Sony's PlayStation Now game streaming service will be available on select Samsung Smart TVs in the first half of 2015.
I wonder how long it will be before the media fully understand what PSNow is all about? I think the problem has been that we see it regularly on gaming sites like this and so automatically assume it's for people like us, but it's not and has never been. A certain degree of BC was going to be pushed as one of the reasons simply because it suits Sony to offer some kind of solution, but that was never the real reason for its existence. It's designed for those people who are unlikely to ever buy a console and those who are more sporadic in their gaming habits. This is just the start of a huge money earner for Sony and as they roll it out to more TV manufacturers, Phones, Laptops, PCs, Pads and Blu-ray players, the picture will become clearer and we'll start seeing PSNow reported by other sites that are not necessarily the sort of site we'd see posted here. This is PS mass marketing to a potential audience thousands of times bigger than the console or handheld markets combined. As they often say: It begins.
This is HUGE. Good job landing deal with Samsung.
Oh I hope this comes to Galaxy Phones and Tabs too. I would love to rock some games on my Note 4!
I disagree. PSNow should be Sony exclusive. It should be a reason to choose a Sony TV over a Samsung.
@Death ANY time company A can get their product/service on company B's platform, that is a huge deal for company A. Keeping it exclusive on PlayStation would be a big mistake, and Sony would basically be closing the door on themselves. What Gribble said is exactly right.
@Death So MS bringing Office to Apple devices is wrong? I think not my friend. PSNow on the leading TV manufacturer and others to come is a huge huge game changer it opens the gates to billions of people to experience Playstation, imagine all those potential subscription fees. Sony is finally opening up to the world away from their neolithic perceptions leading gaming into the future. Nintendo are you paying attention?
@Death: Sony started from the beginning of the PSNow announcement they planned to put it on other brand devices. TV to tablets included. Hell, MS seems to be scrambling to offer XO remote access on tablets. Is that wrong?
No one is scrambling to stream video games. PS Now will not be the success some of you here beleive.
Still it would be nice to see some Bette prices in the service. But good deal here. Samsung tvs are quite mass market.
But it's not for you. It's for the millions and millions of people who would never buy a console and may want to play a game now and then. Most people on forums already own a PS1/PS2/PS3 so 'obviously' it's not likely to get them too excited. BC is just something Sony have mentioned because (of course) SOME people who once owned the above consoles may just be tempted too. This is about the Playstation brand, not consoles or handhelds. Sony are un-tethering their gaming heritage and increasing the market for 3rd party publishers too. I'm sure publishers like EA are licking their lips at that prospect.
People who would pay those prices are the same ones who would pay $6+ to stream an HD movie, or purchases a new release movie for $20-30 to be able to stream it. Gribble is right above, PSNow was always for these types of people, not for the gamer. Sony is pushing a new service on an untested market. it's easy for some to say now that it will fail, but we just don't know that yet, because no one else is doing it like this. What will make it really take off is offering something that is enough to get people to get a game when in need, like for a party, or when people have their grandkids over. There's a lot of potential here, and while the prices suck for gamers, I don't think they're going to be that big a deal for PSNow's intended audience.
I was wondering if this was going to come to fruition. I know Gaikai had just signed a partnership with Samsung as well as other smart devices before they were acquired by Sony. This is a nice big step in the right direction, now they've really gotta start building that library and pushing the service. Pretty soon this can be as common as Netflix and Facebook as far as apps go as long as they push it right.
i see it more as a money grab to replace backwards compatibility and the extinction of the rental market as we know it. it was bound to fail unless they offer a subscription based model. no hard data will be revealed from sony as to how well its actually doing, which means there really is nothing to report as of yet. getting the service out there is one key area which bolds well with this deal but unless prices are rock bottom, i.e. monthly flat fees, nobody will really give it a second glance.
After reading you comment one word popped in my head. Huh? That is all.
100% this was about Expanding the Playstation Eco system to that of more than just "sony" only hardware. Again Some may say why than release a Dedicated Game console at all? that Q: is very easy A: Would That Expansion exclude Sony from Releasing their OWN harddware to Take Advantage of Sony's own Eco System? Or for that matter another 3rd party (Consumer Electronics) company doing the same! to Take advantage of that Playstation Eco system! if the Large Consumer Electronic Companies that make TV's Say Samsung put inside the Smart TV's that they make put in better Arm Cortex Powered chips to take advantage of Such added Eco system, How does that Hurt Sony? to Many Consumers it will be playing Playstation Games, Hell Even Sony may choose to put out a small streaming/local smart store gaming hybrid box like the "Playstation Tv" oh wait a min..LOL from past future Playstation series Consoles, Sony could very well release as the main casual sysytem as a smart TV box, that still would not/ exclude a dedicated more expensive Game console that can still be released! the Fact is Sony is taking that GaiKai investment and the more consumer electronics companies aside from Sony that take advantage of that Eco system = cheaper pricing for subscriptions for playstation Now which also = more content that can be added by even samsung themselves they could very make their own games to playstation Now because of Unity 3D being the standard high end game engine for Arm Cortex chipsets along with it works fantastic on not only the playstation Vita chipset which is Arm Cortex based, but also snapdragon and MIPS chipsets. with that in Mind its also expand into Apple iOS and Android OS and maybe Windows Phone OS. you can expand without going 3rd party completely, and still make a dedicated system, its The Expansion area to gain more consumer $$ without that consumer having to buy new hardware. hell that also may mean, more dual shock game pads sold with other companies hardware..Grin its not just the box that may or may not sit under a TV, say if a dual shock game pad now ships with the samsung TV, hell how about Vizio TV's, Panasonic, LG etc.. hey there is a playstation Game pad included with a TV! to a number of mainly TV Using consumer , they may see that as enough, Netflix of Gaming was coined on this move from Sony when they did BUY GaiKai getting Samsung as just the 1st TV company on Board just may make that a viability.
Mark my words...ps now will be the end of physical consoles (at least for Sony).
Thatll make them some extra bank
It's literally coming to everything. Sony is preparing for life after the console market. Smart move.
I like how instead of dropping buzzwords and marketing phrases like "the power of the cloud", sony have just been showing what their cloud service can do without even mentioning the cloud once (share play, psNow etc) I really hope MS start showing off what they have planned for their cloud services(in regards to the gaming side of things) in the future and very soon, I'm sure they've got some good ideas in the works that will turn some heads. At least I hope they do. And I don't mean rendering in the cloud, that's only really feasible for very minimilist stuff at best with the average customers connection speed and the amount of traffic from the vast amount of xbox owners. The latency would be too noticeable for it to do anythign too heavy in the graphics department, I imagine it would be a return to the pop in that plagued Halo 2 (does anyone remember that halo 2 campaign pop in? I mean the original of course, not the remake). All in all this is a great deal for gamers and non gamers alike looking to pick up a samsung smart tv in the future, especially for a die hard xbox fan that never played ps1/2/3 or someone who was born too late to experience the ps1 or ps2 in its heyday
Christian Hour Have you ever put any thought into why you don't like the buzzword "cloud"? From what I have noticed, out of all of the people I know and interact with in life and the internet, NO ONE has a problem using or letting other electronic companies use the word "cloud" EXCEPT GAMERS. IMO the only reason gamers don't like to hear the word cloud is because it is commonly used by MS, a company that a lot of gamers like to hate on. You do not hear Apple fans complaining about Apple using the buzzword "cloud". I find this very silly because we know what the cloud really is, its basically a bunch of computers in a data center that holds, saves, and processes information and data. Why are we sensitive to the word "cloud" and wtf do we care if MS uses the word?? Sony does no use the word because they know that you hate it when their competitor MS uses it...lol. Sony and other companies have no problem with it and use the word all the time, when they are not talking about video games. Its called being aware. MS has demonstrated what their version of the cloud can and will do right now and in the future. They are also working on a ps now type service. Do a little research and you will find it. The bulk of it is just not ready for prime time (neither is Ps Now IMO) and doesn't yet fit MS standards.
Most of them have no problem with the word "cloud", they have a problem with the cloud being used as a marketing gimmick that's a long way from practical use in the way it's said to be used, with no decent real world examples of what it can do. They don't like being treated like idiots by having buzzwords thrown at them just so said company can try and downplay it's shortcomings due to their lack of foresight in console design. Gamers also don't like that MS is trying to make standard cloud features that have been around for a decade be into some new thing that is somehow exclusive to X1. MS tried to use the cloud terminology when they were under a lot of heat for a lot of reasons to try and redirect all that hate by hoping that gamers were stupid and would buy into the whole "Cloud will make the Xbox 3X more powerful" crap. MS has demonstrated some things that could be done on cloud, but we haven't seen that in a released product(Please don't bring up TF AI). Oddly enough, NVidia is the only company that has shown what MS said the cloud would be used for initially, and NVidia said the technology was a long ways from practical implementation on the large scale. Crackdown seems to be the most promising thing right now for cloud, but what happens if you aren't connected to the internet, or will they also lock it behind XBLG? More on topic, Sony isn't really doing this. They are just developing their product, and cloud isn't a term they really use for marketing. Sony is not promising the world with cloud, they just going to show it and let it sell on it's own.
Mostly because "cloud" computing has been around for decades, it's nothing new, but many different companies are trying to make it seem like its some magical new gift to humanity, instead of highlighting that all tahts really happened is technology has caught up with the method to make it feasible for a large portion of the population to connect to remote networked services. The internet itself is technically "cloud" computing. I dislike any company doing it, especially Apple with its iCloud. I know some people who think Apple invented "The Cloud", they also thought they invented mp3s and the players to play em too. These are acquaintances of course, not friends :P And yes I'm VERY aware about how uptight and anal I'm being here. It's one of those things I hate about myself, but at same time can't stop myself haha. I'm a little obsessive over details and as we all know the devil is in the details, (I also can't stomach the idea of the spread of misinformation.) So I guess its made me a bitter old soul, so don't take my begrudgery to heart, I'm just an old man out of touch with his own generation :)
its because of the huge catalog of games they have dating back to the psone. they just need to get the pricing and all for the service just right and this could be a huge success for them. this another place where indie studios will become a huge success too and is a huge reason sony are on the indie train. potential bling bling. this will be huge if this turns out the way they want it to go.
Both of you have written great comments. This move will definitely be a huge success for Sony. It will also be great for the industry. Literally everyone benefits. As far as Microsoft is concerned, I'm not sure they have the content to carry a service like this one. Nintendo does, certainly, but I'm not sure about MS.
PSNow is nothing im really looking forward to but it definitely has potential to hit a grandslam out the park if it succeeds & I agree Nintendo could also do the same and a few 3rd party corporations such as EA, Ubisoft, Capcom etc. etc. if they choose to because of their many franchises they have to offer. Sony already has a great start with this deal, all they need to work on is pricing and this thing could take off.
I dunno, if Microsoft decided to start a streaming service with all the best Microsoft Games PC titles from the 90's and early 00's accessible on xb1 along with xbox and 360 titles, they'd definitely have a contender. Sure it'd be mostly flight simulator and midtown madness with a slice of age of empires on the PC end, but... okay actually I honestly thought they had more on the pc publishing/developing end of things in the 90's/00's but I guess those were rose tinted glasses I was wearing, but they could definitely offer something sweet with Xbox Originals if they get a fair business model nailed down
So, one: Are Sony going to advertise it, which they pretty much need to. Two: Have they changed the prices that everyone has been complaining about?
Im assuming that if its coming to Samsung Tvs, im sure Samsung are going to help them advertise it as well One thing is for certain though, this and PS vue means that they want to be the go to company when it comes to entertainment through the cloud, cause I can see PS vue being pushed outside of sony products as well. its not just for an impending situation of life after the console market...
@GribbleGunger What makes you think non gamers will suddenly adapt to PSNow?
Many people play video games and don't consider themselves to be 'gamers'. People on smartphones, laptops, pads, browsers ... you name it, they play it. Hardly any of these people frequent websites like this or even know what company make what. They don't need every single one of those billions and billions of people to use PSNow, they just need a tiny percentage for it to make more money than their consoles/handhelds combined. No manufacturing cost for hardware OR disc based software. No distribution costs and no printing costs. No middle men whatsoever, just an App.
@"Many people play video games and don't consider themselves to be 'gamers'. People on smartphones, laptops, pads, browsers ... you name it, they play it. Hardly any of these people frequent websites like this or even know what company make what." Well said. That's exactly who PS Now is made for, casual gamers. People who only play for a few hours a day, week, or month. People who play games on the go with smartphones and tablets. Millions of people use these devices, all Sony needs is 10% of them to use the service for it to be profitable.
100% completely agree, look at what this means, combine playstation Now add in playstation Vue with any smart TV, now add in a playstation Dual Shock 3/4 game controller pad included with that companies TV.. you get a game console. Cable service with no box needed, and add in playstation vita chipset with game card port or a flash storage option, the games could even be played off line without needing internet all from any TV company...that is why this move is an expanded Eco system , would this include all the big new AAA iP, maybe not but having a cheap legacy game console functionality added to any smart TV. Not just Sony only could make playstation to be the go to Living room system platform , because if its on all TV's with a Dual Shock added it would in effect be seen by many consumers as such.
How many casuals own smart TVs? The point of PSNow is to bring a streaming gaming service to people who dont have or dont want to spend money on a console. PSNows purpose is to provide Sony with additional revenue by offering a service to millions of people who don't consider themselves serious gamers. I can imagine that said casual might be willing to play games if they dont have to buy a device for it.
yeah, and if Samsung and Vizio etc , ship with new smart TV's a dual shock 3/4 Game pad means a cheap included bundle neing just a game pad added in to the TV would be cheaper than the casual gamer having to buy another console if the TV already is one on legacy games with some may be new releases. its like adding a "Netfix Game console esk" type of platform for very low cost its a real good low cost functionality added for the cost of TV manuf. companies like Samsung, or LG with such strong name brand power known world wide, it stands a very good chance to be viable in my opinion.
I can't see them becoming hardcore gamers, but I can see people renting games when they have family over to entertain the kids. Or when having a party renting some party game, or just renting a game from time to time. Could see people trying to have some nostalgia by seeing a game they liked when young, even though they since stopped gaming. There are a lot of possibilities, but the question becomes, would people go for this feature if it costs extra to get it with the TV, or will they buy the cheaper TV without this feature? PSNow has to become fairly standard like most SmartTV features for it to get to the point that I mention above, but I guess it does have to start somewhere.
I just bought a Sony 48in. led smart tv, and to my surprise it has PSNow already. I haven't fooled with it though.
Nice. Bravias are the best. Wouldn't choose anything else.
really happy with my W700b, its perfect for gaming.
I just wish there were 4k TV's that can do 240Hz. Hopefully CES 2015 will reveal.
I live in portand OR area. Samsung tv's are popular here, this is a smart move by Sony.
I donno about it not being for core gamers. Im a core gamer and i indulge once in a while. I like that i can jump into any game for a quick 4 hours and pay about 1.99.
Although I'd never buy a Samsung product(I don't want to support Korea), It's nice to see PS Now on more devices. It gets Playstation in more people's hands, which is good! Bravia TV's are always better though, way better color accuracy and the lowest input lag out of any TV brand, perfect for gaming.
Samsung is South Korea (the good guys). Not the brainwashed fools ran by a retard (North Korea)
South Korea is a democracy. Why wouldn't you want to show them support? Anyway I dont own a Samsung TV but might consider one when I upgrade my Panasonic Viera. Edit: low input lag is a problem all TVs have when it comes to gaming. The response time is just not fast enough no matter how less it impacts a Sony TV...lol. Ive been gaming for over 25yrs and after buying a 2ms Asus PC monitor Im never going back to gaming on TV.
Input latency isn't as significant with consoles. A wireless control pad inherently has something like 100ms latency already. The numbers all stack up and the measurements on the TV can make a difference, but it isn't felt to the same extent as when using a keyboard and mouse.
I personally have never liked any of their products. I also don't appreciate their immature and unprofessional advertising. They're a bunch of try hards doing everything they can to put down on Apple and Sony, and they know good and darn well they will never beat Apple, but I'm always trying to push people to buy Sony products because not only are they the highest quality, they're the true innovators, creating and pushing technology like bluray and 4K. But Samsung gets all the credit, and it pisses me off. So regardless, I will never buy anything Samsung.
South Korean companies (Samsung and LG) are at the forefront of display technology. Regardless of who you choose to support, your phone and TV probably have Samsung hardware inside anyway.
First of all, any western marketing you see for samsung is down to their western marketing department, it has nothing to do with their South Korean division of marketing. Secondly you can't give Sony all the credit for Blu Ray, they did it in conjunction with panasonic and you have to give credit to companies like Samsung for signing on and supporting the format instead of going with HD-DVD. Samsungs not getting all the credit either, thats verging on hyperbolic and I'd be careful about bad mouthing Samsung on the internet. They have a defence division. They are probably targeting your house as we speak... RUN TO THE HILLS! http://www.samsungtechwin.c... "I dont want to support Korea" Are you seriously that uneducated about the world? You probably think all muslims are extremists too. And all catholics are egomaniacal baby molesters too, I guess?
Yeah, Apple never talks bad about it's competition or has subversive marketing making them look better. Those "I'm a Mac" commercials come to mind.
And we're not at all concerned or worried that this isn't some sort of 'beta form' of the next PS5? I'm starting to think the next PS5 will be a TV and a controller w/ cloud gaming.
I really don't see that happening. Unless there is some sort of universal transformation in the way that Internet is provided to us, it just wouldn't be a reliable enough system compared to having a physical. I don't mind buying the occasional digital game on my console, but I'm not a huge fan of the idea of a console-less next gen!
More like the PS7\PS8. The infrastructure isn't anywhere near being able to administer a gaming streaming service to millions of people. Look at game streaming on the PS4. It works but you need a good conenction for it which is something that many people don't have.
Yup, spot on. I am able to shareplay with my friends but they try and let me try one of their games and it shits the bed. Internet plans are so sporadic it's just not feasible. Here in Ireland the two main choices are UPC and Eircom (and then wireless services like wimax etc). UPC and Eircom both offer high powerd fibre optic broadband; UPC it's fibre wire the whole way to your modem, however with eircom its only select areas, and even then the fibre optic never comes near your house, once it reaches a box on your street, its going through old phone cable 56k style laid down over 20 years ago (mayeb in the last 5 years if you're fortunate enough to be in a recently built house where the wiring isnt too funky) And unfotruntaley because eircom bought up a lot of the telecommunication contracts back in the day, they are widespread and have areas completely locked off that UPC are not allowed lay cable in. So for a lot of people in this country, getting 2.something mbps despite having a 100mbps "fibre optic" broadband connection with eircom is all they can get. I've just been fortunate enough to be in UPC sanctioned areas and average about 10 mbps during peak hours. And because eircom know they have this advantage over their customers by holding most of the telecommunication contracts they are the WORST, overcharging and customer care does not give a fook. So yeah, not everyone woudl be able to take advantage of a future console that lives in the cloud, not until crap like this gets sorted and fixed the world over.
Now I need to keep track of what TV brands get that junk added to them so I don't buy one. Hopefully it's only a few Samsung models or at least give us an option to buy a tv without at all.
And what a ridiculous waste of your time that will be. If it's on there and you don't want to use it, don't use it. You sound outraged, like a vegan boycotting a company for animal testing! It's not as serious as that, little buddy, it's just games lol
Smart TVs collect data on the user, and many even have cameras. If Gaikai becomes self-aware and starts building robots that will kill all humans then Castillo will be one of the few people that has a fighting chance at survival. How can you call that a ridiculous waste of time?
I'm pretty sure Sony is trying to get the service going on all internet ready devices, including devices that Sony competes with. More customers means more profits. It's a no brainer.
I have a sansung tv so i've already spent more than i should of, I'm not renting games too. They should just port them smh
Sounds good.Now we just need that subscription plan they promised and I'm all in.
I think the average joe will be confused to why you need to buy a PS4??
I wonder when we can play PSNow on psvita / ps4?
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