Microsoft has lost another of its classic trademarks, Voodoo Vince.
get it back ms please, this game was so much fun back in the day
They still own the franchise; MS just can't develop and sell another Voodoo Vince game until the trademark is renewed.
if lets say Sony picks up the trademark they could make a game
That's actually not true. Microsoft is just as free to develop and sell another Voodoo Vince as they ever were. The only difference now is that the TM (trademark) doesn't currently have the same protections from use by others that it once did. That's all this means. A lot of people don't realize or understand that a TM exists as soon as you create it - not just when it is officially registered. If I started selling cupcakes down the street and called them something like, say, "Naga's Cupcakes," that's my trademark. If someone then came along and, in an effort to capitalize on my name (my mark of trade) began selling their own cupcakes as "Naga's Cupcakes," I could sue them for trademark infringement. Even though I never officially registered it with the government. The main reason people register trademarks is simply to secure their rights against those of others and drastically reduce the likelihood or length of litigation that would result from a conflict. In short, it just makes life easier. So with that said, the story that this article is making out to be a big deal is really not that important. MS could come out with a Voodoo Vince game tomorrow, and it would be their trademark all over again. And in the meantime, it's not like Sony or anyone else could somehow develop the next Voodoo Vince game, because that's someone else's intellectual property. An IP, regardless of trademark or registration, belongs to the one who develops it (or the people to whom they sell the IP rights). The worst thing that could happen right now is someone could come out with a completely unrelated cartoon show that had a character named Voodoo Vince. TL;DR - Losing an official trademark registration doesn't mean nearly what people think it means. It's not a big deal.
Naga the article even mentioned how if someone else picked up the trademark they could make a new game
@ snarls2000 If the author had some measure of legal training comparable to what I have had in law school, I might second-guess my knowledge and consider recanting my comment. However, it's Dualshockers - not a legal journal. They don't know what they're talking about with this.
Really?? They aren't gonna touch a game like this that will probably sell less than 100k copies. We live in the age of the AA only indie devs can now create games that sell less than 1 million without it being a failure. It's why games like this are easily dropped and why we don't see other cult titles renewed by either Sony or MS.
So you're considering Forza Horizon 2 and Sunset overdrive failures, because they havent reached 1 million copies sold... Hell i wont even mention project spark with less than 100k. MS is supporting these games, and all three of them are great. Its not MS or devs fault that the community suck and they only care about pew pew pew murica
DualShocker continues to report on all things negative for the XBox One. This story isn't even relevant right now. How many gamers even remember Voodoo Vince? I never bought that game and it was on the original XBox. M$ went another who generation not thinking about Voodoo Vince, so why is this news? I would be more disappointed if it was PGR, MechAssault or Rallisport Challenge, which were more popular games. This just seems like more click bait. There was news about Quantum Break releasing in June this year. Where is that news on DualShocker? That's more relevant then this crap.
I agree with some of the title you mention. Mostly PGR I think i would break down and buy my Xbo for that one. Well right now i might get it when Halo 5 comes out. But PGR would be insta buy for me.
Dual Shockers is a clickbait site. They write (and title) in a manner that makes their articles seem more impacting to the industry than it actually is.
Well you know the Dualshocker fanbase eats this kind of stuff up. Really Anti MS over thar
Um, I don't normally partake in these types of discussions, but on this occasion I feel compelled to point out that the Xbox One isn't mentioned once in the article.
"M$ went another who generation not thinking about Voodoo Vince" Really now. https://twitter.com/majorne... "Why is this news?" Because it's something that happened, which happens to be the definition of "news." Whether a piece of news pleases you or not is really inconsequential to its relevance as news. Oh, and by the way. I checked out that "news" about Quantum Break. All I could find were rumors (which aren't "news") that stated absolutely no source or even an explanation, seemingly originating from this nearly delirious post http://www.crossmap.com/new... I'll pass, thank you.
You really have no business calling another site "delirious." Get some class.
This is not really a big deal, they still own the game, and it has been pretty stgnant in the meantime anyway. Maybe their intent in letting them run out is to draw interest from external devs to produce a game in the franchise. @abrieal "All I could find were rumors (which aren't "news") that stated absolutely no source" What hypocrisy coming from the guy who post articles about every "insider" comment from neogaf. To the point of personally insulting and banning users from your site when I pointed out how unprofessional, unreliable and unsavory Dodd's info was. Only to find out they were completely fabricated. Now rumors are suddenly terrible and "pass"worthy?
How is it negative?? Is it slating the xbox at all?? This affects it zero percent.. You need to grow up a bit.. This is news for those few people out there who maybe liked the first game who always wondered about a sequel. I mean if they didn't post it who would?? How would you know? No news is not always good news..
He's poking himself in the bum and the Crocodile man over there is feeling it. MS needs to get this game back!
Ironic, considering Phil Spencer considered his most memorable game/gaming moment to be from playing Voodoo Vince with his daughters...
That's fine and well. He has never mentioned making a sequel for the game. The Xbox 360 has been out for almost 10 years now and not even a peep about Voodoo Vince or MechAssault for that matter. We did hear something about Blinx, which was also a decent game. I myself actually enjoyed Mad Dash as it reminded me of a 3D version Mystic Marathon in some ways. Every XBox fan probably have their favorite exclusive from back then. I would hope Microsoft would bring back a couple of them. PGR should be a given. The developers of MechAssault were working on a new title, but it was going to be for the PC. Don't know if it was even completed though. There are still too many click bait articles out there.
The first Xbox had some of the most unique games I have ever played... Shame that originality doesn't equal good sales. RIP Voodoo Vince
Lol people dont even know what a TM Is!!! MS can still make the series they just got to hope nobody picks up the TM before they release another game. Even if somebody did get the TM MS still owns the ip, meaning they have to rename it otherwise the new TM owners can sue Its not a problem
There are five basic forms of intellectual property that can be protected: patents, copyrights, trademarks, mask works, and trade secrets. Each form of intellectual property has a unique function in helping individuals and businesses protect their business assets. There is no difference between "Trademark" and "Intellectual Property"(IP). A trademark is an IP. If Microsoft has to rename and redo all the assets involved with Voodoo Vince, that would be a new IP or trademark unrelated to Voodoo Vince. A spiritual successor would be legal, like Lords of The Fallen is to Dark Souls or Bloodborne is to Dark Souls; but it would be a separate filing for a separate trademark. Therefore, everything is lost when a trademark is lost to another person or firm. Just helping spread the truth amigo.
A TM Is not an ip. You need to read what happens when you lose a TM before spreading false info. As of right now anybody can use the voodoo vance in name only. Anything more than that your messing with MS Ip and they can sue. AS for patents,TM,copyrights there all for different concepts. TM was really for images and whatnot. Patents more for devices, copyrights were more word based. Over the years they have changed
@ Akissfromdaddy, I've studied rather extensively in law school, and Jetlian is absolutely right. This is the danger with just copying and pasting the substance of your comments from websites like http://www.basicpatents.com...
Intellectual property (IP) is a legal term that refers to creations of the mind. Examples of intellectual property include music, literature, and other artistic works; discoveries and inventions; and words, phrases, symbols, and designs. Under intellectual property laws, owners of intellectual property are granted certain exclusive rights. Some common types of intellectual property rights (IPR) are copyright, patents, and industrial design rights; and the rights that protect trademarks, trade dress, and in some jurisdictions trade secrets. Intellectual property rights are themselves a form of property, called intangible property. "A TM Is not an ip" It's okay to be mistaken, but just look it up. You have the internet. A vast, endless pit of information accessible to your finger tips. "A trademark is a recognizable sign, design or expression which distinguishes products or services of a particular trader from the similar products or services of other traders." Source #1: http://www.uspto.gov/tradem... Source#2: https://www.gov.uk/unaccept... Source#3: http://www.patentamt.de/eng... Example to help you understand your mistake: Imagine Valve losing the Half-Life trademark. Don't think about it,...read about it. That's why it's the term "Trademark infringement" and when that's lost, one's copyright mean nothing.
You are failing to comprehend (or articulate) the distinctions among "copyright", "trademark", and "intellectual property". As I said before, he is actually correct. Your rather scant sources do nothing to prove him wrong and only serve, through their production here by you, to illustrate your misunderstanding of the topic. While it always looks good to have sources, you can't just peruse the internet and cherry-pick snippets that appear to suit your argument and successfully understand the nuances of a field far more complex than you have considered. I could try to explain it to you, but I get the sense that you are more interested in having an argument than you are on being educated. If I'm mistaken about that, I can send you my 48-page outline from my Trademarks/Patents/Copyrights course in law school.
@Naga Understood. I now see it's precisely like how the Washington Redskin's loss of their trademark name because it was offensive to Native Americans and anyone could legally use the name and logo without the threat of lawsuit. Dan didn't lose his football team, just the right to exclusively use that name and logo. You're right.
Still own the IP , so they must create a new name big deal.
All things come to an end, I suppose. More interested in what Rare's got under their hat.
Hilarious doom and gloom headline. Voodoo Vince was never a classic.
Must be very slow day for Dualshockers daily MS negative report.
"Loses Another Classic Trademark" Classic? Sorry but this is the first I have heard of the game. I hardly call it a classic.
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