According to analysts, the Xbox One accounted for over half of all consoles purchased on Black Friday. Is the Xbox One's Black Friday victory a turning point for the console?
Better price I think.
I think the black friday huge sales means this, 1. it took microsoft to make a very aggressive attack on the ps4 as far as pricing and games included to try and outsell it. meaning consumers see the xbox one should be cheaper. 2. it also means microsoft is once again only able to do well in few areas, namely north america and the uk. 3. last and not least it means microsoft is willing to take losses in order to maintain a level of marketshare but how long will they continue this approach? what microsoft must do now is invest in ip's that they can own. they need to convince the gaming public they are serious investors to gaming. not just looking for a few acquisitions from third party support that will later come to its competitors. they also need to come out next year with a slim model for $299 (without kinect, $369 with kinect) including a game packaged in.
Interest analysis Price is definitely a factor... Consider for a moment the Sony pulled the PS Camera in order to have a price advantage. Some might say that was the first price cut, and it happened before launch. That's the reason every PS4 shipped with PlayRoom, and why ALL controllers have the light on the front. The X1 was the more expensive console for 7 months, ppl tend to forget that when talking the X1 price advantage in November.
Xbox one dominating Black Friday means more Halo headshots on Saturday morning for Halo fans! Duh?! Play more games, not sales...
@Foehammer: Sony has stated a number of times that the reason they cut the camera from release wasn't due to it increasing the launch price, but because they didn't want to take a bigger loss per console sold. $400 was the price they were always going to sell it for, camera included.
@What does Xbox One dominating Black Friday mean? It means that Microsoft sold alot of Xbox One consoles on one day out of the week, but anyone keeping track of the ratio of PS4's to Xbox One's being sold, in order for the Xbox One to have outsold the PS4 in November, the Xbox One would had to have maintained a minimum 3 to 1 sales ratio over the PS4 for at least 3 weeks in November. Numerically and statistically speaking, it didn't happen.
Still don't understand how someone can run w/ a small study by a single group that accounts for most likely only around 1,500 console sales & call it definitive enough to post factual articles about it. We have literally no idea which console sold more at this point, InfoScout's study was conducted in Microsoft's own backyard and accounts for such a small number of consoles that its completely negligible. I'll be interested to see the actual numbers, but this study proves absolutely nothing.
Yup the better deal on black Friday was XB1, all bundles 330$. I picked up the Assassin Creed bundle, but there where Madden bundles and at Wal-Mart a Halo MCC bundle. But I also already have a PS4 and WiiU already so at that price and to complete the current gen it was an easy decision.
Nice to see the underdog getting a win. Well done MS
I hardly think they count as an underdog...
Who is then?
^^^^^ If you have to ask who, that is just ignorant. Nintendo and Sony are both underdogs compared to MS. Microsoft are much bigger than both of them, the money they make each year is crazy, the money they spend on advertising and the the price cuts and they can take the hit because of the cash cow they have with windows os. Not to mention it's MS back yard being America.
@Septic Erm, Nintendo maybe. Certainly would not class MS as a underdog.
@Septic The company that is apparently "going broke" and doesn't have Microsoft money yet still managed to make a more powerful console with less funds...That company.
Just because MS is the bigger company overall, doesn't mean they are the top dog for video games.
Sony sold 82.3 million PS3's, over 155 million PS2's, and and 102.49 million PS1's. Nintendo sold 101.23 million Wii's for first place last generation. Please quit it with the underdog talk.
@spring You are incorrect. Size wise Sony is bigger than both msft and Nintendo. They own the most amount of assets and IPs. For example Sony's Columbia pictures and MGM arm account for hundreds of thousands of film distribution and creation rights alone. To boot the number of factories Sony owns around the world is staggering. You have to remember Microsoft is first and foremost an OS company so it's all software for the most part. On the revenue side no doubt Microsoft is making a lot more money, but as any finance major can tell you you typically don't compare a physical goods manufacturer with a software IT company as net profit margins a completely different.
Even with the original Xbox they weren't an underdog. They just have too much power and money to be considered some scrappy competitor. They've also been in gaming too long now to be considered a newcomer. No one ever considered Sony an underdog when they first came into the console space. I have no idea how some people consider MS one. They gained enough market share last gen to be considered a major player. To put it another way, the underdog does not have hundreds of millions in marketing going on, and more TV commercials in prime time than most other companies out there...regardless of product being sold. To me, the underdog cannot really make it in the console space today. It just costs too much, and isn't like the days when Sega came around and were an underdog. The days of those struggling consoles which will make or break a company are over. Console divisions from Sega, Atari(which started and ended as an underdog despite their success for a while), NEC, etc would be considered underdogs. Today, the only one I can think of is Ouya, which is a rather specialized type console and doesn't compete with the big 3.
The Xbox One is the underdog versus the PS4?! Yes! But MS vs. Sony & Nintendo as companies is not.
That parents buying presents buy cheaper bundles. All year vs black Friday/November bundles ..... cmon... calm down!
So last holiday when one was $100 cheaper.. Price had nothing to do with it according to some.. I keep seeing this now and it makes me chuckle... Of course price plays a big part
Price didn't have much to do with it when they were both the same price for most of the year. Price at launch probably had something to do with it, but last holiday, finding a PS4 was pretty hard. Price probably had something to do with this holiday. And the price was amazing for a solid console. Hard to pass up that value if you want to enter next gen. I did because there are just too many games I'm buying over the next few months. Realistically though, at launch, price isn't that big of a deal. Even at $500-600 the PS4 still sold out. Same with the 360 at $400-500.
Black Friday is all about finding the best deal, and since you have two consoles that do the same thing 95% of the time it comes down to price.
Didn't they both sell close to the same this black friday though? Looking at the deals, the price difference wasn't huge except for one bundle of the X1, but that was really just a $70 difference. Hardly a reason to not go with the preferred console for something that people will be using for the next 5 years. I think the value of the X1 and some of the bundles was better overall, but $400 with 2 games for a PS4 is apparently enough to entice people to buy the system. Nowadays, I don't think parents are going into shops and looking at the price difference and saying..."Well little timmy wanted a PS4, but the X1 is $70 cheaper so we'll get him that." Kids can be pretty specific about what they want, and some parent willing to spend $350 for a christmas present will likely also be selling $400. The price drop was for people that were on the fence, or just didn't want to spend $400+ for next gen.
Better than half, better than I expected.
No proof just hope eh?
Go troll somebody else, loser. I dont need hope cause I can care less who sells more. As long as I get the best games im happy. And my X1 is giving me the best games so.... hop of my ****.
since most people got the PS4 first a lot of this might be second consoles....
Thats just What they think doesnt mean xbox outsold the ps4 yes x1 might of moved hell alot of units doesnt mean x1 could outsell the ps4
Actually it could.. Its you that think it cant
No it doesn't, 1-numbers have not been released yet to say ms dominated bf. 2 if ,I mean a big if ms won bf by how many,to dominate u have to win by a lot of numbers 3 really for some people to go off some stupid receipt website to claim victory 4- ms may have sold out at more spots than Sony , but how many where placed in each store to compare sold out , there could of been 80 ps4s for every 40 x1s. So hold ur horses till the official numbers hit.
Black Friday is all about finding the stuff for the cheapest price. So no surprise here.
Seeing as how this article is quoting gamespot, who in turn used infoscout who's poll was already posted in here a couple of days ago. I wonder why this wasn't marked as a duplicate article, or at the very least "additional source"?... At any rate it's a click bait title since final numbers haven't been released. For the sake of argument i'll simply say that if they did win black friday they would need to keep that momentum going through dec. by mixing up the bundled games and come next spring settling at a permanent price of $350 until the next e3. Personally i haven't made the jump to next gen, because there really isn't anything on either that i consider must-haves yet. And due to black friday i picked up san andreas (never played) AND just cause 2 for about $10 so i'm in no hurry at all.
Black Friday the one day phenomenon that see's people rush to stores and trample upon one and other for small savings on the run up to Christmas. A day when we all get to see the loss off all semblance off humanity. Hell women will go to war over a pair off tights (Maybe a bad example :D). But thankfully its a one day thing and the world returns to normal the next day ;).
"According to analysts" why dont we wait for official numbers instead of these stupid articles with no clear data to back up their claims.
I think it means most self respecting people wouldnt buy an xbox unless they get an awesome deal on it
I'd say that Microsoft and their aggressive pricing is working. At the end of the day, consumers are the winners. I know that this past weekend for the first time, I had more friends playin on Xbox one over the 360 since launch.
Simply means good for ms but old wide ps4 still sold a lot more so did this price drop and selling more really help? Selling the console at huge loss also is recipe for success
return of the king halo 2, told you
I think some gamers will have another surprise with the sales numbers... and the word dominating...
I am thinking I might go into the games journalism business, seems you can make up any old story without a shred of evidence and people will lap it up......easy money, no?
Then you'll have to start a Patreon account so you can milk money off of gullible fools. Also, if you're a man then use a female pseudonym and picture so that you can claim harassment then ask for donations. That's where the real money is at. Just ask Jim Sterling a.k.a. Susan Boyle.
Gees mweb why are you running this story, no one here even does Black Friday other than Checkers and they only started this year and another thing, saying that the Xbone (which had a price cut) dominated sales against the PS4 (which didnt) is a bit of a stretch and that is in the US, I can can tell you this in SA the PS4 and PS3 has no equal.
If this price was from the beginning, we would have no arguments about sales now.
Means if you drop the price they will buy
Lets see official numbers from real sources and a total of all sales b4 we claim anyone the winner.
Congratulations Microsoft on finishing the year on a high, its an amazing time to be an Xbox owner.
I want all consoles to be successful because it is needed for the growth of the hobby we all love. Hoping for one console to destroy the other is not good for business....even Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo will tell you that. In my opinion the better system has always been Xbox with Wii u in a close second followed by ps4. I own all 3 and besides second son and the PT demo my time with ps4 has been low. So iam sure some may share my opinion and realize the games have been on Xbox this whole time and this could be very worrisome for Sony because the initial hype train is out of gas.
What's with the gaming media's obsession with making a case for Xbox One? Is PS4 always going to be downplayed to make X1 look good?
In what way is the ps4 being downplayed? Everyone knows it's got nearly twice the installed base of the xb1...
Talk to me when it's at 199.
It means Microsoft found they might be able beat Sony on sheer value. They also likely found a new price point between $329-$349. Had a couple buddies buy an X1. At those prices it is a no brainer if you don't already have a console.
it means MS had to really really cut prices like never before just to get the foot hold in US.
That dramatic price cuts actually work, what a shocker.......
It's an excellent result, and one that should be celebrated, but until the XB1 can string together a few months of back-to-back higher sales in NA and the UK - the markets where it's relevant - we can't really say it means anything in terms of the console going forward.
This isnt official in any way just armchair analysis. When the numbers come out then celebrate, or be a fankid and repeat speculation as fact. Not calling you one just not looking forward to this being repeated over wnd over when it hasnt been proven.
It means nothing. One month vs the whole year. The PS4 has nothing to worry about. In 2015 Sony could decide to drop the price of the PS4.
Very true, Sony is also so far ahead with their over 10million copies that it'll take a long time for MS to catch up. But, where BF is concerned it's a well done to MS
Without Kinnect, the XB1 is at the right price. Although... I still feel MS should had took the hit and did a real price drop with Kinnect included to $399. If anyone missed out on those black Friday deals, here's an even better one. Newegg.com has Microsoft Xbox One Assassin's Creed Unity Bundle on sale for $329.99 - $30 w/ promo code CMPAYPAL30 (must use PayPal Checkout) = $299.99. Shipping is Free
It doesn't matter much, it's just one day. An important day, but it doesn't change the tides of the war. If anything, it just solidifies the notion that MS needs to keep their console cheaper than the ps4
Lotta mamaws buying gifts for little billy ?
First, if the X1 sold more on black Friday, which I don't know and there is no official information apart from vague studies who only count scanned receipts, it would mean: That Microsoft is taking a loss in order to make the X1 cheaper than the PS4. It doesn't mean X1 is winning the sales as everyone knows the PS4 has been outselling the X1 for a year worldwide. One good month is not equal to leafing in sales. This is simple math but there are people insinuating it.
No I think k your insecurities are insinuating it, not one person on here has said xb1 is leading after one month of sales in first place. Ps4 is definitely winning, ps4 would have continued to rape xb1 if it stayed at 500. Xb1, is a cheap made system I guarantee they are not losing that much dropping the price on it. Sony can not drop the price on their machine cause they will lose money on each system. They probably make 5 dollar on each ps4 sold, they drop it to 350 they lose money.
They were selling Xbones for nearly $200 cheaper than what they were a year ago at launch lol of course they sold a lot.
It means people don't care about graphics, or best machine, not in North America atleast. They just want a cheap console that can play popular games. Xb1 priced at 500 was ridiculous, there is no value there, but 350 it starts to look to valuable. Plus it's the holidays and cheap is always good.
Here's a possible reason: The Xbox One might be perceived as a bigger leap over the Xbox 360 than the PS4 is over the PS3. The Xbox One might be quite big but it's quiet and more reliable and the build quality is very sturdy on console, controller and (if you care about it which I don't) Kinect with a better headset included. That's a disadvantage of always being consistently good like Sony (well, apart from the 12-18 months of course when they always get in their stride instead). As far as some people are concerned, they end up needing to do more to stand out against their own past. The likes of Sunset Overdrive might be seen as the kind of wacky irreverence that keeps the gaming industry interesting. And, whilst it might be to their moral credit, Sony never seem to make a move that directly harms their competition. By comparison, Microsoft bought out Rare which, in theory, has some 'harm' to Nintendo. And Remedy is console exclusive to Xbox which also, in theory, harms PS4 because, at the time of Max Payne, the PS2 got versions of those first 2 games. And Sunset Overdrive won't be coming to PS4. The PS4's line up might as well be called PS3 part 2. Which might sound good for people rightly comfortable with the PS3 but where is their dangerous 'Insomniac-stealing' move? It looks like it is impossible for Gears of War to come to PS4 now: http://www.pushsquare.com/n... The PS4 is most of interest to die-hard Sony fans or those who want to reward them for supporting the PS3 well, those who must have the best graphics, casual players and those who, somewhat less relevantly now, regard them as the best place for indie games. That's a lot of people and the PS4 is probably going to sell the most this generation but the die-hard Xbox fans do not necessarily have a compelling reason to change, especially as Microsoft improves its indie game line up.