PlayStation TV sales appear to have skyrocketed following the device's price cut earlier this week.
that means it's actually up by 636%...
logic for that?
i meant money that Sony would be making.. they've cut the price so lesser the profit.
ok, but they are not talking about the profit here they talking about PSTV sales going up by 1272%
would be nice if they specified europe. still too expensive in north america
No, double that
that is NOT how math works lolz even if they said "profit" was up "x" amount of percent, you'd still be wrong... "sales" has ALWAYS referred to the number of units sold.
But the ratings remained the same. Cut price nearly in half and now it is closer to what its actually worth. Just check back in a few weeks and we'll see the percentage drop down just as dramatically after everyone who was on the fence aquires one.
Not even one incidental agree on this post XD But yeah, what the_dark_one said. You must be new here. Or really young.
Well what do you expect when something was over priced and they finally stopped expecting people to buy that? I might even get one now.
they just need to see more sense and lower price of vita cards. lower price nad i will be buying a vita and one of these tv things.
Lol I love How you called it "one of these TV things" makes you sound like a grandpa getting mad at technology.
it was not overpriced. i just think people didn't really have a reason to buy one or sony didn't do enough to convince people. lowering the price of anything is gonna get people to buy it more. this is nothing new.
And a severe lack of advertising, though that's been par for the course with Sony and the Vita. I remember sales of the Vita picking up around christmas time when it had a bit of a presence on UK television but they just seem to have forgotten about it again now. It's some of the most unusual handling of a gaming device I've ever seen.
If you are a fan of the LEGO games Lego Ninjago: Shadow of Ronin PS Vita/PS TV version is really the console experience on the go. So much fun!
Now if they can fix the PSNow pricing we'll all be happy. PSTV is a waste of money. I'm very happy playing my PS Vita games on the regular screen. I haven't seen any advertising for the PSTV. I still won't get one.
I don't even know what the PSTV is? Is it still a Eu/Uk only thing? I bought a Sony TV late last year for a great price, and it has PSNow as well as some remote play features built in (didn't look into exactly what it was, launching the app just starts bugging you to connect a Vita)...also has bluetooth connectivity that allows a DS3 to be paired and connected (for the PSNow stuff)...weirdly though, the manual specifically says this model TV will only work with a DS3, not a DS4... so...is that all the PSTV did outside of typical video streaming? I can understand why no one has ever heard of it, especially considering it seems a lot of newer Sony televisions have it...kind of built in...
@kleptic The PS TV is a PS Vita console, it plays vita games on your tv (and does many of the things a vita can do) rather than being portable.
What would be an appropriate price to you? Not saying you're wrong, but the price has been pretty reasonable for a while now...particularly for the one with the controller, game, and mem card. Think there was just a lack of demand due to terrible marketing, and possibly Sony not caring that much. I imagine they aren't losing money on these things though, or else they'd drop the line entirely.
Not surprisingly, I also have it on my Amazon wish list now. Just waiting until pay day!
I actually bought one on Thursday(day before price drop) then found out on Friday that Sony were dropping it to half price, went back to Argos for a refund of the difference and they would not do it. It was only when i kicked up a fuss and started to quote European consumer law and getting trading standards involved did they relent. One for customer power...
U should've just bring it back, ask for refund sayin it's not working or something and than buy a new one on half price. U could save some stress for yourself
@sonerone I shouldn't have to though, i only bought it the day before(18 hours in fact), I bought a large screen TV last year and it went down in price by £150 one week later, John Lewis had no problems whatsoever in refunding the difference back to me there and then. I just think i got a jobsworth who didnt want to refund the difference. Not many people know that EU consumer law gives the customer alot of power, 90% of customers in my position would have walked out there with nothing and there tails between there legs.
you damn average consumer. all you do is work and buy. no wonder the world is like what it is.
If that price cut come to north america (I don't doubt that it will) I am definitely buying it. Freedom Wars, Tales of Hearts R and Sword Art Online are just 3 of the games I wanna play on TV.
I know you can stream vita to ps tv, but ca you use a ds4 to pkay your vita games? If so, then I'm definitely getting it! Love my vita but the controls are too close for my hands. I also don't like those hand grips.
The PS TV can use a DS4 or Ds3
I'm almost certain that you can, though do your own research on it to be sure.
You can use a DS4. I purchased one specifically for that purpose. Just plug it in to the PS TV and hit the PS button on the controller to assign it and then you can go wireless. After that you only need to pkug it in if you want to use the PS TV to charge it. Personally, I use a separate stand alone charger but the point is it functions like a normal controller on a console.
You absolutely can. I'm using my camo DS4 on it right now.
It's only $89.99 right now on amazon for the bundle. Regular one is $68. Think that's a pretty good price to take the plunge, because all those games are great(can't speak for SAO though). I'd recommend Ys also, but not sure if it's compatible as of yet.
I could never got over how stupid people are. They were always saying that the Vita was too expensive yet they were paying $500-$600 for a phone that at the time the vita released were less powerful and had lower tech. I personally believe they are the reason the Vita is at the state it is. They always preferred to play crappy mobile games vs games like Uncharted, Gravity Rush, Ys, Tokiden, Freedom Wars, Killzone, Little Big Planet, Rayman, Soul Sacrifice and so many more. It's ridiculous IMO.
I love how you got a disagree, and no doubt I will as well, but what you said is absolutely true. People will dish out 4-500 dollars for a phone every 2 or so years, yet complain about the price of the Vita. God above, the entitlement mentality annoys me to no end. People just can't stand to hear the truth. Bubble from me for conveying simple common sense.
Compare a mobile phone to a mobile gaming device is the truth? You sir just went full potato
I love how stupid your argument is. Comparing a phone to a Vita. Last I checked I couldn't make a phone call on my Vita. Hey I have an idea, lets compare it to my Harley, it makes just about as much sense.
So to you the ability to make phone calls is worth the extra $200-$300? And FYI the vita has Skype so yes you can make phone calls with it.
You can make phone calls with it with Skype.....the 3G version didnt sound so bad after all, considering that you are paying for mobile data, and in top of that, a cheap Skype plan. Then again by the time the 3G version came out, lte service was beginning to take over.
Oops. Morpheuzpr just made OldDude look real silly. The point Morpheuzpr was making was that some people drop 400-500 or more every year or so on REPLACEMENT phone - i.e. they already had a phone for calls - and yet these gamers complained that the Vita was too expensive. Incidentally, as much as I love my Vita, the memory cards ARE too expensive and I think that's held back people from buying one. I hope Sony address that issue next. This price for PS TV is a no brainer. Play PS4 games from a hotel room on a work trip? Yes frickin' please! :)
Sony should do what phone service providers do by offering subsidized vitas for a 2 year commitment to PS plus or something along those lines. I would guess most people don't pay $600 for a phone but through some sort of subsidized program or payment plan. Besides, phones are inherently more in demand due to necessity. I'm sure only a very small minority buy phones for gaming.
Smartphones and that particular market is in a whole different class than the dedicated portable handheld crowd. Phones appeal to a wider audience, has A LOT more uses and is a necessity to most people of the world. The Vita is not, it caters to the niche hardcore gamer demographic which are not willing to spend 500-600 on a gaming system, they sure as heck wont spend anywhere near that for a portable gaming handheld.
I'm always a little aghast at the logic some people employ here. "So to you the ability to make phone calls is worth the extra $200-$300?" Like what kind of Sony juice have you been sucking down? I'm all for dedicated gaming platforms, but comparing them to Smartphones is Grade A stupid. My phone is basically a little computer, my Vita is not. It's a game machine that does game machine things. ALSO, STOP, STOP, STOP making value judgments for other people. You think the Vita is a good value, others would rather buy a phone then a dedicated game machine, some people (me) just don't like using them. There isn't a one size fits all in this situation and sometimes, SOMETIMES people value the functions a phone does infinitely better than a Vita (Apps, Web Browsing) far more than games on the go.
I don't know how that comparison fits at all, basically saying all those people who pay unlocked prices for phones (like me), are buying ybrm with the intention of using it as a gaming device. I sure as hell don't care much for games on phones, and I personally haven't seen people complain about the price of the Vita. I do always see complaints about the games available, that being that there aren't enough, or that the system isn't taken advantage of. All those people you say who prefer "crappy mobile games" were never in the market for the Vita in the first place. To somehow come to the conclusion that they are the reason the Vita is in the state that it is, it just sounds like you're coming to the defense for something you have no obligation to defend.
I think it's problems lie more in the perception that it doesn't have any games. The system was never really overpriced for what it is. The 3DS was only like $20 cheaper upon the Vita's release and it is nowhere near as capable. Memory cards made the Vita less appealing as they were required. The constant barrage of misinformation about the system hasn't helped it sell well. Other than that, Sony gave up marketing the system way too soon, and instead of trying to be clever with the name, they should have just called it the PSP2, so people would recognize it for what it is.
How good is the PS4 game streaming with this ? . Just tried the updated PS4 remote play with my Z2 and still not impressed . My internet is a good 70mb download and 11mb upload and still the remote play is mediocre ? .The picture breaks up a lot and can`t understand why .
it happens to me when i'm far from the PS4 and the wifi signal isn't very high. i dont know how good Z2 is with remote play. maybe it depends on the device. in the case of PSTV you can remote play with ethernet cable
Wtf I remote play with my z2 and download is 6mb and 2mb for upload and it's almost flawless :/ but lately my remote play hasn't been working gotta find a fix because I wanna try blooddbourne with it.
This is what I mean, can't understand why the remote play doesn't work properly?. And just to clarify, when trying with Z2 I'm right next to ps4 and router. Couldn't be any closer!.
@nitrogav I'm on my bed a good 8-10 feet away from PS4
Connect your ps4 to your router with an ethernet cable and it should be a lot better
My PS4 is cabled to the router which makes this more puzzling. I even bought the official game controller mount to use remote play!.
Are you connecting to directly to the PS4 or using wifi?
you're using it in your house with 70Mbps connection and still you call it mediocre? what? that's kinda strange because I7m on a 10Mbps connection and remote play works flawlessly on my Vita TV and Z3 Tablet Compact. even PSNow put the minimum requirement at 5Mbps. something just doesn't add up
Yes weird eh ?
And you are automaticly in a better possition than me because I cant even get my Z2 to connect to my PS4.
nintendo should follow they insist on charging new prices for everything old, but they fail to see they'll sell more with reasonable, much lower pricing of their older games on the eshop
Bought it for 100. Never regretted it.
I don't get it?? Seriously Im trying to understand from a none biased point of view. Didn't all the PS fans Bash MS for having tv functions already built into the XBOX1? Theres a lot of hipocrcy going on here. So everyone goes crazy for psTV but MS can't talk about TV stuff? Sony launches a tv show on PSN (POWERS) and it's ok. is it just a cool thing these days to just hate on things unfairly? I thought ps gamers wanted Games? Once agian I have both. PS4 is a great/ gaming console that defiantly has gotten a lot of things right this time around, and so is the Wii U.( wii u games look amazing) But Xbox1 is just a better all around experience for anyone wanting to do more than just gaming. It's just funny to watch. Can someone please(with intelligence"preferred) Explain to me why so much hypocrisy? I can always tell gamers that are extremely biasised that don't have both, or all three systems because they say some of the most ridiculuce things I've ever heard. truly this is the time to own both systems, if your a gamer first( some would say PC but I'm not that much of a Die hard gamer to hook a pc up to my tv). I enjoy them both(ps4, and xbox1) on my 60inch entertainment hub. Someone please explain? thanks
Playstation TV stands for non portable gaming console ,somehow they need to separete PS Vita and this console(basicaly its the same console)..only by adding NAME TV -if you want to operate this device you need TV-you dont have displey build in device like in the VITA Xbone on the other hand at the beginning was heavely advertised for none gaming functions..TV staff, kinect ect. There is no hypocrisy man ,its all in your head :P Sorry for bad explanation ,my English is bad.
People complain when Microsoft pushed TV because it was during the console reveal, which gave the impression that was where their focus was, rather than gaming. Sony's PStv is a separate, optional device from the PS4. This gives the impression that its not a primary focus, but rather a supplementary focus. Their primary focus is still gaming. Gamers didn't complain because its OK to focus on other things just as long as gaming is priority. Not to mention Microsoft's TV push during their reveal was during a long drought of 360 exclusives, so it didn't help with the perception that they were losing focus on core gamers.
It's human nature, the same reason why die-hard democrats and republicans will, seemingly, defend to the death issues that are in the interest of their respective party. Has nothing to do with ethics or sound reasoning. Mass media has made easier than anytime in history to be a mindless follower and be blind to logic. It's how people make sense of their life by identifying with political parties, neighborhoods, class, brands. If any doubt is cast on any of these identities they've established for themselves, instincts will justify making warped logic in order to bring stability back. To do otherwise would force people to step out of their comfort zone. Stepping out of your comfort zone is the key for growth and progress. Partly why Nintendo is ostracized from the gaming community because the masses don't understand there changes or 'gimmicks' because it's not within their comfort zone.
I reckon people understand Nintendo's changes, they just don't agree with them. Gamers don't ostracize Nintendo, they do it themselves by alienating their console from the core gamer (started with the Wii, not getting 3rd party support and they have failed to get it back). Core gamers have made it clear what they want, Nintendo chooses to walk a different path. Its their prerogative, but its ours as consumers to not buy their product if it doesn't align with what we want. The other part of your comment, although correct, is irrelevant to the initial question. There is no underlying psychological reason for why gamers are on board with pstv and were not on board with Xbox One being a TV box. We simply want gaming devices first and foremost, simple as that.
I guess you don't know what ps tv is or you read the article. The ps tv allows you to play vita, psp, and ps1 games on your TV with a ds3 or ds4. You can also use remote play with your ps4.
Its funny, I just checked Amazon NA and the price was raised from a few days ago.
Once people realise its pretty useless - not too long then, trade in 'sales' will see a similar increase.
How exactly is it useless? At this price, it's worth it just to play the PS4 on another TV in another room, or in a hotel, or on holiday, etc. It's that or buy another PS4 and a bloody great big carrying case! PS TV slips into your pocket - it's the smart choice.
That would be fine, but - from reports - the latency and issues in playing on another TV in another room are plentiful. Yes, a good(ish) idea - perhaps, but badly executed by all accounts. Besides, a 'good' price is only a good price if you actually wanted the product previously...
^"from reports". "By all accounts". Please... It's was fine for most people at launch and it's improved with firmware updates since. Just last week frames per second maximum to 60fps! You don't want much do you? lol It's a good price for anyone who wanted either a Vita (for the games), a PS4, or both.
Remote play has worked fine since the PSP without many reports of latency ever being an issue. It works perfectly fine on the PSTV, I use it regularly. The only people I see complaining about latency are Xbox fan boys, and occasionally people saying they play it over a crappy network. The price here is a good one just to play the Vita games that are out there, and there are plenty of them. The extra stuff is good too, but the only feature I use outside of games is remote play in the bedroom.
I love my vita but if i didnt have one I would probably pick one of these up. The system has some greats niche titles. Which is why i love it
It is absolutely ridiculous that Netflix isn't on the PSTV. Netflix alone would be a sale booster.