So what does this mean for the console war? Will this further boost PS4 sales? There is no doubt that ‘Street Fighter V’ is destined to be a hit considering the phenomenal success of ‘Street Fighter IV’ and its various spin-offs.
Now I am glad I returned my Xbox One!
Sony were smart for buying the exclusive for ever not just timed But this still feel soo wrong to me same as Tomb Raider.
This is like The Bayonetta 2 deal, Sony funded it and it's fully exclusive on consoles , TR was already in development for all platforms and only timed for 6 months. Also SF5 is THE biggest fighting franchise and will sell millions of consoles, so it's a smart move by Sony.
@ezzo Worried? I don't think so,definitly a good deal for sony and imo this also gives MS the chance to open their cheque books for even more deals. In an interview after the TR backlash Phil said they would continue making third party deals but as time goes by they would eventually wind down on such deals and increase focus on 1st and 2nd party efforts but this new turn of events might easily change things. They will surely keep investing into 1st and 2nd party exclusives but they may never stop making 3rd party exclusives(timed and full) either and MS will now care less about the backlash from a section of gamers. Its now a free for all affair. Aaron Greenberg recently stated on twitter that their teams are constantly on the look out to secure great exclusives for the console.. Let's just hope the upcoming TR doesn't become a full exclusive to Xbox and PC cos after the SFV deal was announced Shinobi on neogaf said he had heard some pretty amazing things regarding MS plans for next year and beyond and even went as far as saying“ xbox fans definitly had nothing to worry about”. The industry is huge and games are becoming pretty ambitious and expensive to make and there are alot of developers out there looking to find funding for their projects&MS will be more than willing to step in..its just a matter of time, the question now should be “Which big IP will be announced as the next Console exclusive?” most likely we will start hearing more before E3. @newmonday We know SE wasn't happy with the sales of TR reboot and the team at CD had ambitious plans for a sequel but no one knew how much SE was willing to invest in a sequel and going by the words of Darrel Gallagher (CD head) it seems MS is definitly helping with funding for the game, “ Our friends at Microsoft have always seen huge potential in Tomb Raider and have believed in our vision since our first unveil with them on their stage at E3 2011. We know they will get behind this game more than any support we have had from them in the past - we believe this will be a step to really forging the Tomb Raider brand as one of the biggest in gaming, with the help, belief and backing of a major partner like Microsoft.” Darell Gallagher(Crystal Dynamics Head) and im curious, when was it stated 6months. All we've heard is timed exclusive,no one even knows what other platforms it will eventually land on...or you got a link?
@christocolus """I don't think so,definitly a good deal for sony and imo this also gives MS the chance to open their cheque books for even more deals""" Dear god, i hope this never happen again you make me hate this gen already make your own exclusives ...don't just buy them
The only people this benefits are fans of street fighter and that's all I care about. Sony and capcom unified the base and literally doubled the amount of players you can fight against by making its online cross platform. The game is better for this. With tomb raider, it's just timed. The game isn't being enhanced in any way by being exclusive.
This is more like should sony be worried. At least when MS makes these deals its generally for a limited time. Thus not denying those on other platforms the pleasure to play the game in question. What sony did was help out capcom but it shows that the favor in return was much more limiting. So now...IF this is the new trend, then we should see similar deals with other games. Sega has been asked to make shenmu 3 for years and what if MS opens that check book and buys that game. Or the next virtua fighter or somehow manages to secure tekken.... This is nothing like bayonetta or tomb raider. Bayonetta 2 wanted to be made and Sony and MS passed on the idea but Nintendo picked it up. Tomb raider is still coming out. Capcom might not have had the $ now to make a new SF game but they would have over time. It wasnt like gamers have been clamouring for a new SF to begin with.
@ezzo Lmao. You shouldn't hate this generation because of these practices, its just business. Sony doesn't have a figher of their own so they got SF. On the other hand MS needed an adventure/story driven game and they got TR. This practice will only continue as cost of games keep rising and developers start looking outwards to source funds for their projects. In a way,without Nintendo, Sony and Ms help, these games would never see the light of day and if the developers don't get funding they'd wind down over time. Also MS, Nintendo and Sony don't have the capacity to fund and develop every game out there so they'll always pick out the best games to suit their audience and to help sell consoles. Like Phil said “Business deals happen. We won’t do all of them. When we have a first party franchise in a genre I’d rather invest in ours,” Spencer said on” Exactly, no matter how financially capable they are they definitly can't do all the deals out there, it also makes little business sense for sony to invest in TR when they have UC or for MS to keep investing in KI(a 1st party ip) and also a rival ip like SF(which is of same genre with KI), a cross over with MK would be great though(funny thing is Ken Lobb&Ed boon actually joked about the idea on twitter some months ago and i think they should definitly look into that) but im even more curious to know what exclusive third party ips will be snagged up next cos afterall its now an open and level playing field and everyone is invited. Nintendo, sony, Ms even Steam. Its going to be a very entertaining generation indeed.
It's sorta similar honestly. Timed exclusive for TR, but u know the updated versions of SF will come out for xb1
Wow. . Man managed to spin this into a negative for Sony. . . . . Like ez said. . .its a kick in the teeth for a large number of street fighter fans as was tomb raider. Great snag for Sony. . Huge franchise
Worried? How about getting a release date first. Could somewhat be a non factor based on the release date. Doesn't really matter though, I got a PS4 and will get it on release day.
microsoft helped make KI; sony helped make SF. hard to argue against the horse that Sony bet on. we can only dream of a day when MS/Sony/Nintendo co-publish a Disney/Marvel vs. Street Fighter Killer Smash Ultra Hyper Fanboy edition where Akuma shows up and fights off the new triple bladed light saber dude who is getting laughed at by the duck hunt dog.
If Microsoft were smart, they would make a deal for full exclusivity of Tomb Raider. Timed exclusives don't sell that many consoles. Sony were smart with Street Fighter V console exclusivity. It's a big franchise.
I doubt they were able to get full exclusivity in the contract. It is the developer's decision whether or not they want it on other platforms.
should have never bought in first place.
Said no one ever...
No PC tag? It's not officially an exclusive. Also news of cross platform multiplayer sounds good.
I love Sony but I was personally hoping for Nintendo to grab this title, if anyone, so we could have a Street Fighter in Smash Bros.
Wait! hold Up! Ultra SF IV & SF V Sony PS4 Exclusive....and with PC Crossplay! Wouldn't you be worried?
Ultra SF4 is on PS3, PC and Xbox 360.
I think only die hard fighting game fans would buy a system just for Street Fighter. But I also think die hards would buy a Wii U just for Smash and an Xbox just or KI.
Its a great game but with MK and DOA coming out next year theres gonna be plenty of awesome fighting games on xbox
MKX is going to be so epic.
Oh Gosh...... would Microsoft push for exclusive on Mortal Kombat?
MK & DOA are both going to be on the PS4 too so what's your point?
Uhh that theres still good fighting games on xbox, just like I said in my other comment. Mks arguably the biggest fighting game these days so I just don't see to many people switching to playstation for SF unless you're a hardcore SF fan.
True but does games you name will run better PS4 HAHA FACTS LOL
Not at all. Fighting games have lost their appeal. They have been replaced by first person shooters. If BF for example went exclusive, that would be a worry for either side.
I agree, street fighter lost its mass appeal years ago. Great news if your still a street fighter fan and own a ps4 though. I think deep down is a much better get than this.
The fgc would like to have words with you, fgc is arguably amongst the hardest of the hardcore sub communities in the gaming community, holding tournaments still for street fighter two turbo and the likes. Which sf4 being the most popular among capcom.versus and smash
Yes, i said it has lost its mass appeal which is true. There will always be a small group of hardcore street fighter fans and that's great.
Fighting games still get a lot of sales, and generally have an active community. I wouldn't say that they lost their appeal, because almost everyone has at least one fighting game in their library for whatever reason. SF itself is a widely known game. SF and MK are probably the biggest names in the fighting genre actually known to people who aren't fighting game enthusiast. It is instantly recognizable, and will be brought by people by name alone. It may not be that big of a system seller anymore though like it was back in the SFII days. Nowadays, it is possible for multiple genres to coexist. This was a huge get for Sony. I'm not even that big of a SF fan, but this is a pretty big deal. It doesn't spell the end of MS, nor do they need to be worried about it, but to downplay the significance of the series, or it being exclusive to Sony is just misguided.
im sure theyr not, theyr just preparing their big-fat-check for the next deal
Back in the PS1 and PS2 days, Sony had tons of 3rd party exclusives, and no one really complained. I don't think Sony funded most of these games to be exclusive either. It's just that, the devs and publishers at the time thought that creating a game on one top-selling console would be more profitable than to release their games multi-platform and suffer publishing costs. Now the PS4 is somewhat living the PS2 days. We don't know if Capcom asked for Sony to fund them - that's up for debate. All I know is, if I were a publisher, I would really consider development and publishing costs and time constraints, whether exclusive or multiplatform. The bottom line is, the PS4 is a very hot commodity these days, and devs are taking notice. And let's face it: this is the sole reason why MS lowered the price of the Xbox One to $350 and giving out free games - to gain ground in the console market to appeal to developers. MS knows that if they don't sell as much consoles as they can, they will lose great games to Sony. They are willing to sell at a loss just to make developers develop for them.
The real question is "should gamers be worried?" Who know what the outcome will be for this. Are Ms and sony going to try and get bigger 3rd party games and make them exclusive?
I am starting to think i might opt out of gaming the way the gaming world in general is going its turning into a complete cash grab from all the practices going on. And i can only see this 3rd party buying increase and tht on top off 1hour dlc, season pass, every game being broken on release, micro transactions, games not having all the features on release and being patched in later is destroying the enjoyment. And have a ps4 so this deal benefits me but i still see it as shit
DLC was a good idea until it became microtransactions. Fighting games tend to be the worst culprits. Pay for costumes, colors, accessories. Additions to the roster should be free or a lot cheaper. All the dlc for sf iv and its upgrades costs more than the retail game! As for exclusives being bought or funded. Its a business and each side needs to cover all their bases so ppl have a reason to buy their console. I remember when streetfighter was only on SNES until Genesis got some ports. Street fighter, Castlevania, mega man, final fantasy were all mainly Nintendo exclusives in that era. Then during the ps1, n64, & saturn era ps1 had tons of games exclusive (3rd party). Same for the PS2 era.. It wasnt until xbox became a major player that most games went multiplatform... Its really a newer trend.. This is why ps and xbox are now like twins but are now starting to look very different game-wise (1st party they already look way different). If you LOVE games its a HUGE investment because everyone is fighting for your DOLLAR!
The deals just a flesh wound for Ms its not like Sony brought Fallout 4 which would be more of a killer deal towards Ms but as it stands its good for Sony and playstation fans and Ms will move on with their own plans for 2015 and beyond.
Did you know that SFIV and Far Cry 3 sold the same number of copies within 10K units. SF is recognizable outside the gaming community, whereas far cry is generally a game marketed towards gamers. Ask a regular person on the street that isn't a gamer, or is a casual one, what genre both those games exist in, everyone will know street fighter, maybe half will know far cry. Sony getting SF was a big thing. MS getting TR was a big deal, although limited in it's effectiveness. These things happen. They don't really spell the doom of the competition anymore.
There's nothing really for MS to be worried about. It's a business and deals like this happens all the time. It's a big buy for Sony cause Street Fighter is more than just a game, it's Evo so they going to make a big profit off of it but I'm sure MS will have deals of their own and Sony will come back with another one. It's all business in the end.
I think microsoft will make some big moves now as this is a big score for Sony and no one could freak out at Microsoft after this like how the Sony fans sent death threats and such after the tombraider announcement. In that regard I think it's now changed the playing field. I am expecting them to move on some big third party exclusives as a response with possibly pre e3 announcements. We should also begin to see them reduce the minecraft support on the playstation with some exclusive packs coming to xbox, pc and mobile devices, I don't see why Microsoft would continue playing nice with this one after all the money they spent on it.
third party exclusives are as old as console gaming. why are people talking like this is a new thing with SF5
Dude they spent 2 billions on minecraft...
You are aware minecrafts one of the highest selling games of all time right? Not to mention all the toys, shirts, and other products it sells. That games gonna bring buckets of cash in for MS over the years What am I saying though, im sure you know more about what MS should be spending on their buyouts than they do.
In this war Pc is the winner for at the moment:)
Sony didnt pay much for that... Fighting games doesnt sell much and dont get much attiontion. with DOA and MKX coming next year, sony for sure didnt have to pay much for the exclusivity deal.
Fighting games don't sell much? Go pull up the total sales of SF4 and then get back to us. And no attention? Google EVO. Bottom line, Street Fighter is the most popular fighter in the world.
well shit when u have 4 remixes of the same damn game OF COURSE it's gonna have huge sales!
Some across multiple platforms and just the initial releases, not re-releases or "Super Ultra Turbo" editions, and just the ones that I can think of off the top of my head. SFIV sold almost 7 million copies. PSASBR sold over 1 million copies. MKvsMSH over 3 million copies. Injustice 2.5 million copies All DBZ games sell over 1 million Recent SSB over 3 million Tekken 6 sold 4 million. Most of the smaller niche fighting games sell at least 500K, which would make them profitable. There are of course some that flop Fighting games still sell just fine. There are certainly plenty that don't get near those numbers, but that's a lot of big titles that sell enough to make the genre relevant, and SF is certainly the most popular.
Forgotten it was on PC too ¬¬ Clickbait title. I hate this exlcusive bidding war situation, it doesn't benefit anyone but Microsoft and Sony. It's not like these games weren't going to be made WITHOUT the contribution of those companies.
Killer Instinct says no
I don't play fighting games so this doesn't affect me *Shrug* Enjoy ps fans!
Give MS about a month.. SF4, will just be a timed exclusive... OR it prob only for SF4 and for other iterations.. You know Capcom makes 20 versions of Street Fighter per entry..
Could you imagine if MS bought exclusive to an actual remake of Final Fantasy 7 in response to this. Sweet lord the internet would implode on itself. lol
Japan might bomb America if that happened lol.
Given how much ground they lose to sony and nintendo in japan, They will have to take some drastic measures. I wont be surprised if shenmue III, or even FF7 popped up at MS E3 conference. But either way. The message to MS is loud and clear: get your wallet out and start playing hardball.
Some people talk like it was MS choice to make TR a Timed exclusive believe me if they had the chance they wouldn't make it for a limited time only, but why would SE skip the chance to sell their game for the (best selling) platform owners? more money from MS? well this makes it either a bad deal for MS or SE, the timed thing was the only available option for them! I think it's just a normal move from Sony after MS deal with SE the only difference is that PS4 sales helped Sony to make such a massive deal. MS started a war that they can not win. sorry for my bad english
It sold almost equally in the states, between the 360 and ps3. So getting it to be exclusive is massive. If a game predominantly sold well on PS but not xbox, and then became exclusive, it would not be a big deal. Because (in the states) the ps3 sold 1.93m, and the 360 sold 1.72m of this title's latest installment, this is ultimately a huge deal. It's also strikingly important because sony does not have a fighting game on its console, yet. It now has the best selling fighting game exclusive to its platform. SF5 fills more holes than one might think.
SF5 is a way bigger deal than Tomb Raider. Street Fighter has a massive community, even though the xfans now are trying to say the contrary.
Any first numbered release of SF(not the turbos or whatever) have more sales across multiple platforms, and sometimes on a single console, than any MS exclusive other than Halo, and certainly more sales than any TR game. How people can not think that this is a huge score for Sony is beyond me. TR was a big deal, but SF isn't? Yeah, whatever. Both are highly recognizable games among gamers and non-gamers alike. Among hardcore and casual alike. They're both big deals.
Street fighter is pish cant say im botherd
SF5 is a console seller. They should be worried but MS will respond by buying another exclusive.
SF5 is a big one. Its the king of fighting games (virtua fighter is the god) But fighting games are niche, as I said the other day. You want to know how big a deal SF5 is? just look at how many people comment in a fighting game post on N4G, as an example. Hardly anybody posts in them. they hit 30 comments and then just die down. On a broader scope. SF4 and all its iterations sold around 7 million across 5 platforms (X360, PS3, PC, 3DS and iOS) over the space of a few years, with each release seeing lower sales that the first SF4. The last version of TR sold 4 million on last gen consoles. Thats ONE version of tomb raider across two platforms VS 3 versions of SF4 over 5 platforms. FYI, I have owned all three versions of SF4. I am sure I am not the only one who got duped into buying this game multiple times! lol. But I love SF games. But no, its not a megaton that MS should be worried about. They should be more concerned about uncharted 4 and the order. Those games are the PS4s system seller in 2015. SF5, like bloodborne, is a niche game that will appeal only to fans of those franchises ( Lucky for sony, I am a fan of both.)
the last VF sold less than 2 million. SFIV(not including it's subsequent re-releases) sold almost 7 million across PS3 and 360. Not sure where you're getting you're numbers from. The SF community is pretty huge, and the game is as recognizable as Mario. Fighting games are not niche. I have a post above listing the numbers of some various games. Fighting games have been around forever, why all of a sudden are they meaningless? I could understand a single "hard-core" fighting game being niche, but an entire genre?
The numbers are on wiki. "Fighting games have been around forever, why all of a sudden are they meaningless? I could understand a single "hard-core" fighting game being niche, but an entire genre?" Dude. Take a Good. Long. Look at my avatar. And read my posts that allude to fighting games. I dont like calling it niche, anymore than you like reading it. Trust me. I love them to bits. But I seldom have anybody in my freindslist on either console (X360 and PS3 & PS4) that plays fighting games, like I do. Back in the day my friends would come round to my house just to play The best versions of all the fighting games ( I have two sega saturns to this day. a UK 50/60 HZ switchable sega saturn and a white japanese model plus all SNK and capcom RAM carts) on my 37 inch toshiba (bought it with my first paycheck from my first job...at IKEA. lol). was well worth it when I played X-men VS street fighter for the first time! looked JUST like the arcade. I was a bad ass at any version of SF Alpha, darkstalkers, king of fighters... you name it. I have owned it, at some point, if its a proper fighting game. right down to waku waku 7 and golden axe the duel. sorry for the long post. But I just want you to understand, that I am saying what I say, as a hardcore fighting game fan for over 20 years. I have watched it become smaller and smaller. the 90s was the golden age of fighting games, and it has been on decline since, as people move on to FPS, big open world games etc. Thats just the way it goes. 10 years from now the fighting game may be as niche as the shmup. Im a fan of those too, btw.
SF5 i agree is a big name in the fighting genre but are people serious in thinking this game will sell millions of consoles.
Nah,they shouldnt be worried. It is a low blow to ms but they have the new mortal kombat and whatever else fighting games that'll probably gets released later for the xbox1. Besides, who's to say that capcom wont make an ultra or super edition available for the xbox1. They are many other games their to fill that void. Ms needs to start buying indefinite ite exclusives instead of time exclusives. Ms has done so many thi gs wrong and is still is at the start of this new gen and this is coming from an xbox fan. 360 was great but I think they got big headed this gen just like sony with the ps3 and now they're paying for it. I know eventually Im going to buy a ps4 the question is, am I going to trade in my xbox1 for a ps4 or just have best of both worlds? Only time will tell.
sony made moves,they tired of xbox's shit stealing games,like why fuck is kingdom hearts 3 is xbox one fuck xbox thats why street fighter is ours now,ps capcom wanted street fighter v to run in 1080,its to hard for the one to do that