As he often does, Microsoft’s Head of the Xbox Division Phil Spencer answered a few questions from the fans today, giving some rather interesting insight:
They're jumping into VR
new dashboard along with a universal look across all microsoft products. plus any game that available on xbox and pc will be cross buy
Doesn't sound like MS.
After shutting down their PC store it seemed like they were falling to far behind Steam to have a lasting impression on PC. But what if the Windows 10 app for PC is more than meets the eye. What if, it allows you to play your Xbox Games on PC in a reverse Nvidia Shield style or remote play. The idea of a ubiquitous operating system was to allow apps designed for Windows to be deployed on Xbox and Windows Phone, Surface... but why can it work the other way around. Why not let your PC play games from off your Xbox. Its like Remote Play on PlayStation... and if some folks got remote play working on PC, I don't see why Microsoft can make this a thing for Windows 10.
I don't see them talking about anything pc related except for Windows 10. ms needs to allow more games from xbox to get ported over to PC to keep the positive feedback going.
It would make sense for Microsoft to support both their platforms. I like Games for Windows, just not the way it was implemented. Having the same UI for both would be pretty cool. If I had the choice I would prefer to start my gaming rig up in a gaming UI instead of the desktop.
how bout a steam app that lets you stream games from your PC. Not as unlikely as you would think
Yeah, that would produce great feedback for Xbox one, all of their exclusives going to PC. /s
It would be great but then no one would buy any Xbox ones because 3 year old note books are more powerful and far more functional lol. And really all the Xbox brand has going for it is Halo anyway, without Halo as an Xbox exclusive Xbox would flop almost overnight.
WizardKing- That's like saying the only thing the PS4 brand has going for it is Uncharted, and without it PS4 would be a flop. Making such a statement would be completely ignorant and completely ignores the countless games also sold on PS4. And considering the fact that neither a new Halo or Uncharted is available for either system, your argument falls completely flat. Nobody spends that kind of money for a console with the knowledge that on some unknown day in the future a game they're a fan of will be released. BTw... if you haven't heard. The PC version of Halo: Master Chief Edition was listed on Amazon but taken down. Considering how much the mod community has improved the first two games in the series, i look forward to it.
More like powersliding into it, which is what they should be doing. I also think their setup will have more elements of AR in addition to VR. I do not think we'll be seeing a Oculus/Morpheus style Xbox branded device. It'll be different. They've been working on it for a long time. As far as Xbox PC, I can see: Windows 10 derivative on Xbox One/DX12 - we all know this More Universal Apps + Games Cross Buy Certain games get Cross Play Streaming Xbox One/360 games locally to your PC. Streaming Xbox One TV to tablet via Smartglass - we know this is coming at some point This is the BIG BIG Rumor for me: A STEAM app on Xbox One and Windows 10. As far as games: PC gets certain Windows exclusives Xbox will retain its share of console exclusives There will be games that overlap Halo 5 is NOT coming to PC. Xbox isn't going to be integrated into PCs, I think the idea of a box in the living room is still part of MS goal of owning the living room.I do think that over time Xbox One and its successor will become more of a PC that lives in the living room and does everything.
^ This post is probably the realistic estimate a PC gamer could hope from Microsoft as "interesting news".
Once the WINDOWS apps are allowed to the installed on the XBONE its going to be amazing. I will sell my PC and buy a WiiU.
VR over rated & TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE. half of us gamers can't even afford a SONY VR head set wast of time and resources.
So you know the price of morpheus?
^Enojay "Only on xbox gold"?
They are following PlayStation path.
Oh yeah since Sony is taking the PC world by storm.. not. Yeah... Owners/Creators of THE Biggest/most used Operating Systems is following Sony's footsteps for PC related things. /s Get educated, you WAY too much Anime-watching scrub.
First thing this image is from Persona 5 main character so it still anime yet. Second thing Darling you cant take a joke instead you take to the heart and PS4 is outselling the XBone by long time and Sony support Pc since they have a studio that make games for PlayStation console and PC while Microsoft keep it exclusive to their console and i am not talking about third party but first, second party. Third thing darling i love anime that i support my vita with anime game only while the main console is everything so thank you that i am Anime-watching scrub since i embrace it.
VR or Xbox-PC crossplay.
If its not Xbox/Pc crossplay I dont care.
Agreed. That would be awesome, some of my buddies got GTA V on XB1 and I'm committed to porting my character to PC. Being able to cross play would be fantastic, but, I'm afraid it would be far too late. Actually, if that means Games for Windows comes back... I would retract that statement :)
So that's the only 2 thing's your mind can imagine? How limiting it must be for you.
It is windows 10 related as Phil will be at the Panel on the 21st of Jan to talk and demo the compatibility of Windows 10 between PC , phones and XB1. My guess is, buy a game for Windows 10, it can be shared, played, and cross compatible between the three ecosystem. It will be a killer feature that will leave the competition in the dust.
It sounds really nice, but I hope in terms of the PC it's actual game releases and not some streaming BS.
Sony already does cross buy lol
I think what he's saying is that Xbox software will be able to run on PCs... Meaning anyone with a win10 device will essentially have an Xbox. That would do instant wonders for their installed base. I ain't sure this will happen, but it seems plausible since XboxOS is a modified version of windows this time around. This would be a bigger deal than cross play, so I don't see how MS would be able to keep this a secret...
LOL, It is not cross buy as the Xbox One will get an OS update early next year that will be a modified version of Windows 10 and essentially it will help small developers (and also any developers for that matter) to easily port games from one platform to another and cross play and game sharing with multiple devices might be possible. Essentially think about a game like minecraft, which so happen that MS spent 2 billion dollars to buy. It is a huge hit on PC, mobile devices, and also on game consoles. Do you think that there isn't any coincident that MS just bought a studio for one IP for that much money and announcing Windows 10 is coming to PC and XB1 in a panel that features Phil Spencer in January?
If they fully transitioned all their games to work on PC then what would be the point of owning an Xbox? That sort of move sounds like they would have plans to eventually stop making consoles.
Cost.. i thought most console players don't like PC because you need to spend 700 or so to build a good one for gaming. That won't stop people buying consoles, it just means you'd get a better experience on PC if you can afford it, like it has always been.
I think if they do such feature, you would require to own the console to get the benefit. That in my opinion would sell units. Allowing you to access your console/games through your computer would be an amazing feature.
Well software is where the margin is at least, and nadella has decided to mention gaming in every single presentation he gives, yet gaming is not apart of msft productivity core, so i bet you will be able to play any xbox one aaa games on windows10 device including pc eventually. That fits well into minecraft, where games are just nothing more than software with high margins for the sellers. Thats a bigger reason for the fire sales.
My guess is it would be a much smaller ecosystem if cross buy was enabled. Smaller indie titles would make sense to be playable on Windows phone, PC and Xbox. It would be harder to make retail games cross buy since the platforms are separate divisions within the company.
They are in this to sell software and services. If xboxOS ran on PCs their installed base would grow exponentially overnight, along with their software and service sales.
I think you have it backwards. Ms doesn't make Pc's. they make xboxes. I think maybe they are going to try to get more PC titles on Xbox one, indies, a few PC AAA titles,etc.. and MAYBE get SELECT Xbox titles to be on PC. But they wouldn't just shoot themselves in the foot by making it POINTLESS to own an Xbox one. You wish!
hmmmm that would be awesome!!!! sort of like how the ps4 and vita have crossbuy crossplay but it will include pc!!! yes microsoft is catching up!!!!!!! now if we could get some more exclusive reveals to shut down all this sony hype!!!!
You guys are thinking too big lol. My guess is a new Minecraft.
Just sounds like the kind of feature that would harm the Xbox one hardware, and promote less exclusivity, and more PC based games. Not sure if that's killer feature. A nice feature, for Microsoft in general, but perhaps not for the XBOX brand specifically. Cross-buy PS4 / Vita has more use in my opinion, since it lets you play the PS4 games on a portable system, but XBOX ONE / PC would share a similar purpose, seems like most consumers would have either a high-end PC for their games, or an XBOX ONE. And if they did possess a high end PC, it seems unlikely they'd want to play the XBOX ONE versions anyway? I don't think it will be this, since it's just not that appealing a feature. Perhaps an announcement of a new exclusive to PC / XBOX ONE? They did say they would 'make amends' for the SSFV thing.
What if the "make Amends" for the SSFV thing involve the ability of Windows 10 PC games to also run on XB1...ie SSFV?
Games that take advantage of this would have to target Xbox SDK specs, so it wouldn't harm exclusivity. Also, you forget about the tablet PC, which is a major focus of Win10. Being able to play xboxOne games on the go would be a killer feature with out a doubt.
and performance wise how are they going to run on a tablet PC? None of these games run within a cloud, even on X1. Might work for less intensive games like the PS4 does with the Vita, but not exactly a killer application I must say. And what are you on about, target XSDK specs? They would have to use the XBOX SDK for the xbox one yes, but not for PC. The Xbox SDK wouldn't even make sense on PC as it wouldn't accommodate the variance in architecture. Plus, if the PC versions did target XBOX ONE performance, where would the appeal be there?
Don't care for 3D. But I would like to see what he has in mind this January.
Please let it be KI for PC!
Looking forward to this! Sounds promising.
Hopefully a sneak preview of their unrevealed games like Scalebound, Crackdown, and/or Phantom Dust.
Killer Instinct and Sunset Overdrive PC Ports please.
Killer Instinct, maybe. Sunset Overdrive, you may be waiting a while.
If Microsoft brings all their X1 exclusives to PC, then what's the point of having a X1?
Whats the point of consoles in this time anyway? Today its possible to connect a PC with a big TV, I use my PC basically like a console often.
What's the point of having a PC when we could all just play in the cloud? Let's face reality, different people like different price points, ecosystems, human computer interfaces and levels of accessibility. Hence the natural variance in preferences across platforms to play games in. Anyone trying to claim any one as objectively superior, and the others has pointless is viewing the scenario with a substantial amount of ignorance and bias. I prefer to play on consoles, but I would never purport to tell people that my console was definitively better, and there system of choice was pointless. There are merits to all, but at this moment in time the PS4 best facilitates my preferences.
I've never associated PC's with gaming. I use my PC for work and my consoles for games. I think that's how the majority of console gamers are but I could be wrong.
It's hysterical how many people want XB1 games, but constantly talk about refusing to buy one. If you own a PC, then obviously all your multi-plats are bought on the best hardware. So you bought your Wii U for exclusives and your PS4 for exclusives, but you refuse to buy an XB1 for exclusives. .....Keep fighting the good fight there kiddo.
I did not buy a WiiU or a PS4 either ^^ Was mainly a Playstation gamer in the past because their consoles got a ton of exclusive games including many by third party publishers but the time changed for me. My favourite game series like Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, and even King of Fighters are all available for PC now and it looks like Tekken might follow as well next year. I don't buy a $300 or $400 Hardware for only 5-10 exclusive games when there are so many available for PC. I can life without consoles already :-)
@Hoffman You post on Dtoid, stupid. So explain to us, how did you get so much hands-on time with these PS4 and Wii U exclusives you so often praise, if you don't own them? WAIT! LET ME GUESS. Your "friends" have them and you play em' from time to time, huh? What a joke. You know you're a fanboy when you literally lie on forums to anonymous people. So......like I said, keep fighting that good fight.
I agree. What makes MS worse than Sony or Nintendo? They make games just as good and just as fun. So if people want to play their games, buy their system.
Cross dressing xbox sounds hot Phil I loved you in the young doctors.
jesus all these port beggars, just buy an xbox one and stop whining. my guess though is it has to do with win10 connecting xbox-pc some way, if that leaked screenshot is any indication.
I know right? "Dur, I hate Microsoft and Xbox One, but I sure do want to play all those exclusives on my PC DUUR"
PC gamers don't want to buy consoles because most games are sub 1080p (which isn't great but not too bad) and 30 FPS. (Which is much worse) People are willing to spend tons of money on PCs because there are much more options. Don't like 30FPS? Well tough, that's what you get on a console these days. What really irritates me is that console gamers are content with sub 1080p 30FPS! Why do console gamers have these sub par standards? Also, I don't really care what people play on. You are allowed to do whatever you want and play whatever you want. I wouldn't really care about consoles myself as long as it doesn't affect me or want I play on, but it does. The console market has had such a negative affect on the PC market. The PC isn't so much as an afterthought now except from a few devs. CD Projeckt Red and Monolith to name a couple. Crappy Ports, having to wait months on end for PC ports (Dark Souls II, GTA V looking at you) It's ridiculous.
The announcement will involve cross play between the PC and X1. The next major X1 update is rumored to have a Win10 kernel. It won't allow PC players to play XBox 1 games, but many games already come out on PC as well.
It will be interesting to see how they translate from the esram to vram.
Its clearly Win 10 related in terms of this Jan. Game and any VR dev announcement will come during GDC and E3.
I'd like to see game streaming to my WP. The crossplay thing sounds amazing if true, although let's be honest we don't buy high-end PC's just to play locked graphics at 30fps, it would look horrible on a decent monitor. Still, would not complain about having my entire libary available to PC.
Microsoft exclusives like Halo and Gears of War will always be only playable on x box. We know Windows 10 and directx12 are coming for x box 1 and PC. It probably means any third party game in the future can be easily ported from one to the next-if the devs wished. I read somewhere may be wrong on this, but they ported Forza to PC in a week using directx12 thats phenomenal. Phil i believe is looking for studios to create more story driven games, he said he wants to see it happen. x box future is bright and can't wait for E3 i think its going to be amazing.
Correct on the porting of Forza5. That is more for developers though. I suspect most cross play will involve those casual games and Indies you see on Windows8 and win8 phone. I guess it would also make sense to have games available on both systems on release, cross buy. But exclusives will remain exclusives. I personally am eager to hear more about what dx12 and windows10 will do for the performance of games on X1 and PC, if any thing at all. So that's where my focus is.
That will be indeed the case, so people shouldn't be shocked when third party games will be the leading platform on XB1. It will work along side PC and be the first choice to have the game up and running because of DX12.
Except for those 2 Halos and 1 Gears of War on PC...
With gfx-gate being a PR blow, a fix for that could be to connect a win10 pc to the x1 and magically get a boost in processing on the x1 games? I'll slap myself now for u. Doubt it's x1 games that work in a win10 cpu, I already have 4k what would be the point. Would be nice to make entire ms library available for purchase on win10 pcs.