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Spencer: Will Work On Making Amends For SFV, Uncharted 4 PSX Reveal Was Cool, E3/Gamescom Important

Phil Spencer congratulated Yoshida for SFV deal but stated that he will work on Amends (compensate or make up for a wrongdoing), having great E3 and GamesCom 2014 important for Microsoft and Uncharted 4: A Thief's End PlayStation Experience reveal was Cool.

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Cindy-rella1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

Isnt the next tomb raider exclusive for the xbox one? Also talking about having a xbox event like Playstation experience seems silly imo because they normally skip out on a bunch of gaming events due to lack of games to show. Sometimes they only attend e3 and skip out on everything else.

JohnathanACE1018d ago

Yep, and likely a timed one.

Septic1018d ago

Its been confirmed to be a timed one.

"Love the idea of game franchise bartering, I'll work on making amends for SF."

Hmm very interesting. I wonder what he has in the works.

True_Samurai1018d ago

It is timed most likely just for PC and not ps4. Since they're helping publishing, funding, and developing the game

darthv721018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

okay Phil. Go talk to Yu Suzuki and offer him a load of $$ to help develop Shenmue 3. And while you are at it...make it a deluxe edition which contains the 1st and 2nd installments remastered in HD as well. PS4 is getting Yakuza so they wont miss Shenmue.

Either that or pay to have the next Virtua Fighter developed exclusively for XB1 and PC with cross platform play. Or even better....get Sega and Namco to reach an agreement to make a VF x Tekken for XB1.

-Foxtrot1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

@Septic

"Hmm very interesting. I wonder what he has in the works."

Something which will probably just make this whole third party exclusive thing even worse...which we don't really need from either side.

@darthv72

You know what the sad thing is with the amount of money they have they could do that, they could of done it years ago.

Shenmue 3, Psychonauts 2, Prey 2, Timesplitters etc...games we've been waiting for years for and Microsoft could fund them.

Why o why1018d ago

Microsoft have too many quality dormant ip's to be worrying about countering Sony. . Why don't they awaken some of those first. I screamed for a crimson skies successor all gen. . I've heard many name games Microsoft have access to that they would want. The same could be said about Sony but it was Microsoft who used a minimalistic approach to output. . Any number of their ip's could of filled the last 3rd void

darthv721018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

@fox, true. but regardless of the outcome for shenmue 3 or time splitters for example....

I am really hoping Sega and Namco work on a VF x Tekken game. It just seems the perfect collaboration between the two teams.

IF MS wants to make amends with Capcom about SFV then funding a Capcom vs SNK3 or SVC Chaos 2 would be a great venture.

@why... crimson skies is a must. and who knows, they could be working on it as we speak. Quantum Redshift was a nice wipeout-esq racer that could be rebooted. They could also be looking at adding character from Tao Feng to the roster of KI or bringing back Tao Feng all together.

there are lots of dormant IP's like you said. Bloodwake being one of my favorites on the original xbox.

Illusive_Man1018d ago

Yea timed for PC.

Phil already said 1) they wanted their own Uncharted 2) they don't invest resources and money for games going to a competing platform.

Titanfall, dr3, and ryse were also timed... Let me know when we see ps4 versions

I expect MS to pump resources to ensure TR looks and plays better than UC4

ziggurcat1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

@illusive:

no. timed for the other platforms. if you think that TR is not coming to PS4, you're sorely mistaken.

Cindy-rella1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

'I expect MS to pump resources to ensure TR looks and plays better than UC4'

Knowing about naughty dogs reputation being backed up by their work i would say that on a technological level the next tomb raider wont be better than uncharted 4.

I was mostly a pc gamer last gen but playing the uncharted games were a technological marvel which i never thought was possible on a system i considered weak the ps3. From the graphics, animations, physics and all sorts in the uncharted games they were above all other console games.

We can all have preferences and our opinions on story or things we cant properly measure but things we can see and measure such as the technology behind it all naughty dogs games such as uncharted or the last of us are technological masterpieces above all else in their respective genres.

People are already disappointed in uncharted 4 even though it looks amazing and is not even close to being released because people have been conditioned to seeing naughty dogs games looking the best graphically. I think the game looks amazing for a game still in such an early stage of development

ABizzel11018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

Because to MS

Mainstream big sellers >>> modest selling small budget niche games your fans have been asking for for generations. It's like they fear taking a risk with anything unless it turns out to be a graphically impressive game (Remedy) or a game with an established fanbase that can be made cheaply (Killer Instinct / Indies).

turdburgler10801018d ago

Hopefully sony and Microsoft don't get into a bidding war for lifetime console exclusivity on franchises cause it would be a bummer for folks who only buy one console per generation. Timed exclusive is one thing but a whole console generation exclusive is another. Thankfully I own both ps4 and xbox one but I can feel for one console owners.

mikeslemonade1018d ago

Exclusives are better for the gamer! That's a fact

BitbyDeath1018d ago

Don't think Shenmue would sell well on Xbox. They are better off with securing the next titanfall or Crysis games.

user55757081018d ago

his amends should have been fixing that horrible d-pad on all of the xbox controllers

GameNameFame1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

We are likely looking at announcements for 2016 from MS. If they had game coming this year. They would have announced it at VGA. They had perfect opportunity.

Yet they decided not to. This simply just mean no more announcement for 2015.

@illusive man.

You are living in lala land.

If TR is only going to PC. MS can easily announce and say "X1 is the console TR2 will ever be released it."

Yet. They will not say that. LOL. Sony did it with SF5. It blatantly said it is not timed.

Yet, MS gets asked about it tons, but wont say it wont come to PS4.

BG115791017d ago

If they wanted to make amends about anything, why didn't they start with making amends for Bayoneta 2 exclusivity to the WiiU?
Are they going to make amends each time there is a game coming out on PS4 and not Xbone? All those indies don't deserve the amends because of MS'indie clause? Phil should should probably start there.

b_one1017d ago

Timed as hell - see pics EU PSN Store PL version

http://iv.pl/images/6599094...

or is Sony just trolling

kenwonobi1017d ago

Confirmed its Ps4 exclusive forever.

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eezo1018d ago

officially confirmed as TIMED Exclusive to Xbox One and Xbox 360

Septic1018d ago

Dunno why people are disagreeing with you. It's already been confirmed...

QSPR1017d ago

Guy's this deal with Capcom and STF was made before tomb rider deal or anything. Here is my prove

Mysterious PS4 Street Fighter Viral Video - (Hado…: http://youtu.be/jcFKdTMzgkk

Hardcore_gamerxbox1017d ago

Microsoft publishing the game and funding the game same as Sony doing to street fighters but I don't think sony gonna publish the game

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NegativeCreep4271018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

So he's going to make amends...against Sony...for making amends against them?

Crazy old Microsoft. And if he does make good on that statement, watch and no one will see any "Exclusive Third Party Games are BAAAAD For The Future" articles pop up.

Sitdown1018d ago

They have stated they skip out on events because of lack of games?

christocolus1018d ago

lmao, they've never said anything of the sort, maybe im wrong but i'd surely like to see a link though.

nX1018d ago

Why would they even need to say that? We know that they skipped quite a few shows in recent time, even Tokyo Games Show and Gamescom a couple of times. I somehow can't even believe that they skipped the Game Awards while Sony not only showed off something there but also at their own PSX event. You'd be fooling yourself if you think that Microsoft can keep up with Sony's exclusive lineup, they pretty much lost the last 10 years in that respect.

Angeljuice1018d ago

Please don't start an exclusivity war, just play nice you two or I'll send you both to bed without any supper.

Why does the author feel the need to be so patronising as to explain what "make amends" means?

Naga1018d ago

Because his intended audience has a 4th grade vocabulary. Look around this website and others, and try to tell me otherwise.

JeffGUNZ1018d ago

@ Naga

Says the guy starting a sentence with Because.

Naga1018d ago

@ JeffGUNZ

Contrary to your narrow conception, the English language is not a rigid and inflexible tool of surgical precision which cannot be used in any other manner than that which is prescribed in dictionaries and other formal educational literature. Rather, it is a tool of communication which possesses an acceptable degree of flexibility for those who would dare to take such liberties with it in the pursuit of presenting a more casual tone in conversation.

In light of that consideration, please forgive my informality in beginning a sentence with the word, "Because," in a comment on a public gaming forum; I thought this was an acceptable liberty to take in this forum.

Also, if you would be so kind, please refrain from asserting your rank as a Grammar Nazi in this neck of the woods. It doesn't go over very well, and is a great way to lose your dearly beloved bubbles. Moreover, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from committing the ad hominem fallacy. By that, I am referring to your implied dismissal of my comment on the basis of your grammatical disagreement. The relevance of my claim exists independent of whether my comment was sufficiently composed to your grammatical standards.

Cheers.

tlougotg1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

No, next tomb raider is a timed exclusive, not an exclusive-exclusive.

Lifeisamok....

This experience was better than vga, e3, tgs put together. Many ppl didnt just see trailers and demos lol What show were you watching? Mostly all those games were playable during or after the show. Ppl never even expected to get so much gameplay for Uc4 but we got alot from that and the Order. Sf5 also announced, more No mans sky, Jaffe new game, and many other things. Ppl just like to spin and complain! We got alot during that experience, definitely better than bs awards and other shows weve seen lol

Foxtrot...

Because SF is more loved than any of those games you mentioned and will sell more. Street Fighter is straight up iconic and to grab an ip exclusivity like that is crazy even if fighting games arent that popular anymore. I mean Titanfall hype died super fast lol and Overdirve is a good game but i dont think many cared, trust me people care about Street Fighter. Tomb Raider is only a timed exclusive by the way so not same effect.

By the way "Bloodborn" is more important to me but thats just me lol I know other ppl are like "Street Fighter" WTF!!!!

Sunset Overdirve wasnt even a big loss for Sony or a loss at all financially, gamewise it was a win for microsoft fans because it was a quality game but sales arent high up there. wow just looked at sales there atrocious..... http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... Definitely a good choice by sony to pass.

GMR_PR...

Why dont you hop off..... I love that one bubble, means i dont agree with something just to go along with status quo.... "That salt" is real ;/

thewhiteelephant1018d ago

I really love the Sony troglodytes now using Vgchartz numbers this gen to prop up their arguments. Last gen they couldn't be trusted. And FWIW I don't think uncharted 4 is as great a leap as it's being made out to be. The order is what will make me buy another ps4 this coming year

kenshiro1001017d ago

^

Which is what XBox fans do...right?

christocolus1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

Please why does it bother you guys to see an Xbox event? it doesn't even have anything to do with the Sony faithful in here, an xbox event will be for fans and the media alike and fyi Microsoft had their own event in the past,it was called the XO events it ran for 6 years straight and they always had huge game announcements at the shows. Phil is definitely bringing it back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

CYCLEGAMER1018d ago

I said this b4, but I am not sure if Sony wants to get into a bidding war with MS for 3rd party games.

BitbyDeath1018d ago

Or maybe they do?
Sony know MS have limitations with Xbox given their current circumstance. It is time Sony push back for once, and they are.

CYCLEGAMER1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

@BitbyDeath
That is a good way to look at it I guess, but if MS wants to compete in the gaming space, they can/will win any bidding war with Sony.

If the MS bosses trust Phil like they say they do, and Phil says we NEED to do THIS...I am pretty sure MS will do it.

Money trumps all in business, which is one of the reasons people hate MS so much.

extermin8or1017d ago

Not necessarily you have to consider the Ms bosses say stuff but xbox division isn't making them the money they want and pumping more into it isn't something they'd look on favourably. Also ps4 has a larger userbase and seems to sell a fair bit more multiplatform than xbox generally speaking so that has to be factored into the bidding the lost sales see so Sony can start with a lower bid and technically be on equal ground with a higher bid from MS.

neomahi1018d ago

It's timed for Holiday 2015 and then expected to launch on PS4 in March 2016. With Uncharted 4 launching Holiday 2015, it makes Crystal Dynamics a bit nervous. Phil Spencer, or one of his henchmen, talked with Crystal and said: "Hey, PS4 has Uncharted and we don't have anything like that. We think it'll be in your best interest to not try and go neck and neck on the same platform on this one, but instead, launch on a console that doesn't have that sort of competition. We'll compensate you of course, and then you can maximize your profits on a console of fans that want a similar experience, you can provide that. Then, when the Uncharted 4 hype has cooled down, release Rise of the Tomb Raider on PS4 Spring of 201. Hey, we want to be your friends. We want a good relationship with developers in aiding them in making good financial decisions. So, what do you think?"

And that's how it happened. You've got Tomb Raider exclusive to Xbox One for Holiday 2015, and then out on PS4 in Spring 2016. It's only a three month difference but, you'll be playing Uncharted on PS4.

CYCLEGAMER1018d ago

@neomahi
Where are you getting these dates from, and certainty that the game is coming to the ps4??? Phil Spencer said that he does not own the franchise and the deal that he has is for this game and it is timed for xbox one and 360. How do you not know that he means timed until they go to the PC, just like DR3 and Ryse. He said that the deal that he has with TR2 is more like the deal he had with DR3 and RYSE, and those games are not on the ps4.

How are you so sure that it is coming to the ps4??

"When people want me to say, can you tell us when or if it's coming to other platforms, it's not my job," Spencer told Eurogamer. "My job is not to talk about games I don't own. I have a certain relationship on this version of Tomb Raider, which we announced, and I feel really good about our long term relationship with Crystal and Square.

"I get the reaction I see. If I'm a PlayStation person all of a sudden I feel like, the franchise has gone. I didn't buy the IP. I didn't buy the studio. It's not mine. Where this thing will go over time, just like Dead Rising or Ryse, we'll see what happens with the game. I don't own every iteration of Tomb Raider.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

extermin8or1017d ago

@Melanoma: he said only on xbox in 2015 that's where he is getting dates from. His dates seem pretty reasonable and make sense. Expect to see os4 version at ps experience next year or something. The fact he hasn't said it's not coming to ps4 means it probably is.

CYCLEGAMER1017d ago (Edited 1017d ago )

Soooo you were saying????

http://news.yahoo.com/rise-...

MS is publishing the next TombRaider, when have you ever heard of a game that is publish by one console being put out on another?

Turns out I was right, it will be timed for the xbox one, then ported to the PC not the PS4.

rainslacker1017d ago

My wondering more why Spencer feels he has to make up for anything. It's not like he screwed up or anything. X1 SF fans may be upset about it, but no blame on MS, it's more Capcom, and possibly Sony to be upset about.

I also find it odd that Spencer is talking so much about PS the past couple weeks. It's cool and all that he's giving credit where it's due, but really, just concentrate on X1 and deliver what you can. The more he talks about PS, the more it makes me think he's trying to inject X1 into the conversation. I don't think that, but if he keeps doing it I probably will think that's the case, since all these comments seem to come with the obligatory, "MS got's stuff too".

XanderZane1017d ago

Microsoft is working specifically with Crystal Dynamics n Tomb Raider. It will use DX12 and the cloud. It's timed exclusive for the PC. It ain't coming to the PS4 just like SFV isn't coming to XB1.

extermin8or1017d ago

Street fighter 5 announced as Ps4 lifetime console exclusive. RotTR announced as xbox exclusive for 2015. Won't comment on ps4 version. Ps3 and ps4 version of previous tr outsold xbox version. Means alot of potential sales there-ergo it's coming to ps4 if it wasn't MS would have said and would want people to know there's no point waiting.

geddesmond1017d ago

Unless someone high up at MS is going to green light 100 mil so that MS can buy a third party exclusive big enough to outweigh SF5 then no he won't make amends.

SideNote1017d ago

Funny reading how Rise of the Tomb raider is a timed exclusive. Published by Microsoft...think again.

blackout1017d ago (Edited 1017d ago )

The playstation event was all a repost of e3. Loving ms, money talks. If Sony wants to play hard ball street fighterwas not the answer. LLet's go Phill. Sony's midget pocket aren't long enough. Phill just end this generation and aquire Take Two Interactive. Ps ponys.

geddesmond1017d ago

ROFLMAO. Yeah and why not Activision and EA while they are at it lol. The brains on some people amaze me. Throw in solving world hunger while your at it haha.

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-Foxtrot1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

Why does he feel he has to make amends, the Xbox One got Titanfall, Dead Rising 3, Sunset Overdrive (from a former PS developer I may add) and Tomb Raider as exclusives.

The Street Fighting deal was basically a reaction from Sony because of those deals he made. It's his own fault for buying things like Tomb Raider for example instead of investing in a game to fill that genre himself.

He has to realize you can't just throw money around all the time and then act surprised when their rival does it.

fermcr1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

How many 3rd party exclusives Sony have for the PS4 ?

... and please don't tell me that Street Fighter is the first and only one.

BISHOP-BRASIL1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

Actually I can't recall anything else, maybe some indies, but no big 3rd party as far as I know... Gonna have to check it out.

EDIT: I scrambled and all I could find is FF XIV (which Sony never have to buy, MS denied cross platform play to SE and so the game never saw an XB1 release).

Sure there are other stuff... Plenty of indies being either "playstation exclusive" or "console exclusive", 1 potentially big new IP (Hellblade - but it's also timed exclsuivity) and 1 big franchise, but it's a spin-off (Dragon Quest Heroes).

I believe there's also Dinasty Warrior games being exclusive to Sony consoles, which also is not about buying games, but about japan user base.

I'm scrapping the barrel here, those are the games I could find... None before SFV have anything pointing at Sony taking out the checkbook to secure a big sequel like MS with TR or the case in point (SFV), so likely MS started it (and this is only looking at this gen) and likely Sony is the one reacting. Which frankly makes no difference, whoever started this, I only hope it ends...

fermcr1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

@BISHOP-BRASIL

I'll name a few from the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more:
The Order 1886, Bloodborne, No Man's Sky, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, Resogun, Rime, Until Dawn, Final Fantasy 14, Deep Down, Until Dawn, Yakuza, Witness, Transistor, Wild, Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Hellblade, etc.

...are all made by 3rd party studios. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

Revolver_X_1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

@fermcr

The Order, Resogun, Until Dawn, Im pretty sure No Man's Sky, and maybe Hellblade would all qualify as 2nd party. They are independent studios with a contract with Sony. No big publisher owns them. Rime, Rapture, Witness, Wild, Ethan Carter may qualify as well. I dont know those developers very well. Ultimately, you are mistaken.

neomahi1018d ago

Bloodborne and The Order: 1886. Ready at Dawn is not owned by Sony. They developed the Okami port for Wii.

sonic9891017d ago

Hahaaaahaaa
Respect yourself please dat IQ.
Look at those games and think hmmmmmmm then make the discovery that all those ips are infact owned by sony wooow you say huh.
Non of those games had any game before think scalebound on xbox no one blames ms for it cause quite probably its their ip.
Use brain cells people its not their for decoration and finally I wanted to point out that english isn't my first language its not even my second but I try my best with it

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darthv721018d ago

didnt insomniac approach Sony with SO and was turned down? So they approached MS and MS offered them the help they needed.

it was like Bayo 2 wanted to be made but MS and Sony passed but nintendo was there to accept the task of assisting in the development.

sometimes these companies make the wrong choices when passing on a game. LBP had its chance for the 360 but MS (in their infinite wisdom) chose not to accept the idea of user created content. Go figure...look at the popularity of LBP now.

-Foxtrot1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

You know what I find funny with the whole Sunset Overdrive thing, it's totally contradicting

Insomniac wanted to keep the IP, Sony didn't want that.

Now you would want to keep the IP because you would want the game to go multiplatform in the future...it's the whole point really. Why would you be that bothered if the game was an exclusive anyway. If you do have the IP and it's an exclusive then you can't do much with it.

Microsoft let them keep the IP....yet the game is an exclusive

You see where I'm going with this, it doesn't make sense.

Which is why I believe that Sunset Overdrive will come to the PS4/PC in the far future. There is no reason why they would want to keep the IP name for themselves if they were going to keep in on one platform anyway

Sitdown1018d ago

@Foxtrot
You keep your IP to do with it as you please; not just about bringing it to other consoles or going multiplatform. You want to own your creation, because it's your creation.

VforVideogames1018d ago

The Call of Duty franchise was turn down by Sony and we all know how that turn out.

sonic9891017d ago

@ foxtrot
It does make sense and in fact its a good business model in my opinion.
They had that crash and spyro incident because they didn't own the ips.
So it makes sense that ask for it btw they develop sequels at wish even with a different dev team example ratchet and clank size matters on psp if I remember correctly

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Septic1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

"The Street Fighting deal was basically a reaction from Sony because of those deals he made. It's his own fault for buying things like Tomb Raider for example instead of investing in a game to fill that genre himself. "

How do you know Sony buying Street Fighter was a reaction to MS?

"It's his own fault for buying things like Tomb Raider"

Just like how Sony bought Tomb Raider exclusivity with TR2 for the PS One?

Dead Rising 3 always had an association with Xbox first.

Titanfall was a deal struck with Respawn because Sony didn't give them the attention they wanted when they approached them first.

SSO- Insomniac wanted to retain control of the IP. Sony wasnt prepared to give them that. MS were.

"He has to realize you can't just throw money around all the time and then act surprised when their rival does it."

How is he acting surprised? He's just giving kudos and saying that he will respond in kind. The chap he's responding to said this:

"just give me a new Banjo Kazooie or Conker and we can forget this whole SF thing happened Phil"

Banjo Kazooie and Conker are first party titles. You're automatically assuming that he's getting the money hatting card out.

izumo_lee1018d ago

Why does everyone keep talking about the TR2 deal during the PSone days as a big deal.

First of all Sony was the newbie in the console industry going up against the mainstays Nintendo & Sega. Both of these have their blockbuster 1st party titles & Sony needed to find a leg up on the competition. So they catered to the 3rd parties until they were able to build their 1st party studios.

After 20 years of building these good relationships with 3rd parties some of them wouldn't be as big as they are now without that good will with Sony, which is why Capcom went to Sony before anyone else.

SmielmaN1018d ago (Edited 1018d ago )

I believe ea made the deal with MS for exclusivity. Wasn't there articles on here indicating zampenella (sp) was not happy about this deal until they gagged him and put out that BS statement about servers.

How did you come about this information regarding a deal between Sony and TR during PSone days? Links? Oh, just more of your attempts to slant some subtle trolling? Oh ok, never mind.

Septic MS Defemce Force in full effect!

Septic1018d ago

@smielman

"
How did you come about this information regarding a deal between Sony and TR during PSone days? Links? Oh, just more of your attempts to slant some subtle trolling? Oh ok, never mind. "

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w...

Get schooled

darthv721018d ago

@smielman... "In September 1997, Sony Computer Entertainment America signed a deal with Eidos to make console releases for the Tomb Raider franchise exclusive to the PlayStation, preventing the Sega Saturn or the Nintendo 64 from having any Tomb Raider game released for it until 2000, a deal that would prove very beneficial to Sony both in terms of revenue dollars and also in further cementing the PlayStation's growing reputation as the go-to system for must-have exclusive titles."

In case you did not follow septic's link. ;)