GearNuke: "PlayStation Store data reveals which is the more popular game among the crowd."
It should be popular! It's incredible! I haven't played The Order yet, but I'm quite looking forward to checking it out as well. You know, some time after I go through Bloodborne for the third time. I'm joking, (maybe not) I'm just addicted to the game.
I agree. This game is amazing. I'm at work thinking about playing it as soon as I get home. It's a game I don't want to end. I just want to explore its world until I find everything possible and then end it. Once that happens I'll just do it all again.
Man, I'm about to go in for a job interview in the next few days... All I can think about is needing to finish Bloodborne before then. That way, if I get the job, at least the urge to play won't be as terrible. It's literally all I've been doing for the past three days. From waking up, to falling asleep. I should note, no game has done this for me since the PS2 era. So needless to say, I'm ecstatic. I'm going to be sad when I finally beat it. Though as you said, I'm sure I'm going to go back and do it all again. Unfortunately a good bit of its charm is not knowing what to expect. So going through more than once won't be as wonderful.
Sadly I'm someone that bought into the Bloodborne hype and bought it digitally. Regret my purchase to a great deal. Cannot stand the gameplay in this game.
I am currently playing with the Saw Cleaver and I want to try and play through the game using each of the weapons. Plenty of replay value, tons of hidden stuff, and satisfying gameplay. This game is a blast!
Wait until you get the Kirk Hammer. It's glorious.
And then wait until he gets Ludwig's Holy Blade...amazing!
Blades of Mercy FTW, its just too good.
one game praised by critics and fans, the other mainly by fans of the system. so yes, reviews can help sales or hurt sales. what should hopefully end is this conspiracy that reviewers have some sort of bias against sony and their games.
No, but there is a difference between giving a game a solid 7 or so and just slapping on a score below a 5 because of something that bothered you. That's not even logical. I swear some AAA games get passes because of production values while some get judged more harshly for them.
Nah, reviews/reviewers still don't matter. Personally I had my mind made up and pre-order placed before the reviews came out. One of my favorite games this gen is Destiny and I'm enjoying the Order. Actually this is the first time in a long time that I actually agreed with reviews and I must admit that it scared me a little Lol.
One game attacked from the moment it was revealed, the other not. I'd say previews help or hurt sales far more than reviews.
"One game attacked from the moment it was revealed" if they didn't like it from the start and the developers didn't do anything to change their opinion then that is consistency. the same thing occurred from posts on the forums, many said it looked awesome without even playing it and once it was released they kept saying it was awesome. to me the most interesting reviews are opinions you don't expect. such as those on the forums who say a game doesn't look that great in the beginning and ended up enjoying it. or on the flip side those who said it looked very good and were eager for its release only to not find it very good. what i find alarming on forums are the folks you already know what their opinion is even before they give it. most people call them trolls or fanboys. with legitimate review sites i would tend to think most of them don't have some vested interest in the hardware which can and does corrupt ones opinion about the exclusive games for it.
Same here, man! I'm addicted to this game. 58hrs and counting!! Search for Chalice Glyph 9zbnm6pa
I have never in my life seen such a concerted effort by the media to find every single angle possible to discredit a game to the level of what is being done to The Order. It is literally mind numbing. This has to be one for the history books. What the hell is the purpose of this article? Two different games, two different fanbases, on the same system. How is this relevant for either of them? Articles saying bloodborne saved the ps4 after the disaster of The Order, articles calling bloodborne a needed success after the failure of The order. This is getting beyond ridiculous. Other games on other systems have sold less with luke warm reception from the public and have not been dragged through the mud, severely attacked and discredited and called a failure as much as The order has. But hey, "journalism".
I've seen people completely trash the game, that have also admitted to neither owning the game or the PS4. The order is a fantastic game, whatever the case may be people who actually took the chance on the game enjoyed it quite a bit.
"I have never in my life seen such a concerted effort by the media to find every single angle possible to discredit a game to the level of what is being done to The Order. It is literally mind numbing. This has to be one for the history books. " Nonsense. The game is rubbish and it deserves to be put on the stake. Ryse was ripped apart from the moment it was revealed and also critically lambasted more so than the Order (and rightly so). You didn't see me or others launching such a bitter defence in its favour. It was a very similar kettle of fish; visually striking but defunct in almost every other way (although it had a lot more gameplay, replayability and a longer playthrough). This is just selective amnesia and full on dramatics on the part of fans. Bloodborne and its blanket praise put any notions of conspiracies to bed. People want good games. Bloodborne and its tremendously high scores and great reception prove that when a game deserves praise, it will benefit from it. The Order is criticised mostly because it was universally panned. People need to deal with it.
Completely agree with you. I played the game and it was a turd, sure it was a beautiful turd but a turd nonetheless. No amount of graphical polish or cinematics can hide rubbish gameplay
I game for 30 years and I loved the game. I hate all this flood of open world games and from time to time I just prefer a linear cinematic game with incredible atmosphere to a huge and beautiful but empty and soulless mess like Dragon Age Inquisition or teh 100th AC game. The majority of gamers who actually bought and/or played the game ended up liking it..so stop thinking your opinion is universal. Why is it so hard for people to understand that tastes are different?! BTW Ryse is on so many levels worse than The Order I don't even know where to start.
Ryse was never ripped apart so badly and you know it. There was no year-long campaign to turn every aspect of the game into a negative. And I'm still waiting on someone like you- an avowed, unabashed hater of The Order- to cite the technical problems that would be like Ryse's steep framerate drops. Selective amnesia is right, as there were plenty of Xbox fans who treated it as the best game out, despite any and all problems you could have brought up. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that. While those defending The Order have at least admitted the game isn't perfect, those defending Ryse act as if the game was perfect. And there's no way in Hell Ryse was attacked more than The Order. It was actually partially excused because it was a launch title, while The Order was further criticized for being delayed until after the holidays. I also don't recall Ryse being lambasted for being the game it was meant to be. For it to have been "universally" panned, there sure are a lot of GOOD reviews out there. I understand that you can't acknowledge those, though, since they go against your own personal impression of the game, which was incredibly myopic. That you went on a campaign to make sure no one enjoyed the game says all that needs to be said about how much your opinion on the game should count.
What has Ryse to do with this? again your trying to have your biased opinion stated as facts. You are entitled not to like a game and find it 'rubbish' for you but it is OBVIOUSLY NOT RUBBISH FOR EVERYONE and thats a fact Cant begin to understand how on Earth you got so many bubbles
@Spotie "Ryse was never ripped apart so badly and you know it. There was no year-long campaign to turn every aspect of the game into a negative. " Clearly your memory of the gaming industry doesn't extend that long because Ryse was lambasted from the MOMENT it was revealed. At E3, everyone ripped into it and its over-abundance of QTE's. That's where the real hate started. Not day one, but 10 minutes into its reveal. And you know what, rightly so. The Order attracted hate as soon as the previews came along. That's when people started clocking on to its negativity. " That you went on a campaign to make sure no one enjoyed the game says all that needs" Well if you're content with churning out complete B.S, explain this (well you can't because you're on one bubble for good reason but I extend the courtesy you don't deserve): http://www.gameondaily.com/... And there, I actually defended the Order and I did so in many of my comments. In fact, I was actually wrong to deride those early previews critiquing the game because their sentiments were spot on. "While those defending The Order have at least admitted the game isn't perfect, those defending Ryse act as if the game was perfect. " Wanna make up more unsubstantiated nonsense? "And I'm still waiting on someone like you- an avowed, unabashed hater of The Order- to cite the technical problems that would be like Ryse's steep framerate drops. " I don't need to. The Order wasn't technically lacking like Ryse at all. I never said it was. Did I have to? The game was rubbish on its own accord even if it was 'working' or not. "says all that needs to be said about how much your opinion on the game should count." Yeah because your opinion on the game is so much more valuable. Lol. Please... @Ob1 "What has Ryse to do with this? " Because, like I explained above: "It was a very similar kettle of fish; visually striking but defunct in almost every other way" Read first then comment. Maybe you might have more bubbles then as opposed to wondering about mine.
I have no interest in bubbles unlike you. Ive never and will never see any similarity between Ryse (hack and Slash) and The Order 1886 (TPS) and theres just no need to bring another game in the discussion as again its just your opinion about Ryse being similar stated as fact
The order might be PS4's Ryse, but at least it gets more right than just the graphics. Imo it's the superior game despite the reviews being the same. And yes ryse was teared apart for a few weeks tops. The order is going on its third month soon and has had way more articles.
No one is saying you can't enjoy The Order. If you bought it and liked it, that should be all that matters. At the same time you can't argue with those that didn't care for it. The majority of the critics were not impressed, some thought it was a great game. It is what it is. At best The Order is a niche game and sales show this. The Souls series has always been more of a niche series, but Bloodborne may change this. It's had a great critical reception and sales are looking good too.
Ryse was never treated as bad as Order.. Please. I see lots of ppl saying they can't take their heads out of Bloodborne.. That's the great thing about this game. I had the same feeling when i played Demon's Soul.
"The game is rubbish and it deserves to be put on the stake." Nonsense. It's an average game with far above average visuals. I never had a problem with scores in the 6s but going below that is honestly bizarre to me. "Ryse was ripped apart from the moment it was revealed and also critically lambasted more so than the Order (and rightly so). You didn't see me or others launching such a bitter defence in its favor." We didn't see article after article attacking Ryse for a year before release, and yes people did defend it. "The Order is criticised mostly because it was universally panned." If it was universally panned the average score wouldn't be in the 6s.
The Order was supposed to be Sony's AAA blockbuster selling 5-10 million units (per Prachter). It flopped critically and commercially. Bloodborn was supposed to appeal only to hardcore Souls fans and it is a critical and commercial homerun.
Please tell me you didn't honestly quote Pachter?! LMAO
The Order is a turd and Bloodborne is a gem. It's to be expected.
I think hype killed the order more than anything. Most people probably approached it with the mindset that it would be PS4's gears but with an actually good/original story and atmosphere.
@pivot On the opposite, the game didn't pack enough punches at the cost of 60$. All those hype and hating articles help the game's sale number quite a bit. The same can be said for lots of last year's games, Wacth Dogs for example.
Press box to look at order box. Use stick to turn around box. Meh lets get bloodborne.
The Order isn't the greatest game ever for sure, but I enjoyed it and started a second run through the game. I love the atmosphere in The Order. I can just walk around in that game and soak up the atmosphere. It's a nice change from ragging cars in Driveclub. One of the reasons I game is to escape, and playing an atmospheric game like The Order from time to time is the perfect way to do that. Oh well, back to my kids fighting...
I liked The Order also. I actually think of it like Knack. Decent game, nothing amazing, but I didn't feel like I wasted my money or time playing it. I personally give it a 7.5, but could see why others would give it a 6.5, but lower than that is unwarranted on an objective level. The atmosphere was one of the best in any game I've seen, the characters though didn't pop like they should have. To me, the story seemed like it was meant to be much more ambitious, but they had to cut stuff either due to time constraints or because they wanted to make it into a trilogy or something. There were some parts which seemed like they should have had game play but nothing happened(when you find the vampires in the shipping yard for instance). Nothing was technically wrong with the game, and the gun play was good, but the cover system was clunky and didn't always work the way it was supposed to, particularly moving from one cover to another. In the end, the resolution left me wondering why it was a big deal that the bad guy happened to be the bad guy. There was never really anything that said what all the hubbub was about. I hope that's something they fix if they make a sequel, but it would have been more meaningful and made me anticipate more if they had actually presented that part of the story, which is really the underlying motivation of the characters anyhow.
Wait you mean too tell me a newly released game managed to beat a month old game??Stop all the presses call obama,Queen of England,Prince of Saudi Arabia et etc...and let them know *Rolls eyes* @John Doe Completely agree.Desperate journalit's for hits.
Damn right. Bloodborne is actually an amazing game.
Bloodborne is really "pressuring" me to get a PS4, as I buy the platforms based on its games. I've got a lot to play right now, so idk when I'll get that PS4, but there's no doubt I'll be getting one. Between Bloodborne and Persona 5, it will definitely be happening.
Gearnuke is a damn awful site, its one of the worst for me along with Polygon.
I know very little about the site. I do know that it's hilarious how they came up with the data for this factual sounding headline. They used the PS store rating system to come up with this lol.
What's wrong with polygon? They have smart writers, and smart commenters.... Never mind, I answered my own question.
who would have thought bloodeborne would be more popular than the order last year? i know dark souls fans would love this game but i didnt really expect the order to have such a bad reputation. i mean i guessed from the start that the order looked bland in terms of gameplay but i didnt think it would do that badly.
Well The Order failed in terms of critical reception so there's that. Bloodborne then came up and was under the spotlight as the next big PS4 exclusive and it shone through. I didn't expect it to be more popular at all yeah but I think its great. The more people that play BB the better.
Literally everyone that wasn't a troll trying to convince themselves that a multi-million seller franchise like the Souls series was just some "niche" series that couldn't do anything for PS4.
O please i bought demon and dark souls and i'm really on the fence with bloodborne but let's not act like selling a few million on multiple platforms between 3 games makes it a multi million seller franchise it's a niche series and rightfully so this punishing type of gameplay is only for a few I would only use the term multi million sellers for games that actually manage to sell a few million on a single platform Games like GTA for example
Bloodborne was made with love and care. The Order was made with making money in mind!
Ready at dawn made a huge mistake in putting gameplay as their third priority before graphics and cinematic storytelling
I don't mind the disagrees If you are feeling offended and want to justify your purchase.. after spending so much on a game you want to believe that you made the right purchase.
Well said. People that spent money are defending their purchase so they don't look dumb.
And people who haven't spent money or played it are just going on what others think. I totally get not dropping $60 on something you might or might not like, but don't take someone else's opinion as gospel. Calling someone dumb for liking something you haven't even tried is, well, dumb.
People are disagreeing because you made it sound like Bloodborne wasn't made with profit in mind. Because every video game is. Bloodborne was just done right AND will inevitably make a profit.
I don't like FPS. That doesn't mean i go around and say all FPS games are crap n useless. I like seeing my character move around not just see the hands. I like story driven games. I like single player games more. That was pretty much what Order was and i liked it. Not because i needed to justify my purchase.
Yeah I disagree because of the money making thing you said. That's clearly not true. I have no idea what would make you think that, other than what Silent said about every game being made with some amount of profit in mind. A cash grab The Order was not.
@Frodosmugins, I didnt disagree because of that. I disagreed because the game was not created as a cash grab. They spent like 4 years of development time and huge amounts of money just to create a cinematic experience in a videogame. I dont like The Order for that reason, its just a cinematic experience with sugar coating but no meat inside. But still I think its wrong to say that it was a cash grab, I cant even imagine how it could have had such a massive appeal to sell that well.
The Order was made as a showcase for what the PS4 could do visually
If gameplay is sacrificed for graphics, what good is this showcase? The Order is not the game I would use to show what the PS4 is capable of. If anything it showcases what happens when devs focus on graphics instead of a well balanced game. Sony's strength has never been placed on graphic fidelity, it has been on the variety of their first party offerings. Since the PS4 launch too much focus has been on graphics and resolution while gameplay has taken a back seat.
@death your comment is just wrong
If you think the order was a cash grab, you clearly didn't research enough. The devs were so passionate in their videos about their goal for the game and you could see they really loved working on it. At the end of the day they achieved what they wanted, whether It was a critical success or not. I think bloodborne has taken everyone a bit by surprise where it is more popular than anticipated. It's done a really good job of creating a compelling atmosphere and making this type of game more accessible to people. At the end of the day I would say Bloodborne is the better game of the two, but at the same time they are completely different games that both deserve a place in the gaming world.
There was a lot of care put into creating the world of The Order. Almost everything had an amazing amount of detail. Yahtzee commented how you could walk into some side room, and there was some object that was so immaculately detailed that it probably took the artist a month to create...and that if that time had been spent on other aspects, that the game could be better. You don't see that kind of stuff in a cash grab game. When's the last time you saw an Assassins Creed or COD with so much detail? The music, presentation, and mocap(tons of it), is fairly expensive to do. They also created their own engine for the game, which isn't something a studio would do for making money. On top of that, the game released unbroken and worked, another thing you don't see in cash grabs. I think both studios care about the games they make. [email protected] just went for a different experience, and it seems incomplete to me, but eventually they had to release it, likely due to Sony telling them they were simply out of time, and they did delay the game.
I love and hate bloodborne. I hate that you are killed so easily, have to restart everything and lose your blood points. But I love it because it's so addictive, rewarding and challenging. I love the art, the character designs and the gameplay. Easily one of the best games I've ever played.
Wow....what people will do to sink to new levels to continue to bash The Order....so what Bloodborne is selling better, they are two different games and The Order is a very good game (On Ch. 4 now love the way the story is told!). People need to stop trying to be sneaky with the subliminal jabs at certain games just to derail other people from buying them because that's all these sites with titles such as this does and its uncalled for.
You have people bash The Order all day, you have people that defend it like it's better than it is. In the end it seems to balance out. I don't think anyone should derail others from buying The Order, but at the same time I don't think people should buy The Order without researching a little. The Order is not a game for everyone and without some research you may be very disappointed. Read the reviews and ignore the scores.
Well said.....I've always said its not for everyone, watch a few videos and read up on the game before you make a decision.
Personal choice yes. Half the bashers out there were just jumping on the bandwagon. I thoroughly enjoyed The Order. Yes, it's an atypical game, but was great in its own right. I never felt like the QTEs dominated the game like so many claimed. Half the arguements against it were not legit when you really put things into perspective...there have been plenty of crappy games that got passes just because. Bloodborne is an incredible game! I was going to pass but I caved and bought it. Best money spent so far 2015! Got to push through before W3s released.
Not really a surprise that it did. Bloodborne has GAMEPLAY, Bloodborne is a FUN GAME, and isn't a movie with playable sections. Bloodborne is CHALLENGING, BEAUTIFUL, and the GOTHIC art direction is better than what they did with the order. When you beat BLOODBORNE you have a sense of accomplishment as you will have you own story for how you beat each enemy in the game and feel GREAT and so will your friends and other players that have the game. When you beat the order you feel like you wasted $60 because no replayability. This is what happens when you make a challenging yet rewarding game that knows what it is, A GAME. Not making a PLAYABLE MOVIE and selling it as a GAME. MULTIPLE ENDINGS, 30+ Hours of GAMEPLAY, CUSTOMIZATION, CO-OP, PVP, and no ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY is what a lot of games should start focusing on instead of GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS.
"When you beat the order you feel like you wasted $60 because no replayability. This is what happens when you make a challenging yet rewarding game that knows what it is, A GAME. Not making a PLAYABLE MOVIE" This is exactly why this game is not for everyone.....Heavy Rain and even Wolfenstein where single player games and there is not much replay value in them either but the where awesome single player experiences and I didn't see it as a waste of 60 bucks, I'd like to see more single player games and less tacked on multiplayer games. Co-op for The Order would of been a great idea, maybe down the road in the sequel. Not every games has to be a run and gun, shoot-kill-move on rinse and repeat thing. Gamers that just want to jump right into the action without reading dialog are most likely the ones complaining about the game and just want to start shooting....sometimes its nice to switch up for a change. I think gamers (mainly the younger ones) have been corrupted with hack-n-slash, COD twitch shooter games and when they play something like this where you have to listen to the story...that attention span wears out fast and the agitation kicks in. The Order from my perspective, is for the older crowd or ones who don't mind a engaging movie like story mixed with gameplay, not for everyone as I said.
"This is exactly why this game is not for everyone.....Heavy Rain and even Wolfenstein where single player games and there is not much replay value in them either but the where awesome single player experiences and I didn't see it as a waste of 60 bucks, I'd like to see more single player games and less tacked on multiplayer games. Co-op for The Order would of been a great idea, maybe down the road in the sequel" I have no problem with Heavy Rain and Wolfenstien, or Beyond Two Souls. The reason why is because there are multiple endings and the games were very entertaining. The Order 1886 suffered from all gfx no substance, where as Beyond and Heavy Rain had great story telling and multiple endings and each choice you made in those games affected the story making you more engrossed. It's not single player experiences that are the problem it's developers throwing money into GFX GFX GFX and not doing anything else with the game. I loved Wolfenstien The New Order, and I have more Single Player games than multiplayer games. In fact, I've been playing more JRPG's like SMT Nocturne, and Dragon Quest, because the story and overall quality of games back then are better than what they have done with this console and last console generation. Not every games has to be a run and gun, shoot-kill-move on rinse and repeat thing. Gamers that just want to jump right into the action without reading dialog are most likely the ones complaining about the game and just want to start shooting....sometimes its nice to switch up for a change. Didn't say every game has to be run and gun, unfortunately the majority of the games now are just cinematics cinematics, and little to no gameplay. I dislike Call Of Duty and rinse repeat games such as that. I'm just tired of the graphics fad and people dumb enough to buy these $60 games that are complete and utter trash like Destiny, Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed, and they just blindly defend it. The same thing with people who bought The Order 1886 and Evolve and Dying Light, and make it out to be 10/10 best game ever developed. To me there is no point in buying a game that has no replay value, where nothing changes. Why buy The Last Of Us? You're getting a game that is mostly 90% cutscenes 10% gameplay, and the story never changes. There is nothing you can change in the game except for what gun/item you use, or what enemy you get killed by. If I am to play a game with a hell of a lot of cutscenes I will choose something from Quantic Dream, because they offer dialogue choices and actions that shape the story making the experience refreshing each time. Like I said before, I have no problem with games that have cinematics, its games that are marketed as a game that have no substance and people hype them up and blindly defend them because they are console exclusive or because everyone else is hyping them up. I'm sure I'm going to lose my bubbles for this thread because since I won't blindly defend a SONY exclusive, that makes me an Xbox fanboy. When in reality, I frankly don't give a damn about what console anything is on, as long as the game is good, but in this day and age I'd rather be safe than sorry and not buy some Ubitrash or CinematicDog game.
I get what your saying, but you have to remember your description of "trash" maybe another person's "treasure". Gamers have theirs reasons for why they prefer certain games that some may think its totally absurd, but that's their choice and don't see it as trash and feel what you like is trash. There a a lot of games some of buddies play that I just aren't my thing, is it trash? Maybe to be but I guess not to them.