GamerBolt: "Isn’t it great that we’ll soon be able to use the term ‘next gen’ once again?"
I don't think Microsoft has anything to worry about. Nintendo Lack game content.Hopefully they can cracked out more games by then b/c Hardware power isn't everything.
It is when your console is considered to be at least one gen behind the competition. And though the WiiU is considered to be "current gen", by specs it was designed to competite against the PS3 and 360, not the XO and PS4. As for content, Nintendo has Mario, Link, Metriod and Pokemon, as well as over twenty years of old IP to draw from. Whereas MS has Halo and Gears, which technically share the same genera, and anything from Rare, which they've pretty much ignored and let fester. Are getting back up to speed just this gen.
Its not the number of Ips Nintendo has under their belt that worries me, its whether Nintendo can crack out enough games in a timely manner. This is what hurt Nintendo's repetition in the past. The part where you said, "It is when your console is considered to be at least one gen behind the competition is true. But, Nintendo would have to satisfy all genre of game by themselves since they don't have the 3rd party support yet. Sure, twenty years of old IP to choose from, but if they can't get them out in time in the hands of wii U owners it won't matter.
nintendo will need a new gimmick like we saw with the wii for them to get back to the market in any real competitive way. they simply dont use the same resources in research and development like microsoft and sony do who are both willing to take initial losses on the hardware. nintendo is all about being profitable since all they do is gaming. a new gimmick that takes off is the only way third party developers will treat the new nintendo console seriously. otherwise its the same old same old of easy ports that ps4 and xbox one owners wont care about. that leaves the first party games to once again carry the load. they should also keep online gaming free and price it at $299.
I chuckled when I read the title.
I'm 50/50 on this, but I think It's too early for Nintendo to release another console. I'd hate to see the consoles following the trends of smart phones, being released too often. It would be great to see a powerful console put together by them, but this would speed up the generation and might not be practical for the new hardware and also money wise for Nintendo...it's their call.
probably new Nintendo console will vanish Xbone presence in Japan completely(if they will not disappear by themselves by the course of things)..as for Sony ,Ninty will be late at least 2 years , with Sony already established solid base at that time will be at their most sparky period with multiple games coming out for it..if Ninty did not apply their usual stealing tactic ,throw all the money at the best Japan made game of the period, will not see any difference from the current system......
@ moldybread "nintendo will need a new gimmick like we saw with the wii" NO they don't. They already tried to repeat the Wii's success with another gimmick, the "Gamepad", named their new console Wii U. IT DID NOT WORK. Casuals are like nomads. They go from one trend to the next and Nintendo already lost them.
Did this guy just say game content and lack of with Nintendo. Wow. My ps4 is dusty right now, no xb one till gears or something compelling drops, so guess which one is being used most...yes the wii U. Nineteen do clearly made a mistake with specs and that stupid name wii U/messaging but they do hve the best games currently and the quality shows as they don't beed game updates every month like Sony and MS. Also this new system won't be out for at least 3 years. The wii u will die an early death sadly but the other two will also be dropping new systems in the 5 year frame. A little early to speculate. The new handheld is coming in time for e3
My PS4 is dusty two, lol. But the drought in games is to be expected in the 1st year. The 1st year has always been a drought in game, so Its an obvious commonality. The 2nd year should be much better I think. Nintendo does have some quality games out for the wii U which is good. But the Wii U hardware will still lack variety in games. Personally speaking, I don't like every aaa Nintendo games spread out on a year to year basis. Hopefully, this isn't the case with Nintendo's next gen console b/c I want to play them all with in 2 years time frame. As for MS/Sony, I don't see them releasing their next gen console in 5 years b/c I think 5 years doesn't give most devs enough time to lean how to make games in an open world environment. they've got a lot to learn before they get the hang of it.
You Wii U also has 2 years under it's belt, while PS4 and XBO just have 1. Wii U didn't get momentum until late 2013, and is finally hitting it's stride post Mario Kart, with a great Fall line-up, early 2015 line-up, and holiday 2015 line-up. Meanwhile PS4 and XBO both have strong first party games that won't see the light of Day on Wii U such as Dragon Age, Far Cry, GTAV, Shadow of Modor, Destiny (greatness debatable), COD: AW, The Evil Within, EA Sports (if that's your thing), Alien, Dark Souls 2, Batman Arkham Knight, The Witcher, battlefield, and so many more. That's the point he was trying to make, not that the Wii U has no games. Buying a Wii U as a main platform means your giving up not only other console exclusives, but the majority of 3rd party support as well. The Wii U has the best exclusives currently, and it has the most (again 2 years), but 2015 might change quantity (PS4 has tons and tons of exclusives). The other point he was trying to make is Nintendo relies heavily on it's main series 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Mario Party, Mario Spin-off, Zelda, Smash, and then they dig into their chest of IP's and pull out what they feel like making that year, which is most often 2D platformers staring a different character. Nintendo doesn't have the benefit on letting 3rd parties carry other genres for them, and for huge FPS fans the Nintendo can never satisfy them, for huge Action Adventure fans Nintendo can never fully satisfy them, for huge RPG fans Nintendo can never really satisfy them (3DS can, Wii U No based on previous console), and that's the other point he was trying to make. Fans of a genre need more than 3 - 4 games per generation, they want 10+ which is what the PS4 / XBO can offer thanks to 3rd party support. Nintendo has this huge pool of IP's but they don't have the dev power / desire to pump out more games annually. Which again is why Nintendo is a hard sell to today's core gamer as a single platform owner. I think all of us who have a Wii without a doubt are enjoying it, because it has some great exclusives. But if I only had one console it would never be a Nintendo console until they get significantly better 3rd party support. The last part I completely agree with you on. Nintendo won't have a new console until 2016 at the earliest and even then it's 99% unlikely to happen then because they'll still be in the same space of being only slightly more powerful than the PS4 / XBO. So 2017 / 2018 is the more likely case.
Play it? It's not like there is a huge variety of content on either PS4 or Xbox One. Personally speaking of course, I'm rockin': PS4: Mordor, Isaac, GTA, Lego Batman 3, PvZ:GW, TLoU, Don't Starve, Fez X1: Sunset Overdrive, Valiant Hearts, Alien. Evil Within, Never Alone, Halo Wii U: Toad Treasure Tracker, Mario Kart, Mario 3D World, Nintendoland, Wii U Party Saying any of the 3 consoles are dusty shows you bought a console to own it, not play it.
Early death? For 30 years Nintendo has released a new home console like clockwork in 5-6 year intervals. Which means in 2017-2018, the Nintendo machine will be fully greased and ready to drop the next. Not early. Not late. If there's one thing in life that's certain, it's that Nintendo will drop a new home console every 5 to 6 years.
Nintendo hasn't been relevant in a long time, and they will stay that way until they step up their Online game, even Sony has stepped up their Online game now with PSN compared to were it was when the PS3 launched, now is the time though Nintendo, and make a normal Controller already Nintendo!
"Nintendo hasn't been relevant in a long time, and they will stay that way until they step up their Online game" Yet out of the 3 consoles, the Wii U is the only one that I can consistently get online with and play against others with no connection issues, no hacks, no DDOS attacks, etc. Nintendo's network isn't "sexy" compared to PSN or Live but damn if it doesn't work every...single...time!
@WickedLester Lets be honest. No ones gonna hack a network where's there's only 4 people online playing at a time.
Yes PSN.. the network that keeps on going down.. Yes, Sony really stepped up their game..
@Dramacydal Not everybody has the time to play video games like you. I know a_adji is on a gaming website but that doesn't mean he has to be somebody that games 5 hours a day. Just a heads up.
So you blame the console(s)? If someone is too busy in their lives to play that's their issue, not the console's.
I pity the fool who don't think NO ONE ISN'T worried bout NINTENDO
"Don't think no one isn't" Dude, that's like a triple negative lol. My head is still spinning trying to figure out what you meant by that
Nobody has to worry because Nintendo are working on a new console.. great however Ps4 was being worked on for over 5 years before it being released so the new Nintendo console will be no doubt as developers have to have games ready for release and the console has to have a lot of factors, you cant just bundle a lot of hardware together and make it work. The problem with taking so long to develop a console of course is by the time it's released it is out of date hardware like with the ps4 and xbox one and its why they cant handle 1080p with every current game. No doubt when the specs were decided they were easily powerful enough for 1080p gaming.
It's releasing in 2017/2018. Nintendo starts working on their new console LITERALLY the day after they finish the current console. It's been this way forever.
MS has enough to worry about as is, selling their console at a loss right now. giving away free games and gift cards yet still not being able to outsell ps4. Nintendo on the other hand also are just idiots, if i was running Nintendo i would open atleast 10 more studios and hire a lot of talent to make sure that games are coming out sooner rather than later also Nintendo it doesn't hurt to get feedback from publishers and developers and do mostly what they want, i am tired of Nintendo never getting 3rd party support and majority of the blame is on Nintendo hire more developers and open new studios. Next nintendo console should launch with new Mario new Zelda Metriod within first year smash bros within first year mario kart at launch a star fox game within first 18 months animal crossing within 6 months and than we will see how the console doesn't sell. bottom line is Nintendo are the same as other Japaneses publishers, where they are still stuck 10 years back with how they do things square enix capcom sega all 3 should be pumping out excellent games yet all we get are crappy titles and than they wonder why they don't make money COMMON SENSE i fully trust phil spencer and there is no way he is gonna mess up for next gem, i think he along with MS learned their lesson
Selling consoles at a lost isn't a new thing. It has been the way since the very beginning, they make up for it in the software sales.
Nintendo has a ton more ip´s then Microsoft, what they need is third party support. If the new console is as powerful and has the same architecture as current gen i think devs will be more willing to release titles on that console. also history shows that they are good at snagging sales from Sony and Microsoft, my guess is it will be only slightly more powerful then current gen, also i don't think any of the big three have to worry about each other, they all have their loyal fanbase.
Did I miss where Nintendo is releasing a new console and abandoning the WiiU? I must have... But I'm not reading anything from "Gamingbolt"
Only microsoft? If Nintendo makes a console that actually has the power and third party support to compete, more than MS should be worried. Think about it, Sony nor MS would be able to keep a console alive with pretty much nothing but exclusives.
This is n4g so only m$
Lol with Nintendo releases a new console in 2016 and at what price will the x1 and ps4 be at that point. Just like the price of a wii u compared too the price and value of 360 and ps3.
Nintendo has always over-hyped their new stuff, how do we know we can actually trust them on this? They have always been behind on Hardware ever since the Wii. Gamecube was actually on par with the modern systems, but the Wii and higher have fallen behind, and by that i mean even the handhelds. DS has way less power than the PSP, 3DS has less power than the Vita, Nvidia Shield, and the Iphone.
"Always been behind on hardware ever since the Wii" That was just last gen dude. And whether it was behind or not it sold over 100 million units which is more than either of the other big manufactorers. So your point isnt very valid. Not to mention missleading. They havent "always been behind". Just since last generation. Before that they made some ground breaking stuff and in extremely economic ways. First time I paid more than $250 for a Nintendo was the Wii u and it came with the game pas, pro controller, Zombi U, and Nintendo land. So hardly breaking my bank account when I get value like that. Between my PS4 and XB1 I almost dropped $1000 when purchased. So sometimes it isnt about the hardware. There are many other factors at work in a consoles success.
Who's to say they will actually make their next console more powerful then the other two? Didn't we hear the same thing with this gen? And look how that turned out. I honestly hope they are in talks with 3rd party publishers to get them all on board don't wait till the very end Nintendo ;)
No one said that, the article is about "what if"
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You are very welcome to delete your account and not come back if you feel the site is somehow slanted towards a particular company, but if you have any common sense you would realise that considering PS4 has double the sales of the xbone and is smashing it in world wide sales every single week, there would be more PS4 fans compared to the tiny user base of the xbone in comparison.
MRmagoo...that was the longest run-on sentence I have ever seen. How about you delete your account?
Neither can Nintendo which is why they would be making a new console so soon.
Nintendo's next console is a couple of years away.
Why would MS be worry when they outsold the Wii U in the stares like 1.2 million vs 245k during November? Smash Bros, one of the best exclusives for Nintendo, didn't help much and no matter how much power the next console Nintendo will have, they still lack third party support and most importantly, they don't have a robust online and media service like what MS is providing. It is like buying a cell phone these days without the software and service that let people do multiple things, doesn't matter how powerful the phone or game system is, if it doesn't have the standard of what people expect today, then it will never work.
Besides of what is stated in the piece (which is barely something), we don't know anything about Nintendo's future console. Time will tell what is going to be inside of it and also what Nintendo is going to do with it. We'll see if Microsoft should worry about it. But for now, let's not speculate about the topic and put November sales in the United States as a reference, we're not going anywhere.
But like I said, it is more about software and media content and online structure that will make or break Nintendo's next effort..moreso than power. Nintendo haven't shown they are willing to invest on these adaptation from the Wii to Wii U, and it is hard to imagine they can just turn on the switch and magically catch up on MS and Sony on that front that is why I don't see them as a thread now or in the near future. Don't get me wroong as I love my Wii just as my other 2 current gen consoles and the exclusives Nintendo provided this year is second to none but I am just speaking of how pretty much the gaming population see things with Nintendo.
They should worry if Nintendo plays their cards right. They sucked twice in a row now, so third time is the charm. They need to make something comparabld to a PS5 to make anyone care about their weak ass hardware.
Twice in a row? The Wii was number one console last gen. As for sucked....thats subjective. I myself havent owned a nintendo anything in a Long long time. And dont see that changing. The ONLY way I could see myself buying a nintendo in the future is if they continued with there own IPS and got 3rd party support from the games I love.
Sony should be worried about MS.
You edited your comment and ended up with "Lolz"? Wow.
Worried about what? the fact MS arent selling even close to the amount that sony are ? the fact the PS4 has the most games and the most high rated games ? what is it sony should worry about? is it the 5 weeks that xbone have outsold sony in just one country with a massive discount along with loads of free games while sony continues to dominate world wide sales every week and has done since release? Feel free to point out what they should worry about on one of your other accounts as you have no bubbles left. IF you can think of something that is.
You are such a fanboy. Don't act like having more bubbles makes you right. All you have to do to get bubbles is praise Sony. You lose bubbles by saying anything contrary, no matter how valid it is.
@lawgone Its always easy to spot someone of low intelligence when they have no points what so ever to make and just waffle on as you do. how come you manage to keep 4 bubbles if only saying good things about sony gets you bubbles and saying anything else makes you lose them ? And if saying good things about sony gives you bubbles why do I only have 5 ? I have been here since 2007 shouldnt I be swimming in bubbles if your stupid theory was true and I was also a sony fanboy ? Dont bother replying because I dont expect you to say anything of importance what so ever let alone a valid point, welcome to ignore. Also dont bother to PM either I have you blocked, I have no time for people like you.
MS has nothing to worry about. Neither does Sony.
A proper up to spec next gen console with a new Monster Hunter and open world 3d pokemon game. Nintendo couldn't print money faster than the revenue they'd recieve.
The main problem with the Wii U isnt that its under powered vs the PS4 and the X1 its the name!! I feel calling it the Wii U was the WORSE thing nintendo ever could have done. They guessed wrong that the name Wii would help them get the edge. When people say Wii U it sounds more like a game or a add on to the Wii then a whole new system. I feel they should have moved on from the Wii name. And called it Nintendo (_________) <<< anything but Wii would have helped seperate it from the Wii. How may millions who purchased the Wii give 2 shts about the WiiU or even care about getting another nintendo console. I know quite a few people who got a wii and never got another game. Wii U as it stands now with that name is kind of hard to market. Just an opinion.
I keep hearing Nintendo fans blame the name and state that the specs don't matter. The specs do matter, despite Nintendo making good games, a whole lot of people aren't buying the wii u for said games. At $300-350 it's badly overpriced vs the ps4/xb1 unless your a huge Nintendo fan. Nintendo isn't a threat to ms or sony, those are two separate groups with minor overlap with nintendo. I am starting to believe that Nintendo games aren't particularly appealing to gamers that aren't fans of Nintendo's lineup.
@Ashby I would say roughly 8 million people give a sh*t about the Wii U and more likely than not they were Wii owners. @Madjedi In what world is the Wii U $300 to $350? I bought mine over a year ago at $300 but it came with a pro controller, Nintendo land and Zombi U. That is over $100 in extras for free. That essentially reduced the price of the system to $200. Same bundles like that one are available now and even more so. Now Best Buy has three mario titles with the console and you can get two game bundles for only $250. That isnt super expensive at all when you figure in the price of the add ons technically brings the price of the console down. They have sold 8 million in two years with terrible publicity and not enough advertisement, no third party support, and no price drop. Imagine what will happen when the price does drop coupled with their increased positive publicity, and the fact that making games for it is starting to become cheaper as time goes on. Platinum, Shin En, and team Ninja are all doing just fine. There is still 3 to 4 years left in this generation man. They are the cheapest still after MS dropped their price by $150 and Sony started budnling games with the PS4. A $50 drop this summer around E3 while bundling games will sell tons of Wii Us. Never forget that the Super Nintendo had an add on to play Gameboy games, the Game cube one to play Gamboy Advanced games, and quite posssibly an add on for the U to play 3DS games. There are so many game changers possible that we cant possibly know what they will do. The one thing that I am sure of is thT it isnt even close to being $350. Especially not when you figure in the more than, in some cases, $100 in free games and peripherals they are throwing in the box.
I highly doubt they'll throw a console hail mary by releasing a new one shortly with higher specs than PS4 and X1. This would be a big F U to their current wii u owners and in a world where exclusives are selling your console, not sure Sony and M$ have to worry their fans will gave up Kratos, Nathan, Killzone, GT, Forza, Master Chief, GoW, etc.. for Mario, Link and DK. They had a chance to make a splash with the wii u but they decided to be ultra careful with the specs instead of spending some of that wii money, too bad.
They know that and theyve said there won't be a new console until gamers are satisfied with the Wiiu. They just admit they are making a new system, truth is MS and Sony both are working on their next gen too. Next gen is still a good 5-7 years away
A name besides WiiU would have helped market it better as a new console. Hell even calling it the Wii 2 would have been better. Its a whole new system. I do understand why the put the Wii in the name. They figured we sold tens of miliions of the Wii....lets keep that name and we sell more tens of millions. From what I read...the system is solid. So the sales arent there based on it being a crap console. I feel consumers just dont realize that the WiiU is a new standalone console and not a add on or new game for the Wii.
Funny how people mention that Nintendo has all these franchises under their belt but yet all I ever hear about is Mario, Pokeman, Mario Kart, Smash Brothers and so on. How about a new Starfox, Metroid, F-Zero or something to break the monotony. Nintendo just needs to step it up and realize that no matter what, people will always buy their products but as a consumer who supported them during NES, SNES, N64 days I kinda feel that as far as games go I'm getting the shaft.
You must have missed the star fox and 2 new IP announcement. Not to mention that miyamoto said there won't be another big console mario until the new console comes out. You are wrong in your complaint, you just picked a really late time to make it.
Thanks. I own a Wii U but never really follow Nintendo news.
Jesus more clickbait nonsense. Ms is struggling? Oh oh compared to ps4..wait no not really. Yes they are behind but struggling? The xb1 has sold better than any previous console. The only thing to have ever outpaced it in sales so far is the ps4. Bravo to Sony on 2014 but the hype train left the station and since e3 2013 Sony hasn't done much to stoke the fires meanwhile Microsoft has been charging hard with games and system updates that are top notch. Let's talk Nintendo. If anyone should be worried it would be Sony. Their only claim to fame is the ps4 is a bit more powerful than the Xbox. Other than that one fact the Xbox is the better overall box. So if nintendo swoops in with a console more powerful than both with more features than ps4 but less than the Xbox one (which is very likely) then Sony has a major issue. The question is will Nintendo screw it up with another gimmick? Dump motion controls dump the useless low res non multitouch tablet nonsense and make a game console. That's all they need to do. If it matches or beats the specs of either current console they will get all the 3rd party ports again. Add in the amazing games Nintendo is known for and you have a winner. I'd buy it day 1 even though nobody should as Nintendo hasn't truly proved they have smartened up yet. The wiiu has some amazing titles but it still has a very small library considering its age.
"Let's talk Nintendo. If anyone should be worried it would be Sony. Their only claim to fame is the ps4 is a bit more powerful than the Xbox. Other than that one fact the Xbox is the better overall box. So if nintendo swoops in with a console more powerful than both with more features than ps4 but less than the Xbox one (which is very likely) then Sony has a major issue." he said "let's talk Nintendo." hahaha that paragraph is full of MS fanboi, and very little about Nintendo.
Wow that screen is not touch screen?? I just assumed it was. That makes no sense. Ms is doing well but people like to see it as struggling or not selling. They are comparing it to the PS4 which is selling very very well!!! Now the Wii U....I think that can be classified as struggling.
It should worry Sony. Nintendo's new console will be 2.5x more powerful then PS4. MSFT already planned for this and has the cloud to boost performance by up to 5x. And if that doesn't work MSFT has the $$ to write off Xone and make a new console. Sony has neither of those options. If the PS4 doesn't have a 8-10 year life Sony will loose billions, and they really can't afford that.
Nintendo don't have the best track record for putting out highly powerful consoles, so I am not sure where you are getting this 2x more power than the PS4, but if that is true that would be a very welcoming fact. oh, I forgot about the cloud helping MS keep up with the power, and you probably should to. hahaha
The gamecube was more powerful than the ps2, the n64 was more powerful than the ps1 but it struggled in the storage department because it stuck to cartridge. The Snes was more powerful than the Genesis/Megadrive. So apart from the Wii/Wii U they have a history of having powerful hardware. You'd just need to be older than only having lived the last two gens to see it.
you do know cloud processing is real right? just a couple years off till its implemented, i wouldnt be so narrow minded just yet ;)
Lolwhat, where have you been the last couple of days? Cloud computing is nobody's saviour while nobody can reliably keep their networks operational. XD MS would not let its gaming division "just write off" the X1, either.