The Order: 1886 is a beautiful game, but will its action match its potent visuals?
And people say Gamespot is biased against Xbox? Still they can screw off. The gameplay showed a perfectly great third person shooter. A cinematic third person shooter. Nothing janky, it looks like it plays well. And that melee combat against the half-breed looked awesome. They need to show more though. It comes out in 2 months, and they've shown like 20 minutes of footage in total.
Yup, the gameplay looked better than ever in the latest footage, they definitely worked on it after the delay. All I can say is I'm happy I get to finally play it in February, it's a great start to an insane year for games
You know, if this game turns out to be the PS4 equivalent of Ryse... that's not necessarily such a bad thing. I - like many others - loved Ryse, despite its shortcomings. The graphics were outstanding, the production value was top-notch, and the story was actually pretty fantastic. Even if the gameplay doesn't end up firing on all cylinders, games like this can still be quite a joy to play.
You just can't handle someone not thinking this game looks bland, can you? Why is it everytime someone has a different opinion on n4g they are fanboys? Or if a website says they aren't fans of a game they are biased towards a certain company or are "paid off" by developers? Seriously, not everyone is going to like everything someone else likes, and instead of trying to criticize someone to the point you are bashing them, why not try to have a civil conversation?
I think it is because people take this way to personal. Like if I don't agree with another persons opinion then they assume im just a hater instead of a person who has his own personal tastes and likes. Its the same reason why you are getting disagrees, people don't want to see things they don't agree with. It is almost non-existent to see a civil conversation.
It's called "narrative". Ever since it had poor showings when it was first revealed (YES. I'm actually telling you that at one point there were reasons to hate on the game because the gameplay was rough and we didn't know much about it.), people have jumped on the same bandwagon without offering their own opinion. That is a narrative. The game won over 25 E3 awards this year, from people who have actually played it, after they made improvements from the first time they showed it in Alpha mode. But people have ignored that and followed the narrative that was set in place by the critics of the original gameplay showing, and the fanboys and trolls of the competing consoles. The game has solid mechanics, yet people are saying that the gameplay is a turd because it doesn't innovate. That is my point. Why should it have to re-invent the genre, when that is not their intentions with the game? The Evil Within didn't innovate, or do anything spectacularly next-gen in terms of gameplay, and it got great reviews because it was a great game. Why does Mario, Call of Duty etc. get a free pass for doing the same sh*t every year, but one game that is a big exclusive for PS4 does that same and every reviewer uses outdated opinions to shape what they think of it now. The narrative for this game has stuck, rather than updated itself as it should have. And how in the world can people say the game as a whole is bland? It's like no other game out there, conceptually.
^ The Evil Within has like... a 75 metascore. If that's great reviews to you, then yea, TheOrder will likely be great.
@raptor Just because a game wins e3 awards and has solid mechanics doesn't mean its worthy of praise. Games win e3 awards all the time and end up being bad or boring. This conversation about the order reminds me of one game in particular, Rage. Its almost the same exact story being told. A lot of people that saw the trailers and screens said they don't get the hype behind it. It looked bland and boring. Rage had amazing graphics, and more than solid mechanics, and won a ton of e3 awards,including game of the show from a few well known places. But when the game shipped, it wasn't hammered by critics, but it definitely didn't live up to those awards and hype it had accumulated. This has nothing to do with "narrative" as you say, its simply a difference of opinion. A game doesn't have reinvent itself or the genre anytime its released, but it needs to have soul all around. The order has its world built, but playing in that world seems to be the issues people are having. Simply having a good cover system and solid movement and mechanics will only get a game so far if it lacks soul. Evil within also didn't get great reviews all around, it was pretty split between good and bad reviews. Also on not sure why you say Call of Duty gets away the same stuff every year, because it doesn't. Look at ghosts, it was slammed for being boring and having nothing new. Mario "gets away with it" because it reinvents itself with the worlds you visit. Nintendo games from their first party studios have always been well received because it has soul. You don't need to reinvent the mechanics of Mario because playing in a new world is always fun. Making me use the mechanics in a new way or on a new scale makes it feel fresh.
some people are just putting way too much hype into this because its a sony exclusive with amazing graphics. the game looks clunky with way too many interruptions of cut-scenes. linear games are fine, uncharted is a perfect example, but this looks like a case of graphics over gameplay.
@Dudebro, You can't handle someone disagreeing with these so writers from websites who have demonstrated time and again they are incompetent and untrustworthy. Why is it when someone disagrees with a site that criticizes something they like, suddenly those disagreeing are fanboys. And you use the term fanboy in a derogative fashion. Why aren't they correct and the website wrong, particularly when such websites have clearly shown themselves to be whimsical and without standards. And this is Gamespot. Perhaps you are forgetting Gerstmanngate. Seriously, not everyone is going to like everything someone else likes, and instead of trying to criticize someone to the point you are bashing them, why not try to have a civil conversation? You see, I copy and pasted the above comment from your post because it applies dirtectly to you. You automatically assume people going against Gamespot are wrong and you attempt to demean them. Instead you only manage to point your finger at yourself. There is so much irony in your remarks I'll need an oil tanker to haul away enough of it just to see the page.
Dude, Lamespot is terrible, doesn't matter what's your system, looks like The Order producers refused to pay for good coverage. Also, the SJW agenda on the site, to sum up, it's a garbage. The Order: 1886 looks amazing and i love a third-person shooter, it's a must-buy for sure.
That's the problem with the Xbots at gaming sites - they have turned reviews into such a joke in the eyes of gamers that they have no effect. Xbots like this one at GameSpot really think they are striking fatal blows at their hated enemy Sony and are champing at the bit for when they get to publish their 6/10 'review.' When all the people who are getting their hands on the game are raving about the amazing gameplay and seeing the very same amazing gameplay with their own eyes in direct feed live footage the fact that a bunch of angry and bitter Xbots in the media are desperately trying to trash the game is nothing but sad and pathetic sideshow.
Oh just quiet down, this is the 1000th pointless childish, stupid fanboy rivalry comment i've seen today.
Oh just quiet down, this is the 1000th pointless childish, stupid fanboy rivalry comment i've seen today. Gamespot are Xbox fanboys, now i've read everything. Just grow up you twonk. It's posted twice by accident but i think having it twice emphasises just how stupid these comments are.
Have you seen your comments harold?
You are no saint either. So stop calling
Others fanboys when you yourself are one.
imho it looks more boring to play than before. maybe psx they let the cat out the bag. still iinterested. ill give them the rope. after seeing mgs online, the order was very disappointing.
ready at dawn confirmed that they are going to have a 30+ minute long demo.
29 mins will be taken up by (in game) cutscenes that are in game. The cutscenes are in game. Nothing is pre-rendered, the cutscenes are in game. Everything you see is in game. Including the cutscenes, which are in game. Did I tell you that nothing is pre-rendered, it's all in game. So even when you're not playing it, although you're not playing it, it's in game. And even though you're not playing it when those in game cutscenes are being shown you are really playing it because those in game cutscenes are actually based on your star sign and those star signs are being shown in cutscene form, in game. Your soul will be the final cutscene. In game.
that was pretty dumb dude.
I don't get why so many people say The Order dosen't have any exciting gameplay when games like COD, Assassins Creed and even bloody Mario have the same types of gameplay and have done them for years. The Order is taking the third person cover shooter gamepaly we all know and adding this really interesting neo Victorian theme to it. People are really nitpicking this one. Watch people get hyped for Assassins Creed Victory despite being the same AC game we all know and after Unitys horrible launch.
Because it's a ps4 exclusive.
if this was an xbox one exclusive you would be singing a different tune. nothing aside from the pretty graphics is interesting. i saw the latest demo and all the main character did was say "reloading", "clear", "reloading" all while looking like it ran 20 frames per second. it reminds me so much of ryse (which i'm sure you praised thoroughly right foxtrot?). beautiful graphics all covering up poor gameplay and quick time events and dumb ai enemies.
I was cringing at all of those 'press x to make your character kick that guys arse' moments. Just give us a melee button and let it happen in real time ffs.
I'm seeing to different opnions for the gameplay. Some say its solid and lets the game be more immersive. others say its more generic.
A better question would be "Is The Order: 1886 a case of 'you're damned if you do and you're still damned if you do better'?" This sort of unusual pessimism is very strange because I would think that a new IP like The Order would be given a bit more optimism. But then again it could all just be sour grapes from anti-PS4 cyber soldiers though.
What I read doesnt sound like more than 30 minutes of gameplay It just described the onstage footage
Looks good to me, this and No Man's Sky and especially Street Fighter 5 are the reasons I will get a PS4 this holiday.
The game doesn't look that fun at all Apparently a long demo will be playable today so we can see more but I've yet to be impressed by anything they've shown. Critics that've played it echo the sentiments that the gameplay is bland but it looks nice
You're trying to hard. Give it a rest.
Trying to hard at what? I'm posting my opinion of what I've seen thus far. Its trying to hard if you say anything that isn't positive?
Good thing I can think for myself, I'll be the judge about the quality of the game come February.
I mean, it looks decent, from a gameplay design standpoint, nothing special...
Is the quantum break style over substance?
I want an article like this next.
I prefer third person shooters. I have played all the first person shooters that came out for the x box 360 and xb1 and PC and i get bored with them after a while. With Gears of War it had everything i wanted in a shooter. Great cover mechanics, fun story, great multiplayer, awesome characters. The game excites me. I actually do like the look of the order and i hope its successful. I like to see more shooters like this. Disappointed it doesn't have mutiplayer though, if a second one is made it probably be there hopefully.. This is the only game i would buy a PS4 for. I hope it does end up being good and successful, if its good as gears of war i'd join the Playstation nation know problem.
check my history to see I'm a Sony fella all the way but I have to admit, as mind blowing as this game looks graphically the gameplay looks almost dated in how much of a bog standard third person shooter it is. I still have a little hope they're still holding out the mechanics that really make this game something special but even with that the shooter sections look so uninspired, they're basically Kane and Lynch 2 with a pretty coat of muttonchopped paint. It's just frustrating because they're clearly within reaching distance of creating an amazing game but watching them repeatedly roll out this dull shooting gameplay feels like watching the dumb cheerleader unlock her window then go take a shower in an 80's slasher movie. You feel like shouting at the screen to tell them they're making a mistake but sadly it won't make a difference.
What exactly would you like to see game play wise?
Articles like this are hilarious . This games already been crucified by the media so when the reviews start dropping be sure to add 3 points to the score they give to get the true review score. It's so obvious that Microsoft have been paying websites to talk negative about The Order to make Sony look bad. The PS4 will still be the #1 console in the world though.
The game is gonna blow minds. That doesn't mean they will give it good reviews though. the Reviews go to the highest bidder.
Your tinfoil hat is crooked..
After seeing the improvements on uc4 gameplay(more open,more stealth) I was expecting more of the Order.Nonetheles,It still looks like a solid game.
just because you were blown away with the quality don't mean something is wrong with it. Just appreciate.
the only thing i dont like about this game is that focus shooting ability ya do hate that in all shooting games that have it
I have zero respect for Gamespot, as soon as they were rumbled for letting advertising fees affect a review outcome they loose all credibility. I am honestly reaching the point where I am starting to completely ignore opinion pieces, they are rarely positive about there subject matter. I am having to stop myself ranting right now to be honest, why dont these pathetic excuses for journalists use there position to concentrate on positive articles, I for one would rather read opinions that promote the medium and give these amazingly talented teams all the support they deserve. Games media is going down the same path as mainstream media, it is ugly, self serving and negative. If we all turn away from this type of journalism we might get some genuinely interesting articles to read.
The game does look better than what was shown before. It looks a lot more interesting and polished, but it's always good to wait until the game is officially out and see what the jury from journalists/gamers alike say. Looks much better than the early builds, but I can still understand why some people might not like it. But let's talk about the crowd going nuts for Until Dawn. That was surprising.
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