PlayStation Europe boss Jim Ryan doesn't believe that DriveClub's troubled launch damaged Sony's reputation, and that fans "understand that mistakes [happen] as long as you apologise and make them right".
Oh sony, you can bet it did. Just think better.
I honestly agree with him. I feel like drive club wasn't a big enough disaster on a big enough game to really hurt their reputation. When you put everything in perspective I think it is and will be looked at as just a small blip. I haven't yet had the negative ambiance surround the thought of Sony as I have with companies like EA or Ubisoft concerning their respective mishaps. I don't know if the reason is because I think of all of sony's developers as seperate companies unlike the others, but I definately have no hesitation to buy more of their upcoming games. Maybe the next evolution game.... But that's about it lol.
Agreed, it will have damaged the reputation of Evolution but not Sony.
It's a small blip indeed. But denying the damage, especially if you think on the PSN Plus perspective, you just can't.
It is another proof that Sony's network still sucks. How is this not damaging?!
@Alsybub: i guess you're right. as much as i hate the launch of broken games, i don't think Sony's image was damaged with DC. Evolution's image on the other hand.. tch tch. remember Lair? i think the devs got flamed for putting the motion sensors as the only way to control the dragons. devs probably got flamed because sony lets devs do what they want to do.. so inevitably it became the devs fault for that move. DC probably falls under the same category. will i buy the game after i pick up a PS4. yes. definitely yes. it takes years and years of deliveries of terrible games to blame the publishers. for example EA and now Ubisoft. these two publishers have tied devs hand and made them release broken, stupid games again and again.
@palitera How is it going with Halo MCC on multiplayer?? Did you like the DDOS earlier last week by lizard squad> Take your comment and shove it because both network are not perfect. Each have a problem of their own. I didnt want to attack you, but your comment is idiotic. Have you ever sat down and think that its not the network that is the problem but the game itself.
Hands who's getting drive club 2? thought so...
It's not much of a hit. It's a bit bleak for Evolution and their fans but Sony already walked it off. The only things damaged are our game expectations, pleasure of riding the hypetrain and a little bit of faith towards the pre-ordering and announcements.
Maybe it didn't damage their reputation, but it scuppered an opportunity to build on it. PSN doesn't have a great reputation relative to Live (rightly or wrongly, Live is perceived as having stronger multiplayer infrastructure), so a major first party game releasing well would have gone some way towards established PSN as a worthy rival.
It might not hurt Sony in the long run, but I think the answer and the attitude will surely hurt Sony in the long run!
it has hurt their reputation because the issues with driveclub get compounded due to every time psn has issues and is down for maintenance. consumers have been questioning sony's online infrastructure for years and driveclub's issues with no psn plus version in sight highlights these issues even more. lengthy delays in messages getting delivered and the way trophies syn. also reflect on the network.
I hate people that have no clue about PSN. During maintenance you can not access the store or your account info. You can still play online and chat and message and all that stuff. I'm kind of suprised people still even make this comment, cause people with PSN knows what goes on.
you can play online as long as you log in at a certain time period. why cant you explain why they need to shut off certain service in order to do maintenance and not be able to do this in the background? why didn't you comment on why messages take so long to get to the receiver? why didnt you comment about how trophies sync? or why they still cant release the plus version of driveclub yet still sell the game online? dont just cherry pick one area and hit disagree because you dont want to admit the service has issues that should have been addressed long ago.
Looking at the sales, maybe not, but word of mouth can kill you. They have a long road to recover their goodwill. Honestly though, you can't expect him to answer a loaded question like this with any other answer. It's his job to make it right, not give up hope. By acknowledging the problem and following through on the plan to correct the issues, he's standing by the people who bought the game. Only time will tell if it will be enough.
Actually I think word of mouth is HELPING Driveclub. While the initial reviews weren't kind to the game, those of us who bought it and are playing it are loving it! I dont' hesitate for a second to tell people to try it out because the game is a blast!
Playstation and Apple have the most loyal fanbases on the planet. I don't think this in near enough to cause any real back lash. M$ was probably hurt more by Halo's network issues. That game is way more important, and even if they sell millions, I am sure they lost just as many who would have bought it on the hype alone. Plus prior to this problem, Xbox was riding high on their network being supper stable. Even though this is a coding issue, it will still hurt that image.
Yup. Microsoft lost me. Was planning on getting xbox1 for the halo remasters but I decided not to because of the issues. I don't think anyone is refusing to buy ps4's because of driveclub's issues. Ps4's reputation definitely wasn't damaged. Maybe a few gamers but definitely not the gaming community.
Yes it did, and it taught me never to buy another launch game again. I will wait a few weeks before buying games in future. Also i will NEVER buy a digital purchase again.
That is smart practice now days period.
Interesting article mate.
I don't think it did much damage, I'm still looking forward to playing the game myself.
It's the best driving experience I've ever had, was playing online last night until 4pm. Sooo pretty.
Challenges online are great! Anyway, game sold in decent numbers, so i don't think Sony's or Evolution's reputation is damaged.
I agree. The game is awesome. People jump on the hate train without even playing it themselves. That's why Sony's reputation wasn't hurt by this... Because the game is actually good.
Oh I don't believe it would damage their reputation, even if it does it would be small. Now I can't say the same thing to Evolution Studios tho. Regardless, it would be pretty annoying. Even tho I have to say, I don't like the way he commented about this, seems like he is trying to make it seem like it wasn't a problem.
It didn't damage their reputation. With all due respect Evolution aren't a hugely popular studio. If it was Santa Monica or Naughty Dog then I would think differently.
Just make sure something like this doesn't happen again Sony.
Not far off being the game it promised to be tbh , sort the online bug out and game matching time and all will be good.
It went from the "Forza Horizon 2 killer", to "oh sh*t, nothing online works, no weather system included, floating cars syndrome". Driveclub goes down as the most hyped to biggest disaster I've ever seen in gaming history.
Nope. He's right.
Owning both FH2 and DC, the former is way more like butter on a frying pan. Forza is offroad and slippery as hell. DC is known as a grippy racer. You up there are not the sharpest knife. I prefer DC's driving model to be honest. And the graphics are a pretty big step up.
You've never heard of "Rise of the robots" or "Daikatana" then .
It was promised as a launch game, they delayed it a year, it came out BROKEN. Not to mention the fact they PROMISED a free version along side it and that still has yet to be mentioned as well as the fact it's been how long since launch and the game is still unplayable? You can bet it has been damaged and by the time it gets fixed either no one will care or Gran Turismo 7 will be near launch and everyone who wanted a good racing sim will just wait for that. The devs F'd this up, there is no excuse for it.
"It was promised as a launch game..." Please show me one time they ever said that it was "promised". "...it came out BROKEN." Only the online had issues, how does that equal "BROKEN" when single payer/offline worked fine? "Not to mention the fact they PROMISED a free version along side it and that still has yet to be mentioned..." Again show me these "PROMISED" quotes, and they have mentioned it since launch, maybe you're just too busy trolling to notice. "...as well as the fact it's been how long since launch and the game is still unplayable?" Unless you are talking about the free version being unplayable just stop cause you clearly have no idea what you're even hating on.
Guess you have forgotten about it being said that it was to be a PS4 launch title by Evolution & Sony in the lead up to PS4's launch day but then it got delayed and also they did say that the PS+ version was also going to be out on release day for those who wanted to try it out for free first so yes it was "promised" as a launch title
"it's been how long since launch and the game is still unplayable?" WRONG! It is VERY playable and is an awesome game! Don't spout out drivel as fact when you have no clue what you're talking about.
Its definitely one of the reasons why I never bought it, that and its mediocre feedback it got. I made the mistake by buying destiny at launch and buying assassins creed unity at launch. Sony also advertised everywhere that there will be a psn plus version for free and never released it. Don't make promises you can't keep.
Damage their reputation? LMAO Sony is made of Teflon right now , the media has been trying to hurt Sonys rep since the PS4 launched yet its still the #1 selling console in the world. People need to get over Driveclub. It wasn't even that big of a deal , just let it go already.
Teflon emits toxic fumes when overhyp..er..heated.
A bad launch is going to cause a bad reputation, but it's the way you pick yourself up and move of forward ensuring that the game works how intended and the same issue doesn't occur for other game launches. Please don't become arrogant. Acknowledging, apologising and fixing are much better approaches than denial.
Evo maybe but not Sony. This was a dev issue.
It's a joke this game doesn't' have a replay mode out of the gate.
It definitely did. Don't know how badly, but it definitely damaged their reputation. Not that their psn reputation was so high to begin with.
I love playing this game, and in the end I think that's what matter most. I know it was a rough launch time period for a new IP due to the online issues, but the solo mode kept me busy long enough for a lot of those things to get sorted out. Glad challenges are online now too. I'm definitely excited to see what future content will be provided for Driveclub, and very excited to see what Evolution will do next. Studios learn from mistakes, and I'm sure they've taken notes.
Millions of glassy eyed followers won't notice.
Haha something tells me absolutely no research was done into that. That comment itself just adds more fuel to the damage done. I was planning on buying it, at one point questioned whether to pre-order it. I don't plan on buying it at all now. Which is perfectly understandable & I would at a guess assume many, many, many people share that opinion. What it has done more than anything is affected peoples opinions on pre-ordering games in general & the industry as a whole may suffer for it partially. IMO that's a good thing as the industry obviously does need a kick up the ass as the current state of it is a joke!
Damaged no, finished yes.
depends how you feel about companies blatantly pulling a bait and switch, because driveclub may be the greatest bait and switch the games industry has ever witnessed
Game was boring to see, let alone play (and YES I did both).
fans "understand that mistakes [happen] as long as you apologise and make them right". #forzakiller "Has it damaged our reputation? I don't think so." #forzakiller "When you spend £50/£60 on a game you're entitled to expect that it works," #forzakiller "It is going slowly, but, you know, they tried to do the best" #forzakiller hahahahahaah... forzakiller.
EVO's rep has been damaged without a doubt! But can they turn this around? New tracks, new cars, weather effects & new gaming modes? Assuming online is fixed to a degree that most if not everyone is happy? Please note, I don't think everyone is ever happy LoL
Actually I prefer it to Forza. Most here have never played it and have mostly listened to and read horror stories. Well I can tell you. The game is nothing short of excellent. Handling is sweet, Sim and arcade. Engine sounds are spot on. Graphics are excellent. It feels like your driving a RACE CAR. I do agree it was a mistake releasing it until it was totally ready. But they have given free tracks and other downloads free of charge. MP works no problem now.
DC is an excellent game. Most of the people whining are just drama queens. The top club just passed a billion points which is batshite insane. People really need to get over launch issues lol. They miss out on a gorgeous and fun racer.
I find this kind of story funny. They ask Sony this kinda of question but will these same people or anyone else ask Microsoft the same thing about Halo MCC? In the gaming community we should stop with the console parity and focus on parity in the media and how they cover both Sony and Microsoft. We read all the time about the "console war". Well this war is spawned and fed by the American Media and If you take out the American Media there is no console war we'd just have gamers gaming.
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