During the “Story Time” panel held at PlayStation Experience, PlayStation Software Product Development Head Scott Rohde talked about how quickly Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End is evolving.
Updated with two pictures from Naughty Dog's character panel.
Naughty Dog really making progress, learning the PS4. Nothing but good things
It seems we have the same phantom disagreers following each article it's usually 6 or 7 of them. HI GUYS!
Jimmy- Once again, attacking the source instead of the message with facts? DigitalFoundry said it best: "we suspect that the original footage may indeed have been rendered offline within the engine. That's a shame in some respects because, for some, the discussion now isn't about how great the game looks - and let's be clear here, Uncharted 4 is often stunning - but rather about how it falls short compared to its initial reveal." http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... ^^^ This is EXACTLY what i've been saying since E3 and received nothing but insults, downvotes, and rabid fanboy nonsense in return. Ahh... i love being right.
Yeah, you were right. The game still looks fantastic, just not as good as that first trailer led us to believe.
AndrewLB So your going to really question ND's ability to reach that mark despite their track record of always delivering? Were talking about the best studio in the industry here. I dont care what any fanboi thinks about ND because reguardless how much ppl may hate ND, they always deliver. Trust me Uncharted just from that demo shown is GOTY Material. I cant wait for them to drop the beta for multiplayer. ND has mastered that part down aswell with TLOU & im sure Uncharted 4 multiplayer will be awesome aswell with an amazing story and campaign and graphics. Doubting ND is like doubting Rockstar with RDR & GTA or Kojima with MGS.
Are people forgetting how UC2 and 3 looked so much better at final release then it did when they revealed it?
This generation contains the most egotistical gamers I've ever seen. Digital Foundry and users like AndrewLB both are examples of this. People work so hard on games, show undeniably strong demos of pre-alpha games, and people still want to hate, and justify their hate through speculation, and end up shitting all around the industry. Here's how honest feedback sounds like. Pay attention Digital Foundry and AndrewLB. Unless there's reason to believe otherwise, E3 reveal was all in game running on PS4. PSX demo was all in game running on PS4. Why was there slight graphical differences? Maybe because the E3 reveal was a canned cut scene with little else, whereas the PSX demo was actual cutscene, gameplay, map/level, AI, etc. A lot more was loaded. It was a cutscene within a game vs. a cutscene created for a teaser/reveal. In my opinion, the game hit the mark right on. Not only did they show a beautiful game, it looks so fun.
Guise.. are we forgetting Naughty Dog cut scenes are usually rendered with more detail vs. active game play?
*Dons my fanboy flame shield* Ok let me put thing into a little bit of perspective for you. ND are great devs but they are far from the best on the industry. They make very pretty hallway games. Lets face it, every UC game has been a hallway. and at this very moment UC 1,2,3 and 4 all occupy the bargain bins at Game, EB ect. That is because the fact that UC games are very pretty hallways with very little to no replay value, the stories are good but not worth the replay just to watch the cut scenes if you ask me. The multiplayer sections are also very limited in scope and does not drive the gamer to keep playing, an average gamer could be done with both the SP and MP of UC4 in about 25 hours. Not to mention that the gameplay seems so basic no matter how many times you see it, walk or run here, shoot bad dude, quick QTE event, repeat. The problem with UC games as I see it is they don't have the same replay feel as other hallway games like MGS4. You can replay MGS games 10 times and still find something new or up the difficulty to make things harder this is not the case with UC games. Also there is very limited stealth features, shooting seems to feel like a Gears of War game. Really the only thing UC games have going for them is fans invested in the story so far and the best visuals consoles have to offer. But just like the last UC game i'll wait 12 weeks after release and pick it up in the bargain bin where it will wind up. ND and UC are the messiah of Sony fans so I am expecting to be marked as trolling or disagreed with on mass, but I don't care, fanboys are stupid. I will get the game I will play the game but after the last for iterations I dont expect anything groundbreaking, I have a kick ass gaming PC so you can't get 10/10s from me just for visuals.
Wizard_King So if the gaming industry awards Uncharted 2 & TLOU the most GOTY awards of all time at their releases thats not enough to showcase why u dont believe ND are the best devs in the industry because no games on your swooped up pc has ever gotten as many awards. Dude i dont how much u put into your pc. Until a dev that exclusively makes a game for pc can win as many awards as TLOU. Come see me then.
i was worried that they kept the same engine for this gen as well but i guess they made the right choice.
Has anyone read the dualshockers comments on the articles written by this guy ( nelva) ? he's one of the least professional "video game journalist"/"blogger "/"whatever" that I've come across. He constantly goes to war with and bans people in the comments usually for little reason it seems. Dude has some serious anger management issues. Just look at this article for an example. Plus his article titles are always sensationalist clickbait.
Some people are not meant to be admin/moderator,i have seen this many times before.
glad im not the only one to notice it. As i was reading the comments i couldnt help but hate him. The moment i saw the title i was like whaat? then read dev quote which was easily understandable. quiet a few people mentioned this and instead of agreeing hes wrong, tries everything possible to prove himself correct. ass = complete
As far as journalists go, Abriael does not fare well. He claims word economy, but he does precisely the opposite with an added spice of sensationalism. The vast majority of his titles make reading the rest of the article pointless. Oh well.
True, but it's still miles and miles away from looking like E3's teaser. It looks great, but I was expecting more. I know this is early footage and the final game will look better at release, but still I got this 2005 Killzone feeling when seeing the footage from Playstation Experience.
KZ2 was not presented as a playable demo until 07 I think. Uncharted demo clearly was realtime if that is what worries you. Most obvious detail to prove it is that during the PSX showing the player lost control and Drake fell into oblivion dragging the camera with him and clip down out of the game world before the game reset itself to a checkpoint. Also it looks to build on the existing engine and I could see things that will typically appear in realtime gameplay rendering and more specifically things that happen/exist in previous Uncharted games like some rougher animation transitions that never would have been if it was pre-rendered. First trailer looks better, but the game is still in alpha and looks phenomenal as it is. I don't think the final build will be easily distinguishable from the initial trailer/cutscenes.
The game looks great yes, but it doesn't look like the E3 teaser them showed us earlier this year. Of course this is just an alpha version, so they might be able to get it close to that quality. Don't know if it will be 60fps however. The last Uncharted game didn't look like the E3 reveal when it was completed either. The gameplay looked similar to the version 2 Uncharted games. I still can't wait to play it myself.
I like how you're trying so very hard to downplay Uncharted Andrew.
He's like a dog with a bone and wonders why people are negative towards his negativity.
This is the reason I bought my PS4 first. MLB The Show and TLOU were nice compliments, but after that footage I'm very excited to see this.
I feel like I bought mine for a lot more than this, but this is probably my most anticipated game...unless we finally get some Persona 5 gameplay and it looks mind-blowing.
You bought PS4 first because your most anticipated game was 2 years away?
Yes, and since most games were announced as multiplatform, it made sense. At the outset it looked to me like PS4 was the clear frontrunner, and as an MS only person last gen, it was a decision to get those series (removed: games) I didn't get by not owning a PS3.
Its mental the work ND put in for a demo that would have been more likely for next years E3 but had to be showed for this event
So what if it don't? It looked great and the gameplay looked solid along with smart A.I. We're honestly lucky we even got to see gameplay in a pre-alpha stage. It looks amazing and it will only improve.
They meant it improved in 3 weeks. Read the article. And while I love how good ND'S games look, it's the dynamic gameplay that gets me. To me, that's what I want in next gen. I want the world to react to what I do, instead of the constant static encounters. I love that in this demo. I can't wait for more. Even going back and playing U3, there are few games that feel that good to play.
I agree I should've read past the title on this one. I'm use to seeing people complaining that it didn't look as good as the reveal trailer.
It'll be awesome to see more of the game leading up to release. The gameplay and visuals are already looking to be absolutely spectacular, not like I expected anything less from Naughty Dog. I'm very interested in what the story will be this time as well. Amazing games are coming in the Spring and throughout the year of 2015. Can't wait to experience them all. I know this is unrelated, but has anyone seen where this gif source came from? The Order just visually looks... Like... Omgoodness good! http://a.pomf.se/xdsqwe.gif
visually the order looks amazing, but gameplay wise looks very basic. i hate to judge a game before playing it but i feel that i would love the storyline/characters/cinematic s but gameplay would be the boring middle parts. not saying it wont be enjoyable though. for uncharted and naughty dog. i trust in them making a great enjoyable game. the first uncharted actually brought me back into gaming.
What the hell are you people expecting out of the gameplay? Can't a game just have good solid gameplay? Why does every game have to reinvent the genre? Complaining about no new gameplay mechanics is stupid. Complain if the mechanics are poorly implemented. An(not to you, hk, but in general) for god's sake, stop bitching about games not being "next gen" in more than graphics if you don't have the first clue what that would entail.
@spotie im not expecting much out of gameplay. but out of all those clips seen im not too impressed.the thing about the order is that it looks great, i like the art style, the setting. gameplay is the only thing that hasnt impressed me. the werewolf stuff is ok though. i understand it doesnt have to reinvent anyhing, though something about the videos just makes me feel like something is missing. as i said, i hate to judge a game before it comes out, especially over gameplay when i havent even touched it yet but i just get the feeling the gameplay is going to be ok and i would enjoy everything else a lot more, just a feeling, thats it.
I could nearly expect this guy behind Galahad taking a pic. http://questionablefilms.co...
This is still miles ahead of their competitors, they don't have to answer to anyone... They just need to stay the path to improve what was already shown... And anyone with a brain knows they will do just that!
Comments like this are why people like AndrewLB feel the need to speak up. The game looks excellent, but saying they are miles ahead of their competitors is nothing but BS. It's not blowing away other high end games that have already come out, let alone whatever amazing looking games come out next year.
Exactly, the game looks good but it's no where near the level it was hyped up to be. Especially the trailer that said it was using in-game graphics which clearly looking at now it wasn't. The game still looks good, but nothing mind blowing, we have already seen this level of graphics in other games for the new systems.
I'd be surprised if this makes it out in 2015 if that's the case. I'm ok with 2016 release because 2015 is already stacked as it is
I'm okay with a 2016 release IF ND can fulfill their initial promise that they made at E3. I want the WHOLE game to look like that E3 trailer.
what promise is that? the 60fps? they say they are targeting it. the e3 trailer quality? they say that was in engine graphics not in-gameplay graphics. they didnt make any promises. they said once that, once you go 60fps you cant go back but that was about TLOU. i dont mind if its 30fps stable as long is stunning visualy, gameplay perfect, and a story i can love every second of it. beside i think many people enjoyed the previous 3 games even at 30 fps cause thats how good this series are. now im not saying that 60 isnt better, cause it is and anyone saying other wise are just lying, but in this type of games, if it is a stable 30fps im pretty cool with it, and cant wait for the game either
Did you see the PSX footage? If so, are you aware that it is currently December 2014? If Scott Rhode said the game was a different beast a mere 2-3 weeks ago, then nearly a year of develpment will be more than enough. The game should be out around the same time the other Uncharted's released. Most likely November 2015.
They probably showed an early build, I'm willing to bet the game will look a lot better by the time it comes out, with that said I still think it looked pretty fantastic.
Obviously the game will look better at launch. Its just concerning that ND felt the need to show us a half-baked version of the game. We know that they typically take their sweet time specifically BECAUSE they want to avoid situations like this where gamers are left unimpressed by what they have to show. Sony CLEARLY pushed them to do this against their will. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool. The game looks solid for a pre-alpha title, but I don't know how I feel about seeing subpar versions of a game a year before release. It sets up a type of damage control situation. In the event that the game DOESN'T reach the level of quality that we saw at E3...ND/Sony keyboard warriors will downplay it by saying "bu bu its still a HUGE improvement over what we saw at PS Experience last year!"
I think, and so do many others, that the game is already looking amazing. I'm not concerned in any way, why would I be? I'm f'n hyped to see more.
I'm not concerned about the game itself. Even if it looks a LITTLE better than UC3, thats impressive in my eyes. I just don't like devs being forced to show us pre-alpha footage.
You're making a very large assumption here and it's based off broken logic. When they 1st showed off U1 and U2 they were both in Alpha states. To add to that you don't know when they plan to hit alpha so far as you know they could hit alpha next week. The fact that they had so much to show means that even at such an early state they were more than confident in its performance. Sounds to me like you're fishing for a reason to spin an anti Sony agenda.
" but I don't know how I feel about seeing subpar versions of a game a year before release." -seriously???? what, did you wanted a situation like watch dogs or assassins creed unity? where they show amazing quality and gameplay just to the end product be disappointing? and if that was the case, wouldnt you be here a year from now and saying that the game doesnt look like the reveal gameplay? you guys make me laugh. "It sets up a type of damage control situation. In the event that the game DOESN'T reach the level of quality that we saw at E3" - what you and all of us saw at e3 was a in-engine cutscene, of course it will look stunningly better, and everyone is using the same lame excuse against the game cause of their agenda and jealousy. even in its pre-alpha state it already looks better then nearly every game released this gen
In b4 it's not as good as UC2.
Can't wait to platinum this!.
Ugh just give me a release date so I can plan around it. Lol. I Think I might just fake my death when this releases just to be alone.
I was hoping for a reason to buy a ps4. Ok well morpheus, all eyes on u brother.
well your standards for games quality must be over the roof if you dont think this game, or any of the others coming, is worth a ps4. is comments like yours that makes you sound like you never, ever, had intentions of buying a ps4. i would love to buy a xboxone or a gaming pc, but my financial situation doesnt allow me to that luxury, so i chose the one that i have been with for many years and loved every second and every of it
Dude, you don't know me so don't pretend to know my intentions :/
Uhmmm...That's steal disagrees,I think we have some serious salty ppl in this thread
Still disappointed in the demo. It didn't look anywhere near as good as the reveal trailer..
You need glasses or a better display because the true HD footage was better than the reveal trailer hell they've even done image compares to prove my point.
Yeah. Understandably, its pre-alpha so its not supposed to blow us away. Still...its a dumbass marketing move by Sony. ND came off of such a high at E3. To do that and then show us an inferior version (despite it being pre-alpha) is a buzzkill. For the disagrees, the game itself looks great. I just don't like the way its being marketed. The only reason Sony/ND felt safe doing this was because this was at PS Experience. 90% of the people watching that conference would've bought the game at its current state. Thats how hardcore these people are. ND would tell them some bull like " We needed to be "conservative" with visuals because Sony gamers prefer buttery smooth 60 fps gameplay over lifelike visuals...right guys!?!?!" And N4Gers would defend them lol.
you need to see the direct feed version.. that or you need glasses
So what game looks better?
I just had an awesome idea! Developers should show off pre-release games with the graphics dialed down, then just before release, show how amazing the final build looks and everyone will scream GRAPHICS UPGRADE HOLY CRAP! Ubisoft seems to show awesome graphics, then downgrades them right before release.
Not really. The only people who are saying the graphics suck or were downgraded significantly are MS fan boys. Sony fans seem to know that this is game play footage, and all ND games have a different level of detail for cutscenes and game play.
I'm really really really confused... is the general consensus that it was not good looking??? I was astonished by the graphics I honestly don't understand
It did look fantastic. Some people will always have to know better, that's all.
The concensus is that it looks good but not as good as expected after the E3 unveiled ... unless you are a blind Sony fanboys that is.
For an early alpha its looking GREAT!!! Plus I'm a fanboy so I anything ND touches in my eyes turns to gold.
so the playstation experience gameplay footage was the old footage and 3 weeks ago it looked far better now
30 fps is my only letdown :(
It's still in pre alpha, so you shouldn't have expected it to be running at 60 fps. Give it till next year and hopefully Naughty Dog will have it running at 60fps.
I thought the PSX Uncharted 4 footage looked awesome. I don't understand people complaining it's not like the E3 trailer footage. Game engine rendered cut-scenes have always been, and will always be, better than in-game real-time footage - as more resources can be dedicated to the rendered scene. What amazes me is that the E3 and PSX footage is so close when you consider all the variables and extra resources required to output game play footage to a screen.
Imagine this game is a year away and looks like this! Can't wait to see more. GG and Santa Monica must be at E3 2015 is Sony is showing this much now.
Imagine this game is a year away and looks like this! Can't wait to see more. GG and Santa Monica must be at E3 2015 if Sony is showing this much now.