It's always painful when you have to buy a whole new console to play games, especially if you've just gotten the last one recently, but could this move be as bad for business as it is for gamer's wallets?
I'm just happy I can experience the greatness that is Xenoblade Chronicles 3D in the way god intended: with two analog sticks.
If you want to call that tiny little thing a second analogue stick...it's more like a stick made for Ant Man.
Any stick made for Paul Rudd is OK with me.
It feels exactly like those mouse nubs on old laptops, for accuracy its not that great but for camera controls its perfectly fine.
You mean one analog stick and one cheesy little pencil eraser nub. Not "two analog sticks" at all. Leave it to Nintendo to come up with yet another half-assed "upgrade", they've done it many times in the past.
Atleat they have R2 L2, the vita hypes you up, by having FPS &3PS games, until you get them, and realize you can't play them.
Two sticks are much more important for FPS games. Looking and aiming you know.
@telekineticmantis. Have ya played killzone or something like destiny in remote play on vita? no? because the thing work very well, Psvita shoulder and touch do a good job, and the back is tricky, but ya can get used to it.
@BitbyDeath Pretty much, the only FPS on the 3DS I've seen is Moon Chronicles which is a Eshop game.
If the was a new Vita that was powerful enough to play all PS3 games ( not stream), the media and everyone would be all over it. More hating on Nintendo just to bash Nintendo. The Nub is fine...it works really well actually, but it's from a time when most people were actually smart.....the 90's. At 12 years old I could figure out how to use dated and lesser nubs, and you people NOW, can't figure out how to use a nub that is obviously more technologically advanced than something from the 90's ? You can't figure out what a 12 year old from the 90's could ? Wow.....
I remember using nubs pre-trackpads too. Laptops had either trackballs, nubs or both. That was a really weird blast from the past. :D
lol @ people being smart in the 90's.:) Anyhow, those nubs were actually quite good for moving the mouse around. I actually like them better than the touch pads used nowadays for precision, but find the touchpads much more functional and versatile. Anyhow, for anyone wondering, who's never used a nub, just glide the finger over it, no pressing needed. They're quite sensitive and accurate.
Wow i didn't know about the exclusivity. Pretty bummed about that.
there only one game
Why, the only reason Xeno 3D can be played on the N3DS is because its more powerful. How dare Nintendo give us better experiences because the 3ds was maxed out.
This is one of the (smaller) reasons why I stopped buying Nintendo hardware years ago.
What? Because Nintendo gives out a single old wii game as a exclusive to the new 3ds system? "why I stopped buying Nintendo hardware years ago." I can't recall them doing something like this before so would you care to elaborate?
Dude you gotta admit, Nintendo games are so fcking amazing, on the other hand Nintendo management is some of the worst i've seen in this industry
I'll admit that I don't support them giving out five different versions of the 3ds (also the ordinary DS) and also making game(s) exclusive to one. But I also did not support Sony for making all those different PSPs and also excluding a bunch of games for the PSP Go. But I don't get Hoffmann's point is all.
All those different PSP's? Wasn't it just the PSP GO and the original PSP with some hardware revisions? AFAIK the only major feature that changed on the regular PSP was they added a TV out, which didn't effect games. Everything else was mostly cosmetic. Otherwise, I don't support making a new console in the same line as what is currently out. It divides the user base, and the older versions tend to get phased out by the manufacturer as they'd prefer to push new hardware. Sega did this a lot with add on products, and it never gained support, and eventually led to Sega having to lead the console business. Nintendo should have just gone all the way and released a new console with backwards compatibility.
Like I wrote, it is only one of the smaller reasons. Hardware which is a gen behind the competition, the shrinking third party games support, controllers I don't like to buy , stuff like gba games on wii U but not the 3ds are a few other reasons. And last but not least, there are not many Nintendo games I care about anymore and don't want to buy a hardware for only 5-10 games
People act like every new game is new 3ds exclusive. It's only Xenoblade Chronicles because the original couldn't handle it. Only one game.
All of it depends how many more will be exclusives to the new system, i don't see Xenoblades as a big issue since it's also available on the Wii/Wii-U but if games from their core series or new AAA Ip's ended up being exclusive then that's a big issue. Considering the install base of the current 3DS i can't see them doing that though, the DSi had 5 exclusives i think which i can't even name lol.
I'd wait until new 3DS sales figures roll in before people right Nintendo off (yet again, for the 9473273th time). Majority of people i know have already upgraded, my self included. With trade in deals, it's not too bad of a price point for what is a decent system. I can see why people would be fussed though.
I agree with this article, that just seems like a waste of money
If they're putting out new hardware why not use it? If I paid for the new system I want new games that utilize it. If you don't want to upgrade then don't. Don't complain about it when they stop making games for PS3 and Xbox 360
I want one because I enjoy the 3d effect. Now that it actually works, I'll be able to use it. With a 2nd control nub and faster processor, I think it will enhance my gaming experience on 3ds. Can't afford one yet though. Wanted the zelda one, they are going for like $400-$500 bucks on ebay. OUCH
That is always a risk everyone takes when buying any technology. New products will come out to replace it sooner or later. And if you wait to buy something, you have that much less time before something new comes along.
I would only play this on a Wii, Wii U eshop, or emulated on PC at 1080p/60fps. I really don't care for action-oriented games on 3ds, they feel sluggish
So basically if you want to play any future 3DS games you will have to buy the new model. Way to go Nintendo, giving the big middle finger to all the people who already own the original 3DS/XL. Wonder if the new one includes a charger as well, probably not.
They did it to try and shift the new hardware. Let's not make any excuses here trying to defend Nintendo.
I will catch them on the "next" New HD 3DS. This is more like a 3DS 1/2 "The Cash Grab". Need true HD, at least in line with an original iPhone, and a better 2nd stick, maybe next time.
I find complaining about this to be just about as hypocritical as someone complaining about someone making games exclusive to PS4 or XBOne, due to their higher power, when the PS360 are still capable of handling masterpieces like TLOU and Gears of War. Yeah, the gap comparison between the 3DS and N3DS isn't as wide as the PS360 to their successors, but it's STILL big enough that some games cannot fit on the older models. Which is, quite literally, the exact same case for some PS4 and XBOne games; they wouldn't fit on older hardware. I think the big reason people are actually complaining about this, is because Nintendo made the poor choice of not further differentiating the N3DS by using a better name for it, and because the release window for it feels like it came too soon. The name doesn't clearly spell out, for these people, that it's a more powerful system than its predecessor that can handle things the old one couldn't, so everyone's viewing it as a case of "Why make exclusives for it when the old one isn't that old, and can do things just fine, too?" as a knee-jerk reaction. Personally, I don't mind that there's going to be exclusives for it, because I'm sure Nintendo isn't going to drop support for games on the old 3DS for at least another 2 to 3 years, during which time there's still going to be a LOT of really great games for it coming out.[Forbidden Magna's due this spring, for instance] By that time, I think people will be READY to move on to the N3DS in larger numbers. Or, at least, more-so than they apparently are now, if the number of downvotes on this page are any indication.
Nintendo shouldn't have half-assed their new gen of portables then. Very slight upgrades that fracture the install base are not good for the millions of people that have already brought the older hardware, particularly within the last couple years. It's not like people were buying the 3DS near the end of it's expected life cycle, nor was there a lot of lead time for people to realize that the 3DS processors were being upgraded. The fact that it's only been a few years since the 3DS released, it is kind of a slap in the face, and not hypocritical at all to be annoyed by it. This upgrade is a bit more than slapping a bigger screen or adding more internal storage, it's a stronger processor and a new control scheme. That is basically a new system, even if it is just a souped up 3DS. Early in X1's life, there were some people that said, "MS should upgrade the GPU or CPU in the X1", I guess so it could compete with the PS4. They were told why that was not a good idea for a console, or the early adopters because it fractures the user base, or makes more work for the devs. This is no different, except that Nintendo isn't getting criticized heavily for it. The system will sell well I'm sure, it's a Nintendo portable after all. I may get one while trade in value for the 3DS is still high, since there is no practical reason to keep the older version. I don't expect Nintendo to support the original 3DS/XL much longer, as they tend to move on pretty quickly when they make new hardware, and having just brought a 3DS last year, it kind of pisses me off that it's already going to be phased out so Nintendo can push new hardware despite the fact that last year they released both a 2DS and 3DS with no indication they wanted to upgrade the actual internals to more powerful hardware.
Wait... Nintendo is putting out new hardware with exclusive games on that hardware?! They've never done that before! (Sarcasm... since someone always asks!)
They're only bad for business if they're not good enough to sell you on the system.
For people comparing it to companies releasing new systems, are you saying that if when sony and microsoft both release SLIM versions of their systems there were games that could only be played on the SLIM consoles and not the original ones, you wouldn't be upset?
But scalpers are great though right? No man. Nintendo is trying to sell hardware and they are making a very rare game available. This is worth it.
Im sure there will be plenty of people who accidentally get NEW 3DS software as a gift as well as casuals who dont know that it doesnt work on reg editions.. This is going to cause confusion for SOME not everyone.. Nintendo must not be planning on releasing a next gen handheld for quite some time if they upgraded the CPU in this thing.. We will see but i think it was a bad move to make core fans rebuy the system just for a handful of titles that will work on it.. Remember the N64 expansion pack? That wasnt even a whole new system yet only like 4 games used it..
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