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PlayStation Network Update

PSBlog :

"The video game industry has been experiencing high levels of traffic designed to disrupt connectivity and online gameplay. Multiple networks, including PSN, have been affected over the last 48 hours. PSN engineers are working hard to restore full network access and online gameplay as quickly as possible."

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nicksetzer13406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

Still down for me. Hope they get it figured out, my friends and I have been down since christmas eve evening, with maybe 30 minutes of up time here and there.

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Summons753406d ago

Mines been fine all day. Yesterday it was fine too except between 8-10 then it was down but it was back up before 10:30. Christmas was the worst day, which is understandable considering how many people are getting new systems as gifts...typical Holiday.

SonyWarrior3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

this isnt typical... they were obviously hacked. They also prob had security conserns and shut down the server. They already admitted to a ddos attack but I bet theres more to the story then that since xbox live went online right after the attack ended yet ps4 psn still down days later with sony engineers working on it...

BattleAxe3406d ago

I haven't tried PSN today, but I was able to get online late lastnight, although none of my friends were online when I managed to login.

Live was back up and running yesterday, and today I've been playing Master Chief Collection co-op online for most of the afternoon. There are noticeable slow downs all throughout the Live service though.

Pogmathoin3405d ago

If Sony are seen to be struggling with this, they may find more attacks aimed at them.

Aleithian3406d ago

UK Daily Mail is reporting that 13,000 PSN accounts have been hacked and their information posted online, INCLUDING financial information. I can't even log in to change my details just in case...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...

Kayant3406d ago

Please stop spreading this. It's fake and old.

Aleithian3406d ago

@Kayant.

I'm not "spreading" this - this is the first time I've posted it. The story is from 8am EST, which isn't "old."

If the story is fake, say why so we all know. It would certainly put my mind at rest regarding my account information.

madmonkey013406d ago

actually 13000 accounts in total, including many other services not just psn.

jb2273406d ago

A DDoS attack wouldn't allow for hacking, unless the culprits were able to do so while DDoS'ing, in which case, I will be highly pissed. They claim this is all about sticking it to Sony & MS and making them beef up security for their consumer's benefit, but if they turn around and do exactly that, the only people they are hurting are the ones they are pretending to protect. It's one thing to knock down an online service, its something much worse to put up people's info, these kids need to be caught and paraded through the streets before I'd be willing to associate a card w/ my psn account ever again. People like that deserve whatever harsh treatment life has given them to make them utter trash. Hope they either learn from their mistakes in life or die miserably lonely.

Kingdomcome2473406d ago

I'm not from the U.K.,but I've heard that the Daily Mail is about as credible as a tabloid.

Kayant3406d ago

One Anonymous doesn't attack sites and leak info. That's not what they do and it's not their account.

Two the info is said to be old - http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
https://twitter.com/Mario_G...
And the link is dead now - https://ghostbin.com/paste/...

Ryan7413406d ago

Oh God, not again. This could finally sink PlayStation. #pray4sony #fortheprayers.

Nekroo913406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

Next time learn to read it, it says 13,000 accounts from xbox live, psn, amazon, dell, porn websites etc

Amazon
Walmart
PlayStation Network
Xbox Live
Twitch.tv
Origin.com
Hulu Plus
Dell
Brazzers
lKnowThatGirl
Mofos
DigitalPlayground
Wicked
Twistys
Fantyasyhd
Puremature
Tiny4k
MotherFuckerXxx
Playboy
CastingCouchX
BangBros
POVD
BabesNetwork
ArtisticAddiction
X-art
Shutterstock
Platinumclub.com
AprilJordan.com
DareDorm
PrettyPetites
NaughtyAmerica
PornAccess
RookieBabe
GFMembersPass
HungarianHoneys
PleaseBangMyWife

Here are the websites

Emrage3406d ago

@Nekroo91

That PleaseBangMyWife tho.

Inception3406d ago

You can read right? It says 13000 account not just PSN but also Xlive, Amazon, etc. And dailymail are popular with gossip and fake news. I better trust my cat rather than trusting any news from dailymail.

Kingdomcome2473406d ago

@Nekroo91- There are about to be a lot of married men in hot water lol.

christian hour3406d ago

"Daily Mail"

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You made a pigs ear, you made a mistake!

Honestly though, anytime someone outside the uk or ireland posts a link on here from the daily mail as a credible source, it's the most amusing chain of events ever, it's also the best thign ever because it reminds me of the Radiohead B-side, The Daily Mail, and then I get to listen to it again :D

Everyone, SING IT WITH ME!

"The moooOOOOONIES ARE UP! On the moooOOUntain, the lu-na-tics have taaaken ooover, the AASylum, waiting on the raaapture. Singing WEE-EE-EE-EE'RE HEEE-ERE, to keep you prices DOOOoown, Feeed you to the hooOOOunds, to the daaaily maaaail!"

Dee_913406d ago

aye let me get dat bangbros tho

feedthereaper3405d ago

Apparently most, if not all of those sites which were "hacked" were not even hacked, it was apparently malware that stole details from the owners computers.

It is also worth noting that they didn't just release 13K of passwords and credit card details, but also released a link to a free download of The Interview, which probably contains the same malware within it to then infect and eventually release even more passwords and credit card details in the future.

And I would also say that I live in the UK and The Daily Mail is a great source for getting a snippet of news, and very poor at actually giving you any relevant (or even truthful) information based on that snippet. The general feeling is that if there is something in The Daily Mail there is a small amount of truth to be had somewhere, but its best to go and research the true story from somewhere else because they take that snippet of truth and twist it in a way to put the fear of God into you for even breathing or to make companies/governments/celebrit ies look bad!

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madmonkey013406d ago

the best system for playing your games offline is to have the disc.

that said, my psvita and ps3 are working fine, ps4 is having some issues still

JackBNimble3406d ago

But what difference does a digital copy vs disc copy make ? I can still play all my digital games with out an internet connection, even ps+ games.

feedthereaper3405d ago

Wrong, the best system for playing games offline is a board game or card game, that way you are not even relying on electricity to enable you to enjoy hours of entertainment. :P

FanboyKilla3406d ago

Im so pissed. I should be grareful that my xbl is up, but everytime i see live up, i get even more pissed. I want that dragon age from the flash sale. By the time psn comes back it will be over. U mutha beeeeep!!

PSN = playstation notwork.

Im sorry sony fanboys, im just upset. No hard feelings eh?

NegativeCreep4273406d ago

Well if everything you said is true, shouldn't you be on Xbox LIVE playing something instead of being on here trolling PlayStation Network articles???

JackBNimble3406d ago

funny, today I bought and I am in the middle of downloading Shadow of Mordor off the PSN.

RjK311jR3406d ago

i am unable to do the sale via their website but I am able to login with my ps4 and redeem the psn card codes i got for xmas!! just an fyi for anyone trying it just worked for me!

BABY-JEDI3405d ago

Well done. That was TROLLtastic. You should be proud of yourself for spreading all your sunshine throughout the world
; )

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MSBAUSTX3406d ago

Mine was completely down from Christams eve morning through this morning. Full 48 hours. It came up earlier but only parts of it and then went down again. When it comes back up it is only for a few minutes at best. Xbox Live is working perfectly fine since last night.

Muzikguy3406d ago

This pretty much seals of for me. As much as I love to get online and play games win people all over the world, I'm not paying for Plus anymore. The people that have only been down for 3 days I'm happy for you. I was down the day before Christmas Eve last I checked and it might have even been before that. I can't believe out of 5 days off I haven't been able to get online ONCE! This is disgusting.

Seems like some people don't have problems as much? Hey, maybe it's just in my area?! He's in Wisconsin guys!!!

blackblades3406d ago

Sorry to hear that, mines been working all day and most of the day. Don't know about christmas I was out most of the day. Hopefully everything is back to normal next week, guess those lizards kept there word. Another thing you don't need online to play a game ,its not big of the deal.

zero_gamer3406d ago

My PS4 has been down since Christmas Eve as well. I've been playing SP and earned plenty of trophies on a few games during the downtime. Now waiting to sync everything to my PSN.

jc123406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

honest question, how come microsoft has been able to handle these attacks so much more effectively than sony? I mean Xbox had sporadic connectivity on xmas eve and xmas morning, but its long since been restored. PSN has been full on dead in the water since xmas eve, with little to no exceptions. It just seems like their infrastructure is much more vulnerable.

I havnt been able to sign in to PSN since Xmas Eve day.

extermin8or3406d ago

Mines been fine all day and everyone is know is online too now, hard luck.

Muzikguy3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

Holy sh!t I'm online!! Guy must have eaten too much Wisconsin cheese and had to hit the john....

PSN ID Muzikguy is on for the first time in 3 weeks!! O_O

Edit: all this time gave me a chance to finally play the single player portion of BF4. Not one of my favorites, but I had it since the release of the system!

360ICE3406d ago

Wooo! It's finally back for me. It's working well, too.

Seraphim3406d ago

mine went up about 4am last night. Got booted from Lego Marvel and lost over 250k studs. Woke up today out again. As of a few hours ago I was back on playing Destiny tho.

It's a shame these pricks who did this don't understand that it's hurting us more than Sony/MS.

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Applejack3406d ago

I still can't play any online games yet but I can sign in. At least fake Kaz can make me feel a little better and always make me laugh though!

https://twitter.com/KazHira...

GameSpawn3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

Only the store (via console) and digital games that connect to the store (Far Cry 4) are inaccessible for me right now.

Edit: Nvm Far Cry 4 seams to be working today (wasn't yesterday).

GarrusVakarian3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

It was fine earlier today, I played a couple of hours of GTA Online before going out, but I got home around 2 hours ago and it's down again. Wtf?

Nykamari3406d ago

I was playing Destiny, swap to GTA and no go!!! Now I'm wasting money in this damned casino

johndoe112113406d ago

ps3 network is working fine. It seems that it's only the ps4 network that is down again.

DefenderOfDoom23406d ago

PS3 , Psn is working, but can not play DESTINY because it can not download patch. Getting error code "BOAR".

LOL_WUT3406d ago

Haven't been able to sign in to PSN for the past two days. Yesterday I got a message saying it was under maintenance not even the PS app works.

Xbox Live services are limited but its core service is up and running there really shouldn't be an excuse as to why PSN is offline when it's a paid service. ;)

Mikelarry3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

Buhahaha I especially love this extract

"If you received a PlayStation console over the holidays and have been unable to log onto the network, know that this problem is temporary and is not caused by your game console"

As they know some gamers have been in outrage about how it must be the console and the xbox is not experiencing the same issues

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

Playstation Network is larger than Xbox Live FYI.

@Mikelarry

Larger networks have more servers. Larger networks have more problems. Networks that are connected to smartphones, tablets, and internet tv's are more vulnerable to DDoS attacks than a network that doesn't have remote play, or an app that lets you run your console when you're not at home. You see the problem with PSN isn't security or infrastructure, PSN just has a large number of access points unlike Xbox Live. Discuss what you know, not what you think you know, you'll appear less foolish that way.

Mikelarry3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

Ok what has that got to do with my comment. Some new gamers on different forums i have been on today have been blaming the console and me finding it funny that it seems sony are well aware of this that some might be blaming the box instead of the underlying issue

Edit

Again how does that relate to my comment, if there is someone appearing foolish its you.

Don't bother replying your comment is just making my headache worse

KingWookiee3406d ago

Always trying to find an excuse for Sony. Microsoft has 2 consoles on it plus anything Windows all running off the same servers, something happens to them and they are on it and fix it fast. Sony needs to do something about their servers.

KingWookiee3406d ago

And you talk about access points acting like Microsoft doesn't have a ton either... Surface, windows phones, Office 365, Outlook, and colleges that also uses outlook for their entire student body. There are more people accessing the Azure farm when compared to Sony. The fact that you think Sony has more people on its servers when compared to Microsoft is laughable and to quote you "Discuss what you know, not what you think you know, you'll appear less foolish that way."

MaximusTKG3406d ago

@KingWookiee

I don't think he is trying to defend Sony. He is simply stating that Sonys network has more actual access points.

WayneKerr3406d ago

@IGiveHugs2NakedWomen

You stupid Twat.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

@WayneKerr and No_Limit

*Playstation Network 110 million users*

Remote Play works with numerous smart devices that are themselves vulnerable access points.

*Xbox Live 48 million users*

"You stupid Twat."

I think you have me confused with that thing that gave birth to you.

@Cid33

Do you see the word Microsoft any where in this statement or do you see XBOX LIVE?

Cid333406d ago

Do you really believe that Sonys network is bigger then Microsoft???,,,, Really???? im an ps4 guy but im smart enough to know that Microsoft simply has better servers more experience and simply more people with experience in network security, ffs its Microsoft do you realize how big that company is? they make servers and firewalls

KingWookiee3406d ago

Those aren't active users... those are accounts created and those numbers were given back in 2013. Considering PSN was free on PS3 with no name changes, A LOT OF PEOPLE MADE NEW ACCOUNTS ALL THE TIME. You don't have actual facts to back up your claims to Sony's servers being under more stress than Microsoft's.

andibandit3405d ago

@IGiveHugs2NakedWomen

Your explanations of this situation are about as good as your constant defending of DriveClub and how it's the best game ever...

Worthless

b00mFargl33405d ago

PSN had more users a long time ago but that doesn't mean that it's all gaming related. A few years back Sony claimed they were bigger than xbox live but that number was skewed slightly due to it being the overall number of accounts made. If you go to their website and create an account they counted that as a user. So your argument that their network is bigger may be true to some degree but it isn't what it's made out to be. Taking the 360 into consideration. The xbox still has more gaming related logins to servers and let's be real PSN has always been kind of a shit show when it comes to being vulnerable to attack.

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Th4Freak3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

It's not like the PSN users doubles the XBL users...

Anyways this isn't justificable, this has been happening for years now and Sony hasn't still got any protection to avoid DDOS attacks like Verisign or Black Lotus and the platform is a mess in general...

---BELOW---

@IGiveHugs2NakedWomen First of all you may want to read my comment again because I said "avoid" DDOS attacks and not "stop", and second you have no proof that Sony is using Prolexic DDOS mitigation services, Sony is using Akamai services to PSN but you have no proof that they're also using Prolexic services, FYI Prolexic is a subsidiary company of Akamai they're not the same company and they don't offer the same services, that's like saying that because Playstation is a subsidiary of Sony every PS4 should be shipped with a Sony TV.

Now, in the hypothetical scenario that they're actually using Prolexic and their services are failing to what conclusion can you come? As I said before there are ways to avoid DDOS attacks, the problem is such services are very expensive when it comes to massive infraestructures like PSN, but if my memory isn't failing I remember that Sony said we would pay for online multiplayer because that money would be invested on improving the online platform, mind you, one year later...

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

@Th4Freak

"Anyways this isn't justificable, this has been happening for years now and Sony hasn't still got any protection to avoid DDOS attacks like Verisign or Black Lotus and the platform is a mess in general... "

Completely false. Sony uses a company that specializes in mitigating (limiting, shortening the duration of, NOT STOPPING) DDoS attacks.

http://www.prolexic.com/cam...

For those of you who still don't know what's involved in DDoS, stop posting comments and learn something about the topic before you make statements that make no sense. You can start by reading the information from the site in the link i've posted.

Xbox Live is not part of Azure or Microsoft's core network which works with windows and Playstation Network is larger and in more countries than Xbox Live, so please stop posting nonsense. I thank you in advance.

Edit:

Akamai press release from 2006.

http://www.akamai.com/html/...

No_Limit3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

@IGiveHugs,

"Xbox Live is not part of Azure or Microsoft's core network which works with windows and Playstation Network is larger and in more countries than Xbox Live, so please stop posting nonsense. I thank you in advance. "

LOL, please if you dont' know what you are talking about, please be quiet and don't spout out false information to the publicit.. will only hurt your already shaky reputation here on N4G.

This is from the official Microsoft site rearding XBL is indeed part of the Azure ecosystem.

http://www.microsoft.com/ca...
"The Microsoft Xbox team recently introduced the Xbox One, an all-in-one entertainment system that you can use to play games, watch TV, listen to music, and more. To give users enhanced access to their Xbox One DVR video game clips, the Xbox team uses Windows Azure—a cloud platform that supports multiple console formats, scales up or down instantaneously, enhances security, and is available 99.99 percent of the time."

The other good news is Azure is ever expanding and Australian gamers recently been treated with a brand new local XBL Azure server in their country.
http://www.totalxbox.com/82...
"Get ready for rock-solid multiplayer on your Xbox One, Australia, as local Azure data centres have opened up for games. Hurray!"

I bet the claim that the PS network is larger than the XBL network is all but debunked because Sony can only dream of having a server as big a Azure.

Caught another one..smh.

MSBAUSTX3406d ago

@Igivehugs2nakedwomen

If Sony is paying someone to protect against this and yet it still happens and takes them twice as long to rectify the issue, they need to fire whomever it is that is stealing their money.

Summons753406d ago

Sorry bud but Xbox was down on Christmas too and was on and off yesterday too. Same with the WiiU. Holidays = shaky online for all systems, happens every year.

Mikelarry3406d ago

Never said it wasnt

Are ppl actually reading my comment or just assuming this is dig at thier console of choice and disagreeing and trying to tell me xbox was also down

RjK311jR3406d ago

in theory... idk why im commenting here, but in theory arent the Azure servers so large, that if a DdoS attack were to occur, couldnt MS just migrate or route to other servers that arent being attacked or am i far fetched... im not computer wiz so be easy on me

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New data suggests PlayStation PC trophies are in the works

A recent trophy list published on the PlayStation Network contains hints that Sony is testing PlayStation PC trophies.

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XxSPIDEYxX193d ago

How sweet of Sony to slowly migrate their audience to PC.

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Sony Quietly Removed the Ability to Transfer Games from PS3 to Vita - PlayStation LifeStyle

Sony removed the ability to transfer games from PS3 to Vita, which unfortunately locks Vita players out of a lot of PS1 classics.

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ZeekQuattro701d ago

Sony really hates the Vita. Years later and they're still finding ways to snub owners of the device.

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Tacoboto701d ago (Edited 701d ago )

Sony really hates the players, demonstrated by an onslaught of anti-consumer moves - from PS+ Cloud Save restrictions, enforced DualSense on-console (despite input flexibility on Remote Play), no DLC Support for PS3 PS+ titles, upgrade fees on not just cross-gen titles but also now on their new PS+ service, to things like this.

Only Nintendo out-snubs Sony on treatment of their players.

King_Noctis701d ago

This I have to agree. Nintendo is the worst when it comes to consumer-friendly moves, and now Sony is coming so close.

Auron701d ago (Edited 701d ago )

Well atleast nintendo dont dictate/cherry pick what deserves censorship on 3rd party titles.

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Goozex700d ago

Ya ms has anti consumer moves like drm

persona4chie700d ago

I fully agree that Nintendo cares less about its fans and stuff, but can we look at each company for what they’re doing not others? Yeah I’m irritated at Nintendo for more or less ignoring drift, limited releases like Mario 3D all stars etc, but guess what when I’m mad at Sony for something I’m not going to keep bringing it up, it’s not going to change the fact that I still can’t transfer my ps1 games.

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Wrex369700d ago

Yeah unfortunately they gave it a decent start then just kind of relegated it to the bin. Really great handheld though and in its day was my favorite. Gravity Rush, Persona 4 golden, uncharted, tearaway, freedom unite monster hunter(psn downloaded psp version), and DRAGONS CROWN.. just to name a few.. such a good handheld I'd wish they'd try again man.

shinoff2183700d ago

Only indie devs helped keep it alive sony got some games made for it. Just most aaa devs didnt bother. That was the vitas downfall

darthv72701d ago

It seems like this was included in the most recent PS3 and Vita fw updates. So as long as i dont upgrade my systems... it should still work.

porkChop701d ago

What, why? I don't understand the point of this.

Inverno701d ago

People, jailbreak you Vita.

IanTH700d ago

Yeah, I'm not sure why Sony did this. It's one more thing to push people towards CFW, and then that's basically priming people to pirate. Why would they take away a feature? Why do companies continue to punish the loyal, paying customers? It boggles the mind.

flyinb11700d ago

This definitely pushed me to do it.

GoodGuy09701d ago

Just mod your vita and ps3 lol.

one2thr700d ago

This, Pokémon Inclement Emerald on PSVita🤯

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PlayStation Network Currently Generates Over $14 Billion In Sales

PlayStation Network currently generates over a staggering $14 billion in digital sales.

MastaMold704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

Yea with this type of revenue could people start to realize and drop the topic of "Sony needs a Game pass. "

TheGreatGazoo30704d ago

That is what all the smart business people are saying "subscription models are a fad."

Silly gameAr704d ago

@TheGreatGazoo

They also said PS Now was a failure. You think all that money is coming from sub models alone?

Bathyj704d ago

The only industry where people on the losing side think the leaders should follow the losers. Sony's clearly fine doing what they've been doing for 25 years. Selling games like the industry has always done.

Orchard704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

@Bathyj "Sony's clearly fine doing what they've been doing for 25 years. Selling games like the industry has always done."

Gotta future proof. I'm sure Blockbuster folk said the same thing about Netflix when it first came on the scene. Business models and consumer expectations change over time.

SullysCigar704d ago

^ sure Orchard, Blockbuster is one example. Another might be Netflix losing subscribers to the point they're changing their policy and threatening their customers.

Netflix started off as good value, then was amazing as the content was great as well as the price, but now it's expensive compared to it's peers and has lost a load of content to them. Original content is mostly crap now and I'm betting a significant crash in users is coming for them late this year.

My point being? Gamepass and anything Sony may do along those lines may well face the same fate. There's nothing wrong with diversification, but you have to focus on your main money maker and people are lapping up PlayStation traditional model - for good reason.

ABizzel1704d ago

They don't "need GamePass" for financials. They needed the revamp to ensure consumer engagement, loyalty, and market share didn't shift in favor of Xbox due to the potential short-term / long-term success of GamePass.

This is why we have the new PS+. They don't need a direct GamePass competitor, they simply needed an easy to get into and well-marketed subscription service that offers a library of games for the more casual consumer since the core fanbase actually buys games on PS.

Godmars290704d ago

Though, aren't they getting a Game Pass. Just that theirs wont include day one major releases.

MrNinosan704d ago

@Godmars290
They had it for years, way before Gamepass was a thing.

Obscure_Observer704d ago

"Yea with this type of revenue could people start to realize and drop the topic of "Sony needs a Game pass"

Well, whether Sony needs a "Game Pass" I can´t tell but, I´m certain they can´t allow themselves to stay idle and not react to Xbox´s recent advances either. According to Newzoo´s latest report, Microsoft´s year-on-year growth is +9,6% vs Sony -2,3% vs Nintendo +1,9%.

https://venturebeat.com/wp-...

Also once the Activision/Blizzard acquisition is completed, Xbox is expected to become the second biggest company in gaming, right behind Tecent.

https://venturebeat.com/wp-...

https://www.gamesindustry.b...

That´s why Sony´s future investments will be more focused on subscription services, GaaS, Multiplatform, PC and Mobile. There are also rumors of a PS Plus launcher for PC coming soon.

Die hard PS fans might hate the direction that Sony is apparently following under Yoshida (CEO) and Ryan by making PS games and services "less exclusive". But inteligent and reasonable PS fans knows that Sony must do what they have to do if they intent to survive trillion dollar companies like Apple, Google, Amazon and Microsoft while continue and deliver high quality game and services.

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RickRoland704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

“Gotta future proof. I'm sure Blockbuster folk said the same thing about Netflix when it first came on the scene. Business models and consumer expectations change over time.”

The difference here is overall convenience. You had to drive to the store and browse then purchase get a game/movie from them and drive home. You have free access from your house to browse and purchase on PS Network. If someone really wants a game and it is of quality and has great reviews they will buy it. Blockbuster lost to internet convenience, not pricing.

Over time subscription services get so large that the fees have to increase, making the value decrease…and as we have seen with sub services quality decreases also. Not everyone wants another monthly bill in their budget for 2-3 games a year they really want to play. A reliance on a sub service weens once you sift through the initial 3-6 months of library access. I know for myself that my gamepass subscription was much more amazing when I first got my series x than it is now 1 year later. At this point I’m just waiting for exclusives…which I wouldn’t mind purchasing without a monthly script because it’s a few games a year.

BehindTheRows704d ago

He knows that, he’s just on the “opposing view” because it’s PlayStation. If Xbox generated this much, and more than PlayStation, it’d be a whole different tune.

Truth is Sony has the winning model and should keep doing exactly what has won them generation(s).

1Victor704d ago

But but but I was told that PS3 was Sony last console and Microsoft was going to buy them.
I want my money back from those damn cheap pact of Gypsies predictions 🤷🏿

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neutralgamer1992704d ago

In fluffy's voice "DAMN"

PlayStation is universal brand. It sells in every country and the brand recognition is just on another level. I think it was like 2018 or 2019 when PlayStation generated more money than Xbox and Nintendo combined

MastaMold

Sony doesn't need GP because they have a huge library of games from their past generations that people can't wait to play again with trophy support. And they have been the best ever since launch of PS5. Game after game while as a Xbox series X owner I am playing the wait game. HFW, GT7, GOW, TOKYO Ghostwire and rumor has it TLOU remake will release this year too. While Ms have all the resources and not much AAA content

Hopefully 2023 is when Xbox can get on a steady schedule for releasing awesome games. Honestly this is the last straw if anything like this happens again than Phil has to and I do mean has to go. He can't be failing this badly with the amount of resources at his disposal

Aloymetal704d ago

''PlayStation is universal brand. It sells in every country and the brand recognition is just on another level. I think it was like 2018 or 2019 when PlayStation generated more money than Xbox and Nintendo combined''

You're absolutely right with both statements.!
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Eonjay704d ago

I would like to point out that even though is evident that Sony doesn't 'need' GP, they are going to profit very handsomely from their own subscription and they are going to do it without compromising the revenue they get from their first party releases.

Sony Nintendo and Microsoft have worked together to enrich each other. Sony took PSNow, rebranded it to be like GamePass with it's catalog of newer games and then added in Nintendo's retro service. They deserve credit for taking some great aspects of their competitor's programs and making it work for their business.

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Flawlessmic704d ago

Love to hear it, now keep giving us the usual AAA single player bangers, keep the gaas rubbish to a minimum.

thesoftware730704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

That's good money!

Playstation Network includes all digital purchases, DLC, MT, the monthly/ yearly fee, PSnow and any other paid service on the network.

120mill PS4 and 20 mill PS5, I'm not surprised.

Lol, why mention they don't need a GP service when they are actually doing a similar service come June. I would take that to mean they see more $$ coming from it.

I would surmises the other 2 systems generate in the billions for their digital services as well.

SullysCigar704d ago

"why mention they don't need a GP service"

Because they don't. It's called diversification. They're aiming to offer choices and the best of all worlds. To suggest they 'need' it, though, when they're taking profits like that would be plain wrong.

thesoftware730704d ago

Uh-huh, but who claimed they "needed" it?

Subscriptions services are what all gaming associated brands are doing, Amazon, Google, Nvidia, Ubisoft, EA, MS, Nintendo, Apple, and even Netflix.

Please stop with the "they are diversifying", spin nonsense. They all are, if you can purchase games in a multiple way on

thesoftware730704d ago

Uh-huh, but who claimed they "needed" it?

Subscription services are what all gaming associated brands are doing, Amazon, Google, Nvidia, Ubisoft, EA, MS, Nintendo, Apple, and even Netflix.

Please stop with the "they are diversifying", spin to make them sound different nonsense. They all are diversifying by definition, if you can purchase games and services in multiple ways on a platform then they are all giving diversifying options lol. Sony just like the rest of them sees money to be made.

You can buy, MS games on PC, Xbox, in a store, digitally or sub to GP...see diversifying. You can buy Nintendo games on Mobile, in a store, digitally or you can sub NSO..see diversifying. You can buy games, and 1000 different apps on IOS and android or you can sub and get them...diversifying. Sny is no different, their games selling well means nothing, Subs are industry standard and they are just now bolstering that specific dept. because GP and others popularity can't and shouldn't be ignored.

No need to make them sound like they are doing something special, they are simply moving in a well laid out direction as well.

****Sorry for the double post, had to tend to something***

SullysCigar704d ago

^ "Uh-huh, but who claimed they "needed" it?"

Well, you, when you said, "Lol, why mention they don't need a GP service", but it's no big deal.

By the same token, nowhere did I claim Sony is doing something different, nor did i employ spin. I'm sorry, I might not be the fight you're looking for. I'm just pointing out the situation, not comparing them to any other company.

GamingSinceForever704d ago

What Game Pass does is offer all 1st party and some 3rd party games day one. So no Sony doesn’t need to copy that. That is what was meant when people said that.

thesoftware730704d ago

The 14 billion is not from games alone, it is generated through ALL service sales and usage on the network, even movie streaming, HBO Max, Netflix, Spotify, 3rd party services in general, and yes the gaming division.

I get that it's making money, but the whole "no need for GP-like service", when they are indeed doing a GP-like service is pure worship and a pointless thing to say. Offering the 1st party games on day one has nothing to do with this, technically none of them have to do that, they just chose different directions with that one specific thing.

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GamingSinceForever704d ago

Sony doesn’t need a GP like service, but that isn’t to say one wouldn’t be nice to have.

Anyone with common sense would love to have the option of playing Playstation games on day one at a monthly cost, however Sony in their current position doesn’t need to go there because they are still making a nice profit selling games at full price.

So no it isn’t worship, it is just stating the facts. They feel that giving away their games would dilute the quality.

MrNinosan704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

They had PSNow for years, they're just rebranding and cleaning it a bit.

John_McClane704d ago

I wonder how much of the money generated comes from their movie company?

Deeeeznuuuts704d ago

Separate division of Sony, so none.

John_McClane703d ago

@DeeeezNuuuts They sell their movies on psn don't they?

P_Bomb703d ago

They stopped selling movies/tv on PSN a while back.

jBlakeeper704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

Because the service they are releasing isn’t meant to compete with GamePass.

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