Sony's in a much better place with the PlayStation brand than they were two years ago. A crossover fighter makes more sense now than it ever has.
Give me an 8-bit hideous Battle Arena Toshinden character please. :D That was my first brush with Sony.
PLEASE! BLAM The haters let/MAKE this happen ASAP! PSAS was one of my top 3 fav games of last gen. This game has the most active community on the Official PS Forums, such potentil will be lost you Sony does not do this. I have no qualms with The Coles and Dante I main them from day one and many would be upset if they didn't include the option for them. Just take some time and care into it and just do some work on securing the rights on popular characters (I understand the Crash and Spyro thing not Sony's fault). I know why alot of other popular characters didn't make it because of the abandonment of the title before the release of characters like Dart, Lightning, Cloud, Abe, Classic Dante costume, Sephiroth, and some others. So sad they never got to it, so so sad...
They should look at doing more with their roster of characters than a fighting game. Maybe make some sort of sports game or even a kart racer. Yeah i know it would be blatantly ripping off the likes of nintendo but hey...those games sell for nintendo so there is a good chance they would sell for sony. A kart racer with tracks taken from various PS games like jumping flash, wipeout, vib ribbon to name a few. Karts that are tailored to each racer. Like kratos could be riding in a chariot pulled by the steeds of time and ratchet and clank on a hover board or something. Just because it would be condoned as a mario kart clone does not mean it wouldnt appeal to playstation gamers of varying skill.
Hope they bring back raiden That's my boy But love psabr Still play it on vita a lot Lvl 999 raiden
I think it should have that sort-of thing that SSB Brawl had with the subspace emissary. Heroes fighting yet uniting to fight a unity of their villains only to find an entity that unites them all.
Well they just need to take their time and do it right this time 1) Characters we actually want...not ones picked to advertise their next game. If you can't the big ones like Crash. Spyro, Snake and Cloud/Squall/Zidine then don't do it. New Dante, Rising Raiden, Radec, Fat Princess, Big Daddy, TWO Coles, Heihachi...no one asked for them. 2) Scrap the "Only Supers Kill" system, it gets boring fast seeing the same Super animation over and over. They obviously did it to try and differ between Smash Bros...just have a health bar system and let us use Supers by smashing a floating PS logo 3) More modes 4) Better crafted menus, not something which looks cheap.
I second most of this.
"..not ones picked to advertise their next game." Sadly, I think this is up to the third party dev who is lending Sony their characters. More than likely those guys will want to promote their new game and not the old one. If Capcom has to give us the new Dante maybe later UNLOCK the option for the Old Dante palette swap. This seems reasonable. I would also like to see more older PS franchises and not so much recent 3rd party characters, like Jumping Flash, Legend of Dragoon, Loaded, Toshinden, Bloody Roar.
The characters were not chosen to advertise a game. They were only allowed to license a few of the characters. Most of the major characters are third party that were not lent to them for use.
New Dante - dmc reboot Big Daddy - Bioshock Infinite was coming out. Related to Infinite or not it's still Bioshock Rising Raiden - Same look as the one from MGR, not MGS4 version of Raiden or Raiden from MGS2, Rising Raiden was his main costume. They were picked to promote the new games.
Got new Dante instead of the old one. Got Raiden (not that I didn't enjoy him being in the game) instead of Snake. Those two where definitely for advertising purposes. Not that it was Sony's/SuperBot's fault, but it doesn't change the fact that those two characters were used to advertise their respective upcoming games.
You are missing the point. Sony would have preferred to use the original version of those third party characters. But the third parties only offered versions which would raise awareness for their new games. It that sense, yes they were advertisements. But Sony did not select them for that reason. That was just all they could get. The earlier post implies that Sony turned down Spyro and Crash for new Dante and big daddy (or the others). That's not true. They took what they could reasonably afford, and even then the game bombed which makes it tougher to aquire big names.
I agree with everything you said. And it's because of that, PSAS will never live up to it's FULL potential. Unless PSAS brings something new and innovative that revolutionizes the fighting/brawler genre, it'll always be seen as a game that is similar to _insert_game_here_ and lacking _characters_x,_y,_and_z_.
yeah definitely add a health bar system, no more only supes can kill, that was really my only problem with the game, Be able to kill in varied ways not just supes
Big Daddy was one of the coolest additions in All-stars. Never understand why people complained about that.
How about 1: Keep original cast and add upon it with more characters we want. 2: Re work the super system... Not scrap it. a) Super breakouts b) Super Reversals c) Super Clashes d) There is a lot they can do with the super system. adding health bars would be another way for people to cheese and lame out opponents. 3: More character customization other than full body costumes and a few color choices. 4: More game modes a) 1 v 1 b) 2 v 2 c) 2 v 2 Tag Multi (Where 4 players play in a 2 v 2 scenario with 1 v 1 being the focus but the ability to tag in your partner.) d) 2 v 2 Tag solo (Where 1 player chooses 2 characters and can swap between them.) e) Make free for all a fun game mode and not the FOCUS of the game. Do not make a ranked version unless combat is efficient to support a player skill based free for all. 5: ADD TIME LIMITS TO STOCK MATCHES! There is much more that can be said, this is just a few things that would be cool.
Why would you want to tweat the god awful super system, it's flawed and it's not fun.
That is very opinionated.
@foxTrot "Why would you want to tweat the god awful super system, it's flawed and it's not fun." gtfo god AWFUL SYSTEM MY a.. that system was good tbh it because as you got better with a character you would learn creative ways to use your specials to get kills and that took skills especially learning to escape certain specials that's what me and my friends love about it. i would like for them to add other modes and not scarp the old one.
Yes because seeing the same Supers over and over just to kill someone, the main point of these games, got boring and tedious. We just need a health system, what they offered in PSAS was basically something you would have in a custom made match Plus some characters Supers were better then others.
It does not need a health system... If they tune the super system into making better ways of fighting like i already gave examples for, a health system would be pointless and lame... You see the same supers in every fighting game (over and over) just to kill someone... just to let you know.
Eh..the more characters the merrier, especially the popular fan requested ones like Crash, but even if no one asked for the other ones you listed, most of them are fun as hell to play with. Raiden is boss. They need a proper online system or dedicated servers, I can hardly get in games on PS3 and they're preset to 3 minutes games only ?? that's lame. I still loved the first one simply because it was a blast to play with friends locally. 4 player couch play for days.
***"Characters we actually want...not ones picked to advertise their next game. If you can't the big ones like Crash. Spyro, Snake and Cloud/Squall/Zidine then don't do it."*** THIS!!! TIMES 100!!! If they can't get the most iconic characters then don't do it all. That's what makes this type of game appealing the most. Imagine if PSAS had Crash, Spyro, Cloud, Sora, Snake, Lara Croft, etc. the game's appeal would have been infinitely times better than it was just by the inclusion of those characters even if you didn't like the "Super-Kills Only" system or the lack of other game modes. When it comes to a cross over games the characters matter the most. Don't make it if you can't get the characters. I won't be buying any sequel unless Crash, Spyro, and Cloud are in it at the bare minimum.
Unlike the advantages that Nintendo enjoys by owning the vast majority of their big characters, Sony has to pay for the rights to all of those your just discussed. The cost to license all of those characters would have been astronomical and the game had to prove it was worth the investment. Unfortunately it wasn't because it bombed big time. Is that due to the character selection? Maybe. But regardless Sony could never have afforded the high cost of licensing all those third party characters.
I hope Sony does the sequel like J Stars Victory Versus https://www.youtube.com/wat...
No thank you. It would make more sense for them to expand upon the system that was already created... since it was already good. Just needs some more tuning.
As much as I am a devoted PlayStation fan and as much as I love the idea of this character mash ups like King of Fighter's, Fighter's MegaMix, Marvel vs Capcom, Dissidia Final Fantasy Power Stone 2 I am also a very hardline Sony critic and I call them out whenever they make bad decisions like how PSASBR final product came out. The game is okay and we are still Playing it but it could have been done a million times better. Sony should have taken a more original and creative route with PSASBR and not a Super Smash Brother clone and save itself from the bashing. Full 3D PSASBR should have came out as an original, ground breaking, innovative, festive, fun, celebration of PlayStation characters like J Stars is and not a sad, so-so, gloomy, uninspired, un-exciting, half baked, blasphemous microscopic, uninspired rendering of great characters from PlayStation history and culture. What a disservice! I am all for this kind of mashup as long as it is done right!
Well that's fine and dandy dude expressing your own opinion. But in reality PSASBR is a great game and can become even greater when or if they expand upon it. Here are a few questions. How relevant is J Stars compared to PSASBR? What was "original, ground breaking, innovative" about J Stars that PSASBR should have followed? What wasn't "festive, fun, celebration" oriented about psasbr? "Sony should have taken a more original and creative route with PSASBR" Should they have? Why? Where exactly did they go wrong? I mean could they have, yes. But should they have? No. It all worked out regardless. Things could have possibly been better yes, but were they guaranteed if they made other moves? no... therefor how on earth can you act like they actually made a bad move? The game is relevant, appreciated and the community wants more. It is cemented in the gaming community and it is known to be good. It is also known that it can be better when or if they expand upon it in a sequel. That is what matters. Cheers.
What I would really love is a fighting game with PlayStation characters but with similar gameplay like the Marvel vs Capcom fighting franchise. Edit: Since they are good buddy's with Capcom why not a Capcom VS PlayStation game?
That would be cool.
I loved the first game. Unpopular opinion time. I don't like the kill system in this OR Super Smash Bros. I want it to be more like Power Stone. Give us more moves, too. I want like Tekken level depth to the combo system. This is something most brawlers don't have.
heres hoping its....powerstone-esque....wou ldnt that be awesome!
Sorry to say my friend this is to awesome to exist in this life....That is indeed my fav party fight of all time.
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I enjoyed the first game very much but it was lacking staying power, just not a deep enough fighting system for me. It was however fun and i enjoyed the level designs and animations. @totsuko.... I hate turned based rpgs and enjoy action ones like Soul series so please Sony dont listen to that lol. Turn based rpgs are so boring imo.
ummmmmmmm.. no. glad yall liked it but its not my cup of tea. its good for the gamers tho i guess, would rather have a new IP.
I feel like a fighting game doesn't really fit into the whole Playstation Universe though. I think Sony should make a JRPG set in the Playstation Universe with all the characters playable. Make it turn-based or Action idc. I have always known playstation for their JRPG's and I think it is what made playstation such a big brand today.
I second this. No one cares for a fighting game with Sony characters. To add to that no one really cares for fighting games full stop. They aren't as appealing as they used to be since the decline of local multiplayer. They used to be the king of the multiplayer genre but not anymore. SF should be good enough for Sony in this department.
I mean I still think fighting games still have a big appeal. Obviously not as much because of shooters nowadays but there are still a good amount of core enthusiast for fighting games and I am one of them. As a fan of fighting games and playstation, a fighting game with Sony characters is not appealing at all, I agree with you on that. A crossover Rpg like Kingdom Hearts best fits a mold for a RPG cross-over for playstation. Make the game story or character driven based off the Playstation Universe, combat heavy, rpg mechanics that is fun and easily accessible but hard to master. Open world would be a plus. To me, that gives a great service to the brand of playstation and the characters.
Not until they get Crash back.
Playstation Allstars is a classic so a sequel is surly already in the works. All a sequel needs is to add to the roster from the first game, the gameplay is pretty much perfect already. If they added Crash Bandicoot , that alone would be enough for a sequel. Considering Sony and Capcom are so tight right now I think we'll be seeing a Sony vs Capcom game very soon as well.
All the game needs is crash bandicoot for a sequel... wat? That would be dlc, not a whole other 60 dollar game. And while the gameplay was fun, it was far from perfect. Kill confirms ruined the balance of all stars. The balance seemed good at first, until people realized just how easy it was to exploit certain characters.
They need more characters of their own before they can consider it really. Sony has a few, but not many.
They have so many that were not in All Stars what are you talking about.
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Just suck it up and fully clone SSB with a good character roster but cater the hardcore crowd instead of casuals like Nintendo is doing. Get the game to dominate EVO. Also, do Sony VS Capcom.
Nintendo is actually catering both the casuals and the hardcore in SSB. The learning curve of SSB is a lot deeper than you might think.
Do it! I loved all-stars. Could have used a bit more polish for presentation but it was loads of fun.
Needs more "All-Star" characters first. Give us Lara Croft, Cloud Strife, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, etc.
More characters that aren't Sony's?
The characters that you are talking about are now changed by the new companies they owned currently , Sony still has rights to the original classic designs , All these classic characters are originated to the PS brand , it doesn't matter who owns it right now or who the generator behind it , they can bring them back any day
My ten year old son is still obsessed with Battle Royale.
"You've been practicing!"
Unless they are willing to put the same amount of love an dedication Nintendo puts into Smash Bros then they should just stop now.
Playstation vs. Capcom.... just do it already
No one can beat SmashBros no one.
Unless someone had an equal budget for a fighter with the same amount of iconic characters. Though the new wiiu one looks hard to top
I had this great concept for PlayStation Allstars awhile ago, that was a short oversight Superbot made, lemme see if I can remember it... Oh yeah, so one day I was complaining (as I so often do) about why they didn't flush out the energy bubles meta-game they had for PlayStation Allstars. This was my concept for PlayStation Allstars 2.= The game should be centred around capturing that energy. It should be ringout like smash bros, but involve more fighting as the centred concept. So basically you start with full energy, and as you are hit the energy bubles get knocked out of you and slide along the floor, that's a problem, because the less full you are with energy, the lighter you become, so you have to scramble for the energy bubbles, or you'll get kicked out of the arena like Smash Bros. Also stealing enough of your opponents energy allows you to do different lvls of Supers. What'd ya think? There's more to it, like iterating on different fighting Genre like smash Bros iterated on the VFighter battle Arena model, such as UFC maybe wrestling, but that's the rough draft.
Definitely needs a sequel, the first one was a solid first attempt. Take out what didn't work, keep what did and improve on it. I would absolutely buy another one.
Imagine Dpny & Microsoft All-Stats Battle Royal. Never gonna happen but they could temporarily join forces to butt into SSB's domination. Crossplay would be sweet. Maybe add PC too with indie games. Hell, my fanboy is showing, just throw Nintendo in, too.
Totally agree, this is the game I got most people to play to in parties, this deserves a sequel with a lot more love
In my opinion, the Sony universe is more suited to make a fighting game like Marvel Vs. capcom 3, more serious; not a party fighting game like Smash. Just my opinion.
Adding to my last Comment, since the first PlayStation Allstars theyve added some great characters.=Kutoro from Puppeteer, Iota/Aota, the ghost from "Rain"(lol I could only imagine ), the beyond 2 souls Characters, Journey,Planetside characters, new LBP3 characters, Joel/Ellie/Infected, Kid from Rime, Space craft from Resogun, and all the characters mentioned in the article. It would be great to see a fighter with these characters.
No, it's time to make a new IP with a similar concept. You really don't want to make a sequel to this with the same name and everything. Besides, the main guy who worked on the game left to go work for LoL (this is GOOD news for PSASBR fans). Now when they make a new IP with a similar concept they can improve it a lot more since they don't have to worry about the guy who made the first one ruining the second game.
I honestly thought Zeus should have been in initial release. I also think they should have every God kratos kills. Nathan hale, knack, demon souls/bloodborne, original Dante, green guy from ratchet, obviously they could add tons of infamous characters. Sony has a lot of franchises were really the central character is the only good fighter. They could do last of us, a zombie and Joel. Maybe a few indie character now like outlast, warframe or maybe they can even get character from dc as they have dc biggest game dcuo.
They should make another, You can add Delson, Knack, Tearaway, The order guy, Bloodborne, Last of us characters.
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