Nintendo may not have dominated sales in 2014, but their games outshone their rivals to make the Wii U and 3DS the consoles to have.
"Nintendo may not have dominated sales in 2014, but their games outshone their rivals to make the Wii U and 3DS the consoles to have" If people felt it was THEE console to have more people would have bought it. Some of the pieces regarding Nintendo are coming off as a bit delusional lately. Nintendo fans didn't even buy Bayonetta.
Let me add, people obviously do feel this way about Nintendo's handhelds over the Vita.
I agree; customers are the ultimate judges and the judges have given their verdict against Wii U. Oh and what is up with all these articles in the past weeks praising Nintendo, declaring them the winner or telling people to buy their console/games. Either the NIntendo fans are in full gear or the Nintendo marketing machine is in the full gear. If they want to sell their consoles to customers then they will need to change and adapt to the modern gaming landscape. The gaming market has expanded exponentially since the 90s yet they are unable to expand and grow because of their stubbornness. Their home consoles only exists as a "me too" product with a relatively handful of fans as they keep trying to convince people to buy it. Nintendo does not makes what people want to play. They want people to play whatever they make. That is the sole reason of their fall from the position of the market leader. In the business world you need to keep changing and adapting with times. That is the basic rule of business strategic management.
If so, why do people always try to spin the original Wii into something bad? It sold over 100million times. People always try to make it seem bad.
Lol!!!!!!!!! I literally just got home from buying Bayonetta 2 (and 1!)!!!!!! Dude I like you you are frickin' funny!!!!!!!!
Great enjoy it, it's a great game. That doesn't change the fact it's one of the lowest selling titles of 2014. It's numbers are sadly embarrassing. It did under 75k it's first month in the US. It's under 200k worldwide. I posted the links to the numbers below.
"Nintendo fans didn't even buy Bayonetta" Its first 2 days outshone the first full week of the first game, and it's still getting sales steadily. And it hasn't even hit 6 months yet, which was around the time the first game stopped selling much. At this point its closing in on, if not already at, 400K, and by the mid point of next year it should hit that 1M goal. So do tell me, again, how has Bay 2 not sold to Nintendo fans? Heck, taking into account the historical fact that most of Platinum's games don't hit high numbers on top of the fact that the Wii U's install base is smaller, how has it sold bad at all? The maker of it even went out of their way to say thanks to Wii U owners for giving it such a warm welcome and for giving it such high recommendations again and again. If there's a faction that didn't buy it when they should have, it's the supposed "true fans" that bought the first game, but ditched the second for being a Nintendo exclusive. There were somewhere close to 2M of them. Where's THEIR contribution? I'll tell you where; its spent on another game. Because they didn't want to go multiconsole for the sake of following a series they loved. Their console preferences mattered more to them than the series despite the Wii U being so cheap. For the record, I bought the PS3 version years ago, and I also bought the combo pack of Bay 1 and 2 on Wii U, so I've done my part in spades. How many of those other "fans" can say the same? Edit: Neither of those sources are taking into account the digital and physical sales since then, and its first week in the US combined with its JPN release numbers totaled up to 300K or so. Black Friday has come and gone and Christmas is just around the corner; it's most definitely close to 400K by now, if not past it. Maybe look into it more?
Lol, it's no where near 400k. Don't quote VGchartz. Bayonetta 2 US NPD (68k) http://www.gonintendo.com/s... Bayonetta JP (38k) http://kotaku.com/bayonetta... Since, it has disappeared from all the charts. Make no mistake, I'm not happy about this. Bayonetta 2 Sold Through 67% Of Its Shipment (First week 38k From Media Crate) http://www.siliconera.com/2...
@DarkAstronaut. Your numbers unfortunately are no better than VGchartz. For the US the sales numbers were a "rumour". All your other figures relate to sales of Bayonetta in Japan were Bayonetta 1 (in spite of their being far more consoles out to play it on) didn't do well either. I'd also point out that you are missing the e-shop sales where many of us (myself included)purchased a copy. The "best" number at the moment is VGChartz combined with the fact that even as a mature title, it topped the e-shop sales. Bayonetta 2 is likely on track to half a million in sales, which isn't bad for a mature game with only 7MM consoles in the field.
Lol I had to hunt my copy down lol!!!! One more thing in and around my town there is very little Wii U software available! There's hundred's of Xbox One and PS4 video games readily available! In my local Wal Mart they had next to no Wii U video games and I started thinking do these guys know something I don't lol! I thought either the Wii U is getting discontinued by Nintendo or Nintendo is is starting to gain some momentum!! Lol! I just didn't know which!!!!! Before the Wii U was released I saw great potential for it. I used to say,"The Wii U is going to be hUge lol!!! I also keep saying ad nauseum that the least powerful and the least expensive console ALWAYS wins it respective generation lol!!!! I know it's only my town but... Which is it??? Is the Wii U actually heading towards the light loll!!!!!!! Or is it crashing and burning??? All I know is I love mine!!!! Christmas day I get to finally open up my copy of Super Smash Bros. and Bayonetta 2 then either way the party's gonna start for me lol!!!!! See you on Miiverse and I pray I get to Smash each and every one of you!!!!! Excelsior!!! No wait... Go Nintendo!!!!!! I have a radical idea for an Amiibo!!! Remember the e3 when Shigeru Miyamoto came out brandishing a Master Sword and he did all those heroic poses????????? I'd love a life size Amiibo of that lol!!!!! What a beautiful day!!!!!!! I laughed! I cried! I cheered and was never soooooo happy to be a fan of Nintendo!!!! Awesome!!!! People! This is where the fun has been hiding!!!! GO NINTENDO!!!!!!!!!
"Lol, it's no where near 400k. Don't quote VGchartz. Bayonetta 2 US NPD (68k) http://www.gonintendo.com/s... Bayonetta JP (28k) http://kotaku.com/bayonetta... " Both of those articles you linked to are labelled "Rumour". "Don't quote VGchartz."
This is an opinion piece, it expresses the author's opinion that it was the console to have. I kind of agree. The only thing on PS4 i was truly in love with was LBP3. Everything else was decent to mediocre. I cant speak for the xbone as i dont own it. But on Wii U we had DKCTF, MK8, Bayonetta 2, Smash.. even little games like Capt. Toad, Hyrule warriors or NES Remix were pretty good.
I know it's not an exclusive, but have you tried Shadow of Mordor? It's a very good blend of LotR, Arkham Batman and Assassin's Creed. It's also not broken and buggy lol. I personally love it so if you have a PS4 or even an XB1 to play it on I'd definitely recommend it. :)
Well I think a lot of people, "journalists" especially still seem to think the quality of games is better not necessarily the sales figures. It is a lot of fun, with more to come. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Wonder when are we going to get numbers of Bayonetta 2, Driveclub and Sunset Overdrive in the United States. Those 70K units are claimed by a single user in NeoGAF (a reliable one, but still...).
So according to your dumb logic, last gens Wii was THEE console to have? Many would disagree with you, Ps3 and Xbox 360 was THEE consoles to have last gen even though they didnt sell as much as the Wii, they had the better games. Sales and hype doesnt equal quality. You can't play sales but you can play quality games and as a gamer, the games will always be more important than sales and this gen so far Wii U has the best quality and highly rated games.
I'd have to respectfully disagree with you. The reason being, the best selling console is usally the one that appeals most to the average consumer. Look at the Wii. It appealed to consumers well and sold like crazy even though it clearly wasn't the best console on the market. This time around the Wii U doesn't have that same appeal but if you go by the quality and ratings of their games the system seems to offer what some would argue as a better or higher quality gaming experience. I will say this though, when it comes to variety of gaming the Wii U is very lacking. No sports games, no big open world games (cept Lego city Stories a lego like GTA) and very few shooters. For now at least.
So Nintendo had two highly rated game in 2014 and a few others and supossedly they conquered 2014? What about the over 100 games that werent on the wii u or 3ds and a lot more coming out next year that will not be on any Nintendo consoles. As a single console owner and core gamer, i would never choose to buy a Nintendo console because there are always a lot of gaming drought on Nintendo consoles where youll go months or even a year for something highly rated or good to play. A lot of Nintendo fans like to disagree with the truth but are multiconsole owners so they can weather the droughts on Nintendo consoles because they are gaming on consoles with better gaming support often times.
Dude!!! You're funny also!!!!! Just remember the least expensive and least powerful home video game console ALWAYS wins it respective generation!!!! Keep that mind you funny little treasure troll!!!!!! On a lighter not at Target this evening I saw a weird looking dude buying an Xbox One lol!!!! With Kinect!!!!!!! I literally crossed myself the only thing that piece of junk is Kinected to is the bargain bin! Another one of the many failures of Microsoft's Xbox brand!!!
Defending your brand: Fine, Pointless jabs at another console: Lame Why even bring the Xbox up?
Using that many exclamation marks is not only annoying , but is also extremely immature. Are you 10 years old? It sure seems like it to me. Wii u is a great console and games like smash brother's are extremely fun. However, the ps4 and xbox one is pushing out a far wider variety games than the wii u in 2015 (second year), especially the ps4. 2015 is the wii u's 3rd year. Nintendo seems to be pumping out sequel after sequel for games like zelda, mario, donkey kong, etc. It's just platformer after platformer... I need games like uncharted, TlOU, quantum break, bloodborne, etc. Then play smash brothers for a change of pace.
As a single console owner and core gamer, you really should come to the realization that you are letting your console pride get in the way of owning and experiencing a much wider variety of excellent games. Take off the console war solder fatigues and start saving up for a second console, and stop making incorrect presumptions about a console you don't even OWN. During the Wii U's first year and a half, btw, I didn't even have a need to touch my PS3. It kept me entertained just fine.
Good for you. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case for anywhere near the majority. For myself, there aren't enough current and upcoming games for me to justify a purchase; has nothing to do with saving up or any such nonsense. For others, they may only wish to get one console right now, and knowing the third party franchises they like will be passing on the Wii U will discourage them from buying that console. A problem with articles like this is when the author says the games made the Wii U the console to have, yet sales didn't bear that out. I MAY get a Wii U before Xenoblade comes out, but it's not a priority. It's fine if you prefer the console, but I've noticed Nintendo fans seem to pretend any evidence that points to the Wii U or its games NOT being the best thing on the market pretty much just get ignored. I mean, it's all well and good that Bayo2 is doing better than the original, but that's not really saying much, is it?
I prefer pc gaming first and console gaming second. Ps4 is the best console and thats why its selling the most now. Wii u sales are horrible not because its an amazing console but because people dont consider it a good console or investment. The wii u cant even do half if what a ps4 can do or will do in the future but its price is so close to the ps4s price. People can debate quality of games but history proves that Playstation always have the most and highly rated exclusive titles. I dont need or want to play all games or all exclusives for each gaming console. I can do without certain experiences. I have a lot of responsibilities in life and value a lot of things that have nothing to do with gaming. Gaming is a hobby i enjoy but dont need to game all the time. I'd love all games to be available on the pc but it isnt so, so i bought the ps4 which is the most powerful console on earth and has the most games available for it and will have the most and highly rated exclusives for it. Some will prefer other things which are fine and certain consoles fit others more than other consoles. To each their own People can deny it all they want but ps4 is the best console for core gamers. It doesn't mean that people can't prefer xbox one or wii u or the atari 2600. Ps4 has so many good atributes over the other consoles that makes it better and a knowledgeable person would know that. Im not listing them because no matter what is said a fanatical contrarian will disagree.
Question: If you favour PC gaming then what makes the PS4 the best console? A lot of it's games can be found elsewhere, including the PC. Unless you really like Shadowfall and Second Son, im just curious as to why would a PS4 make the better companion console to a PC gamer? I myself am a PC gamer and my main console is the WiiU because of it's exclusives and general awesomeness which i can't get anywhere else. Plus, the day i have to pay to play online is the day i stop playing online all together. @Kwandar Well Said +1
If you're using a PC for gaming, you mean .. you bought a PS4 to play the "maybe" two exclusives worth playing on it? Seriously? The PS4 may be the "most powerful console on earth" but it is a piece of crap next to a good PC.
I take it we have a Justin bieber and britney spears fan here, Yh they sell the most so they must be the best. Lol what are you? An idiot with a stupid logic. Sales doesnt dictate the quality of something
I'd have to say just from a quality perspective, their games were the best this year.
Now somebody's talking some sense!!!! Nintendo is the only home video game console manufacturer that is mainly responsible for the video game content on it's devices!!!! Why do the the PS4 and Xbox One look the same? Why are the controllers very similar? Why is the tech similar??? To make it easier for (lazy) third partys because with out them both consoles would cease to exist! You want to talk about waiting for anticipated software lol!!! You'd wait years for a PS4 or a Microsoft first party video game to be finished! Not half finished a fully playable piece of video game software from them might take lol!!!! Decades!! Personally I think both companys are actually incapable of accomplishing such a feat!!!!!!!! Now flip the coin. Nintendo's controller is radically different. The Wii U's tech is radically different why? Because Nintendo doesn't have to get on their knees and kiss EA'S. Sony and Microft do. People think the Wii U is under powered but I think every piece of video game software Nintendo has released for the Wii U has looked great, controlled extremely well and has been complete and extremely fun to play! Remember when people used to say the Wii U isn' a true next gen console? I actually think it's the other way around Microsoft and Sony two giant dinosaur's stuck in the mud fighting to the death!
Keep believing 32gb hard drives and old technology is next gen! Use as many exclamation marks as you can! Be in denial!
Wii U is the winner to me, at least.
So being handily destroyed by Sony and Microsoft is "conquered 2014" eh? Counting up the sales numbers is the only way to measure success when a company is selling a tangible piece of hardware. The fact that WiiU sales were terrible means that their games did not in fact outshine their rivals. The fact that the WiiU sold so poorly is clear evidence that it was not the "console to have."
Nintendo fans judge Nintendo console's success by Nintendo's profits and "fun." Sales, customer base and developer support do not matter to them. I wonder how they define and quantify this "fun" they often talk about that can supposedly only be offered by Nintendo.
"handily destroyed" Says the person that only looks at sales graphics and specs, instead of profits, ratings, and growing positive opinion towards the system itself, especially from the indies. It came out on top in E3 this year and their Zelda special at the VGA's got more attention than the whole of Sony's Playstation Experience did.[there's an article about that somewhere out there, too, if you wanna search for evidence] Sales are only one factor; they never tell the whole tale. Wii U's not doing as bad as people want to pretend it is.
Here come the profits... :/ Who the hell gives a damn about Nintendo's profits? Do we gamers get a share of them? Sales are what matter! PS4 never would have gotten SFV as exclusive it weren't for the sales. Xbox 360 never would have been able to take away several Playstation exclusives last gen if it werent for the sales. Developers DO NOT waste their money on a poorly selling console and as a result, the gamer who owns that console does not gets any games to play. Just like in the case of the Wii U. Has the Wii U got Dragon Age Inquisition? Metal Gear? Destiny? Witcher? Final Fantasy? Tomb Raider? Nope! That is why hardware sales are important for a gamer and not Nintendo's profits. The Wii U has been selling horribly. It sold 3 million in launch window but it has not been able to reach 10 million in TWO WHOLE years! It got surpassed by two rivals that launched a whole year later in a less than a year! How is that not doing bad? It is the worst sales performance in home console history!
Hah - Who cares about the sales? Do we gamers get a share of them? Lets be honest here. Profits matter. Sony is on its last legs and could be broken up at any point. If they are broken up, who is buying the gaming unit? Microsoft or Nintendo? Microsoft is rumoured to have lost billions in this space, although admittedly they can afford it. But shareholders are itching for them to dump it. Who are they selling to? Well duh, Nintendo, because Sony can't afford to buy. Profits matter.
Lol Nintendo only "won" the VGAs. This was ONLY because Sony didn't show their Uncharted 4 premiere there. If they showed it that night, no one would have cared about Zelda. The Wii U does have some quality exclusives now, but it took two years to get any. The Ps4/One had a MUCH better first year in both sales and number of quality games. From what we know so far, Sony and M$ are releasing a LOT more quality exclusives next year than Nintendo is. Heck I think Sony has more games coming out that first half than the Wii U does all year. Nintendo has no clue what they're doing anymore. They're stuck in the past. The only people who think they're doing great are their blind fanboys who refuse even try a Sony/M$ console. Sales show this. Unless Nintendo does a 180 with their next console they'll become a third party or handheld only dev.
I love Sony and I think the Wii U is a great console. Come at me bro. >:p
Nintendo came out on top at e3? I feel bad for Nintendo owners if all they have to look forward to is zelda. Probably the same people who watch the same movie over and over again. And you're definitely wrong on the sales of the WeeU. It wont even reach 25 million. No soccer moms this time
Hey firelogic! What'cha plaaayin? The sales of a games are the not the be all and all of what makes a game or a console fun. Mario Kart Wii sold more than the entirety of the Uncharted franchise. 35.5MILLION! HOLY BALLS..If they made just $30 from each game sold it would be $1,065,000,000 http://youtu.be/pjnZO5ZgWE8 ... I know right Guess that means the original Wii is better to have than a PS3 AND a PS4, no questions asked. It has the higher selling game series after all! You see, with that line of thinking - how your logic just goes up in smokes? http://youtu.be/HFlkzfO5394
Im so glad the WeeU failed. Its no surprise that nintendo is already working on a new system. Hopefully they learned their mistakes and instead of trying to come out with the cheap new fad hopefully they give us hardcore gamers a reason to buy the next nintendo console. And can we stop comparing the 3ds with consoles? Its bad enough the wii was compared to the ps3/360 and the weeU is for some reason compared to the ps4/one but now I see articles mentioning the 3ds??? Hopefully Nintendo does what sega does an just make games. Could you imagine zelda on the ps4? I dont wanna play it with last gen graphics on the weeU, I'd rather player skyrim.
Yes we know you hate Nintendo, that doesn't mean you need to share the hate with all of N4G on every article pretaining to the WiiU.
The graphics are going to contain art style, by that, I mean cartoony, realism doesnt play a lot on their games besides metroid. Also Nintendo is better off with themselves maintaining control, the new system wont be out until the wii u completes its cycle, and also, I rather play Xenoblade Chronicles X or Zelda U than that broken mess being skyrim
Still a terrible console and no matter how much they defend it. The Wii u is dying a slow death.
Maybe in your dreams. I'd seriously like to chat with you after Sony get's divided up and sold cheap believe me guy no matter how many PS4's Sony sells the clock is ticking! There all done. Sony the pretender. Did you know the Playstation started life as a cd add on for the SNES? Lol! They had their day but it's all gone. Do you remember who kicked Sony's ass last generation? The triple core hd wonder machine got bent over and slammed by a sd toy two Game Cube's duct taped together damn that's got to be embarassing! What's got to be very, very embarassing is Sony then stole the idea and fumbled the ball and showed how pathetic they really are. Is that why you're so bitter? Bitter enough to go to a positive Nintendo article and talk your bs and try to rain on our parade your sad man I feel so sorry for you I really do. Seriously though what's with the whole "we' thing you got going? Lol. We're getting that dlc, we're getting a free game! We, we, we, we. I don't understand the hive mentality. I really don't care what sytem someone plays video games on it's just that you must come here and try to make me feel bad about the system I play on. It's dumb.
You say the wii, whos success weighed heavily on soccer moms kicked the ps3s ass? Ps3 only lost by 15-20 million units sold despite being DOUBLE the price in retail and even more in manufacturing costs becuase the wiis hardware was disgusting stinky garbage. Half the price at launch, mom/casual gamer crowd you would think the wii would have as you put it kicked Sony's ass, but they only have a 15 million lead? 100 million to 85 million. Thats not considering the wii should be compared to the ps2 in which it gets crushed lol i remember one game came out on both the wii and psp and the psp version had better graphics lol. And yes I do want to make you feel bad for buying that crap. I hate to say it, but when people like you buy crap then we get crap for the future. Im the biggest sony fan, i probably wont get an xbone until gears of war but ill bet money ill get the next xbox day one. Now that sony brought thier A game this gen, xbox will next gen. Thats what competition does. I hate M$ and despise their business tactics but im predicting the next xbox will be earth AMAZING. Now that the weeU is a failure we might get a good console from Nintendo that doesn't advertise to my kids. Like i said, I want a real resident evil on a Nintendo console, i want Nintendo back in the game but as long people buy their junk theyll produce junk. Business 101
I have as much interest in you and the wii u as ea does.
Nintendo are an amazing company. I can clearly see that Nintendo will once again revolutionize the gaming industry. Way to go Nintendo. I look forward to playing Zelda Wii U when it comes out.
Zelda and then mario. Zelda and then mario.zelda and then mario. Doesn't that get old
Why do you keep crying in Nintendo articles? If anything is getting old it's your comments.
To fully know Nintendo is to know their entire history. Of course, I don't know everything about Nintendo. But what I do know is starting from the 80's Nintendo were very new to the 3d era which set them back a bit since all they knew how to make is spite based game. So, they had to start at the bottom while most devs successfully excel in other 3d technique/game development. Today, that's all about to change for Nintendo. They've grown a lot. They spent entire decade trying to catch up with the big dogs. I have faith in them that they will shows us all what game making is all about. http://www.thefreelibrary.c...
Shooters and gore. Sports and empty open worlds. Overhyped then not delivering. Doesn't your hypocrisy ever get old?
Nintendo!! Just keep making awesome games and here......take my money!!!
Nintendo fans site Wii sales during the past generation as being the reason it "won" the last gen. All of the sudden, sales of this gen don't matter. Funny how that works. Nintendo is an amazing company that created some of the best games and has introduced revolutionary hardware. That said, Wii U is hardly selling well. This is not an indictment. It is a fact. Nintendo might make great games but those games aren't selling new consoles.
It did win the last generation - for about .. ohh .. 2 years? Then the wheels fell off, and I was on a PS3 as were many others (who weren't on an Xbox). I'd also point out that the PS3 was the dog those first two years. The worm can turn :)
Nintendo's being praised this year because Wii U's gradually built up a worthwhile amount of games that people feel justify owning the console for nowadays. Nintendo's always had a history of generally releasing well made, fun games with broad appeal. Wii U's a doomed console sales-wise (no question about it), but it is a winner in terms of its growing list of good exclusives that add perceived value to the platform, and by the looks of it ,2015 will potentially be even better year for it. Of course, it helped that Nintendo also did a good job at E3 this year despite not having a traditional press conference. It's completely understandable if people don't care for Wii U because it is only a Nintendo box with the worst amount of third party support ever. It's fine if people don't think Wii U is worth owning a primary platform, but it does ideally make for an excellent companion console to PS4/Xbox One or PC because the games are pretty different from what you'll experience on the other platforms that are far more similar overall.
You guys should of been there during the SNES days. That's when Nintendo had 1st and 3rd party covered.
Yes, SNES was a glorious console, but the problem with this is Nintendo treated third parties like crap with its strict policies in order to get what it wanted and no other competitor was around until PlayStation came to provide third parties with an escape from Nintendo's grasp. A lot of people still think the Nintendo Seal of Quality was just a good thing, but it had a negative impact on third parties too. Sega Genesis was not a very strong competitor to the SNES in all but Europe.
Food for thought: We had a lot fewer instances of games being overhyped and never living up to it, back when third parties were being "treated like crap". Let that sink in for a while.
I am still playing my favorite Super Nes games. Favorite console...
Just beat Super Metroid for the millionth time 10 minutes ago.
Meh, conquered, not in my house. I bought all the big N console Wiiu titles for my daughter, as she loves em, & I played around with them but they did not keep my interests. The Nintendo stuff doesn't appeal to my tastes anymore, so I am fine with the Xbox & Playstation. Had a PSP, now have a Vita, Did not really like the DS, or 3DS, but there is no denying, Nintendo's games quality are 2nd to none. There is no way the Wiiu will survive on Nintendo games only, but there have been rumors they are working on its replacement.
I'm so sick of these Nintendo apologise. The only thing Nintendo conquered is LAST PLACE. Make some new ip's that don't include Mario.......Kratos please chop this overworked plumbers HEAD CLEAN OFF. Mario's a classic but........GIVE HIM A BREAK.
He should go on holiday with Kratos..
Mario Maker is the only Mario game coming out. Splatoon and STEAM are new IPs. :U
Good system, fun controller for a console generation. I am hoping to get my copy of Bayonetta for Christmas, so +1 sales there. I think sales will for the game will see a bump over the holidays. Smash is already huge, Id say that was a pretty good undeniable win for Nintendo. If they keep selling at a slow steady pace for the lifespan of the WiiU, they could still sell well enough.
I just hope Bayonetta sequel looks a lot better, because part 2 looked like part 1 minus the designs. I'm not asking for arkham knight from arkham city type of graphics but somewhere in between.
As far as exclusives ... Wii U wins imo for 2014. Unfortunately ... the games that are not exclusives (which is the vast majority of games) don't exist on Wii U ... and that is a pre-requisite for best console. You got to have 95% to full third party support from the 3rd party companies. The Wii U has to have a companion system like XB1, PS4 or gaming PC to be complete imo. Heck ... Wii U isn't even enough if you are just a Nintendo fan. You need the 3DS as well for the full Nintendo experience. I myself now own a Wii U, 3DS XL and a PS4. Very solid combo that gives me 99% of everything I want.