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Tbh I'm more looking forward to Xenoblade Chronicles X than I am the new Zelda, so the news that it has been pushed back to 2016 doesn't change anything for me really.
TBH same here. New Zelda is cool but it's just an idea at present, whereas Xenoblade Chronicles X is showing us its brilliance. Couldn't be more excited.
I have to say, i want to buy a Wii U just for Xeno X.
wii u is in a league for itself.. i would talk about competing with the other consoles because it's the perfect console companion for whatever you are owning. some amazing games have and will release on Wii U, from Captain Toad to Kirby, Starfox, Xenoblade, Yoshi, Splatoon... I think Wii U owners will have a lot to play, and non Wii U owners will be jealous.
Same here. Zelda is nice an all, but this years highlight regardless was Xenoblade Chronicles X for me.
For sure, and I think that most of us were a bit concerned about Zelda. All the recent updates have been about deep development rather than polishing etc, which meant that it was unlikely Nintendo would be able to finish by Christmas. Ninty would rather delay a Zelda game than release a mediocre one, and I respect them for that. As you say, XBCX brings the flavour anyway. That's a game willing to show us how it's progressing, to let us into the dev cycle with loads of vids and progress updates, and they've got me seriously excited.
That's nice and all but more quality games is better than less quality games. Xenoblade AND Zelda > just Xenoblade. I know delays are for the benefit of the quality of the game but Nintendo atm has nothing major announced for the holidays. Hopefully Retro will have a Metroid game ready. If not ... my Wii U will be collecting dust this holiday. This is why having third party support is so important. For Playstation ... they can lose Uncharted to next year but their holiday will still get the usual big games Madden, FifA, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed etc etc. Glad I am a multi console owner.
Only 3 games i'm looking forward to and thats Devils Third, Yoshi and Zelda but since the last ones been delayed its going to be a very dry year the system. ;) To this day I still can't believe theres no N64 games its like they just don't want to put in the effort when it comes to the WiiU.
Glad I am the owner of all three consoles. I'm with you on Retro having Metroid ready in 2015. Now I did get my PS4 for multiplat games, but more for their exclusives. The Wii U 2015 line up is better then Madden, FifA, COD, Assassin's Creed. IMO Xenoblade > Madden, FifA, COD, Assassin's Creed
To answer the question in the title; The Wii U hasn't competed with its competition much at all to this point, so to delay an important exclusive isn't helping it's cause. It looks to be a 2 horse race with Sony and Microsoft. I know this isn't a popular thing to say among the Nintendo gamers, but it can't be denied. The Wii U has some nice exclusives for sure, but with limited 3rd party developer support, they just can't keep up. The Zelda delay does hurt. It's a sure hit. A sure console seller, that won't happen until maybe 2016. If they're trying to release it the the NX, it could even be 2017.
A shame about Zelda, as the Wii U has been gathering some momentum recently. It's still relying on first-party software far too much for my liking. That said, of all the consoles, they're not releasing half-assed unfinished games. Barely ever read about any of that business with their games. But will slow and steady, keep them in the race? I bet there will be some irresistible deals by Black Friday though, so I might treat myself then and enjoy Bayonetta 2, Splatoon and Mario Kart while I wait for Zelda (not exactly the end of the world).
"It's still relying on first-party software far too much for my liking." I know what you mean, but I'd wager that most Wii U owners didn't actually buy their console for multiplats. Instead, they're happy with Nintendo's first-party games to carry them through with their significant longevity, while perhaps owning another console for the big hitters.
For sure yeah, it'd totally be a secondary console purchase for me. As a PS4 owner though, I'm also tempted with an XO, as their exclusives are hotting up). Ok, I just want to play the Rise of the Tomb Raider in 2015. That's why. Stupid Square-Enix!
I bought a Wii U for their exclusives - mainly Mario, Zelda etc. Unfortunately these titles have been few and far between. I have an XB1 and a PS4 that I use instead. Mostly the PS4.
I see every Nintendo homeconsole since the N64 as a "Nintendo adapter".
What did you mean by this?
It was never going to compete in hardware sales, but software? We still got Xenoblade, Splatoon, Yoshi, Devil's third, Mario maker, those project games, Star fox, plus all the indies and anything announced at e3.
Yup, there's loads to look forward to on the software front. All of those games will do well, forgot about the Project Games! Wonder how they'll be packaged and sold. Oh yeah, Devil's Third. I'm still a bit concerned about whether it will deliver after so many delays and development problems, but fingers crossed!
It doesn't really metter when will the Zelda game come out as long as it's good, which it will be. It's that the WiiU is loosing momentum again, and the shelves that only began resurfacing on the wave of Super Smash, Bayonetta and Toad Tracker suddenly look empty one more time with only poor MParty a lonely new release. At least in Europe where we are in the middle of a 4 month hole until Splatoon. Now there's indeed enough content too play, but the empty shelves just don't look good. And then they announce the Zelda delay, mobile gaming, unclear NX. Somebody in Kyoto must be lost in translation. One more terrible marketing choice for an otherwise fine product.
@Concertoine - So, in other words, not many games in 2015, unless you haven't gotten enough Mario and Yoshi games since the 80's.
"DIE MOTHERFUCKER!" - Ivan in the Nintendo exclusive Devil's Third
Wait... how many Yoshi games are there exactly?
First of all, Wii U's not a competitive console. Secondly, while it has some intriguing exclusives, none of them are likely to be big sellers. Star Fox sales will be low despite fans asking for it. Devil's Third will bomb, Mario Maker will probably sell pretty well. Yoshi's Wooly World will probably sell better than DKC: Tropical Freeze and Xenoblade X sales will probably disappointment. Fortunately, there's enough worthwhile games on Wii U to justify the purchase in my opinion, but it's disappointing that there's still so few titles and most of them are just from Nintendo itself. Nintendo wanted to make a unique home console and it sure got one which is good and bad in the case of Wii U.
It wasn't going to compete with or without Zelda. And just face it people most people grew out of Nintendo years and years ago that's a major reason why their consoles don't sell and only appeal to hardcore Nintendo fans and little kids age 5-10. And Lol at the people above saying they dont care about Zelda that much all of a sudden.
Nintendo published games still sell more than Microsoft of Sony published games by a wide margin overall. As a PUBLISHER ... Nintendo > Sony/Microsoft. People haven't "grown out" of Nintendo games ... it's just that their consoles themselves ONLY support Nintendo games. The system with the most core THIRD PARTY titles is the system that sells the best to core fans. Nintendo hasn't had great third party support since the SNES. That is why their systems sell less and less other than the Wii which sold to casuals ... not as much to core gamers who mostly bought the 360 and/or PS3. When someone buys a Nintendo home console ... they are 99% of the buying it SOLEY for Nintendo's published games. When someone buys a Playstation ... some buy it for Sony ... more buy it for Take-Two .... even more buy it for EA ... some more buy it for Activision ... others for UBIsoft .... add some more for Bethesda ... keep adding to this overall total for Capcom fans ... then Konami fans ... UBIsoft fans ... Warner Bros Int fans ... etc etc etc. It's Nintendo vs EVERYONE combined. So no ... Nintendo's GAMES haven't lost their appeal. Many of their games still sell 5 to even over 10 million. They have more 10 million sellers than ANY other SINGLE publisher. It's just that their systems are ONLY Nintendo vs the combined fanbase of all other publishers. Unless it sells to casuals ... there is no way a Nintendo home console can outsell the playEVERYTHINGstation 4.
Very well said! Never looked at it like that.
Removing Zelda from lineup hurts WiiU no doubt about it. Cant mask it any other way. As I posted elsewhere when it releases it will mark the end of the hardware cycle (as it always does) and folks don't like being in on the end. Instead of being one of many great games. Its like Nintendo's last hoorah! That's being said, Devil's Third will be a cult classic, but if Bayonetta 2 is any indication of potential sales, its not going to do well. And even though many fans want, deserve and are excited for Xenoblade Chronicles X I doubt it will be a big a seller as say BloodBorne. Nintendo fans just don't come together in that way and really nothing sells quite as good as Mario games. I can say this definitively: If Xenoblade X gets delayed. Iwata and company should just move on to the next hardware. They wont sell sh%$!.
No. zelda was the ace up nintendo's sleeve. Don't get me wrong, X looks great. But the 2 franchises most people associate with Nintendo is Zelda and Mario. My guess is Nintendo will release a few HD remasters to appease the fanboys. As a Wii U owner myself I am disappointed with the way this system was handled. I really enjoy the gamepad, and Mario in HD is awesome. But nintendo's huge errors have outweighed the positive. Especially the VC library. It's pathetic. The Zelda reveal trailer last year got me hyped again, but now I feel as though Nintendo is just leaving its customers a trail of breadcrumbs leading to the NX.
The aces up Nintendo's sleeves were Mario Kart and Smash, both already released. Zelda, though a good seller on its own, doesn't come anywhere close to those two franchises, and a lot of other Ninty franchises for that matter. Because of this, I don't really think delaying Zelda to next year will hurt the Wii U as much as some people claim.
So people complain about the "rehashing" of franchises but then when the game gets delayed to make sure it's perfect everyone freaks out.... Logic!
That's the point of the article. ;)
Ah! I see! I apologize for not actually reading the article. I've just come to expect that almost every Nintendo article is a bad one haha
The flip-flop. Journalist first didn't consider Wii U at all regarding competition but now they do lol
No, but it definitely will have the best first-party games compared to the competition.
I'm still excited about Devil's Third and Xenoblade!
>Metroid (hopefully) >Yoshi >xenoblade x >devils third >Mario maker >animal crossing U (possible) >fire emblem Wii u >Pokemon Wii u (possible) >Battalion wars (maybe) >F-Zero (maybe) >star fox >Mario galaxy 3? (Maybe or new Mario)
Sure it can, it all depends on Nintendo and how they choose to promote it this year. As for the games, there are still plenty of good ones coming out, so that's not a problem.
Whats not to understand at this stage!? Nintendo and the Wii U offer AAA games unavailable on any other platform, PC included. Dont just take my word for it, research any well respected gaming website and you will find games exclusive to Nintendo hardware well reviewed, the majority deemed 'essential'. It (for me) boils down to taste. Yes, I have owned every PlayStation - up to and including the PS4, and while I have enjoyed many, many games on each, it is with Nintendo hardware I have my best gaming memories, and that definitely includes the Wii U.
The WiiU couldn't compete in 2014 with their two biggest franchises in Mario Kart and Smash, plus they released Donkey Kong, Sonic, Captain Toad, Bayonetta 2, and a Zelda spin off. So even with Zelda I don't think they would have been able to compete this year.
yeah no wonder it MK8 and Smash were awarded for best of their genres, Nintendo best developer and dominated NeoGaf GOTY. Games matter right....
Oh, come on. It's clear captainexplosion is talking about sales figures, not game quality. Even with Nintendo's arguably two biggest home console franchises releasing in the same year, the Wii U didn't manage to come even close to the other two consoles in terms of sales. If we're talking games-wise, yes, Nintendo has plenty of stuff to compete this year, even without Zelda. But sales-wise? Nope, it won't get much better than it already is. Everything points that it will come dead last in overall sales, and there's very little possibility of that changing at all.
,, what, is Zelda the last game coming out for the system or something?
it's only opinion based on speculaion, based on hearsay, based on absolutely nothing of substance. maybe they're right...or wrong.
It's also the only **** opinion they ever post.
The last heavy hitter from nintendo, not the last game. Hope we're wrong. I'd like another mario game, like Galaxy or mario64 but I think that's unlikely. They've probably shifted allot of development over to NX already.
The only games i was planning on buying were Zelda and Xenoblade X. I got a feeling Starfox might be pushed back too to add in super all range mode or something. I really don't want forced motion controls for starfox. Please just make it optional. I'm not entirely sold on splatoon either. It looks okay, but not something I'd buy. They really need to show off that SmT X FE game...
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