Slade, moderator back at the GT forums, is reporting that one of those "not listed" FW 2.40 features is full Backwards Compatibility. He reports that Mana Khemia was previously unplayable, but now is.
I don't think it's 100% just now. Sony said they improve it over time, so maybe that was just the next one on their list or a nice side effect from fixing another game. EDIT: Before I look like a fool - the title first said "100% BC", so that's were my statement comes from.
Indeed, it could be that they've just added that features for future use...just like the youtube uploading feature. It wasn't official revealed although it was included in one of those earlier firmware. (if i remember well, it was 2.20)
Because 80 GB models had BC, just like 85-90% or something. A more appropriate title would be "Improved Backwards Compatibility?" I definitely know they do little updates here and there to improve compatibility with all titles, PS2 included. In any event, if they got any model (besides the 60 GB of course) to hit 100% BC than they wouldn't keep that under the radar. Considering the overall negativity people had with Sony's decision to reduce/remove BC, you can bet that would be a feature they made visible. The new store layout (that was included in 2.40 where you hit square to put content in list form) is a small one they didn't even bother to list. I could pretty much guarantee that you would hear "In Game XMB, Trophy Support, and now Full BC on older models" shouted from every journalistic rooftop if it were true.
ill see right now. the only game that dosnt play on my ps3 is scarface, it plays but its like in slow motion for some reason. ill check if it works right now. EDIT: nope still slow, it might be just my game though.
However, sony DID say they were working on it for ALL ps3 models and would indeed put it in a firmware update. I'm not sure if they put it in THIS firmware (2.40) update though
As far as I know, the 80GB model already does software emulation for PS2 titles. That means that if they intended for the 40GB to have the same functionality, they'd probably have patched it in already. This is why I don't think there's going to be PS2 titles on the store. They sell a lot more 40GBs than they sell 80GBs, and if they're not adding backwards compatibility for the model they sell more of, it'll flop hard. Then again, I don't know any of this to be fact. :P
The 80GB uses software emulation AND PS2 hardware. The 40GB does not have this hardware and thus emulation of PS2 titles on that system will be more limited (if ever). I do believe SONY will have limited BC for the 40GB as it shoots them in the foot not to be able sell all that content on the PSN.
Sony increase PS2 b/c in most firmwares for the PAL 60GBs and Euro 80GBs
YES! I've had Mana Khemia since it came out and haven't been able to play it. If this makes it playable, then I must shower Sony with praise! (I've already contacted them numerous times just to tell them that I specifically want to be able to play that game, haha)
lol, at first i thought the title was wrong and was meant to say, "Did 2.4 add B/C to 40GB models?"
they definitely improved the BC! i own the european 60gb model (its the same liek the us 80gb concerning the BD) and i tried to play MANHUNT a few seconds ago! it didnt work until today! now it works like a charm. awesome update, sony!
Didn't the 80GB PS3 already have backwards compatibility??? The only PS3 to not have BC was the 40Gig.
IF you read the article, you would realize that they are talking about titles that were previously unplayable on the 80GB that have now become playable.
I can confirm that naruto ultimate ninja 3 now correctly works on my 80 gig. It used to freeze during the movies and now it doesn't. Thank you sony!
... As soon as i saw this thread, i ran to test it out. I tested all the PS2 i games i currently have (don't have as much as i used but anyway), and the only game that didn't work was Hitman : Blood Money! ... but ALAS ... A few minutes ago, i slot this baby into my 80gb .. and taddaaaaa ... its working to my surprise. Great work sony :} ... now pls release more patches for trophies and fix in game music ... thank you :}
almost everything was already b/c with 80gig??
80+% for the 80gb and 90+% for the 60/20gb PS3's.
I think they have been giving improvements for some time. Many of my PS2 games play better than they did when i first got the system.
I think they added some for both 80 and 60 gig cause now im able to play King of Fighters XI on my 60 gig and it was unplayable as of 3 days ago. Great update indeed now back to work!
Each update they add more support for older titles. If you search the compat page: http://www.us.playstation.c... It will tell you what firmware version added support for that title (and what problems a title might have).
I'd rather have that instead of emulation... what am I saing, mine is a 1st gen 60 GB model... I DO have that instead of emulation...
I've had really good luck with my old PS2 games (especially SOTC).
And they're probably halting production of the PS2 in late 2009. It's just more cost effective to continuously improve the software BC. I know they're aiming to make the PS3 fully compatible with PS2 titles in the near future (all through software) but it is a big hurdle since the PS2 has ED-RAM and the PS3 doesn't. They're probably doing something clever with Cell's internal bandwidth to overcome that.
That's all I've ever wanted to know...
If they were to have improved backwards compatibility I'm sure they would have listed it as a feature in the firmware as it is a big deal to lots of people, not to mention a selling point for the PS3. however I don't particularly care, all my PS2 games work on my 80gig.
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