It looks like Microsoft has finally soft launched their highly anticipated DirectX 12 API. The API is already present on the Windows 10 platform (PC Gamers rejoice) and Xbox One could be getting an update shortly.
Well that was quick. I'll be glad when I hear from Developers how much it will improve Xbox One. I've heard not much to significant. I don't know what to believe.
You havent been looking in the right places.. DX12 will only affect DX12 made games so it might be till the holidays we see the impact. Cant wait..60fps gaming is near us!
Games developed for xbox one using the api will definitely have an effect. really cant wait to see what MS announces at the build conference.
Games won't suddenly be able to run at 60fps instead of 30fps just because of DirectX12. It's not going to have anywhere near that kind of impact, even on PC. Best to keep your expectations in check.
lol You should be hoping for 1080p first before even thinking about 60fps.
I dont see why it wouldnt be possible for them to do 1080p 60fps with DX12 games..i mean its only going to boost cpu performance even more by spreading the load..even if it doesnt reach 60fps.the least we can expect is a higher framerate in games than the other consoles version..That is if developers take advantage of the tools..Which i dont see why not when they have been using the PS4 GPU advantage with their games..#NOPARITYFOREITHERCONSO LE
@AutoCad because that would be a 100% improvement, I mean really (just talking about fps doubling here would be a even higher if res went up also) that's just insane to even think is possible.
@AutoCad: "I dont see why it wouldnt be possible for them to do 1080p 60fps with DX12 games..i mean its only going to boost cpu performance even more by spreading the load..even if it doesnt reach 60fps." Boosting CPU performance a bit is not going to do much for FPS. You guys are completely delusional.
yep, but when you have Unity, UR and Cryengine all supporting DX12 it pretty much means every game going forward will utilize it.
My comment must've touched a nerve. Lol, this website and mods are so lame.
http://www.gamepur.com/news... Sorry. It wont do much Spencer shot it down again... Like for the 5th time....
Basically Texture sets will get better looking and more transferable from the PC so graphics will look a little better. Framerate is likely to stay about the same. So resolutions likely will stay the same. When taxed beyond reason developers reduce the resolution so the game will run better. So a chance it could help with maybe solid 5-10 fps at most boast all around could be possible, but I wouldn't know. Other than that not a whole lot is going to change.
Dx12 won't do much of anything for Xbox. On pc the whole idea is to reduce cpu overhead, on console things are already setup for static hardware.
From the this news piece. Lets talk a bit about Xbox One now. Phil Spencer has made it clear in his tweets that Xbox One will be getting DX12, infact he claims that it will be getting not only DX12 but Feature Level 12_0 as well, something I find hard to believe since the feature level has yet to be finalized. Lot of odd stuff coming out lately Playstation fans will try to dismiss it but its been said by Microsoft x box 1 is getting full directx12. Misterx isn't Microsoft get real my Playstation friends. Redtechgaming found something interesting in the recent SDK LEAK the x box 1 GPU has 2 GCP's (graphic command processors) 1 is normal not 2 i can't honestly say what that means but something has been found i trust the source its not a misterx type of guy who spews lot of crap. Anyway it could end up being nothing but its interesting find by him. https://www.youtube.com/wat... We probably see a beta test in 2015 for directx12 people are already using the new windows 10 features . Anyone can use it now but you do it at your risk.
You're god damn boring, man! You're much worse than MrX, repeating shit over and over again.
I'll take you seriously if you can actually explain to us what level 12_0 is. Since you're out of bubbles you can PM me and I'll post it on your behalf in it's entirety. Keep in mind that I actually do know what Level 12_0 is, and why Xbox won't be seeing the full level 12_0. Tomorrow, if I don't hear from you, I'll post the reason why Xbox won't see the full level 12_0. :)
He doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. If he does, then he knows he's spreading bullsh*t. DirectX is an application interface. It works with APPLICATIONS/SOFTWARE, not hardware.
For some reason I think Forza 6 will be using DX12. Anyone else think they will?
i think so too. turn 10 always uses the best tech available. they had a demo of forza5 running on pc with dx12 last year so most likely forza6 will be running on xbox one using the same dx12 api.
I say we wait until Fable Legends, that is the first game to use DX12 and should be the first game released soon. I'm sure when it gets close to release MS will be more than giddy to start talking about all it can do because of DX12.
100% most definitely. They showed Forza 5 last year on the PC at the original DX12 conference. So they've had DX12 longer than probably anyone, except for 343. To be honest, the people I'm most excited to hear from, is Epic. Forza uses a proprietary engine, so does 343, so does Remedy and a bunch of other first party studios. So I want to hear from the guys at Unreal, since they aren't building hardware specific, they're essentially taking an agnostic approach to DX12. So I'm curious what they have to say, not just the guys who are building 1st party and have access to stuff most devs don't. In my opinion, Epic is the company that can showcase what MOST devs will see in regards to DX12 and that to me is most important. For all the talk about "exclusive this" and "exclusive that", the true test is 3rd party and how well they can build with it.
Looking forward to it.
MS has been great with these updates. Very Please that the system is evolving with software. DX12 will definitely be used for games later on this year like Forza 6 and Halo 5. Great time indeed
Hang on, before I get excited about this. Isn't WCCFTECH.COM the site that kept releasing all the fake stories last year & got in trouble for it? Also hasnt Microsoft themselves said it wont be ready nevermind released until end of this year into beginning of next year?? Seeing how it will only run on Windows 10 & to my knowledge there isnt even a release candidate yet. I may be totally off the mark but this all seems a little off to me...
Is this for a few selected Technical Preview users? Cuz I don't have it.
I'm wondering that myself. I can't find an official download link. It hasn't even been released completely for development purposes, so until software is actually released for it, there's not much reason to have it for the common user. Anyhow, any software that requires it would include a distribution version to install it, so you're not really missing out on much. Also, unless something has changed, DX12 is exclusive to Win10, and the only versions of that out there are for preview purposes, and not available to the general public., so again, you aren't missing much.
I booted up my Technical preview from 3 months ago, its true, it has DX12. Didn't even noticed it had it to be honest.
Is it something new in there now or did it come with the technical preview? My access to the dev kit is limited atm, and only just enough to learn the fundamentals of the new processes. I'm hoping we get a full dev kit soon though so i can try out some things I'm excited to try and implement.
i laugh at this, DX12 will also help Sony 1st party and the 3rd party developers who make the games for the console lol. your step forward just put sony a step forward..thus leaving you a step behind lol. #Fanboy Talk #SpeakingTheTruth #GreatnessAwaitsPS4 #HaveAGreatDay ^___^
I thought PS4 was OpenGL. Can you elaborate further, please?
DX12 will never be on ps4.
It doesn't need it. :I Like you said yourself the PS4 has an API that can function in a similar fashion as Direct X and that's to aid developers who are used to using Direct X instead of Open GL.
I haven't seen anything stating PS4 runs anything other than a modified version of DX11.2. The Xbox One has been running DX11.4 for quite some time and soon will be using DX12 along with Window10 PC. From my understanding, DirectX 12 is a Win10 exclusive. If you can post a link with additional information I would appreciate it.
Well this gives credence to PS4 Fanboys not know jack about DX12.
So does this mean that my Win 10 Technical Preview has DX12 implemented in it already? If it does, maybe I should do some FPS testing with games...
I have latest win10 tech preview installed, DXDiag reports dx12, framerate in the 20+ games I tested at the same as, or slower than, the exact same rig running win7 on dx11. All three cards in the system are confirmed to work with dx12, and have latest win10 supplied drivers installed. So much for that.
I'm fairly certain the games need to be written with DirectX 12 in order to benefit from the API. Releasing DirectX 12 on your PC doesn't make all of your games DirectX 12 compatible. They should still run with the API they were created with. DirectX 12 will have an impact on future released titles, not games already released. This isn't the same as GPU driver releases that show immediate improvements.
For the low level api functions sure but the cpu load balancing and optimization is a directx level change that effects all software, and does not need software to be specifically written for it, while cpu load is more even across the cores in testing, it clearly makes very little difference overall. And for xbox the difference will be even less, because the xbox one already uses low level api for gpu functions theres very little driver abstraction to begin with, peopld expecting future games to makw a collosal jump in res and framerates are in for dissapointment, and what werw going to see is clueless people tacking on the natural progression developers make with hardware in improving game performance as being "proof dx12 makes a difference" which is dumb because theres zero frame of reference. The only time you will see a legit change is if a developer releases a dx12 update for an existing game and i suspect most will avoid wasting money doing so because the improvement will be too small.
So xbone can finally make 1080p happen consistently? Who cares? I'm getting ready to go 4k. Microsoft dropped the ball and I'm no longer interested in Xbone at all and these little tricks aren't gonna get me to buy one. I will build a PC before I buy one. Why would you buy one when you can build a PC?
This isn't going to have any impact on any games already released. If you don't build the game from the ground up to use DX12, it's not going to work. And it won't have much impact on X cross platform titles in the future. I just don't see developers putting in the work for 1 console vs the other. But it supposedly does impact Fable, which is supposed to launch in June.
If DX12 is easier to work with the DX11 then yes Xplatform titles will make use of it on Xbox One. Believe me dev's are humans and if they can make something look prettier and do it for less money less time and less work well damn if they will use a older and inferior api.
How many DX12 «news» are we getting a day? Multiple answers: 2 - 3 4 - 8 10 - 20
There is alot of damage controlling all the DX12 news,if you guys weren't worried then why threat and cry over it,just enjoy your PS4 if you believe you have made the right purchase. What does it matter to you guys,especially if you plan never to buy a XBO.
The thing is IF dx12 does improve xbox one and it becomes much easier for DEVs to utilise the hardware, create much better textures constant fps, the fabled 1080p. If it helps that during comparisons that the xbox one is not only performing better but the graphics are of a higher standard than the PS4 then... Would you think less of your PS4??? If you have bought your PS4 just because on paper its 50% more powerful, touted as the most powerful console in the world,😉 and DX12 comes and rains on your parade,.. Would you think any less of Sony and your PS4?? Would you feel cheated? Just asking because IF Dx12 is a game changer, and power, graphics,resoloution, fps etc are the main reason you bought a PS4 then quite frankly where do you go to from there IF DX12 is the game changer. It's a valid question of what IF.....
DX12 for PC = Game changer DX12 for XBOX One = MS BS business
And you know this how? Because you said so..lol
When microsoft show Forza 5 at xbox 1 reveal its look incredible but when the game released = get downgrade and get 2d crowd thats way i dont trust Ms BS !
Anyone thinking that DX12 & Win10" won't have some larger effects on XB1 games aren't seeing the big picture. If you think Phil and M$ would tell you that big picture straight out, you're crazy. You have to ask yourself, "Why would M$ put Win10, DX12 & Cloud on the XB1 if it will have very little effect on their games and the system as a whole. What would be the point?" They got a customized AMD CPU for a reason. It'll be interesting to see some of their Win10/DX12 at the E3.
Can any one tell me why dx12 isn't coming to other versions of windows?
They want to rule the world with Windows 10, and keep watching us :O NSA and stuff in few words, Business
I've just read over at reddit that dx12 will be patched into xbox 1 I predict they will patch it into witcher 3 soon
This a very good, big deal. This is basically a virtual hardware upgrade. Good work MS.
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