One feature that Microsoft did not went into great detail during yesterday's Windows 10 event was cloud gaming.
Looking forward to seeing this in action , the new Crackdown uses the Cloudgine - I'm hoping for mass scale destruction like in that tech demo they showed.
Unfortunately that was a tech demo. Hopefully Microsoft will showcase on an actual game. The tech has promise, no doubt about that.
So we are back to cloud power i see. I'll believe it when I see it in action
We arent back to the power of the cloud, gamingbolt just made an assumption.. So using that tech demo has an example, you get 30fps using the power of the cloud with everything working perfectly without mentioning latency problems, then my connection goes down and im stuck with 8fps while playing crackdown? Yes, because internet connection arent stable even with my 100mb fiber i lose connection sometimes.
No, no you won't. You and the other Sony Trolls will find a reason to diss it. DX12 and Cloud will make possible some truly next gen game play - and you WANT it to FAIL because you own a PS4. If PS4 announced it was going to increase power by 2x, 3x, 10x etc... I would want it to succeed. The best thing is all of you Sony Trolls say prove it - but when someone says wait for reviews before you buy The Order, Bloodborn or No Man's Sky you hanging them for treason.
@Nekroo91 This is my biggest fear of cloud compute for graphics. Even PSN or XLIVE cant hold a friendslist together, can't stop a DDoS attack, you must have no delay in your side in milliseconds. Also have 100mb fiber and yes I have some delays on all my devices, even with ASUS Black Knight Router Is this the masked new DRM, you need solid internet connection to get the best graphics, unmasked by me?
@Douglord So anyone who's skeptical of MS' cloud computing claims are automatically a Sony troll? I have both consoles and I'm very much tired of hearing about "the power of the cloud." Stop talking about and start showing us. I think that's all anyone is saying.
It's always gamingbolt...
We already know this, please submit articles that have something to add.
And here it comes again.. http://i.imgur.com/hXKkyCJ....
I think the naysayers of the cloud have become more redundant and tiresome than any article talking about it.
The burden of proof isn't on the naysayers, it's on MS to prove it works like they claim. Watching a tech demo under their conditions only proves that it works under their conditions. So far the only game on XB1 using the cloud for AI elements is Titanfall and I wouldn't exactly use that as something to brag about. Edit: why use a don matrick gif? Using a tired reference that doesn't apply anymore doesn't prove anything. All it shows is ignorance. Sony fanboy here and it makes me disgusted that your gif has agrees.
Xbox one is gonna have some amazing games glad i picked x1 over ps4
In other news in the real world..... Ps4 owners will be playing... Blood Born The Order No Mans Sky SF5 Uncharted 4 New Media Molecule Game New Sm Game New Gran Turismo Wild Rime Planet side 2 and so many others and youll be playing..... Oh Yeah Halo 5 lol Quantum Break whenever that come sout in 2016 Smite lol Fable legends lol lol Yeah you def made the right choice troll lol The Cloud again? Boy these guys dont learn, if anything Sony has showed them how to really use the cloud to do things and they are surely copying in other places lol
Ori and the Blind Forest State of Decay ScreamRide Rise of the Tomb Raider Forza 6 Scalebound Phantom Dust...Why do you think we have nothing to play??
Just a little PSA for you; If you list a game and then put "lol" behind it, that doesn't mean anything. Especially when you consider you put it behind Halo, which is one of the best selling franchise of all time, then behind QB which is made by a studio that has never made a bad game, I mean they take forever to come out, but are always good. So if you think that you've taught those evil X1 fans a lesson you are sorely mistake. You also state "In other news in the real world..... Ps4 owners will be playing..." But all but 2 of those games have no release date. So you will be playing very little. I know this will fall on deaf ears but the truth is still the truth. Lastly you cant call someone a troll who makes a positive comment about the X1 ON an X1 article. Are you really that dense? @Spider he's not a real gamer he's a fanboy pure and simple. He will miss out on the amazing X1 exclusives just so he can put "lol" behind the titles.. While the rest of us who own both consoles get the best of both worlds.
At ease soldier, it's just gamingbolt trying to make something out of another job listing.
o god another Sony troll and a stupid list in an xbox article here at N4G. What are the odds? The mods, as always will do nothing about it, because of their obvious bias.
Well that's all opinions. I've got both systems but use my ps4 way more. It's faster and very straight forward. Even bought the gf one for Xmas.
I'm confused! Yesterday when showing both dx11 and dx12 running side by Side the dx12 was able to preform continuously unlike dx11. It reminded me of that crackdown demo which was apparently using cloud tech. My question is do any of think Crackdown 3 will be coming to pc? My other question is do any of you think cloud and dx12 sound like the exact same thing or are they truly different? Something tells me X1 will be taking full advantage of cloud tech but MS wants to show us something first. My question is for gamers not fanboy please.
The difference between cloud technology and directx12 with better resource spread is that cloud has practically infinite power, but has limitations due to latency i.e. cloud is best for tasks that takes huge amounts of calculations, but isn't "extremely" time sensitive whereas directx12 enables more power to be accessed simultaneously, but it's power is limited. However, that power is useful across the board! So, do you want massive power, but can only use it in some instances or do you want more power, but increase is in double digits? My answer, why not take both!? DX12 and cloud should be an amazing combination!!!
Well thanks for that answer. As a matter a fact I've never seen a reply like this on this site in quite some time. Bubbles up
It all sounds great MS...lets see some results then you can talk. I like my XB1 but I think MS likes to talk to much. Just do what your going to do and not promise us the moon and the stars and keep us waiting indefinitely for it all.
the things, they haven't said a peep about cloud since crackdown. it's journo's looking for article by checking job inquiries and linkedin. it makes you think ms is still talking, which hurts it's image. it's why it pisses me off, when people spew stuff to ms look bad.
that talk my friend is called promoting your product and selling your brand. demos have been shown and the tech has been talked into the ground. the product isn't finished (hence why it hasn't been fully released). so what more do you want from a product that's still in development? if there's any company that can pull this off, it's microsoft because the the intelligence within that company and the money that allows that innovation to even be possible. so just a little more patience is all any of us need (especially when it comes to something that's never been done before)
More show, less tell please! Nothing new here.
But doesn't that mean you have to have a constant reliable internet connection to play them?
Shocking. World of Warcraft has done alright over the last 10 years with that same condition though.
But that's an MMO, the whole point of those is the online interaction. By making a single player game have to be online to run properly or at all, that's DRM.
If a connection leads to a better game then I'm all for it. If it's just a sinister attempt to hurt the consumer then not so much Having said that, digital rights are going to be managed regardless. Abbreviating it to DRM doesn't make it any better or worse.
Sorry to tell you Sony is not capable of showing microsoft anything. Sony needs to learn from Microsoft,on how to think outside the box and create new things,I use to be a PS sheep.Microsoft swayed me because they are not. Afraid to innovate.And they come up with some cool ideas.just like bringing high def to consoles.
LMFAO Sony's shown the entire industry how console gaming is done, Microsoft copy, constantly, can't come up with anything original, yet Sony has, Microsoft copied umpteen times, made nothing innovative, if anybody's afraid to innovate and take risks it's Microsoft, thinking they can control the industry with stupid ideas like DRM, consoles that rely on "the Cloud", that doesn't work and has been proven that the internet isn't even reliable enough to support that and won't be for years, because that's the reality kid. LOL you XBox fans make me laugh!
@MrSec84 To be fair (and honest) MS hurt the xb1 launch with all their policies ( funny how quickly people forget 180-gate). They handed sony the lead on a golden platter with all the trimmings. MS focused on the wrong areas (kinect instead of spending that money on making superior gaming hardware at a lower cost, indie cluases etc.) MS were scoring own goals right up until launch. And I still didnt get one till Xmas 2014. That is not the same as sony beating MS because they are somehow "better" (they have done good with the console hardware and price but, the fact that I still only own two PS4 exclusives VS five on XB1. I have not even owned my XB1 for a full month yet.so that is simply not the case). If MS had the more powerful hardware, didnt go full retard over the DRM ( and that insulting comment from mattrick)were nicer with the indies and had a sub $399 price tag at launch, this console cycle would look very different now. It has been a whitewash because of MS arrogance, not sony simply doing a better job (which they have as far as pricing and hardware goes). "Microsoft copy, constantly, can't come up with anything original, yet Sony has, Microsoft copied umpteen times, made nothing innovative, if anybody's afraid to innovate and take risks it's Microsoft" Soooo much fail in this comment. Who do you think made online gaming popular on consoles? Who do you think think invests in tech like voice controlled cameras that can track finger and head movements? Who do you think was the first to offer a sub service on consoles? Who do you think put apps on console first? Who is augmenting AR into their OS, in a way that will change the way people like me, work productivity apps like music creation, art programs and industrial design? ( I work in music btw, so I know EXACTLY what kind of potential holo lens has in music production) hint...Its not sony. shit...Killzone exists because sony wanted their own "halo killer" So tell me again about this lack of innovation at MS. They are working on things over there that will actually change the way people work with computers, never mind gaming. "consoles that rely on "the Cloud", that doesn't work and has been proven that the internet isn't even reliable enough to support that and won't be for years" Somebody never saw the crackdown tech demo, obviously..funny you would diss the cloud yet probably praise sony's cloud based PSnow service.....I guess the internet is reliable enough for you then...right? Your whole post was poorly researched anti MS nonsense. If you are going to talk innovations and firsts, please do some research first. What is it with idiots on N4G? I dont even care what console you own. I have to call a spade a spade.
@Moldiver: So much fail here it's not even funny! MS announced after Sony, yet still did all of the DRM stuff, they made their bed and they should lie in it! Playstation is the name in console gaming, Sony showed last gen that they're for the gamer, by bringing the games and past generations have shown this, Microsoft on the other hand have always only done the bare minimum int he way of exclusives and used 3rd party as their main focus, constantly trying to win the living room, with a jack of all trades master of none approach and XBox One is no different to that, at least 360 was a capable machine compared to PS3, XBOG was another example of that, saying what ifs doesn't get you anywhere, because it's not real, it's a perhaps and we don't live in a world where you can get in a time machine and change things. Sony have beaten Microsoft this gen, because they're doing what they always do in bringing the games, only this gen they've added a level of humbleness and thought for the developer into their approach to making PS4 and it's paid off big time! As for your claims of innovation from MS, Augmented Reality is old hat, it's been in Vita, other handhelds before, Sony used camera tracking years ago, I think Nintendo even has too. MS didn't invent the internet, hell Dreamcast was the 1st proper console to feature online. As for Subscription, it's not innovative to monetize something that should have been free, you'll notice that Sony actually offered something for people that actually improves their gaming experience, by giving access to games that they may not otherwise play in PS+, that's innovative. All this AR stuff is just copying, copying from different sources of input to try and seem innovative. AR glasses aren't Microsoft's invention, they have been featured in countless Sci-Fi programs and the tech's been around for years. As for Cloud, what I said is fact, the Crackdown trailer was CG, not real time, the recent roller coster game shows how laggy it is and that it's not some great addition to a gaming experience, hell it's nothing that BF hasn't done before. It's not about being anti-MS, it's about being real and you xbox guys just lap up everything MS tells you, if they actually were innovative I would applaud them for their great additions to the industry, hell I've been gaming on Xbox since they started in this industry, along with other consoles since the 80's, but what I say is true, if you don't like it then ignore the comment, but at least bring something to the table if you're going to try to make an argument for my points.
" it's been in Vita, other handhelds before, Sony used camera tracking years ago, I think Nintendo even has too." And yet NONE of those devices are doing what holo lens proposes ( and has proven so far) "Sony have beaten Microsoft this gen, because they're doing what they always do in bringing the games" I can agree with that. But none of that is innovative. Its simply a case of listening to the customer.And whats innovative about bringing games? consoles have been doing that since um...forever? "MS didn't invent the internet, hell Dreamcast was the 1st proper console to feature online. " yay for hyperbolic conjecture! LMAO!! who said MS invented the internet? FYI I onwed a DC,And only a handful of games were playable online. There was no actual service there. making MS the first. "As for Subscription, it's not innovative to monetize something that should have been free" Way to twist my words to make a point you cant even stand on. It does not change the fact that XBL was the first online console service. What was the name of segas online service? It didnt have a name. Do you know why? because it didnt exist! But you would know that if you owned a DC.... "All this AR stuff is just copying, copying from different sources of input to try and seem innovative." same could be said of sonys VR headset, cam, PSN (whether you admit or not does not, it exists because of XBL. the truth dont give a damn about your opinion) and yes...AR on their VITA. And yet none of that changes the fact that hol lens is doing things that have not been done before. WHo is still using AR on VITA? Who is using it to do something that makes an actual contribution to the world outside of video games? again...not sony...so where is this innovation you speak of? "As for Cloud, what I said is fact, the Crackdown trailer was CG, not real time" See...this is where you show your ass....the demo was realtime. "As for Cloud, what I said is fact, the Crackdown trailer was CG, not real time" NO.What you said is NOT fact. When was the last time you ever seen a controllable CG demo. Because you would be the first... https://www.youtube.com/wat... See...this is why you should do your research BEFORE commenting. How can I take you seriously after telling a blatant lie? But this statement was pure comedy gold.. "AR glasses aren't Microsoft's invention, they have been featured in countless Sci-Fi programs and the tech's been around for years." Of course they did not invent. And its funny you would mention science fiction as MS have gotten the closest to THAT vision with this tech. Space travel was also sci fi once. Does that mean NASA copied sci fi? You are coo coo, man!
lol what about hi def who started that,alot of them things you say microsoft started but it leaked out sony caught wind and beat microsoft to the punch every sony forces microsoft to show what they are working on and what sony does is sit back a collect on there innovation peroid.and i will add yeah i dont care for playstation or anything it has to offer atleast micro put alot of thought in what they do just like drm,developers wanted it but you sony fans shut it down because sony dident think of it first or dident have the nuts to go on with it.but seeing what micro just announced i see the reason why the were going that route.its a shame some people dont know what is what.
oh and im not a kid i bet im older than you ive been gaming sence the atari,and before that what about you.have you ever played the smurfs on the coleco vision.
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