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The Day I Saw Miyamoto's Darker Side

"If you think of Shigeru Miyamoto, you probably picture him with his familiar, infectious smile. However, behind the scenes, he can apparently be all business. At one E3, I saw a much different side to his personality."

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masterfox892d ago

"If you think of Shigeru Miyamoto, you probably picture him with his familiar, infectious smile." <--No I don't think of Mr. Miyamoto that way.

Years ago N64, SNES era was for me the best game producer, but now what I think of him, the person that is slowly killing Nintendo.

I mean really why he doesn't leave Nintendo ? doesn't he has enough millions ? just let Nintendo go dammit and stop screwing it!, I miss the Nintendo that was aimed for everyone and not just a bunch of brats!! :/

ReesesPuffs891d ago

You're joking right? If you have the misconception that their games are only centered around children, (or as you call them, brats) than it is very clear that you have hardly played any of their recent games.

DragonKnight891d ago

Let's be clear here. Games developed by Nintendo themselves are Family Friendly. All of them. If you're thinking of games like Bayonetta or Hyrule Warriors, they didn't develop those games.

So yes, Nintendo's games are centered around the family.

MSBAUSTX891d ago

@Dragonknight

Metroid and Legend of Zelda are not and never were intended to be childrens games. Just because a game can be played in front of a 5 year old without giving him nightmares does not make it a childs game.

Concertoine891d ago (Edited 891d ago )

I dont get the mentality either. How many kids have the patience and knowledge to beat Windwaker, the most kid-friendly zelda game in appearance? Hell, how many modern gamers are willing to embrace a game that doesnt mark everywhere you need to go on a map or put an arrow over your head. Without consulting a walkthrough anyway.

Also, how many kids can beat the new Donkey Kong games, which are brutally hard and throwbacks to the 90's?

Nintendo makes games for gamers, if you ask me. It is important to Nintendo that a new generation experiences their games, that's common sense to assure their longevity, but their games are just as hardcore as other modern games, and even more so in some aspects.

DragonKnight891d ago

@MSBAUSTX: They most certainly were. First Metroid game I played was on the NES, I was a kid. Same with Zelda. And I'm not the only one. Millions were the same and millions are still the same now.

@Concertoine: "How many kids have the patience and knowledge to beat Windwaker, the most kid-friendly zelda game in appearance?"

Several thousands. Just because the game seemed hard to you doesn't mean anything. My niece was playing Twilight Princess when she was 8.

"Also, how many kids can beat the new Donkey Kong games, which are brutally hard and throwbacks to the 90's?"

Same answer as above. You must have a very very low threshold for what "difficult" is.

"but their games are just as hardcore as other modern games, and even more so in some aspects."

Even more so? Right.

Concertoine891d ago (Edited 891d ago )

@DragonKnight

Several thousands XD. What? Where did you even get that number? Even if that was true, that's less than 1% of the millions that bought it. The game didn't seem hard to me at all. I only played the game recently. I found myself impatient at being tasked with finding all the triforce pieces without even a hint of where to go. I was tempted to look them up when i realized how my spirit of adventure had really waned with modern games pointing me everywhere.

Do you even have a wii u dude? Have you even 100%'d DKCTF like i did? Have you even PLAYED those games? Get out of here if you're just talking out your a**. Because the last few DK games are no damn joke, and anyone on here who's played them can vouch.

"Even more so? Right."

I stand by my statement. Metroid Prime is one of the most hardcore games out there. No hand holding, no tutorials, everything left to the player to figure out. That's more than i can say when today's games start off by telling you "Use LS to move forward!" Super Smash Bros Melee is also one of the most hardcore fighters ever made, requiring damn near StarCraft levels of inputs to play on a competitive level.

DragonKnight891d ago

@Concertoine: This is where you're making a key mistake. You are assuming that everyone plays games with the same intent that you do, thus your intentions are hardcore and anything less isn't. One doesn't have to 100% DKCTF to play it, nor even to have that game marketed towards them.

As a core gamer, you obviously started gaming when you were a child. Games are becoming progressively easier and the only way to determine that fact is to play today's games and judge them based on the difficulty of games long past and noticing the difference in worthwhile challenge.

To sit there and say that kids don't play a game because, to you, it's hard negates the countless years kids have been playing hard games, including yourself.

Don't try to equate your own abilities as any kind of judgment on who plays what games.

Concertoine891d ago (Edited 891d ago )

@DragonKnight

It's a hard game regardless of whether or not you choose to 100% it. I beat it normally before i fully beat it, and it was still way harder than any game i've played recently besides the Souls games.

And see that's the thing, the DK games got harder since the 90's. I played the old ones as well, they're a piece of cake compared to the new ones. In fact they assume you played the originals by expecting you to perform an advanced maneuver from the first games, roll-jumping, which they never outright explain to you.

You also totally ignored my question. Have YOU played those games, at all? Or are you just wasting everyone's time here, which it certainly seems like considering you said the DK games were a "very, very low threshold for difficulty". Then you also ignored my examples of nintendo games that are arguably more hardcore than most modern games.

That's not my point, a lot of kids play their games. I'm just saying i doubt AS many kids have the patience to finish these games without consulting a walkthrough, since they've grown up with free access to that ability. I also see way more kids playing COD than zelda these days personally.

I'm not sure why you keep trying to belittle my ability to play games because i admitted to getting stuck ONCE in windwaker. Especially since you clearly haven't played the games i'm talking about, and don't even own the console they're on. Why are you here again...?

DragonKnight891d ago

@Concertoine: "It's a hard game regardless of whether or not you choose to 100% it."

Which is completely irrelevant to whether or not kids will play and enjoy it....

"And see that's the thing, the DK games got harder since the 90's...."

And? Again, irrelevant to the idea that Nintendo's games are meant for kids. Do you think kids are incompetent? It's been a proven fact for a long time that kids pick up games faster than adults do.

"You also totally ignored my question. Have YOU played those games, at all?.."

First of all, remove the idea of your own self-worth. Your question isn't something integral to any point. Second of all, of course I've played the games. My playing them doesn't remove the fact that Nintendo's games are made, marketed, and geared primarily to children. There are whole toy lines at Wal-Mart for that very reason. What you consider to be "hardcore" such as Metroid Prime is also irrelevant. If your entire basis is to point out 1 series as hardcore means Nintendo's entire company brand isn't geared towards children, you've failed. Nintendo will tell you themselves that they are a family company, not a core gamer company. Family is just another way of saying kids.

"That's not my point, a lot of kids play their games. I'm just saying i doubt AS many kids have the patience to finish these games without consulting a walkthrough, since they've grown up with free access to that ability. I also see way more kids playing COD than zelda these days personally."

Patience is another irrelevant point. Now you're trying to argue that Nintendo's games aren't geared towards kids because kids don't have patience? You haven't spent much time around kids when they game have you?

"I'm not sure why you keep trying to belittle my ability to play games because i admitted to getting stuck ONCE in windwaker. Especially since you clearly haven't played the games i'm talking about, and don't even own the console they're on. Why are you here again...?"

Oh look, someone who thinks they know me because they can't handle my argument. How original. And of course the "why are you here" question as always. I mean, it's not like I'm on a site about video games that allows for the ability to comment. No, I forgot I'm actually in a Nintendo fanboy echo chamber where Nintendo can do no wrong, make the most hardcore games ever, and flip the bird at kids every chance they get.

ChickeyCantor891d ago

"So yes, Nintendo's games are centered around the family."

"I miss the Nintendo that was aimed for everyone and not just a bunch of brats!! :/"

What?

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EliteGameKnight891d ago

Some people don't hold such a focus on money. I can't talk for Miyamoto, but it's very possible that he isn't still with Nintendo now'a'days to make more money. The man has created some of the most iconic characters in the world, one of which is more readily recognized than Mickey Mouse.

If you notice, Miyamoto is kinda retired. He makes games that he feels like making, which oftentimes are not even big name titles like Pikmin, and serves as a kind of advisor to those seeking his input.

FromTheAshes891d ago

"I mean really why he doesn't leave Nintendo ? doesn't he has enough millions ?"

Compared to Markus Persson, he doesn't have enough "millions" in my opinion given what he has contributed to gaming over the last 3 decades vs. a digital Lego block game.

DarXyde891d ago

It's called passion.

Not everyone concerns themselves with money over the finer things. His creations were always meant to be engaging and fun for everyone. He keeps with tradition and I don't see him at all as the one screwing Nintendo. If anything, that would probably have to be Iwata, but I respect him for taking responsibility for Nintendo's troubles.

jonrhoades87891d ago

It's not exactly fair to pin blame on just one individual, like Mr. Iwata.

Being a traditional Japanese company everything goes through a board of directors, so it's more akin to something like a council. Everyone must sign off or nothing is going to fly, even if Iwata wants it to. For example, it was Genyo Takeda who pushed for the more underspec'd hardware in the Wii U, delegating it to a "stagehand" and completely focusing on the gamepad.

When you look at some of their issues (which of course can be subjective) like being slow to adapt to online, lack of proper accounts, third party relations ect. It's due in part to having a board full of more conservative traditionalists, most which the Old guard from the NES/Super NES days.

Imalwaysright891d ago

Think of him as the reason why consoles exist today.

Realplaya891d ago

Dude are you drinking when you make comments. From 1979 look at the amount of Games he has developed and produced. Now look at the amount of revenue generated from each game add it up and tell me how he's killing Nintendo.

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Activemessiah892d ago

How did you expect him to react? he doesn't work for EA... bugs during a presentation is the last thing that needs to be shown.

knifefight891d ago

"OMG no one is allowed to have moments when they don't act like their usual selves!"

This article is based on a five-second moment when the author walked past Miyamoto in a hallway. Holy freaking STRETCH.

Matt Helgeson of GameInformer should be ashamed.

Ravenor891d ago

Stretch Armstrong man, he's Stretch Armstrong.

Lon3wolf891d ago

12/13 years ago to boot.

Kevlar009891d ago

He's just telling us a story. His title says "the day I saw Miyamoto's dark side", not "Miyamoto is actually an a**hole". I thought it was interesting to read, made me realize again there's a reason Miyamoto is so successful, he wants the best.

MasterCornholio891d ago

Miyamotos dark side?

That's when he gets mad and tosses barrels at you.

Lon3wolf891d ago

12/13 years ago, and it gets an article now?