Paul James writes "Paying to stop people from having fun is nothing short of cruelty and when the third party exclusive concept is dead and buried it will not be soon enough."
The sixth generation of gaming probably gave this journalist a mild heart attack. It was third party exclusive galore during that era.
Each generation we seem to loose a big size publisher, last gen it was THQ and I believe this generation capcom isnt looking good Deep down funded by Sony Dead rising 3 funded by ms Now most likely SF being funded by Sony Bottom line is 3rd party exclusive IMO move a bigger needle than first party, which had the bigger impact TR or SF5 announcement wise? I say TR because I remember every site had so many article about it Now if Sony is to announce it at PS event Than believe SF5 will have the biggest impact. SF is a huge world known franchise, we all grew up playing SF games at arcades. Even most casual fans who hav no interest in gaming know street fighter one way or another IMO 3rd party exclusives are awesome, ps2 was basically the best console ever and just look at its exclusives from 1st party studios Also people need to stop crying: MS basically started all this with exclusive DLC and timed exclusive games. Now they nor Xbox fans can call Sony anything. What goes around comes around. Also BTW Sony is a huge company with so much assists that they can loose billions for next decade yet remain in business. So let's end this mindset that Sony is some poor company who can't compare with Xbox/MS Just look up songs assests and you will see just how much money they really have
"MS basically started all this with exclusive DLC and timed exclusive games" please get your facts straight. gta was timed on the ps2 with a six month window from coming to the original xbox. also read this, http://furiousfanboys.com/2...
are these journalists/authors completely idiots??...third party exclusives are the substance that make the difference in console preferance...what the F*ck are they talking about??? Deadrising was exclusive to MS , some of the best Playstation exclusives clearly have been stolen from Nintendo and Ms ..this is clear pure competition so shut your mouth people (to s*t wannabe bloggers journalists )...Sony should have done this from PS3 era ..is a japanese company and clearly has more influence to other japanese companies is acceptable and wanted if you ask us (its on of the reason that people buys PS consoles)..the same goes with the lame COD dlc and MS
Except I really don't think it was Sony paying for all these games to be exclusive. Ps2 was the console that gamers overwhelmingly choose to be the number one console and if a developer wanted to concentrate on one machine to maximise quality (not a bad concept in my book) then it was going to be the machine where all the gamers were. If nothing else it calls into question question to often touted line competition is good and one console dominating is bad.
They should both have to make the same exact consoles. Then, if one does something, the other must agree to it first. All games must be released everywhere simultaneously...and all machines must be lime green.
3rd Party = The Wild Card. You know what 1st party games your mainly or mostly going to get, it's the unknown that really gets people talking.
Yeah ps2 had all the 3rd party exclusives .
And look how amazing that era was. 3rd party exclusives have been around for a long time, I don't know why people are starting to complain now.
It hurts when non-exclusive third parties are suddenly becoming exclusive
Because they can't accept that the game will not be coming to their console/PC.
its the era of entitlement to complain and b**** about things you would never have complained and b****ed about untill someone felt like complaining and b****ing about something they never would have complained and b****ed about.
tell me about it -.-
At Gamescon one company, by announcing a third party exclusive, effectively declared they wanted to play dirty. What do you expect their competitor to do, roll over and die? Now their competitor is taking steps to remain competitive and this blog writes this me-is-cry article!
This started back in 1997 with Sony paying to make Tomb Raider 2 exclusive.
Man look at you trying to make excuses for this, the truth is, if you bashed Microsoft for the Tomb Raider deal but you support the exact same practice from Sony, then you are a hypocrite and that's it, not only that but we all know most of the people here are hypocrites and most of them would bash Microsoft anyways without them securing exclusives because at the end of the day they are just insecure fanboys, that's it really
@blockcoc Naw, wayyy earlier than that. Konami had metal gear and castlevania games on the nes 10 years earlier that never appeared on Sega master system or genesis. Capcom's Mega man was exclusive on Nintendo for a while too. Tecmo's ninja gaiden stayed on nes, sunsoft's blaster master 2 was exclusive to sega's system I believe. The list goes on and on.
@P_Bomb Were them exclusives previously on them other platforms though? The first Tomb Raider was on PS and Sega Saturn and then became exclusive with Tomb Raider 2.
@gaming247 Your example works both ways. If you didnt have a problem with the TR deal then dont cry about SF5. Fankids
@blockcoc, yeah TR was PS and Saturn but Sony didn't pay for TR2. If they did I want to see a link. It's more to do with the fact that by the time TR2 cane out the Saturn was already on the way side. TR3 was also only on PS1 until DC came and got ported.
Truth. I was shocked to see so many people complain about TR. I thought after last gen, Microsoft became famous for things like that, and realistically, hate it or love it, they have every right to do that, but I didn't really play the last TR, so I was wondering if the outrage was because this TR was a direct sequel to the previous one storywise, I dont know, but that could definitely be grounds for rage.
All it does is hurt the developer by less sales. If i only owned an xb1, then sf5 just became irrelevant. Thats bad for the dev, not the consumer. Their loss.
But it helps the developer by lower development costs since he's making the game for only 1 console.
I think people are jumping to conclusions way too fast with this whole SF5 thing. Yeah it says exclusive in the trailer, but we don't know the whole story. The trailer is Japanese, and a leak. We've had no comment from Capcom and Sony, or MS. The trailer has been ripped offline and Capcom has been going after anyone posting it, including Maximillian. People need to wait to hear the whole story before going nuts over this stuff. And I agree third party exclusives are bad for gamers. If we find out Sony funded SF5 and it never would have existed without them, similar to Dead Rising 3 and Bayonetta 2, then okay that's different. If it was just straight up paid off not to be put on the other console like say Tomb Raider probably was, then that sucks. People buy a 400 dollar console and have companies keep things from them.
I agree but there have been rumours for a while now about SF5 and its SF after all I can't see capcom not making 5 until Sony offered to fund it but who knows I won't mind if Sony funded it then like you say it wouldn't have happened without them and I'd just play it on ps4 but I like to play SF with friends in not gonna say we'll just drop the £300/£350 and get it that's insane so we will just have wait and see
You have a point. With Deep Down that game is co developed with SCEJ which explains why it is a PS4 exclusive. This could also be some kind of agreement with Sony losing the Monster Hunter series to Nintendo that Capcom is repaying them with this game at least in Japan. This could well be a Japanese exclusive.
Where were these articles when Xbox one secured Titanfall, Dead rising 3 and Tomb raider. Now Sony does for one title, all these sites go on rampage about its hurting the industry. Now M$ knows karma is a B***h
we all have seen this media bias whenever MS is in a tough spot, no matter how hypocritical it is. lets not forget MS track record. its not gonna stop sony and the freight train that they have pushed down the hill. this is only the beginning.
Well for the millionth time Respawn offered Titanfall to Sony and Sony did not want it. Microsoft FUNDED Dead Rising 3 in the same way Nintendo funded Bayonetta. Dead Rising 3 never would have existed without MS paying for it and it's basically first party. Tomb Raider, who the hell knows.
And Sony funded SF5... Capcom stated in their interviews they're not in a good financial position to develop SF5 due to rising cost of developing next gen games. So Sony funding Capcom deserves backlash from the media but not Dead rising 3?
If Sony did fund it and help with development as opposed to writing a big fat check just for the sake of it, it's not a bad thing at all. 3Rd party exclusives are good sometimes. It's the same thing with Nintendo and Bayonetta 2. If it wasn't for them, the game would not exist.
"Well for the millionth time Respawn offered Titanfall to Sony and Sony did not want it." Exactly. Just like Phil Spencer said the TR deal was available to Sony. If Sony can't say no to a 3rd party without worrying that a multiplat will turn into an MS exclusive, what are they supposed to do? "Microsoft FUNDED Dead Rising 3 in the same way Nintendo funded Bayonetta." This may not be the case every time, but mark my words: "X game wouldn't have happened if Y hadn't funded it" will become the go-to CYA excuse for money-hatting. Does anyone really think a publisher like EA wouldn't have been able to fully fund a FPS made by the team that popularized COD? Come on. Time to calibrate the BS detectors.
Same for street fight 5 and Sony pretty much, capcom claimed they didn't have the funds for the game. Then about a month later the Sony hadoken cabs advert came out and now this. I'm guess Sony hit them with the mulla to put out this game.
It's not just "karma;" it's survival. Sony declined to do exclusive deals with a number of 3rd party games that became Xbox exclusives. MS essentially made the 3rd party landscape an "us or them" scenario. If Sony can't count on MS to join them in a unified "no" when 3rd parties start shopping titles to save their pubs money, is Sony supposed to sit back and keep losing titles? Are PS fans supposed to go beyond lamenting that things are this way to being as equally outraged as they were losing TR that they are not missing out on SF V, at the expense of those responsible for the current climate? I'd love to see some of the people crying hypocrisy answer those questions.
I'll answer your question with a bubble, nicely put bro.
FYI, the same site did an article on the matter when the Tomb Raider thing happened. They looked at it from both sides of the fence
The butt hurt is sore on this one!!!
I hope to god that everyone doesn't start doing it it was bad enough when Microsoft did it now Sony is doing it back it's not gonna end well for gamers what happened to platform exclusive dlc can we not go back to that so Xbox guys can at least play it I hope that this is like titanfall where the first iteration is exclusive but then the next game isn't in this case the inevitable super street fighter 5 and when titanfall 2 is announced for all platforms. Side note what happened to Sony guys saying that this was an underhanded tactic but now Sony has done it, it's now just how things are. God I hate fan boys
"Side note what happened to Sony guys saying that this was an underhanded tactic but now Sony has done it, it's now just how things are." I refer you to my comment above. You can't put all the expectation upon one set of gamers (PS fans) to sacrifice for the greater good while others carry on selfishly.
no i completely understand your point there is a BIG difference between mindless sony fanbois and Sony fans. i don't have a preference for system but i still care that Microsoft brought exclusivity for the first titanfall and others because then my friends that only have a playstation couldn't play it and i feel the same way about this. its a waste of money in the long run when they could be spending that money on new ips or anything else really.
@xX1NORM1Xx Agreed. That's why I lament the situation. Resources are being wasted paying for something that was previously free, all because of artificial demand. Even with Sony helping with the development of SF, I'm still kind of suspicious about these deals. I'm always going to question just how sincere a dev/pub is when they say they wouldn't have been able to make a game if a console maker hadn't stepped in. It's like, would SF, Titanfall, etc. have not been made had Sony/MS not jumped in? I have my doubts. It just seems like a too convenient way to dodge accusations of taking a money-hat.
Why is the media so harsh on Sony but turns a blind eye to Microsoft?
Lol you are joking right i saw god knows how many articles about the microsoft deal with tomb raider and lots of playstation fans saying how bad it was to do that.
Difference is that Microsoft paid for exclusive rights to tomb raider, whereas Sony funded Capcom to make SF5. SE stated in an interview that they're not in a good financial position to create SF5 because of the rising cost of game development on the PS4/XB1. Microsoft on the other hand paid to keep it on the XB1 for however long the contract last (that is why it's timed).
FYI, the same site did an article on the matter when the Tomb Raider thing happened. They looked at it from both sides of the fence http://amhnetwork.com/rise-...
how much did the last street fighter game sold?? I think this game really doesnt gets much attention. Wheres the good old Tekken :(
Including all the editions of SF4 about 8mil
Have you been living under a rock? Street Fighter is a huge name, and is always very popular.
Really now? It was pretty good during the NES years, SNES years, Playstation One years, PS2 years where 3rd party exclusives were at their highest. So why is it now that it is a bane of gaming? Squarenix even said that their PSone & PS2 years were their finest and most of the games released were exclusives. Capcom were at their best with exclusives like Resident Evil, Breath of Fire, Devil May Cry debuts. Konami as well, in fact a lot of the Japanese developers had their best years as exclusives.
Agreed. We've seen a lot of high quality 3rd party games during those eras. But starting from last gen when 3rd party games such as RE, FF, DMC, Silent Hill, Ace Combat, Ridge Racer, or GTA gone multiplat than suddenly their quality gone downhill. Just look at the abomination such as RE 5 & 6, AC: Assault Horrizon, DmC, FF 13 trilogy, and GTA IV. Of course some of those titles can bounce back, example like GTA V or RE Revelations. And a couple of exception like MGS or DoA 5 who still maintain their quality. But the rest still trying their way to the golden era. The funny thing is...we don't see this kind of article on video games magazine back in NES to PS2 era. So why started now???
Because too many people just want everything on their own little box. They want Nintendo to go third party so they can play their games on whatever system they bought, they want all the third parties to make all the games on every system so they don't have to shell out more money on another system. As much as I hate the word, this is what actual gaming entitlement looks like. It's funny how many people say "competition is good" and then get upset when competition happens. More third party exclusive is good, making a game for one system is usually going to lead to a better product focused on the capabilities on that system. It differentiates the multiple platforms from one another and gives people a reason to buy more than one system, especially when third parties get into the mix. Exclusives going to all three of the major players is a great thing, who wants to have a bunch of black boxes that are separated by nothing more than the company name on the box?
They're not hurting gaming and have pretty much been around since gaming started.
If the money goes into making the games better then it doesn't matter to me, if it just goes into someone's back pocket then it's not so good and is a waste.
no one felt sorry for me when Capcom made Dead Rising 3 exclusive.
Oh Gawd. This thing gets waaay too many articles /attention.
the upside is most of the comments are arguing the point, so thats good atleast :')
Werent we getting 38 articles an hour during the Tomb Raider crisis?
As far as i remember it's like 5-6 articles, but after that most people forget it because of TGS.
Seems like Capcom is favouring PS first with Deep Down and now SFV. Lets hope they bring back Monster Hunter. :D
God I swear most gamers/journalist only started gaming in the PS3/360 generation.
This is why their editorials/opinions on gaming mean shit to me. Ive been gaming longer then these kids and for fun not money. Posers
Who cares. Fighting games are getting old and I personally can't even remember the last time I bought a street fighter game. Plus if you realy want a fighter just buy mortal kombat for xbone. Or play killer instinct . I don't know about you but I'm not paying 69.99 for the same old street fighter experience. When is someone going to do something new instead of bringing out rehashes of old games .video gaming is not what it use to be.
Wow so who cares? I guess you do.
I am an Xbox gamer and I have no problem with SF 5 being exclusive. I encourage it. It promotes each console in having unique software. It's not hurting gaming if it makes you need to buy both consoles. It helps the gaming industry. Fail article.
Wasn't it true that last gen companies like Square made games with lower specs to cater to the weaker 360 or something like that? If PS4 exclusivity allows for a better game, I can't argue.
Honestly this game isn't coming out until 2018. I'll withhold my outrage until we are closer to that release date
I honestly feel like third party titles are far better when they are exclusive. Putting it on more platforms equals longer development time, less content and more bugs. As far as SF goes it doesn't really bother me I haven't cared for the series since third strike, to top it off most of the series fans are on playstation seriously if you have xbox for fighting games your doing it wrong.
Meh. Owning only one console doesn't entitle anyone to anything. You own a console that a game you're interested in is not available for? Either buy that console the game you're interested in is available for, deal with the games available for the console you do own, or do without. Playing everything on the market is a PRIVILEGE, not a right! For the record, I think the industry could use some more third-party exclusives since what I didn't like about the last generation was the general lack of differentiation between the 360 and the PS3's libraries.