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Nintendo Still Against Releasing Franchises Annually

Though many franchises such as Call of Duty and Assassins' Creed release annually, Nintendo is against releasing their existing franchises annually. For example Fils-Aime says Mario Kart gets one iteration for each Nintendo console.

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thehobbyist3328d ago

Shareholders, mostly. Look up the excerpts from their shareholders meetings. Reading what these people say I can tell you that they'd probably love the idea of annualized releases.

wonderfulmonkeyman3327d ago (Edited 3327d ago )

Oh lord, the horror of shareholders.
I remember this one excerpt of a meeting with them and Nintendo that I read.

One of these bean-counting jack-offs wanted Nintendo to put Mario on mobile so that they could Micro-transaction people.
How?
They wanted to make people pay for the ability to GET HIM TO JUMP HIGHER.

That's the kind of person that "industry professionals" like Micheal Pachter are saying Nintendo would be smart to cater to for the sake of profits.

I mean, seriously.
That's a whole new grade of dumb.
Not even Bowser would attempt a plan that poorly thought-out.

Canary3328d ago

Godmars290... I've seen you posting on N4G for years. You know -exactly- what kind of people are asking.

GCO Gamer3328d ago

They release Mario almost every year.

Relientk773328d ago

2007 - Mario Party 8, Mario Strikers Charged, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
2008 - Mario Kart Wii, Mario Super Sluggers
2009 - New Super Mario Bros. Wii, New Play Control! Mario Power Tennis, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
2010 - Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Sports Mix, Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition
2011 - Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games, Mario Kart 7,
Super Mario 3D Land
2012 - Mario Party 9, New Super Mario Bros. U, Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games
2013 - Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games, Super Mario 3D World
2014 - Mario Kart 8, NES Remix Pack, NES Remix 2
2015 - Mario Maker, Mario Party 10, Mario Vs Donkey Kong: Trippin Stars

They actually release several Mario games every year, and have been for years

http://www.mariowiki.com/Li...

-Foxtrot3328d ago

Wow...lot of titles.

It might not be the same franchise annually but they Nintendo needs to realise they still rely on Mario far too much

I mean hell they were going to make Splatoon with Mario characters. What would be the point in that.

Blackleg-sanji3328d ago

...that's.. That's just unhealthy

TotalSynthesisX3328d ago

And yet their other franchises like Metroid, F-Zero, Star Fox, Earthbound, etc. hardly ever see the light of day anymore. Hell, I'm still shocked that a new Star Fox game is actually in development.

Ark_3328d ago

I don't get your point?
Same charakter, but very different games.

E.g.
Mario Kart 2008 / 2013
Mario Party 2007 / 2012 / 2015
Mario Bros 2009 / 2012
and so on.

It's 3-5 years in between - everything but annual.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3328d ago

NES Remix Pack, NES Remix 2 aren't Mario games

BigDuo3328d ago

... I think you've just missed the point completely.

marloc_x3328d ago

You know the difference..

shaw983328d ago (Edited 3328d ago )

Though there is a difference. They are of their own series. Each Mario game on that list are YEARS apart.

Mario kart 2008/2011/2014
Mario party 2007/2012/2015
New Super Mario 2009/2012
Mario sluggers 2008/NA
Mario Sports mix 2010/NA
3D Mario 2007/2010/2011/2014
Mario and Sonic: NO DEFENCE
Mario maker has never been done before
Mario v. DK Last one was made before the wii I believe

NES Remix is not a Mario game

You also put "Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games" Twice.

Although Mario is every year. Each genre is years apart.

LOL_WUT3328d ago

Yeah pretty much evident that they heavily rely on mario lets not forget the year of Luigi with New Super Luigi U and Dr. Luigi. :)

Big_Game_Hunters3327d ago

except those games are all different genres and only share the charater mario and NES remix isn't amario game. Games that are completely different genres but share characters releaseing anually can't really be considerd anually sequels in a franchise.

The only one i see with anua releases there is theolympic games, and that is mostly by sega.

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wonderfulmonkeyman3327d ago (Edited 3327d ago )

They're talking about entries in the main lines, not spin-offs featuring the same character.
You both know that, so why are you pretending otherwise?

smoothdude3328d ago

I find that Nintendo games hold their value over time. I guess this is due to the fact that we don't see yearly updates of any of their franchises. This is a good thing really...

admiralvic3328d ago

That has a lot more to do with Nintendo games maintaining their original or a high MSRP. Like Super Mario Bros. U is a launch title and you'll still have a difficult time finding it for <$50 new at a retail store outside of a promo like BXGY or a special coupon.

thehobbyist3328d ago

And that's why the second-hand market is a beautiful thing.

jakmckratos3328d ago

Lol....yeah not like Nintendo hasn't been releasing Mario, Zelda and Pokemon games sometimes multiple times a year for a while now....

All_Consoles3328d ago

Main zelda games are released about once every 5 years...
Main 3d mario and 2d mario games are released about every 2-3 years

Those are the games selling millions upon millions and pushing hardware sales, and those are the games fans want the most. They release the most well developed titles from new and old franchises. Splatoon, xenoblade x, bayonetta 2, Devils third, etc are all new or fairly new games

360ICE3328d ago

Pokémon is a good point, though! That's absolutely an annual franchise that sees incremental change from installment to installment.

One of my favorite franchises, but still annual.

@All_Consoles
Yeah, they're new games, but neither Bayonetta 2 (hint: "2") or Xenoblade are new franchises. I appreciate that they're doing something new with Splatoon, though. It's been ages since they actually developed a new franchise (discounting Wii Music/Play/Fit/Sports and Nintendoland).

BigDuo3328d ago

While it is true that Xenoblade X isn't a new franchise, it is a spiritual successor to the original Xenoblade. Monolith Soft is basically treating Xenoblade X as Square Enix generally treats Final Fantasy as a franchise.

wonderfulmonkeyman3327d ago (Edited 3327d ago )

Neither Pokemon nor Mario ever get annual releases of their main-line games.

Spin-offs of Mario franchise do not count as "Mario games".

Spin-offs are spin-offs.
Remakes are remakes.

Main games are main games.

Nintendo doesn't consider the first two to be the same as new entries to main games.

And Pokemon is Game Freak, meaning not entirely Nintendo's decision about how often they're released.

360ICE3327d ago

@wonderfulmonkeyman
I more or less agree with you on Pokémon (although, at what point did tons of spin-offs become less related to milking than making many fully fledged games?)

They Pokémon franchise is owned and operated by Nintendo. They can do what it what they want. They could give it to someone else than Game Freak, if they wanted, and here are the facts:

Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, release 2014
X and Y, 2013
Black 2 and White 2, 2012
Black and White, 2010
HeartGold and SoulSilver, 2009
Platinum, 2008

For seven years now, they've released games every year with only one break. Before that, they'd alternate between one year breaks and two year breaks. It's about as annual as it gets (they also, strictly speaking, release two games). Sure, some of the games are remakes, but does that really make it better?

360ICE3327d ago (Edited 3327d ago )

*More or less agree with you on Mario. Obviously I don't agree on Pokémon.

Looking back that comment had a lot of nonsensical mistakes. One day I'll start proofreading my own comments. One day.

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wonderfulmonkeyman3327d ago

Spin-offs are spin-offs.
Main games are main games.

Main games have never been annual on Nintendo systems.

Kevlar0093328d ago

Nintendo doesn't think of franchises like other people do. Mario Party is different than Mario Kart which is different than Mario Golf which is different than Mario platformer which is different than Mario Olympics. As long as the gameplay or concept is different from another game it's a different or new IP to them.

Sure they rely on Mario a ton, no disputing that. But they rarely produce the same series twice in a row. Theirbiggest stagnation is the 2D Mario series (I'm not a fan of the NEW series), but their other series get at least one or two new additions that adds an X factor. They still mix things up time to time and Mario is a proven seller, he's a stamp of approval.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10110d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref9d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde9d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19729d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville9d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21839d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos9d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai10d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref9d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan9d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0078d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197210d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref9d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde9d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19729d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19729d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier9d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto9d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21839d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto9d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman9d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts9d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts8d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic8d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel16d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8815d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing15d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS15d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder15d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218314d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.