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Sony, Microsoft need to stand up to Lizard Squad

GGG writes about the recent XBL and PSN outages: "There doesn't appear to be an end in sight so for the time being, be prepared to have PSN and Xbox Live go down randomly for you. Lizard Squad appears to attack popular gaming services at least once or twice per month, with no signs of slowing down anytime soon. Until then, Microsoft and Sony need to try to look as strong as possible against this threat. Like a scene from a movie where an individual is getting the crap beaten out of them in an impossible fight telling their attacker "fuck off" before finally being knocked unconscious. Even if there is nothing they can do, they can at least stand up for themselves."

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Relientk771081d ago ShowReplies(18)
DarkAstronaut1081d ago

It's time to get these kids parents involved.

Letthewookiewin1081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

I think it's a group of very lonely 30 year olds. But standing by what you said yes, I'm sure we could get their parents involved.

nitus101081d ago

I think you have to find the culprits first before you can make a call like that.

BABY-JEDI1080d ago

But what if they are badly made test tube babies?

ShinMaster1080d ago (Edited 1080d ago )

What was surprising to me was that PSN is currently more secure than XBL as of recently.

""The easier game network to take down was Microsoft’s Xbox Live. Sony had apparently upgraded its security recently, which took “a bit of time to work around,” but Microsoft had “almost nothing” in terms of security.""
-Lizard Squad

http://www.businessinsider....

Seems like PSN isn't as bad as some people want it to be.

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OB1Biker1081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

Not sure what they can do but everyone should Stop talking about them its just what they want

Lord_Sloth1081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

This TOTALLY would have stopped Hitler, too.

lawgone1081d ago

Lotd_Sloth...are you kidding me? Hitler?

Gaming247allday1081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

Sadly, it's quite difficult to defend your network from traffic. I mean, more servers would always be an option, but that's probably just a sticking plaster on a gaping wound. if they could do something, i'm sure they would

GameSpawn1081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

More servers do not work against DDOS attacks, they'll just increase the number of machines flooding garbage to the servers. The only proven way to stop DDOS attacks is for ISPs and internet gateways to detect them before they reach their destination (another virtually impossible task especially with distributed attacks, the 1st "D" in DDOS).

They only way to nip DDOS in the bud 100% is to give up the very thing that the internet was founded upon...neutrality & openness. If we allow ISPs to monitor traffic much more closely, DDOS attacks can be detected EXTREMELY early on and the "flood" of bad packets can be dumped early on in the internet "nodes" and the perpetrators (infected machines - DDOS is not done by one individual's machine or a set of individuals, but "ghosts", infected computers with "sleeper" trojans that wait for commands from a remote source) can be temporarily blacklisted and blocked from ALL internet traffic. This does mean giving up a big freedom though and that is the freedom of information through the internet as well as some layers of anonymity.

I wish that ISPs weren't so greedy as if they were truly upstanding and cared for the freedom of information to all that the internet provides they could implement a system such as the one mentioned with the trust that it would never be used for nefarious purposes (such as personal [monetary] gain or government strong-arming). Unfortunately we live in a greedy, hateful world because if people weren't greedy and hateful we wouldn't even need systems like this in the first place. It's really a catch-22 the more you think about it.

shloobmm31081d ago

I think lizardsquad is simply taking advantage of a common sense situation. This is simply Holiday traffic from tons of new users at one time.

Ghost_of_Tsushima1081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

First thing is why don't Twitter delete their accounts? All there out for it popularity and no one does anything about it.

Sam Fisher1080d ago

Freedom of expression, twitter can not take down anything unless there is truly an extreme, like terrorism or abuse of some sort, but in eyes of twitter ls dont mean anything but a name

Ozmoses1081d ago

Is anyone else experiencing Malware issues popping up when trying to click the link provided that takes you to the actual article??? (I'm not just talking this article, but every article on N4G has been doing this since about mid afternoon EST time.)

I can't read any articles, I can see the comments and post comments but clicking to the link provided always results in a malware warning from the browser. It's really strange.

ab5olut10n1081d ago

Getting the same thing, on a macbook

Muzikguy1081d ago

I keep getting redirected to the App Store on my phone and it's frustrating. Half the time I can't even read anyrhing. Been going on a few days now

nosferatuzodd1081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

me too this is crazy i think something sinister is behind these attacks

Igniter1081d ago

Norton is reporting that these are attack pages.

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KingWookiee1081d ago

Thats pretty legit... but they tried to stop them before so lets see if this does anything

THC CELL1081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

This would ruin cloud gaming. Why they need to stop it now xbox and sony teaming up will be a start.

These guys should be helping track iss not attacking us geeks we are not terrorist

lawgone1080d ago

They are not sophisticated enough to help track anything. They're mostly kids doing DDoS because it's easy and they are bored and need attention. It's sad really. They don't get how seriously they can get into trouble. They think when the cops come they can just say "it was a joke" and it will all go away. They're in for a rude awakening.

Aceman181081d ago

What do these losers have against gamers? Why can't they go bother other people or businesses?

Bansai1081d ago

oh the irony of this situation, owner of a big bad piracy site rescues sony and ms, this is too good.

ShutUpDonny1081d ago

Help those frustrated virgins to get laid.

lipton1011080d ago

Hire a hitman - kill em all! /s if that really did happen though, I guarantee nobody else would be trying the same as these cowards

The_KELRaTH1080d ago

Well one thought is blocking entire IP's of non Western countries till the source country is found.

It was a very effective measure when game IRC's were often attacked.

pixelsword1080d ago (Edited 1080d ago )

They don't need to do anything:

According to the US definition of terrorism in Title 18 of the United States Code, activities that intimidate or coerce a civilian population that happens outside of the US makes them a terrorist organization.

If they did it inside of the US, the Patriot Acts says the same thing: When Lizard squad demanded 10,000 RTS on Twitter to "stop smacking #Xbox and #PSN offline", they coerced citizens; officially becoming a terrorist organization in the eyes of the US, whether they are in the US or not.

Now, who knows what's going to happen to them...

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Majin-vegeta1081d ago

Ummm I keep getting security error/

The site ahead contains malware

Relientk771081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

Idk what is happening, but I literally have been getting that too all day on N4G

*Edit @ below: For the past 3 hours its been ALL links for me from N4G submissions

DarkAstronaut1081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

Lizard Squads next target for their political agenda against taxes and prostitution is N4G.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

=)

mrbojingles1081d ago

Me too, but for a bunch of different links here on N4G. Like Dual Shockers, etc. Why?

ZoyosJD1081d ago

It's the N4G redirect page that's the issue. The thing is every time you click out the N4G redirect page (that counts all the clicks for heat and whatnot) it also immediately links you to the site that was linked without clicking anything.

Because of its nature to do that google chrome and other web browsers have collected enough dings on it's record from sites with malware it has linked that they have put it on the "naughty" list.

Following the digital paper trail we can find the actual sites that are hosting the malware, whether they know or not...

"Of the 364 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 10 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2014-12-25, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2014-12-25.
Malicious software includes 111 trojan(s), 19 scripting exploit(s).

Malicious software is hosted on 5 domain(s), including gameobserver.com/, mmocast.com/, mbcobretti.com/.

3 domain(s) appear to be functioning as intermediaries for distributing malware to visitors of this site, including pixelatedgeek.com/, waternfirerecovery.com/, mmocast.com/.

This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS36351 (SOFTLAYER)."

I'll be PM'ing a mod this info.

Nitrowolf21081d ago

it's n4g itself, has to be caus ei get it for all links when i click the sourcer

d3nworth11081d ago

I thought it was just me.

SilentNegotiator1081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

Probably some bad N4G redirect links getting reported got all of them turned into a security issue for whatever browser/antivirus you're using that had the message.

edit: I'm getting it, too.

ZoyosJD1081d ago

Yep, you generally had it. You can see the sites causing the issue in my post above.

I'm using chrome currently. Same for you and others with the issue?

ZoyosJD1080d ago

Interesting, I noticed most hadn't commented on the matter and thought it might be browser specific. Then I'd assume they pull from the same list. Thanks for the input anyway.

I'll see if I can figure out a user end setting adjustment to fix this in the meantime.

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leemo191081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

There's not much you can do to prevent ddos attack. Now MS and Sony can spend money and ask the FBI or CIA to help track down the ips of these people, since they are using twitter so its coming from somewhere.

cl19831081d ago

Fbi yes, but the CIA isn't "allowed" to work on projects that take place in the us only on foreign soil.

OrangePowerz1081d ago

Well the CIA is not supposed to operate on the home turf. Thry still work together with the FBI and handle anything that needs to be done outside the US on cases while the FBI does the stuff at home. Granted since they.are fully separate departments their teamwork is probably not working that great.

Blancast1080d ago

The CIA are also not "allowed" to torture people, but they still do that anyway.

Whirlwind_Fanfare_081081d ago

Somebody just exposed the lizard squad on twitter! got their name, phone number, location, members to. And they're all from canada! and it's a legit list btw. And.....there's face of one of them as well!

D3TH_D33LR1081d ago

Source? And we know this isn't a joke how?

Jonny5isalive1081d ago

someone should have them swatted lol.

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rainslacker1081d ago

Don't have to spend money to get the FBI to do their job, just file a complaint. Helps if they give whatever information they have.

However, I'm starting to think that LS isn't responsible for everything they claim they've done, because we're talking hundreds of millions of dollars in damages to several different companies, and that usually gets the FBI involved.

Could be that there is an investigation happening, but FBI wouldn't say anything due to it not being a good idea when tracking down a hacker.

LightDiego1081d ago

Obama is speaking right now on television, he will declares war against Lizard Squad, David Cameron and Angela Merkel will do the same.
Switzerland said that will be neutral.

jrshankill1081d ago

^This. There is nothing Sony or MS can do to their "security" to stop a ddos attack.. basically it's like flooding an ip with data to the point of overuse. All that can (and should) be done is have these lizard dicks tracked down and imprisoned for being knobheads.

bubblebobble1081d ago

would really make me laugh seeing them in jail were not talking bad asses here were talking nerds locked up with badd asses cannon fodder

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GokuSolosAll1081d ago

Durr stan up 2 dem

I think they're a boogey man. Even if real, they pose a minimal threat, mere annoyance. Shut up with the drama. Take it to your lagina beaches or justin biebers or jersey shores or whatever you kids do these days.

KwietStorm1081d ago

What the hell are you trying to speak?

rainslacker1081d ago

If all these outages are due to DDoS, then we're talking about a lot of monetary losses to the companies that have been targeted. Sure it's not murder or anything, but I'd say it's far from an annoyance at this point.

Ripsta7th1081d ago

Imagine nintendo was lizard squad hahaha

q8kik1081d ago

The plot will surely thicken lol

OrangePowerz1081d ago

They don't know the internet good enough for that.

marloc_x1081d ago (Edited 1081d ago )

Yet Nintendo's network has been solid..

Aceman181081d ago

@Marloc

That's because they don't have that many people on their service like psn and live.

Baka-akaB1081d ago

Besides arent the most popular games stuff like Mario Kart or Smash ? They are awesome alright , but the volume of people and data is nothing compared to XBL , PSN or Steam