Schools have threatened to report parents to the police if thier children are caught playing violent video games such as Call Of Duty and Grand Theft Auto.
Well, children probably shouldn't be playing GTAV or COD while they are at school anyway.
I would love to hear the convo between the police and the school when they tried reporting a parent for this lol , the police would think it was a prank call I can imagine. Teacher: "hello I would like to talk to the police please" Police: "hello is there an emergency" Teacher: "yes I would like to report a most heinous crime, I have caught a student playing a video game, I feel the parent should serve some jail time or maybe have their child taken away from them" Police: dial tone .........
Ha ha. Although in the UK they could very well send in some kind of riot squad. Gotta love the disagrees. I guess it can only raise the standard of education everywhere if, instead of learning to read and write, school students control CJ or Tommy Vercetti in order to get 100% in GTA.
A person can report anything they'd like to the police. But letting a child play Call of Duty is no worse then letting them watch Saw V. And we all know that's not illegal.
"Journalists" Should Be Reported To Police if they write THERE articles with grammar like this.
Their, their. You shouldn't let yourself get upset at that. Go and play a nice video game. I'm sure it'll make you feel better.
Eh, mistakes happen.
- What seems to be the problem, officer? - You're under arrest - For what? - For writing "there" when you meant "their" - I'm getting the chair, aren't I?
Lol I couldn't help it.
well it depends. I mean lunch break or any free time why can't they be playing? Obviously class time devices should be put away. Course that never would have stopped us. I think most frightening is the fact this school or district doesn't understand the video game ratings are parental guidelines and while a lot of parents probably don't give two craps, bad parenting isn't a crime unless neglect or abuse takes place or anything else off the top of my head I failed to recognize. Perhaps the school should be concerned with teaching instead of parenting because that is exactly what they appear to be trying to do. Considering it's the UK maybe M games have laws governing them like Alcohol or Tobacco, idk but if thats the case perhaps Parliament wants to rethink that one.
I agree, if they're at school than the shouldn't be play irrelevent games to their education during a class but in their own home or free time at school then it's fine.
If my children want to experience mature rated games they'll experience them. Who the hell thinks they can tell my kids they can't have something when I'll let them have it.
Dafuq?it's a advisory rating.Not a felony like alcohol.
The UK overreacting as per usual. Pointing the finger elsewhere instead of taking the blame for anything.
The independent is putting a lot of these articles out lately. Just utterly bonkers subjects.
You may not see it as a problem but I have seen children as young as 7 play "GTA" in the playground. It is a issue of neglect (which is a serious issue) introducing children as young as this to such content (sexual and violent). Doing this type of thing really does screw with young children. Hence the advisory age in the first place. I welcome the news since it will make the parents aware how much damage they could do to their child (socially) and how a game isn't suitable for young children
@superman, really? They teach worse stuff at church and even babies go there.
@BitbyDeath I don't remember being taught how to assault pedestrians in church, but ok.
@reeze No, but if you're Catholic your child may be taught how to be molested and you can't do that in GTA.
@Gwiz The independent released a racist article the other day suggesting that white men be "banned" from leadership positions in student unions. Someone actually thought it wouldn't create outrage. "Bonkers" is definitely the right word.
Whats worse? Running over a computer generated sprite? Or telling kids about a man who got nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be if we were all nice to each other?
My Son likes to watch me play GTA which I watch what I am doing while playing but I recently introduced him to Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes, which he thought was funny and in different ways these are as violent as games without showing blood. Hitting with shovels, bombs, guns, etc.
...I have no words. XD
@iamnsuperman I think you're part of a problem that only looks at games being an influence. You know how many sexual,violent and addictive substance content is out there?.games?They're going to deal with it sooner or later. When a government or an educational institution feels like intervening why not oh i don't know... EDUCATE THEM.!! There's many ways for children to be influenced,like all the shit they see in real life.That couldn't be an influence now could it?.I'm tired of these excuses as if we live in an utopian world order.
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Then what about Zelda?
Ugh if only you said "But then, who is zelda?"
this coming from the UK with all their government sanctioned mass pedophilia obviously they'd rather punish parents for some BS then face up to what really needs to be done.
lol a child can watch a rated R movie if their parent buys the ticket, but they cant play a rated M game their parent bought for them. The rating system is about consent, not hard boundaries.
Yes, but the bigger problem is parents' blatant disregard for the game rating systems (ESRB, PEGI, etc.) until AFTER they see their kid playing the violent and/or graphic game. Then the parents get all up in arms against the developers and publishers of such games when in the end the ONLY person to blame is themselves. The thing is, just like the movie rating systems, the game rating systems are meant to serve as guidelines to help parents decide what is appropriate for their children. "What is appropriate" is a pretty big grey area because age is NOT an indicator of maturity (or mental ability for that matter). Some kids are mature beyond their age and some are not, so every kid will react to the fictional fantasy world of a game differently. Some kids are aware it is a game and don't let it influence their morals, others don't have this ability, BUT it is the parent that knows whether their child has this ability. Should parents be arrested for ignoring the rating system? I think that is a bit extreme, but if you are going to go that far maybe a fine or ticket IF the child shows severe issues such as increased aggression or being uncooperative with their peers or authority as a direct result of playing violent games. Like I said some kids can play games rated above their age without issue because they are able to keep the game from influencing their morals and behaviors (others cannot and it is the parents responsibility in the end).
The only problem is that there is no way to correlate increased aggression or being uncooperative with peers directly with video games. That's s very slippery slope to go down. What if a kid murders another kid and the parents say the night before he was playing GTA. That does not mean GTA made the kid a murderer.
It is something that is difficult to prove because it is something that can be influenced from multiple sources including if the child is bullied causing them to become more aggressive as a defense mechanism or if they are raised in an already violent household. There are too many factors that can contribute. With some kids with severe mental issues violent games don't help matters, but again it is not the sole contributor and again in the end the responsibility rests squarely on the shoulders of the parents of such children to monitor and control what they have access to to prevent any issues as result.
I don't recall things such as the ESRB being law.
ESRB ratings came into existence to prevent there being laws regulating game sales. The game industry didn't want that sort of intervention, so they took it upon themselves to do it on their own. Same as the MPAA doing movie ratings. It's never been against the law.
So should parents be arrested for letting their kids watch R rated movies? How about books not within their age range? Grasping at straws much? OT The school system should be more concerned about the behavior of children, as well as verifying their home life is within reason. Because they're watching videos of someone playing a game doesn't necessarily mean they play them at home. Situations like this is why I'm glad I grew up when I did and not today. It's to the point now if a child sneezes at school they're considered a biohazard and unless "fixed" they can't attend.
Came here to say this, lol.
Figured it was the UK. Nanny state is out of control over there. People just cant be left alone to raise their own kids, teachers and the government have to intervene every chance they get.
If you are American or live in America your point is moot as we are well aware of how " people just can't be left alone to raise their kids" in America and how well that turned out
Well duh in extreme cases the authorities (not just in America) have to intervene like if the child is being abused, has little to no food, or easy access to drugs but were just talking about video games. Article does a horrible job of telling you what age these kids are. If its a 7 year old playing GTA then yea I would say something to the parent but I'm probably not going to call the cops on them. If the kid is 16 then whats the problem? If the parent knows whats in the game and they still buy it for them then why do the police need to get involved? Police should focus on actual crimes not some 15 year old playing GTA.
"If the kid is 16 then whats the problem? If the parent knows whats in the game and they still buy it for them then why do the police need to get involved"? This is the problem the game has a rating of 18, not " if your child is 16 he / she gets a free pass" because with your mentality me as a parent could say I know what the game is about and I think my child who is 7 is mature enough to play this game. It's a slippery slope I do agree that the letter is a bit extreme and they (the schools) and the parents have to sit down and come up with a better solution
Letter is way too extreme. Just going to do more harm then good. They advise 18, its not a law so the police or child services shouldn't be involved. Parents, kids and schools should talk it over if its such a huge problem that it disrupts the learning process of the child playing or the others in the class.
All your children belong to us!
Never forget getting my copy of gta4 waiting in the rain for store to open, 4 women in a car asked if I wanted to wait in the car with them. All 4 women were waiting to get their 7yr old children gta4 cause they demanded there parents get it while they were at school, 11yrs plus is ok imo but 7yr old is disgracful
Why 11 plus? Why not 10 plus or 12 plus?
Because you have to be pretentious at some level when it benefits you.
Seem a bit extreme, especially if the parent is one of those with common sense whose trying to teach their children the difference between Fiction and reality.
Look at the amount of controversy something like the hot coffee part of San andreas caused, purely because children were exposed to it. This is a good thing, adult games for adults! Look at alcohol laws, it's illegal to buy alcohol for someone who's underage, why should games be any different?
It's not illegal to let your kids drink at home though as long as it's not excessive.
Aye, but the parents have a full understanding of what they are doing there. But it's still against licensing laws to sell to someone that's buying for a minor :p
im 100% certain it is illegal to allow a underage person to drink alchohol...which is why we see adults including parents being arrested for it. i dont know what planet you live on.
@wannabe Well you are 100 percent wrong.
The problem is what people consider adult now. When it comes to video games the standard is different compare to others. Personally I let my 7 year old play COD. If he is smart enough to figure out Santa claus is not real when he was 5 years old then he definitely understand the difference between reality and fiction and the consequences. Heck I introduced him to android app dev and he is already developing his own simple apps. Point is, not every one is the same and parents should know their kids enough to raise them how they see fit. Guidelines are great however they should be just that. Guidelines.
It comes down to the 0.1% ruining it for everyone else. I grew up not being limited to age ratings, and I'm glad of that, but these days, the media just blow things out of proportion any opportunity they get. Remember the controversy mass effect faced because of its sex scenes? Or the violence. And blood in gta? Would that have been so big if it was only experienced by people that were old enough to buy it. Films do it all the time, it's just the stigma games have got because of this that it's so limited. The UK government doesn't usually try to prevent these things happening, they just ban it outright.
The media always does that. It is really impossible now days to restrict content. Gone are the days when you have one PC and TV in house that you can sort of control what your kids will have access to. All the hoopla about Mass effect in the end kids can easily get much more adult stuff on the net so it was really quite pointless. Heck, most mainstream mags available now have much more risqué content. In the end it really then does come down to the parent and their relationship with their kids and the trust they can establish. I was slashing pixels since I was 5 years old with my dad. He never did give much credence to what the classification board says because he knew me better than some board. It is the same case with me and my son. People tend to treat kids like idiots now days. I know mine is not. In the end I am the best person to figure out what is appropriate for my child.
Driving a car around GTA V or going off into the countryside enjoying the game world..... sure, ignore the "nigga please" and the "fuck off bitch that's my car" and its great for kids!!!! Minecraft however..... building an obsidian cube around a pig which is alsopplaced inside with TNT..... that's just sick!!!!!
DOGS OF WAR???? I think it's gears of war. I see the point these schools are trying to make but I think the letters to the police is a bit extreme, there has to be a better solution than this as this approach will not be taken seriously
Pretty sure they meant God of War, they just got God backwards... Like their mentality.
Common sense, this is great news in my opinion. The switch from "we should ban violent video games because of the children" to "parents need to take responsibility for their bad parenting" is welcomed. The best thing is it'll mean no more kids being stupid on their microphones during online games in COD and GTA.
"Their" moron. Not "there." Proofread before posting with typos IN THE TITLE!
Reported sure... will anything happen? Most likely not.
...I don't remember writing this.
I let my 11yr and 14yr old daughters play rated M games. Thats me tho. But I also know my kids are more mature than others thier age. And yes that includes GTA and Call of Duty, Mass Effect, MGS, Mortal Kombat, God of War, Red Dead, etc....they have quite the collection of rated T-M games. They also enjoy the great indie games and Minecraft. I don't notice any behavior change in them. They get good grades. My oldest trying to get high honors, great goal. So all kids are different. And thats all I wanted to say..
I was 8 years old when the original Mortal Kombat came out and my parents let me play that. You know the 1 game that practically single handily created the ESRB. Problem is a lot of parents now a days are lousy parents and government thinks it knows better. Sounds like you know what you're doing and sounds like you have great kids. It's the bad ones that ruin it and make every one else look bad.
I'm sure most of you will agree with me that there are way to many unerage kids playing these graphic games. However, its not really a concern of the school (imo) unless grades are affected, or the child's behavior becomes irate in some way. But yeah, to all those parents who buy their kids rated M/18+ games... Please don't.. For the sake of all of the older people that play the games, and for your kid's own good.
Of course it would have to be against the law for it to matter, but in fascist police state America, it's just one bipartisan agreement (local, state, or national) away from happening. There have been many worse laws passed in the recent past (this century), so no, this passing at some point wouldn't surprise me. In fact, it would be par for the course. Forget all the guys defrauding you on wall street, the bailouts, the bail-ins, the spying, the drone bombing, the funding of terrorists all across the globe... and much, much more. Forget all the stuff that really matters that is destroying our country and our lives... lets make a point to solve that grand problem of children accessing mature games. Then we can pat ourselves on the back for doing something as we descend into our own created hell. What gets missed because we pay attention and support, BS causes that don't amount to a hill of beans? Like this. The problem with the USSA is that we do something about things that aren't problems, think we accomplished something, and then ignore our real problems. Barrack Bush and their cronies, the Neo-Con Wall Street crew. You don't have a choice until you demand a candidate who isn't going to sell you down the river like these buttholes.
You have an alright idea. The problem is the people can't demand any candidates unless they have millions or billions to contribute to someone's campaign. The current set up in America makes it almost impossible to run without the backing of someone with deep pockets who has an agenda. The people will never be able to demand a certain candidate unless drastic changes to the system occur and we rid the nation of this horrible two party system that is just two sides of the same coin. That's not going to happen until both parties ruin the nation.
"but in fascist police state America, it's just one bipartisan agreement (local, state, or national) away from happening" Except that the supreme court already ruled against age laws for video games. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Leave the koolaid at home next time.