Just as i suspected. The guy actually said its still a concept so for all we know, in game xmb might not be here for another month. I tell you guys stop getting excited about this crap. In game xmb is a myth
@ Condoleezza Rice Indeed. So why is Xbox live $50 now?
/trolling
I love the new in-game XMB feature. This isn't something that I have my heart set on, but it would be nice to be able to browse the internet and access photos in-game as well. Again, I'm content with what they're giving to us (FREE at that), but I guess I'm being greedy.
I'm sure it would be difficult for them to do these things considering the memory requirements for this new feature might be high enough as is.
My favorite feature is the ability to switch games instantly. It would help streamline the game invitation process. I wonder if it works for Blu-Ray games as well. For example I'm playing GTA4 and get a Resistance Invite. So I just hit eject, pop in resistance and wait for it to show up in the menu and then jump right in.
THANKS SONY!
Regarding the trophy system.
I'm guessing they're not going for a directly quantifiable system. I don't think it's so much a gamerscore, as it is a collection.
I don't think there will be a number or anything attached to your name, but a sort of trophy "shelf" which other people can view. It'll expose the people who are clearly "achievement whores", since they'll have a ridiculously large collection of bronze and silver trophies.
Just a guess.
BTW how are they going to handle old games? Does the system read old save files or do I have to start over? Either way it's gonna make a bunch of games worth it to go through again.
great now we can start complaining about other stuff.......
where's the cross-game voice chat? where's the video store? where's Home? why can't they update it so there's an IR sensor in there? why do i have to put a game in the system when i want to play it? why can't we play 360 games on our PS3's? why can't my PS3 cook my dinner AND wash my clothes at the same time? why do i have to buy games, can't you just GIVE them to us?
Looking pretty good, and I really wanna see the trophy video. I'm much more curious about how that's going to work out.
I think it's safe to say it's dropping during E3? Better to drop something backed by this much anticipation in front of an E3 crowd (and the viewers at home) than silently in the night.
That was awesome XDXDXD Ok he said there will be a video for the trophies in a few days so I'm guessing we might see 2.4 next week. Damn I can't wait XDXDXD. Why are we paying for Live again??? Oh yeah because MS tells us its necessary okay XDXDXD
@sonarus hey just so you know, in the vid he said that the sound track from the xmb is a concept not the in game xmb. its quick to make a judgment like that. especially when you saw it fully functioning.
@sonarus, your right we have a while... dude its coming. And soon, they wouldn't of posted a official if not.
The real question is what will remain in the ingame XMB,
1)You don't need Internet to browse while playing games, 2)You don't need to look at the PS Store while in game 3)The Settings is a plus but do we really need to check network connections during in game? I can see this actually creating probs. 4)do we need to change users while in game... 5) no mention of a playlist option... 6) "voice chat" was in "their concept" I doubt it will make it unfortunately. He would of mentioned that for sure since that itself would be the biggest feature. 7) in game switching to other titles is a plus, but we all know that some people are going to $%@# over their save files while the HDD indicator light is blinking.
Also Home Beta users are probably going to get a huge update with game launching actually working flawlessly. I have a feeling that is why 2.4 took so long.
And what the heck, WHY IS THIS UPDATE A 2.4 IT DESERVES A WHOLE NUMBER. 3.0 being it's the biggest firmware update yet. Its also huge enough to warrant a larger number based on specs and improvements.
Unless Sony is saving the 3.0 title for "home" launching....
EDIT: to the fellow below me:
Dude say all the smack while you can. Once "Home" hits which happens to have all of those features plus REMOTE PLAY. I think you will cancel your Live account definitely then. Heck Microsoft might have to make Xbox Live Free just to keep the subscriptions of all the multi-console owners active.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I know alot of you fanboys were just soooo ecstatic to hear that the ps3 was finally catching up(sorta) to the 360...but wait wait wait...did you hear...You have to TURN OFF THE GAMES MUSIC to listen to your own music. HAHAHA leave it to sony to find some broke way to fix something j/k. But in my eyes the 360 has the still better online service. Even though cross game messaging is cool the 360 has alot more(cross game invites, cross game chat, UNIFIED SYSTEM, etc). Does it warrant $50 a YEAR, well that up to you. And before you tear me apart realize that this is not a fanboy comment, this is an opinion (plus I only own a PS3)
Edit: At the guy above me...(@ his Edit) Do you know this for certain or are you just another fanboy spouting thing you WISH would happen. Im going with the 2nd option
@ ofx360 With the addition of 2.40's in-game text massaging you will be able to send in-game and cross-game invites. I say this because the PS3 uses it's own massaging system for invites so they come to you like a standard message and you just have to click accept invite. Now with being able to access these messages in-game you will be able to see the invite and then accept. Of course, like all other games, even on the 360, you will have to quit your current game and insert the new game then accept the invite but they are cross-game no less.
Sorry, but once 2.40 hits, paying 50 bucks a year for Live will be without excuse. I play the PS3 and the 360 online all the time and to be honest, depending ont he game, they both are about the same in terms of lag and playability. COD4 plays exactly the same. UTIII is fast and furious, GT5:P is amazingly lag free and has 16 cars on the track. When the dev does what they need to do to make the online work, you get a flawless experience on the PSN and all for free.
Paying for an online gaming service has been silly for years as it has always been free on the PC and now that it is free on the PS3, there is little to no excuse as to why MS can't go with a free service.
And as for you having only a PS3... For some reason I have to say I doubt that...
@ Slimdaddy While i only have a ps3, i'm very happy about this. But to see sony fanboy go apesht about this and say "sad to see people pay for online" is just ridiculous. Ps3 maybe be catching up but it is still a LOOONG shot from Live. Live has GUARANTEED:Crossgame messaging, Crossgame invites, Crossgame chat, MSN, Video messaging, Ingame music, Crossgame invites, UNIFIED ONLINE, Achievements, etc. As for the ps3... nothing is guaranteed. Its more of a crap shoot, you might get this feature with this game but not with that game. Just look at MGO...sad. This is a step in the right direction for sony but they have a lot more steps to take before you fanboys start claiming superiority
p.s- Why would i spend $600 dollars on a console i dont like. (PSN-Ofx360) p.s.s- GT:P lag free??? Thats a laugh. I dont know how many times i had a car slingshot in front of me, spin out of control, then start shooting up and down the road causing others(as well as me)to spin out. Probably just happens me though right?
what i find hillarious about this is that everybody is so exited about this considering the xbox 360 has had these features right out of the box from day one and was out one year earlier and on top of that supposedly rushed to market aswell.
if you intend to disagree id like to know why as what ive said is fact.
sonarus lol, concept means that it's still undergoing its look it doesn't mean it isn't coming out.
Concept: an idea of something formed by mentally combining all its characteristics or particulars; a construct.
Developers will have artist that will make concept art as a rough draft for the final version. This is just giving us an idea of what it will be. So when released it might look different because it isn't the final version yet. With concept art it doesn't mean a certain character in a game won't be there but just might not look like that on the last stages.
In other words "concept" is another world for rough draft to give people an idea of the final vision.
I love it! The in game XMB is so comprehensive, not a mini version, or a side bar... the whole f*ckin deal, and for the fair price of $0.00. All in the same summer that we get the movie store on PSN. It's gonna be an increasingly difficult task to argue PSN isn't the best online experience for the best price (or lack there of).
Playstation Blog Text Hi everyone! We know you’re all patiently waiting for the next PS3 firmware update, v2.40, which includes XMB access in-game and Trophy support. The good news is that it’s coming soon, and you can now see how accessing the XMB from in-game will work in this video demo.
Shortly, we’ll be posting another video here on the PlayStation.Blog that shows the Trophy feature in action for the first time. At that time we’ll provide even more details on how firmware v2.40 will enhance your PLAYSTATION 3 experience.
Disapointing... With the power of the CELL, I was hoping to be able to run two games at the same time.
LOL, J/K.
That was a lot of talk for just a few features, but those are exactly the features I want, and we all know PS3 is taking a huge step in the right direction with this one. Can't wait for the added communication this will bring with my friends and clan mates. :D
NDN_Shadow I think this video was more on proof that it is actually possible on the PlayStation 3. I consider the second video the real video because it will be Sony's answer to XBOX 360 Achievements.
I agree man. This is awesome. He said that it works for a majority of the PS3 library. I wonder what PS3 games it does not work for as well as if it works during PS/PS2 games and movies. I guess we will see.
In movie XMB? I I don't see why not, but why would you need it? You can already access the XMB while watching movies lol. Granted you might have to exit your movie while looking at the internet or photo's...
But what other purpose would you need XMB functions during a movie?
I miss... ...downloading in the background while watching bluray movies. I don't know why it have to sign out from the network. Also shutdown after finished download would be sweet.
omg omg omg im game music confirmed hahahahahahhaha im soooo happpy xbox got nothing on ps3 now same featureds as xbox and saving me 50 bucks for a game xbox is DEAD!!!!!
Amen, I remember saying that when I first played Warhawk.
In game text are going to make for better clan options, which only a few titles has it from the get go i.e. rainbow 6 las vegas.
Also the ability to play with the setting with a blue tooth mic will also smooth things out. I can finally tell people in COd4 to fix thier EFFING "Wal-mart Special" Mic.
Its a working progress still.. I dont mind it because we are getting this for free. Besides I aint going to be using the music feature much because I focus on the single player expirience and also like to hear my team mates online. But I am more happy for the feature u can send messages while still in a game. That is sweet as can be and all free. :)
a Majority is more than 50%. Think about how many games are out. Fuzz math aside, you should be happy since probally all the sony published games will get the royal treatment atleast.
Warhawk, Uncharted, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, GT5:P, % Psn titles, Singstar, Buzz, Resistance Fall of man, Heavenly sword, Wipeout Hd, Motorstorm, The Eye of Judgment, Folklore, Formula One Championship Edition, MLB 07: The Show, Hot Shots Golf 5, Socom.
FW 2.4 is coming this tuesday. they always release on tuesdays. and also they always release right after they announce it. so yea tommorow its coming out!! omg... mgs4 trophy support??? if so then im gonna be playing mgs4 all over again on big boss extreeme just for that trophy
Ladies and Gentlemen;THIS is living!
Indeed. So why is Xbox live $50 now?
/trolling
I love the new in-game XMB feature. This isn't something that I have my heart set on, but it would be nice to be able to browse the internet and access photos in-game as well. Again, I'm content with what they're giving to us (FREE at that), but I guess I'm being greedy.
I'm sure it would be difficult for them to do these things considering the memory requirements for this new feature might be high enough as is.
My favorite feature is the ability to switch games instantly. It would help streamline the game invitation process. I wonder if it works for Blu-Ray games as well. For example I'm playing GTA4 and get a Resistance Invite. So I just hit eject, pop in resistance and wait for it to show up in the menu and then jump right in.
THANKS SONY!
Regarding the trophy system.
I'm guessing they're not going for a directly quantifiable system. I don't think it's so much a gamerscore, as it is a collection.
I don't think there will be a number or anything attached to your name, but a sort of trophy "shelf" which other people can view. It'll expose the people who are clearly "achievement whores", since they'll have a ridiculously large collection of bronze and silver trophies.
Just a guess.
BTW how are they going to handle old games? Does the system read old save files or do I have to start over? Either way it's gonna make a bunch of games worth it to go through again.
.
FREE.
Eric Lempel,05:06 in the video-"You'll have this VERY soon".
It's coming soon.Period.
now we can start complaining about other stuff.......
where's the cross-game voice chat?
where's the video store?
where's Home?
why can't they update it so there's an IR sensor in there?
why do i have to put a game in the system when i want to play it?
why can't we play 360 games on our PS3's?
why can't my PS3 cook my dinner AND wash my clothes at the same time?
why do i have to buy games, can't you just GIVE them to us?
EDIT: @CrashSharc..........yes you're right
why can't we play two games at once?
i'm disappointed........lol
lol, jk. Can't wait for the update. Hopefully all the whiners will just SHUT UP now :P
As soon as E3 comes..
I think it's safe to say it's dropping during E3? Better to drop something backed by this much anticipation in front of an E3 crowd (and the viewers at home) than silently in the night.
fark me
Ok he said there will be a video for the trophies in a few days so I'm guessing we might see 2.4 next week. Damn I can't wait XDXDXD. Why are we paying for Live again??? Oh yeah because MS tells us its necessary okay XDXDXD
Alot of people are hoping for an E3 release. I'm hoping much sooner. Like this Thursday.
hey just so you know, in the vid he said that the sound track from the xmb is a concept not the in game xmb. its quick to make a judgment like that. especially when you saw it fully functioning.
Yeah damn Sony. Why can't I play MGS4 and Pain at the same time. 2.4 fails lol.
might have been me. i'm an @sshole when i'm sleepy. LOL
goodnight all
Yeah, Do you wanna it ? Do you feel it?? LET ME HEAR IT!
LIVING BY ITSELF!
When will the madness stop?!
;-)
Either way, w00t w00t would be most appropriate I guess right now...or maybe when we get a concrete release date.
dude its coming. And soon, they wouldn't of posted a official if not.
The real question is what will remain in the ingame XMB,
1)You don't need Internet to browse while playing games,
2)You don't need to look at the PS Store while in game
3)The Settings is a plus but do we really need to check network connections during in game? I can see this actually creating probs.
4)do we need to change users while in game...
5) no mention of a playlist option...
6) "voice chat" was in "their concept" I doubt it will make it unfortunately. He would of mentioned that for sure since that itself would be the biggest feature.
7) in game switching to other titles is a plus, but we all know that some people are going to $%@# over their save files while the HDD indicator light is blinking.
Also Home Beta users are probably going to get a huge update with game launching actually working flawlessly. I have a feeling that is why 2.4 took so long.
And what the heck, WHY IS THIS UPDATE A 2.4 IT DESERVES A WHOLE NUMBER. 3.0 being it's the biggest firmware update yet. Its also huge enough to warrant a larger number based on specs and improvements.
Unless Sony is saving the 3.0 title for "home" launching....
EDIT: to the fellow below me:
Dude say all the smack while you can. Once "Home" hits which happens to have all of those features plus REMOTE PLAY. I think you will cancel your Live account definitely then. Heck Microsoft might have to make Xbox Live Free just to keep the subscriptions of all the multi-console owners active.
I know alot of you fanboys were just soooo ecstatic to hear that the ps3 was finally catching up(sorta) to the 360...but wait wait wait...did you hear...You have to TURN OFF THE GAMES MUSIC to listen to your own music. HAHAHA leave it to sony to find some broke way to fix something j/k. But in my eyes the 360 has the still better online service. Even though cross game messaging is cool the 360 has alot more(cross game invites, cross game chat, UNIFIED SYSTEM, etc). Does it warrant $50 a YEAR, well that up to you. And before you tear me apart realize that this is not a fanboy comment, this is an opinion (plus I only own a PS3)
Edit: At the guy above me...(@ his Edit) Do you know this for certain or are you just another fanboy spouting thing you WISH would happen. Im going with the 2nd option
when is home gonna get here and when it launches will home contain all this, or will it be added to over time
With the addition of 2.40's in-game text massaging you will be able to send in-game and cross-game invites. I say this because the PS3 uses it's own massaging system for invites so they come to you like a standard message and you just have to click accept invite. Now with being able to access these messages in-game you will be able to see the invite and then accept. Of course, like all other games, even on the 360, you will have to quit your current game and insert the new game then accept the invite but they are cross-game no less.
Sorry, but once 2.40 hits, paying 50 bucks a year for Live will be without excuse. I play the PS3 and the 360 online all the time and to be honest, depending ont he game, they both are about the same in terms of lag and playability. COD4 plays exactly the same. UTIII is fast and furious, GT5:P is amazingly lag free and has 16 cars on the track. When the dev does what they need to do to make the online work, you get a flawless experience on the PSN and all for free.
Paying for an online gaming service has been silly for years as it has always been free on the PC and now that it is free on the PS3, there is little to no excuse as to why MS can't go with a free service.
And as for you having only a PS3... For some reason I have to say I doubt that...
While i only have a ps3, i'm very happy about this. But to see sony fanboy go apesht about this and say "sad to see people pay for online" is just ridiculous. Ps3 maybe be catching up but it is still a LOOONG shot from Live. Live has GUARANTEED:Crossgame messaging, Crossgame invites, Crossgame chat, MSN, Video messaging, Ingame music, Crossgame invites, UNIFIED ONLINE, Achievements, etc. As for the ps3... nothing is guaranteed. Its more of a crap shoot, you might get this feature with this game but not with that game. Just look at MGO...sad. This is a step in the right direction for sony but they have a lot more steps to take before you fanboys start claiming superiority
p.s- Why would i spend $600 dollars on a console i dont like. (PSN-Ofx360)
p.s.s- GT:P lag free??? Thats a laugh. I dont know how many times i had a car slingshot in front of me, spin out of control, then start shooting up and down the road causing others(as well as me)to spin out. Probably just happens me though right?
Other than that, finally in-game XMB. And finally millions more complaints about stuff that PSN doesn't have that live has.
if you intend to disagree id like to know why as what ive said is fact.
lol, concept means that it's still undergoing its look it doesn't mean it isn't coming out.
Concept: an idea of something formed by mentally combining all its characteristics or particulars; a construct.
Developers will have artist that will make concept art as a rough draft for the final version. This is just giving us an idea of what it will be. So when released it might look different because it isn't the final version yet. With concept art it doesn't mean a certain character in a game won't be there but just might not look like that on the last stages.
In other words "concept" is another world for rough draft to give people an idea of the final vision.
How many bubbles have you lost trying to get fanboy of the month?
Anyway, everyone say it together now: Go Sony! Go Sony! This is one HUGE update, thank Sony for giving it to us for free!
should just be called... (everything we can steal off of xbox live version 1.2)
It says it will be out on the 2nd.
in game voice chat over all games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
come on sony make that 2.45 or 2.50 please
everybodys feedback you will get will request this the most next
so please then PSN owns more!!!
who agrees with me here? click it.
its offial!
I think it may be quite cool to be able to check for help or tips if you get stuck by accessing google during the game you are playing.
Hi everyone! We know you’re all patiently waiting for the next PS3 firmware update, v2.40, which includes XMB access in-game and Trophy support. The good news is that it’s coming soon, and you can now see how accessing the XMB from in-game will work in this video demo.
Shortly, we’ll be posting another video here on the PlayStation.Blog that shows the Trophy feature in action for the first time. At that time we’ll provide even more details on how firmware v2.40 will enhance your PLAYSTATION 3 experience.
............
With the power of the CELL, I was hoping to be able to run two games at the same time.
LOL, J/K.
That was a lot of talk for just a few features, but those are exactly the features I want, and we all know PS3 is taking a huge step in the right direction with this one. Can't wait for the added communication this will bring with my friends and clan mates. :D
I think this video was more on proof that it is actually possible on the PlayStation 3. I consider the second video the real video because it will be Sony's answer to XBOX 360 Achievements.
yes yes yessssssssssssssssss i love it
I I don't see why not, but why would you need it? You can already access the XMB while watching movies lol. Granted you might have to exit your movie while looking at the internet or photo's...
But what other purpose would you need XMB functions during a movie?
...downloading in the background while watching bluray movies. I don't know why it have to sign out from the network. Also shutdown after finished download would be sweet.
I hope we stay online while playing PS/PS2 games and while watching disk movies.
yeah 2.40 coming 2nd july. This is great news ps3 tops and its not over yet 2.40 next home PSN=no1 and its free.......
Isn't in the next FW update? Or did I hear him wrong?
Looks awesome by the way :D!
He said they will be talking about the trophies in the next walk though video within the next few days.
I also hope I can stream tunes from my computer to use as an in game soundtrack, as opposed to copying to the HDD.
Also, no cross game voice chat then?
trophy is in FW 2.4 listen to the last part again.. besides the trophy icon is in the video if u loook carefully and that is pretty much 2.4
God dammit its here...ish. In-shirt XMB, cool.
it's even better than I had hoped for.
as Condoleezza Rice said on the other side: THIS IS LIVING
;-P
I LOVE SONY!!!;)
Bubbles for everyone to!!!;)
This, Trophies, HOME, +The Games...LBP+MGS4+Killzone 2,Resistance 2 etc etc...
'THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT, THE FUTURE IS PS3' ;-P
PS1 = BRILLIANT
PS2 = BRILLIANT
PS3 = BRILLIANT;)
and yeah bubbles to everyone from me aswell.
Live in your world, play in ours.
PS3 In-Game XMB > Xbox 360 Guide
Wait was so worth it.
good stuff
im game music confirmed hahahahahahhaha im soooo happpy xbox got nothing on ps3 now same featureds as xbox and saving me 50 bucks for a game xbox is DEAD!!!!!
xbox got nothing on ps3 now you can say that agian.
You can't quite say that yet....
Once "Home" comes out however combined with update etc.
I don't think we will have cross game chat quite yet.
Awesome just awesome!!!! =)
Victory!!!
EDIT: FUNK IT BUBBLES FOR EVERYONE BECAUSE IM HAPPY
I CANT WAIT TO BUMP OZZY AND SNOOP TO MY TEKKEN HAHA
Spread the bubble luv.....
dude... man...guy...bird...rat...loose ...goose...cheif...ref...hef...
hahha
yeah
IT LIVESSSSSS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH!! LOL
I LOVE ALL MY FELLOW PLAYSTATION FANS!
*cries like one sick baby*
YES! in-game music
PS3 FTWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
And its free! 8D
Trophys FTW
Damn, it's good to be a PS3 gamer!
In game text are going to make for better clan options, which only a few titles has it from the get go i.e. rainbow 6 las vegas.
Also the ability to play with the setting with a blue tooth mic will also smooth things out. I can finally tell people in COd4 to fix thier EFFING "Wal-mart Special" Mic.
Holy crap inGameXMB and it's not BS this time.
"This Support the *majority* of game available on the PS3"
Does he mean the Music or the in-game XMB? I thought that the in-game XMB was going to be available in all games.
I dont mind it because we are getting this for free. Besides I aint going to be using the music feature much because I focus on the single player expirience and also like to hear my team mates online. But I am more happy for the feature u can send messages while still in a game. That is sweet as can be and all free. :)
Think about how many games are out. Fuzz math aside, you should be happy since probally all the sony published games will get the royal treatment atleast.
Warhawk, Uncharted, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, GT5:P, % Psn titles, Singstar, Buzz, Resistance Fall of man, Heavenly sword, Wipeout Hd, Motorstorm, The Eye of Judgment, Folklore, Formula One Championship Edition, MLB 07: The Show, Hot Shots Golf 5, Socom.
And a few others for sure:
MGS4, GTA4, Madden 09
And its not for e3. Its July 2 2008.
cmon trophies where art thou?
:)