MWEB GameZone writes: "It’s obvious that Lisa was originally African American or Latina and that she’s now been made white. On the face of it, it would appear that Tecmo did, indeed, whitewash this character. "But was it racism?"
This is really tough, I wonder if it is really racism.
I think the author needs euthenising. I've read stupid, pointless, even offensive articles online but never have a found an utterly pointless article try to dress it self up as "Holier the Thou". This is a video game, I don't care about whether a character has been altered to white, black or an elephant with six breasts... Actually that last one is pretty cool. Lets not forget that this is a game, this isn't an indictment on the studio or the artists. This is an indictment on the cretin who wrote the article in the first place!! ... and to answer the pointless question. NO IT ISN'T RACIST, IT'S A GAME, DON'T BE SO BLOODY STUPID!! Was that too much?
Hold up a min. You can't just Michael Jackson a character just like that and expect no questions to be asked. This is some weird reverse tanning situation. If Itagaki is making these accusations then I think we should take them into consideration. "NO IT ISN'T RACIST, IT'S A GAME, DON'T BE SO BLOODY STUPID!! " Eh? A game can't have racism? THAT sounds stupid to me.
I'm just trying to figure out who thinks this woman is white. http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mgjQD...
@Septic - "Hold up a min. You can't just Michael Jackson a character just like that and expect no questions to be asked" Yes you can!. When the film Annie was remade recently, nobody thought twice about a black Annie, since she was an orphan it had no impact on the story so was fine. Please tell me how changing a character in a fighting game from one colour to another changes the game in any way? ""NO IT ISN'T RACIST, IT'S A GAME, DON'T BE SO BLOODY STUPID!! " "Eh? A game can't have racism? THAT sounds stupid to me"" It's a game with strict censorship laws in place in each respected country or union. Opinions may differ from country to country regarding content however this isn't South Africa imprisoning Nelson Mandella, segregation or equal rights. This is a model in a fighting game being changed. Itagaki has a right to his opinion but opinions are like @RSE H0LES... Everyones got one. This is just mine!
Yeah, I think we've been so overrun with false accusations of racism and sexism that gamers have taken a reactionary stance even when things SHOULD be called out or examined. Even if you don't necessarily see this as racist, it is a little...weird. Did they change her color for promos because they thought it would sell the image of the game better?
Lisa Hamilton aka La Mariposa is Latin American. Wikia says she is a luchadora (Mexican wrestler). http://deadoralive.wikia.co... If you compare the two pics her skin tone is definitely lighter in the more recent one. I don't think this was done to 'whitewash' her, I don't share the belief that Tecmo did this as a calculated move move to increase sales as the Dead or Alive games feature other ethnic characters. Maybe it was just a change by the game's art director, as no-doubt other characters are modified between instalments. But then maybe Itagaki knows more about the motivations of the current team. I would have thought that perhaps a Latina character would have a Latina name, but I don't follow DoA lore, maybe it explains this. At the start of this video it shows Lisa in Dead or Alive Final Round. Her darker skin tones contrasts again the white skin of Tina Armstrong. https://www.youtube.com/wat... When I see racism I will be the first to call it out, but it is important you do this with good well-founded reason, and don't flippantly call people or companies 'racist.' But I don't think there is quite enough evidence here.
Would it be racist if they turned a character who was originally white, and made them black? Probably not, because there is a double standard in today's society. Keep the PC nonsense out of gaming.
Not seeing how the article can admit that race is treated differently in Japan, and yet imply that this changing of a character's color is racist based on Western standards. Isn't that a little (a lot) contradictory? To make matters worse, they post the launch trailer, where I'm 100% certain I see a dark-skinned female both doling out the harshness and getting her butt handed to her. This female wasn't presented as one of the new characters, so unless I missed some other such woman over the last few iterations, that could ONLY be Lisa. Meaning the article answers its own question(not with the stupid answer it also gives in the title) with its content, all the while acting as if that question still remains. In other words: this was done for hits.
"Isn't that a little (a lot) contradictory? " The term is ethnocentrism. It's an actual term to describe this, and it's extremely common for people and the media to do such a thing. It's an interesting topic, I encourage anyone who is interested in culture to go look it up. Dunno if I'd call his thoughts contradictory, as it just makes two statements about different cultures. I don't find it racist though. Racism is defined as "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races." Since there is absolutely nothing to say that this change was made due to this belief it shouldn't be called racism, nor should the accusations be made. It's possible that the art director, the producer, the director, or focus groups just found the lighter skin more appealing. I personally would have never thought about the change were I asked my opinion in a focus group, because I never thought Lisa was black. I honestly just thought she was one of those heavy beach going tanned women, mostly due to her bleached blonde hair color.
Let's face it, racism is real - and exists. Still.
I still haven't accepted there are people even slightly different than myself.
And it's as old as humanity itself. Ethnocentrism and tribalism were its original forms.
I think of it more as idolizing. To be specific, perceiving the fairer skin pigmentation to be more attractive. That's their own opinion, and their own game to do with as they please.
I have the X1 version, and she still has her color from what I have player. So this makes me concern as to what Itagaki is referring to, or has he lost his mind. Don't know if its platform specific or in a particular arena.
Can't speak to the game itself, but in the promo pic for La Mariposa, she is clearly white. Or at the very least her skin has been lighten a lot.
It looks like a white person with a suntan had the suntan removed.
In the brighter levels with lots of "natural" sunlight, or stadium lighting, her skin looks like she hasn't tanned in a while. In the darker scenes her skin actually looks a bit lighter in comparison to other games in the series, but this is likely because the devs worked on more realistic looking skin, so the light is probably a bit more natural when being rendered.
Just thinking abt the gaming climate & all the talk over the past years re diversity in gaming - then it was unwise to do this.
People should protest. There's not enough of that goin on today. PC bulls***
Racism is everywhere. Used to it sadly, still won't stop me from playing and enjoying myself
What so changing a black character to white is racist but changing a white character to black is not lol... makes lots of sense.
By certain peoples logic, yes. It's sad.
no, changing one of many white characters into a black person is one thing, making the only black characters in the whole game/movie/whatever white is another matter entirely. would people be defending this if there were only two white characters in the game and one or both of them were turned black?
I don't like any characters that have already been created being changed. But it happens so often with white characters that I don't care that much anymore and definitely don't care when a black character is turned white. It doesn't matter how many characters are already of a certain race, changing them is changing them. My favorite Marvel and DC characters have been changing race a lot in the past couple years and I no longer care about what race they are anymore. If you are white you have to learn not to care when your favorite heroes go dark or you are labeled racist apparently.
@drpepperdude Yep, and then you got Thor becoming a woman... A character based on Norse mythology who is the "son of Odin", is now a woman... Apparently you can change mythology... But if you complain, you're either racist or sexist.
actually, Thor hasn't become a woman. i don't klnow why people keep spouting that at some sort of example of the "evils of feminism" it's just not bloody true. Thor the son of Odin is still around, he just can't wield the hammer any more as he not worthy for some reason. there is a woman who now wields Mjolnir and has taken the title Thor, but the person called Thor Odinson is still around, he just isn't the god of thunder nor wielder of the hammer any more. he now uses his old axe Jarnbjorn. maybe you should check your facts before you go off on a "sjw/feminist/white knight/feminazis are ruining everything" whine. i wouldn't call you sexist for complaining about that, i'd call you an idiot.
Funny about Thor. Never knew his character was based on being able to wield the hammer, nor did I know that his ability to wield the hammer is what made him a God. Thought the comic was about him, not his hammer, and not about this new woman. Given that Thor is the titular character, you'd think that the stories would mostly focus on him. It's like watching Dexter only to end up watching a series about some waitress who happens to serve him lunch every day. The female Thor is being marketed as "the new Thor". It's rather pompous of you to call people idiots for not knowing the stories of Thor, and what's going on with the series, but don't blame him since Marvel is more than happy to keep that PC good will for what was a failing comic, and the character only continued to exist due to the Avengers. I don't fault Marvel. They want to diversify their comics. Whatever, they're welcome. But two Iconic characters, Thor now focusing on a female main character, and Captain America is now black(and yes it's a different guy). But people can't complain without being called racist or sexist...or idiots, when their biggest problem is that the stories are now focused on something other than what they came to love. Marvel wants to go the diversity route, which is good. But they're half-assing it by trying to do it off the back of their already established IP's, instead of taking the risk to create something new. I also find it odd since Marvel already has tons of strong female and black main characters who are well respected within it's universe.
Lisa is not supposed to be black anyway. I think she's latin. Maybe a little light brown, but I'm OK with her new look.
There are black Latinas in Brazil,Cuba,Puerto Rico and even Barbados
I think Lisa's bi-racial. And with a name like Lisa Hamilton, it's most likely.
When people throw around the word racist anymore I just ignore them. Most overused word for the last few years. Racism in videogames now? Get the hell outta here.
I wouldn't say it's blatant racism.. just dumb business decisions from Tecmo as always.