Gareth at Skewed and Reviewed has posted an audio opinion piece asking if the lack of multiplayer in the pending The Order:1886 is a deal breaker for those undecided about purchasing the game at launch.
Do we really need another article on this? Not every game needs multiplayer. Why cant people just accept that? Sigh. Ask yourself was not including Multiplayer in games like Bioshock\Bioshock infinite Dead Space Wolfentstein The Evil Within Dishonored Batman Arkham Asylum Assassins Creed 2 Mass effect 1 and 2 Infact many of those games went downhill when multiplayer was added to them and other games had lackluster ones. Batman Arkham Origins Bioshock 2 Mass Effect 3 Dead Space 3 Assassins Creed after 2 Tomb Raider mp was seriously the worst tacked on multiplayer i have played. Now imagine if those resources would have went on making the single player experience better. Everything would have been different.
I think so as it continues to be a big question in the game and considering the person who did the article has actually played it on multiple instances, I think they would be best qualified to say that based on the way the solo play works, if the game is lacking or not.
No, I think the developers are best qualified to say what best for their game. And Ready at Dawn made some of the best PSP titles like God of war Chains of Olympus\Ghost Of Sparta and Daxter and they are also getting help from Sony Santa Monica so i am pretty sure this game will deliver. We should base our judgement after we play the game and see if it lacking or not. And why is it this gen linear single player experience are getting criticized so much? 2013 best games were The Last of Us and Bioshock Infinite and both were critically acclaimed for their beautiful stories so why didnt no one say Bioshock needed multiplayer? Why pour so much pressure on the PS4 exclusive? I know its because its exclusive but that is nonsense. I really hope RAD shut all those haters up.
Funny that you made this article and submitted it, but now you're acting like you're not that "someone" you're talking about. BTW having played a demo at some event doesn't give you the slightest idea as to how the full game will turn out. We still know virtually nothing about the story or how the gameplay changes when fighting half-breeds. Let's just wait and see how it is when the game releases then we'll all be able to offer our opinions.
You made the article lol so you know best? I played the game too and I guess this article is full of shit
How about this. If people want a MP game, then this game not having MP is probably a deal breaker. For the millions of people that buy TLOU, UC, GOW, etc upon their releases regardless of MP, I think it won't be a deal breaker at all. If people want MP with minimal story there's COD, TitanFall, Destiny, or hundreds of other options of repetative game play with little to no creative ideas for them to choose from. If they want a solid story driven game, good game play, and a stunning presentation to get away from it all for 12-15 hours, then they have this, or lots of other choices which have no MP and still do perfectly fine. Here's some good advice to you when you think on this question again. Keep in mind that last gen, less than half the install base on Xbox was paying for XBLG. Using that, we can infer that less than half the people that play games on console care about MP, and it's highly likely that people that like MP also still like SP games. On the PS4, go look at the MP trophies for any games with MP/SP games. You will notice that MP trophies typically come in less than 10% of people who have played the game, but the SP is usually 100%...although not always all the way through the SP campaign. Given those percentages, I've come to the conclusion that maybe it's the MP that hurts games, and not not having it. Publishers push it because they can push that extra stuff on people to get that less than 10% to pay more.
It continues to be a big question to a select group of people who have no other purpose than to trash the game and say the same complaints about it time and again. The FUD is strong with this one and these Xbox fanboys need to judge for themselves if they ever actually bother playing it.
Exactly. Not every game needs it.
I own consoles only for quality single player experiences, PC is where my multiplayer is. And quality TPS with great story/characters is what I desire the most now.
Exactly That's why high scoring games like Halo 1 through 4, all together in TMCC, don't need multiplayer to be an outstanding value. It's just a bonus that it's also some of the best multiplayer to accompany some of the best fps.
For Wolfenstein I would have liked a MP if it woukd have been basically an HD upgraded version of the Return to Castle Wolfenstein MP :) There is an idea, someone make a HD version of Return for Castle Wolfenstein :) As for The Order. The important part is that the story is well done and not that it has some tacked on MP. I don't like Coop in story campaigns for the most part, because either A) people keep talking on the mic or B) people always want me to skip cutscenes. I play story modes in my pace not the pace someone else wants me to play.
I've stated my stance on this. Why does everyone feel as though games with multiplayer inherently have more value? Since the rise of console multiplayer we've seen so many games wherein the single player mode (which is what gaming was built upon) relegated to what can almost be considered an add-on. Having both isn't always an added value. When did the roles reverse? The day that there's no longer a place for a well-crafted single player only game is the day that I no longer have a place in gaming.
The roles reversed because MP is an ongoing thing, and people who play it are more likely to purchase additional content. This makes MP an ongoing revenue stream, whereas story content just doesn't do as well except for the really big games. This is also why MP content generally comes out very soon after release when people are really into it, and likely to want fresh content.
Well that sums it up. Nothing to see here. Move along everyone.
Let it go please not every game needs MP. We should be praising publishers who are willing to publish single player only games in this day and age. Where Tacked on MP is normal thing just to put it on back of the box as one of the features Majority of the times me personally I don't even touch the MP.
I agree with all except for ME3. that was actually good. replace Mass effect with god of war ascension lol and DS3 co-op was better than DS2 competitive, but yes u made your point
Ok, I will clarify this one does based on the times I have played it as gameplay gets old and repetitive fast. I am still hoping it turns out well as I have been looking forward to this one. If you have 12+ hours of gameplay, I agree they do not all need it. but if you have 6-8 hours of gameplay and your charging $59.99 then I think it should be included and The Order lends itself well to a co-op experience.
So having multiplayer somehow changes the gameplay enough to keep it from becoming repetitive?
It gives you more value but if you think 60.00 is fine for 6-8 hours of gameplay thats ok.
Seems fine to me. I mean millions of people on a weekly basis, you included, would easily spend that on one trip to the movies. Hell at least if I spent $60 on the game I could play it as much as I want and even resell it. Soo. I mean I like multiplayer as much as the next but honestly most multiplayer is a bunch of random selfish trolling showoffs
See thats the problem with games nowadays. The lack of making a good campaign because they focus too much on multiplayer is ruining the single player experience. U need to understand that... 1. Nobody is forced to buy the game if they dont think it is worth the money. 2. U can always wait until its cheaper before buying it or buy it used for cheaper. 3. U can buy the game at launch & if you didnt like it, u can always trade it in and get credit to grab another game. This is why i dont buy digital copies because u cant trade back games. Its as simple as that.
I think a lot of people will be disappointed in this game. PSA.... save your money people and by Bloodborne instead.
I'm getting both myself. They're both games I'd like to play, no need to really pick and choose if you have the money.
How about you let those sold on the game buy what they want. I'm waiting until both are released to look at reviews and gameplay from the final product, and personally this game interests me more from what I've seen. PSA... There's this thing called capitalism, it let's these people called consumers buy what they want. I know, you're not the center of the universe, we're all extremely shocked /s I can save my money for whatever I damn well please.
^^^^^^^ Hahaha you think were capitalist. Try socialist Anyways. Definently picking up the order and bloodbourne when released.
Garethvk I think it will be closer to 12 to 15 hours tHan 6 to 8
He pulled 6 to 8 hours of gameplay out of his arse.
@"Is The Lack Of Multiplay In The Order:1886 A Dealbreaker?" Nope... Not at all. I bought TLOU Remastered and i've replayed it at least 20 times. Guess what... I've never played the multiplayer mode.
You should give the last of us mp a try it's not run and gun CoD mp it takes patience and teamwork actually pretty good and not tacked on but yeah not every game need multiplayer plenty of game are amazing without it
The difference is that The Last Of Us multi-player is actually superb and takes nothing away from the excellent single player. That's the mark of the fantastic developer and only a few can earn the hard money I earn. Naughty Dog is one of those teams.
Your missing out,my fav MP along with Gears,never played the game on PS3 as I never bought one,if I could time travel I would go back slap myself round the face and buy it on a PS3,I would of saved the campaign for PS4 (lucky I played it for first time on PS4)and I wouldnt have missed the best online MP for that time period.Seriously give it a go its addictive,fun,tense,rewarding and teamwork is key,the MP is beyond awesome
The MP in TLoU is actually very well done.
Tlou MP is awesome. Never felt such tension while playing a multiplayer game ever.
Rifhr but its there should you wish it.
Same here. Never tried the MP, but could play the SP over and over again. I'm just not a big MP fan. It's fine for fighting games, or racing games, but competative MP just doesn't excite. Don't mean to knock TLOU MP, I hear it's fantastic. I pushed through the ME3 MP, which was actually kind of fun for a while, just because it was the last trophy I needed to get the plat, but don't care to spend countless hours in MP to get a plat, and TLOU does have like 4 MP trophies which are time consuming.:( Generally, MP isn't something I look forward to in games, and by looking at trophy percentages on the PS4, it seems that most people feel the same way. The only ones that have any significant percentage for a SP/MP game are the ones that are like, "Play 1 MP map", or something equally easy. Those "Play 100 MP map" type ones come in closer to 10%, and to me that's a pretty low percentage of the player base. Games like this are built for the SP gamer. The MP is a bonus, and for people that like it, more power to them.
@ "Same here. Never tried the MP, but could play the SP over and over again. I'm just not a big MP fan. It's fine for fighting games, or racing games, but competative MP just doesn't excite." I completely agree. Now for a game like Street Fighter, multiplayer is an absolute must. I'm trying to get back into combo fighting form to get ready for SFV. I haven't played in years, but my invincible RYU, KEN, and Guile/Charlie are all going to make an epic comeback.
Uncharted did not have it and was Amazing
Correct, to this day it remains my favorite Uncharted when it comes to the story perspective, especially with the characters.
No it isn't.. you get what you pay for..
I have it coming day one and I am a MP gamer,will I keep it? If the story is as good as TLOUR then yes if not I will trade it like ISS.No MP or co-op is disappointing for a game like this that is perfect for both.Will it have longevity or a cult following? Probably not unless the second one has the complete package,I agree not every game needs online but this for me does badly
Agreed, unless they blow it out of the water it's a physical copy and trade in for me. If they nail it though I would like to see co-op of some sort in the sequel.
I would have loved a multiplayer for this game. But it isn't out of the realm of possibility for devs to add modes and other features for games these days. Maybe after release these guys could work on a multiplayer mode.
This game does not need multiplayer. It is meant to be single player and I see no need for them to just throw something together just to have it. They would have multiplayer if that is what they Envisioned. We have had a lot of games that were single player only that succeeded very very well
So you prefer playing alone fair enough,I love playing online competitively or with friends,for those who can play through a story over and over without dying of boredom I envy you I cannot,you pay for PS+ in order to play MP so if you are paying full retail price for a AAA exclusive and PS+ then you should be able to play online or co-op with friends,and I wouldn't want them to just throw something in half arsed like you put it,they have had plenty of time to make sure this game caters to all gamers,A 4 character 3rd person shooter with cover and shoot mechanics screams co-op and MP,not every game needs it but this game does period
Ahh, the media (specially western) and their BS biased articles. I guess there's nothing good to write/talk for them until next holidays so they feel the need to pick on the Sony's 1rst parties to try and take away a little bit of hype and attention as much as they can from the unstoppable train...smh... Don't worry, soon enough you'll have plenty to write about like the second coming of Jesus also known as DAH HOLOLOLENSSZZ..;)
Uncharted, shadow of the colossus, no no kuni, persona 4 golden, mass effect, legend of Zelda wind waker, grand theft auto San andreas, final fantasy 9, dark cloud, heavy rain, ICO. Some of the best games of all time don't have multiplayer, why all of a sudden does it have to be half assed into every game is beyond me.
Not a "dealbreaker" for playing it but one for buying it.....I just don't see any value in owning any single player game once ive played it , same with movies for me , never understood why people bought movies they have already seen.....to each his own.....can not wait to play it though ....I'll send back all my gameflys about a week in advance and I should get it day one from them.....
Last of us = 2014 goty. No need to say more. Have a solid story with good gameplay and graphics then no need for multiplayer. This isnt the stone age of gaming anymore, you can still experience playing along side friends in a party chat and share each others thoughts and give help, so its not like great campaign games keep you isolated.
I agree that the last of us didn't need multiplayer to be a good game. But the game has multiplayer and its extremely popular and onoy enhances the package. Multiplayer is fine as long as it improves the game and doesn't feel like a tacked on experience. By tacked on I mean multiplayer like Tomb Raiders for example.
Well rumors place the campaign at 10 hours which is quite good for a single player only game. As long as the game is extremely fun and has a great story it should be worth the sticker price. Quantum Break is a linear TPS but it doesn't contain any multiplayer at all. The same goes for it.
Site downvoted and disliked. Stupid question really. If anything we need more single player story driven games.
I have never seen a game so systematically targeted pre release...I don't know if its out of fear or what, but expect this to translate into reviews. There is some high level downplaying from the media. Constantly undercutting this game that has not even seen a full release.
Even articles telling people to not buy it. Seriously the amount of hate this game is getting is ridiculous. Its almost as if some people want it to fail for some reason. I dont mean to drag any conspiracy theory into this but I always had a feeling that the ones bashing it relentlessly are just salty fanboys jealous of the PS4s success.
I don't know man, 8-12 hours, linear, no PVP, No Co-op? No extras at all? I could understand if it was a game changing experience, but it sure doesn't look so. I mean I want it, but not for $60.
If people want their money worth then yes. I love single player games but games with 10-12 hour campaigns that are linear have no multiplayer no coop or really anything to make you want to replay it is not worth 60 dollars. This is why I think its so funny when people say multiplayer only games should not be 60 bucks. I get hundreds of hours out of a good multiplayer game with this i would get a max of 20 if I really liked it and played it again.
This is a new IP on a new console that is incredibly ambitious. [email protected] have obviously prioritised their vision of a SP experience to maintain their vision & quality. I personally believe a 2-4 person MP would have been excellent. But considering the sheer volume & quality of their work I can understand they have to be realistic on a release date. Hopefully the order 2 will offer some type of MP experience, but this is not a deal breaker in any way.
Doesn't matter, the sequel probably will. Gotta build that fan base first.
I feel they could possibly patch in a multiplayer later on, if enough people ask for it, and the game is a big success. Personally I dont care too much, looks amazing without, but a MP mode would certainly be a welcome addition
First of all RaD is a small studio and second this is their first atempt on consoles so yeah its really not a deal breaker for me.
Yes, but people will continue to say "not EVERY game needs multiplayer" as their excuse for defending the game until the 2nd game comes out and has multiplayer (just like Uncharted).
No, Multiplayer dilutes a lot of games in my opinion, and i think a lot of lazy developers are using multiplayer has the main selling point of their games because people suck it up through a straw no questions asked, it takes more effort to create an intriguing world of interesting characters and story than a multiplayer focused game that lets you pew pew your friends list, nah lets just stick multiplayer in their for all the frag fanatics, it's a worrying trend to be honest, i am an anti-social person at the best of times, gaming is an escape for me not a reminder of how much i hate society ;)
Last year there was a game with no Multiplayer or Co-Op and before release people said. "Don't buy this game, it's was going to be a bad game, not worth the money". Then it was released and people said WOW this is a great game 4-stars. The name of that game? Wolfenstein: The New Order I expect the same with The Order 1886.
Honestly I rarely buy a game because it may have multiplayer. I look for a strong single player experience. If I want MP, I look towards EQ2, PS2 or Titanfall. That's about all I need.
Multiplayer is usually a crappy afterthought in these types of games so I don't really care.
when will casuals stop crying about lack of mp alan wake only had sp & it was amazing
A third person cover shooter with unique weapons, refreshing graphics & intriguing characters. Hmm... sounds like Gears of War, which benefited greatly from it's MP. While every game doesn't need MP, The Order could've attracted many more by including one, especially given the amount of 360 users that converted this gen. Sony, for all their prowess in the gamersphere, have yet to create a compelling MP experience that rivals GeOW & Halo. An appreciation for SP doesn't mean you absolutely must alienate MP.
I want both the order and bloodborne.😉
Not at all. Co-op would be nice but a man never buys games for online MP. Online MP gets boring quick but a great story can be revisited time and again for unlimited hours of entertainment. A man goes back to visit his favorite linear stories at least once a year.
Nice try asshole! So I guess the next Zelda game needs multiplayer to be accepted? Wtf happened to this world? I don't want multiplayer in every single game. This is one of those games that is all about SP and that is NOT a bad thing!