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How Forza 6 can simulate cars that don't even exist yet

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"So here’s a long, hard, borderline-pervy look at the rear end of Forza Motorsport 6’s cover star, the All-New Ford GT. That’s the ‘all-new’ Ford GT, you must understand – not some old rustbucket Ford GT from 2006 that only has a mere (smirk) 550 horsepower or (guffaws into sleeve) a sluggish 0-60mph time of 3.3 seconds."

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TheCommentator3311d ago

"F150 Raptor... being built for off road..."

Rally confirmed for Forza 6? I could go for a good rally game, hasn't been a good one since Rallisport Challenge/Colin McCrae.

Spotie3311d ago (Edited 3311d ago )

I'm pretty certain this car DOES exist. It might not be in production yet, but it already exists.

Additionally, this isn't anything any other sim can't do. Or racing game period, honestly. Since the games are just data, programming theoretical performance info for a car, along with its dimensions, weight, etc. is all it takes. (I say all, but it's still a decent amount of work.)

Not trying to put the game down or anything. Just saying.

Edit: http://www.caranddriver.com...

It's a 2017 model. If you know anything about how cars are released here in the US, you know that means it'll be releasing in 2016. There's no way a vehicle dubbed a hypercar would not already have more than just a concept. In fact, http://www.caranddriver.com...

Furthermore, http://blog.caranddriver.co... indicates they'll be fielding a car in Le Mans next year. That's a June race, meaning they'd have less than a year to concept, test, and produce a hypercar worthy of competing by then(because the car will obviously have to be ready ahead of race day, and it would be stupid to wait until the last second). Due to homologation rules, that's another point in the favor of the car being very close to production as, again, it would likely be released BEFORE 2017.

As for it not having been built... yeah, sure. They may make a few tweaks to the design between now and launch, but the design shown is pretty close to final.

And again, this is nothing any other game couldn't do, so this is still pointless. I deliberately avoided mentioning it, but what the hell do you think the Vision Gran Turismo cars are? How many concept cars do you think have graced GT rosters so far? Did the Corvette of what, 2013 already slip your mind?

Finally, I'm here because, though I might not be much of a fan of Forza, I AM a fan of cars of all types. I'm also curious about the new GT, which I knew was the cover car for Forza 6. I suspected that was the car they referred to, yet hoped it might be something else, since that car quite obviously exists and is too close to production to say otherwise. It also sounded like an odd claim- and it is, frankly, since it's just data, as I've said, and any game can simulate data for a non-real car if it's programmed to do so- so I wanted to see exactly what was meant.

Given that crappy excuse for a rebuttal, you don't even seem to care, yourself. So why are YOU here?

gangsta_red3311d ago (Edited 3311d ago )

It exists on paper and in concept. It has not been built yet so technically it doesn't exist.

Why do you even care one way or another?

gangsta_red3310d ago

So again I have to ask you...

Why do you even care one way or another? This article isn't here to explain how or why Forza is the only game that could ever do this. Every article that explains something from MS or Nintendo in your narrow point of view is an offense to Sony and you try your best to explain your bias. I'm sure you couldn't wait to bring up GT in your edit.

And then to end your comment with a:

"Not trying to put the game down or anything. Just saying."

Just shows how you are actually trying to put the game down.

The car has not been built at all,so it does not exist. having a car on display and actually having it work are two different things.

And crappy rebuttals? That's all you do...you don't even realize that the whole, "Why do you even care one way or another?" statement is ripped write from a past post of yours to me. That is the most hilarious part of your argument. 'Nuff said...unless of course you still have your comment in edit mode waiting for someone to reply.

Moldiver3310d ago (Edited 3310d ago )

"It's a 2017 model. If you know anything about how cars are released here in the US, you know that means it'll be releasing in 2016. There's no way a vehicle dubbed a hypercar would not already have more than just a concept."

Hi...Well informed and clued up motor enthusiast here..So I thought id interject some facts. First off the car is STILL in development. It exists as test mules that dont have finalised suspension settings, tyre specs or even a fully developed engine.

"Additionally, this isn't anything any other sim can't do. Or racing game period, honestly."

I agree any sim could do this. But not ANY racing game. arcade racers like DC and NFS have ZERO car physics modelling.No weight/G-force simulation.No suspension geometry or tyre simulation. nothing. Just a floating box that responds to button inputs.If a racing game does not simulate these things, that game cant possibly hope to do what forza/GT/Pcars/asseto corsa/raceroom is doing with car physics.

On a side note, spotie..Im not sure what the point of your post was. no offense, but you sounded like a debbie downer in your post..also, Gangsta red is an xbox guy, so of course he is gonna comment on an xbox game in an xbox article. So asking him why he is here is a bit silly. Especially given YOUR PS slanted views..I have seen your previous posts. Ill just leave it at that...

on a side note..its always nice to see a fellow car enthusiast on here. What do you drive? Im a BMW and porche fan. I will be driving BMWs for the forseeable future, as I cant afford a porche..yet! lol. I love my 125 M-sport though! Its a baby M3, for sure!

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Top 10 Rarest Cars in Forza History

KeenGamer: "See the top 10 rarest cars to ever appear in Forza history! Thousands of cars have been featured in Forza since launch and only a handful of them have been really difficult to obtain or, in current state, impossible to drive around with. Although they were once obtainable, it's only for a limited time and, most times, for a certain price."

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I thought this was going to be about the rarest and most valuable cars in the game, based on real life manufacture numbers and value.

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Forza Motorsport 6 is Being Delisted on 15th September

Forza Motorsport 6 will enter "End of Life" status on 15th September, so make sure you own it and its DLC before then if you want to play it.

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mandingo1713d ago

What's the benefit of delisting games? Curious.

Italiano12345671713d ago

Theres no benefit. They just dont renew the licenses for the songs and cars so after the 15th u cant buy it

mandingo1713d ago (Edited 1713d ago )

Oh licenses. That makes sense. So if you have it digitally already you can still play it you just cant buy it?

Cobra9511712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Yeah, the expiring-licenses thing is a blight on the scene. There literally ought to be a law. Once something is licensed for a product, it should never become an impediment later on. Simple consumer protection. In racing games, both the cars and the music would be locked in place. The developer can't add newer car models, or different songs. I don't see why that would hurt the profits of car companies or artists. Newer games would have to license the newer cars and songs, or even the same ones.

Edit: mandingo, that's right.

rainslacker1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Saving on licensing costs.

@cobra

They could pay more for perpetual licenses, but after 4 years, chances are they arent going to be making much of a return on the game anymore.

lodossrage1713d ago

again, a music license issue. This is the same reason Driveclub is getting delisted next year.

I'm sorry, but if music rights can be the cause of a product being delisted, they need to either have unlicensed music because this is ridiculous. This is actually another reason to be concerned about an all-digital future.

bolimekurac1713d ago

or hopefully when ugly things stick their head out like this music license issue, that the companies do the right thing and find a solution so this doesnt happen, then we can complain if they dont. Digital games is fairly new so why dont we first see if the companies fix these issues that pop up. not that we shouldnt be heard and to let them know about these issues but at least lets not attack them for no reason

lodossrage1713d ago

@bolimekurac,

They've already had years to deal with this. This isn't the first instance of license music altering a game in some form. Crazy Taxi wasn't even allowed to be released with the original soundtrack and many of the real world stores in the game were cut for licenses.

I know it's not exactly' the same, but the issues is close enough that the industry as a whole should have realized this would be a problem even back in the ps3/ 360 era win crazy taxi was re-released for modern day.

traumadisaster1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Oh crap idk about drive club, I’m so glad you mentioned it, and I just happen to be in this article. I’ve been wanting that game but was waiting until ps5 to get it. Now i need to check into this cause hell I’ll buy it now if I need to.

It looks like there is a hard copy version, so I can pick that up cheap, the online stuff which I don’t usually do is what goes away in 2020, and it can’t be bought on psn

KickSpinFilter1712d ago

Oh you should def get Driveclub such a great game now after server/updates. One of my all time fav racers. Nice mix of Arcade/Sim. Not Sim, Arcade or Sim/Arcade.

rainslacker1712d ago

I'd highly recommend bikes if you get driveclub. Lots of fun. The vr version is also good if you have psvr.

About the only thing you're going to lose with the delisting is the online functions as well. Driveclub is playable in SP with lots of content though. It's just being part of a club and user challenges or throw downs won't be available after they shut down the servers.

DaDrunkenJester1712d ago

Or it's not that big of a deal since it's a long running franchise and there is already the newer versions you can still buy. If you already own FM6 you can still play it.

spicelicka1712d ago

This is a definitely a huge concern for an all-digital future. Along the fact that they can control whatever price they want you to pay even 5 years later, like Destiny and Call of Duty. You can't even buy the original games anymore, they just re-bundle them and force you to pay full price again.

WiiU-Dude1712d ago

It happens in other entertainment too. I have seen DVD series held up for years because of music licensing issues. It is annoying. I agree with the person that it should be a one time deal. With the creation of a product, things like music licensing should be done with that product going forward. Such a headache apparently.

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Sgt_Slaughter1713d ago

Good thing physical copies will always exist for purchase in a thriving used game market.

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CobraKai1712d ago

There’s at least 3 people who like games being delisted; never to be played again.

Software_Lover1712d ago

But you still have to download the data unfortunately...…..

traumadisaster1712d ago

I just bought this a few months ago on a very cheap sale, then I think recently it was added to game pass.

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