparable to high-very high graphical settings on the PC at 1080p."

and you call yourself genuine user? that comment is not very genuine. the ps4 is not comparable to high end gpu's.

now please show us the link from digital foundry that suggest it is.

Genuine-User856d ago (Edited 856d ago )

@ blackmagic & KysotofKage1

Although I agree that it's possible to go beyond 1080p and 30fps on a good gaming PC, I specifically mentioned what Rockstar had achieved at 1080p on the PS4.

The evidence is in the video - https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Texture Quality - Very High
Grass Quality - Very High
Population Density - 50-70%
Draw Distance - 50-70%
Shadows - Mixture of High to Very High with a softer touch around the edges
Post Effects - High
Mirror Reflections - Ultra
Street and Car Reflections - Mixture of High to Very High
Water Reflection - Very High
Tessellation - High
Parallax Oculusion Mapping - High

I couldn't make any of this up even if I tried.

@moldybread

Your accusation is based on false representation. I never argued that a PS4 is equivalent to a high-end GPU.

moldybread856d ago (Edited 856d ago )

"That's because GTAV on the PS4 is comparable to high-very high graphical settings on the PC at 1080p.
Confirmed by Digital Foundry"

twice now you have refused to show anything from digital foundry and to say comparable 30 frames to that of 60 frames is not.

moldybread856d ago

a mid-range gpu can perform just as well if not better if you only want 30 frames like the ps4 and xbox one. you also have many graphical tweaks available at your disposal on the pc.

what do people really expect from a $400 console? gta v looks good on the ps4, there is no denying that but lets not be disingenuous here thinking 30 frames to that of 60 frames is comparable and then conclude that because the ps4 uses some high and very high settings it's now equal ground to high end computers. you are not giving the full details and are only picking and choosing. you can crank the settings up too on mid-range computers, not high end, but it might not hit 60 frames but it will at 30.

Genuine-User856d ago (Edited 856d ago )

@ moldybread

What is wrong with you. This is the second time you have accused me for an argument I have not made.

I have not spoken about:
-frame-rate
-GPU's
-High-end gaming PC

My argument is specifically based on what Rockstar has achieved on the PS4 at the resolution of 1080p.

ashcroft856d ago

Until mods come out...then it'll be a night and day differrence...

Look at GTA IV with Icenhancer.

GTA V is also a last gen game cleaned up. Of course it's comparable to a high end PC.

GTA VI on the other hand will show you a massive difference. Same as witcher 3.

JasonKCK856d ago

The disagrees are simply because it's not true.

pixelsword856d ago

Genuine just posted a nigh-half-hour video that details exactly what he said, and you guys are saying how it's not true?

Where's your counter-video?

blackmagic856d ago

Counter? To WHAT? genuine-user CLAIMED the ps4 runs high-very high graphical settings on the PC at 1080p and he CLAIMED it was COMFIRMED by Digital Foundry.

I pointed out that his claim WASN'T confirmed by Digital Foundry at all, in fact, Digital Foundry had something completely different to say on the matter, which I linked to:

"we target high settings across the board. This keeps DirectX 11 features like tessellation and high quality grass in play, while the population and scaling sliders are set to 50 per cent to minimize pop-in. All told, this falls closely in line with the PS4 and Xbox One set-ups, with FXAA engaged, and the 'softer' shadow option selected as a best match"

So now, after genuine-user has been caught in a blatant lie, he defaults to "nx gamer", a nameless youtube personality with less than 5,000 followers that just does a voice over on a random video playing in the background and pits it as "fact" to counter HIS OWN REFERENCE, Digital Foundry, who has done hundreds of these comparisons over the last decade and have established themselves as a high quality source of information.

Really?

No seriously, REALLY?!

Genuine-User856d ago (Edited 856d ago )

@ blackmagic

You cannot possibly be this obtuse. Digital Foundry is not an ‘objective authority’ on technical analysis, no one is. They have been wrong many a time.

Just so we are clear, I specifically mentioned Digital Foundry and NXGamer.

You should be careful in quoting DF because there’s always a mistake around the corner. Digital Foundry and almost every other technical analysis outlet confirmed the quality of grass to be of a higher level on PS4 in comparison to the X1. Therefore, for them to go and say we target high settings across the board to fall closely in line with the PS4 and Xbox One is a contradiction.

I have not been caught in some blatant lie lol, I have provided you with VIDEO evidence, what else do you want. You cannot disregard a person’s knowledge based on the amount of followers they have. I think it would intellectually dishonest of you to do so.
Since you believe that DF is an established high quality source of information (dare I say a White Knight), would you kindly answer some of these inconsistencies and bias attitude in some of their technical analysis?

Why do they assume that every current-gen console game uses FXAA by default?

Did you know they got Project Cars AA method wrong?
Did you know they were technically unable to analyse The Order 1886 MSAA?
Did you know DF claimed that the poor frame-rates for AC Unity (PS4) were due to the CPU, yet the last patch fixed most of the frame-drops.
Did you know they never mentioned god rays for the PS4 version of Far Cry 4 in their technical analysis?
Did you know they constantly whitewash the difference between native and sub native resolution in favour of the X1.

Those are just a few examples.

They have been caught with authoritative statements without proof. This is not how the world works, this not how objectivity works, I can't always take their word, just because they have a following, I need them to prove what they’re saying.

This is where NX Gamer edges DF. He does not sit on his high horse and make blanket statements where he expects his subjects to just gobble, he shows/pinpoints and qualify every statement he makes in the form of "hey, check these shadows in the corner"... Corroborative evidence in any objective or would-be objective statement is key.

A word of advice, don’t just follow something or someone without research.

moldybread856d ago

so now you want to distance yourself from df after opening your statements with this,

"Confirmed by Digital Foundry"

everyone here is confused as to what you're trying to prove. we all know the ps4 is a great piece of hardware for $400 and rockstar have done a great job porting over gta v. the game is limited to 1080p and 30 frames per second and comparing visuals is fine and dandy but a lower tiered pc can do that too. the pc is also able to provide more options in tweaking the settings as well. what options do the consoles do other than trying to keep the game running at a steady 30 frames?

at the end of the day the ps4 holds up very well visually to the pc but as far as performance goes the ps4 can dip to 24 frames. the xbox one also holds up quite well with the ps4 beating it out with higher grass foliage and lens flare effects.

blackmagic855d ago

As moldybread pointed out, you led this all with, and I am quoting the exact words, "confirmed by Digital Foundry" to try and bolster your CLAIM which is a lie that you are desperately trying to back track on.

Heck, even in your back track you are over reaching if you watch your own video (which I did btw) . At around 17:15 nx gamer lists what >he< believes to be the closest settings to console which ironically enough doesn't match what you wrote.

Finally, yes Digital Foundry isn't perfect but they ARE the best and most consistent of the pack so if you are going to refute their findings then you need to prove it. The nx gamer video doesn't show anything, it is literally just a video of GTA with his voice over. There are no comparisons, side by side, etc. Nothing. Just his words which simply isn't anything near enough for me to even have a shimmer of a doubt that Digital Foundry is accurate in their assessment.

Ask yourself this, if Digital Foundry found that the ps4 was high-very high graphics settings but nx gamer said it was only high would you be arguing about who was right? I HIGHLY doubt it.

Genuine-User855d ago (Edited 855d ago )

@ moldybread

I stand by my initial statement. I was merely suggesting that we shouldn’t rely on a single source. What is it that you find confusing? I have been called a liar and dishonest, I’m trying to prove otherwise.

I wouldn’t call an Intel Core i3 and GTX 750TI low-end.

After patch 1.10, the PS4 version of GTAV is pretty much locked at 30. Uncapped frame-rate could be somewhere between 35-45fps.

@ blackmagic

Would you kindly quote the whole sentence? Why do you shamelessly disregard my initial statement where I unequivocally mentioned both DF and NXGamer, I stand by my initial statement, there’s no backtracking.

What I find ironic is that you have just proved me right. Take a look - https://www.youtube.com/wat...

The PC graphical settings that replicate the console settings are set to:

Texture Quality - Very High
Grass Quality - Very High
Population Density - 50-70%
Draw Distance - 50-70%
Population Variety – 100%
Shadows - Mixture of High to Very High with a softer touch around the edges
Post FX – Very High
Anisotropic Filtering – X8
Ambient Occlusion - High
Mirror Reflections - Ultra
Street and Car Reflections - Mixture of High to Very High
Water Reflection - Very High
Tessellation - High
Parallax Oculusion Mapping - High

A question for you, how do think DF performs a detailed examination of the graphical settings of any game? They’re not as consistent as you are lead to believe.

I will back up what I have mentioned:

-Project Cars – “and its post-process anti-aliasing method (which falls close to the PC's higher FXAA settings” http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
This is incorrect, the Xbox One version uses MSAA, or more precisely AMD's EQAA (Enhanced Quality Anti Aliasing) with 8 fragments and 4 samples, which is equivalent to MSAA 4x on PC.

DF also apologized because they publish a technical analysis of a build not intended for technical analysis.

That’s just one example, I can go on.

You cannot possibly be serious. NXGamer’s technical analysis is the most in-depth analysis I have seen of its kind. Care to point me towards a DF article that compares current-gen GTAV to that of PC in such detail? If you think a 20+ minute video is not enough than I wonder how you can possibly side with DF when all they have literally said is this “we target high settings across the board. This keeps DirectX 11 features like tessellation and high quality grass in play, while the population and scaling sliders are set to 50 per cent to minimize pop-in. All told, this falls closely in line with the PS4 and Xbox One set-ups, with FXAA engaged, and the 'softer' shadow option selected as a best match”.

DF doesn't provide any video or image comparison to back up their claim - http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Unbelievable

moldybread855d ago

@Genuine-User

"I stand by my initial statement."

how is that possible when you don't provide your source for digital foundry?

"I was merely suggesting that we shouldn’t rely on a single source."

yet you are relying on a single source.

"What is it that you find confusing?"

hmm, maybe this opening statement that you want to stand by "Confirmed by Digital Foundry" and then say don't trust them.

whatever, doesn't matter. enjoy gta v on your ps4

blackmagic855d ago

First you stated "GTAV on the PS4 is comparable to high-very high graphical settings on the PC at 1080p. ". That's not worded as an opinion, that is worded as a statement. Then you declare "Confirmed by Digital Foundry and NXGamer." That is a congruent statement. That means that both Digital Foundry AND nx gamer have converged on the same conclusion which they absolutely do not. If you had actually looked, you would have seen that Digital Foundry actually stated what I have previously posted which is contrary to your statement. It seems to me that you dropped Digital Foundry's name in there in an attempt to make your 'statement' more powerful. Furthermore, you continue to flagrantly state in the very next comment that anyone that disagrees with you is displaying "irrational hostility". Classy.

Here is a pic showing the differences between normal, high and very high textures on pc
http://media.gamersnexus.ne...

Now here are a number of pics where you can clearly identify very high textures on PC and high textures on PS4.
http://i.imgur.com/EAIU6Br....

http://cdn4.gamepur.com/ima...
http://cdn3.gamepur.com/ima...

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I believe Digital Foundry is correct in its assessment, nx gamer needs to put some glasses on and you need to be able to prove your statements with reputable sources.

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PeaSFor857d ago (Edited 857d ago )

do it against a strict 399$ budget rig that MUST INCLUDE a case, cpu, graphic card, ram, psu, mobo, hdd, mouse/keyboard and OS.

Str8Chaos74857d ago

Such a tired argument, PC does a lot more than play games.