Is Metal Gear Solid 4 just a feature length Blu-Ray movie? Are the cutscenes too long for gamers?
And the cut-scenes weren't even that long. Plus, WHY THE HELL is KOTAKU always BASHING Metal Gear Solid? This cut-scene thing, was settled when everyone bought MGS4, everyone saw them, and facking loved them, YOU ARE PLAYING THE CUT-SCENES,ACT 3 and final fight with Liquid prove this, it's not just movies. I BOYCOT KOTAKU.
I whole heartedly agree. Kotaku and Brian Crescente are hacks. Their "journalism" is nothing more than MS bullsh**. I bet they suck on Marcus Fenix's **** between their posts. All they do is troll all day and bash every game that comes out. They're in the wrong industry if they don't like games like MGS4. MGS4's cutscenes are great. If they don't like them they can skip them instead of bi**hing about their length all the fu**ing time. To Kotaku and their fans I say this. "Most people enjoy MGS4's cutscenes, they're well crafted masterpieces that come once in a lifetime. Deal. If you don't like them then shut the f*** up and get the hell off of my internet. Some people actually like games with intelligence in them. Maybe Kojima should have put a chainsaw somewhere in the game to satisfy the diaper wearing, drooling idiots like Brian Crescente" I also boycott Kotaku. I have their site, Gamespot, Gamedaily, and Foxnews all blocked domains on my router. I suggest others do the same.
some of the cutscenes were kinda drawn out like the one where u first meet drebin. other than those the cutscenes were good
on my first playthrough i was looking forward to cutscenes more then game play, but one i was on my second, look forward to gameplay more
i`ll be Happy then. =)
Just let it go. It's Kotaku, the great bastion of anti-Sony sentiment. That worm Brian Ashcraft hates Sony with a passion rarely seen and he will do anything to smear their name.
It's freakin' annoying, that's what it is. They're starting to piss me off.
To be fair you get so wrapped up in the story you don't release how long the cut scenes are
I agree, thats what happened to me before i knew it, the cut-scenes were over
the plot should have been "Snake Wins" that would have satisfied some of these idiots. anyways- "I'd like to see them wrap up a 21 year old storyline WITHOUT cut-scenes" exactly right.
I thought the length of the cutscenes were fine, I just thought a few of the Briefings were too long and drawn out when you are on the ship.
People seem to forget that the briefings are just long enough to allow you to both pat attention AND explore with the metal gear so you can recover secrets during the briefing. Such as certain secrets that allow you to take in game screenshots.
I don't see what the big issue is. They asked a simple question as to whether anyone thinks the cutscenes are too long. I would say the majority of the people who played the game agree that they aren't long at all, but I believe they were just trying to get a gague on how people other than them see it. I personally could have handled longer cutscenes but as they are it's perfect.
FOR THE MOST PART... I have played the prior Metal Gear titles and never understood what the f'ck was going on. This was most likely because you had to read everything in the Codec scenes.... After playing MGS4, I totally understand the story. The cutscenes facilitated that. It is much easier AND more enjoyable to watch a beatuifully crafted and directed cutscene than to read dry text. PLUS, with the exception of a few of the "flashback" cutscenes, I thought that they were a good length. I also think that there was a perfect mix of gameplay and cutscenes. The longest cutscenes were in the epilogue anyway, AFTER the story ended! This is Kotaku looking to stir debate and fanboyism.
Let it be. PS and MGS fans should just let it be. Let the haters and losers hate. They can never change the fact the MGS4 is a masterpiece and one of a kind. MGS4 is a love letter to the hardcore MGS fans as Kojima said. He did not flinch, he didn't compromise at all with regards to quality and his vision for his game. That is why i respect Kojima alot more than most devs.He dosen't try to please everyone because by doing so will result in a mess. Its really sad some people still are not able to see the enormity of what Kojima had achieve. For the longest time in the gaming industry devs were trying their best to blur the line between movies and games. Now Kojima has done it some people hate him for it. We are now seeing the dawn of a new age in gaming with games like MGS4.It will take sometime for people to realize this but MGS4 really made adults think that gaming is a serious medium that can rival the movie industry in terms of delivering mature real movie like A grade caliber entertainment.Believe me when i say that alot of adults still see gaming as a kids thing despite its commercial success and i don't blame them. If we look at games before MGS4. Most of them if they were made directly into movies would be seen as B movies. Its the reason why alot of Games to Movies adaption sucked. This will be the last time i post in these MGS4 hate threads. Again to all PS and MGS fans. Be like Kojima. Don't try to explain or defend this game to those who obviously are haters. Just ignore these threads and not give any of these guys any attention. Let it be.
Oh yeah, fangirls and people with no job and no life. You guys defend the game like it's the second coming of Christ. 90 minutes is too long.
Have you even played the game? i played the game, i beat the game, and i never found that "90 minute cut scene"
There are two *roughly* 90 minute cut scenes in MGS4. This was confirmed by a handfull of reviewers post release.
I have no problem with the cutscenes in MGS 4. In fact, on my first playthrough I was looking forward to the cutscenes more than the actual gameplay. Weird isn't it?
At first they were long but then I just got used to them but I thought towards the end the cutscenes really started to get good. Even though they are long if you think about it, there're only a hand full of games that can pull of long cutscenes and Metal gear is one of them. I can't really think of many other games that can pull off 30 minute cutscenes. Edit: Yes some of the cutscenes are longer than they should be but I thought they were executed very well. For example in the briefing room where you can use the mkII to move around and you get to see different views I thought that was cool.
My friend, who so adorn 360, said MGS4 was CG!!! So i showed him the Briefing room sequences with the Mk. II... yep, he was speechless also showed him Snake's struggle to GW. He couldnt say anything afterwards.
haha thats funny
Lol @ Thanatos. That must have knocked him dead.
I was also looking forward to the cutscenes rather than playing the game itself :P.
it's MGS4 the story/cut scenes play a big role in the game. the game is not for those idiots that love to run around killing anything in site and get killed several times in the process.
Those games are for idiots you say? Funny, but I thought games like that (cod4, gears, resistance) were always pretty damn fun. Just because someone does not like stealth based games, does not mean they are idiots you pompus a**hole.
lol, dude, first of all yea they are not idiots, but in a way they are lol, because you know those games are fun, so you do run like an idiot trying to kill someone and die in the process you never actually think every single way before you move, in this game you have to think and what is the best way to go through the game, if you want to take them out, sneak behind them, on all the other fps games you just go shoot and move on, yes you might want to make sure whats the best way to take them out, but once you shoot one, your not going to be able to take out all of them the same way, because once you engage you just keep shooting lol so you don't use brainpower too much, you just aim and shoot :), which is always fun :D lol
ROFL at Kotaku, anti playstation article again. seriously if this game was on the 360 ( a game thats not even possible on that console [play act 3]) they would be going bonkers in a positive way
No doubt. If this game was 360-confirmed next week I bet all the bashing would stop. Damn fanboys and their soapboxes.
seriously the reason why they act like this is because they got ****ed on by sony when they leaked Home. F***ing F****ots
"I bet all the bashing would stop. " Actually there would be more bashing in the likes of "Hahahaha MGS4 is better on the 360!"
How old are the writers at Kotaku?I'd expect such articles from a confused Junior High student.
Well to be fair theres alot of good writers, however Brian Ashcraft is a waste of space and brings the whole blog down with his negitive post's all the time Heck i got banned from commenting on Kotaku as i called him out. On the sales one with him saying that 49=50 saying that sony were rounding up numbers, despite the fact that the graph clearly showed they sold over 50million units
Yes even the creater of it Hideo says it is for the fans metal gear solid games always have them it is of its parts and will be which makes this series where it is now truly one of its own kind if you dont like it dont play it,
YES they are defenetly the longest cutscenes ive ever seen in a video game. the one at the end of chapter 2 i seriously felt like skipping it cause it was honestly like 50 minutes. i dont know why all the fanboys here are ashamed of them being long and try saying there not for some reason. in fact it took me 20 hours to beat the game and i honestly do think that 10 of the hours were all cutscenes. if youve played the game theres an 'achevement' called big boss extreeme? where you beat the game within 5 hours withought getting cought.. soo.. its defenetly passable in a short time.
I was talking to my friend who beat the game, and I asked him how much time he thinks the cut scenes added to his time. He said "Probably almost 6 to 8 hours."
you have to skip them, not get caught and beat the bosses without killing them in time. thats pretty hard, but its possible
Didnt you read the news about some freak beating it in 3hrs?
I bet nobody can beat the game under 5 hours without saving. People that earned the Big Boss emblem did beat the game under 5 hours but after many many many attempts quitting to main menu and retrying at every check/save point. I did it but if I were to tally up my total gameplay earning the Big Boss emblem it would probably be 30+ hours on gameplay alone.
To beat the game in under 5 hours by loading and saving continuously like i have to try and get the foxhound rank. But if i had to guess i spent at least a good 15 hours playing the game trying to achieve the rank. I don't even want to talk about how many times i died at the end of act 3.
If you watch the Metal Gear Solid 4 extra DVD, it was stated that the cut scenes were 8 hours in length in total.
And brought the standard edition like a dumbass *sadface*. But if that's true i beat it the first time in 27 hours so i almost put in 20 hours of gameplay. Not bad.
I'm on the 2nd half of act3 at 2 hours 18 mins on the boss extreme difficulty (Yes I'm going for the BBE) It is ENTIRELY possible to beat the game in a ridiculously short amount of time... But it's not particularly enjoyable. Luckily this is the last speed run I need to do. My next run will be with pretty much all items unlocked (save for corpse camo) and I'm gonna take my time and have FUN. The game is awesome, the length of the cutscenes don't annoy me at all (as they can be skipped if you must) I have only 2 problems with the game, it not keeping your equipment/weapon set up (you have to select your stuff from the main menu each time you load and often after cutscenes) and the install between chapters (I have a 320gb drive, I'd like an option for the full install) Those are my only gripes and to be honest they aren't particularly anything.
NO They aren't MGS4 = Perfection
People need to be intelligent to play MGS4(i.e PlayStation;)owners)... That's why xBot Lemmings don't understand it!!! ;-D All they want is a BIG GUN and to run around a level shooting people saying...YEH! N00BS! DIE!!! I'M THE BEST!!! RED-NECKS RULES!!! I'M PERFECT!!! YOUR NOT!!! I'M THE MAN!!! YOU ARE G*Y! YOU N00B! YOU F*G!!! N00B THIS! N00B THAT...Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Bet they LOVE 'RAMBO' Films!!! ;-D Get it on Blu-ray...oh you can't!!! ;-D
They're not bad through the first playthrough, but by the second, I found myself skipping through many of them, especially the mission briefings.
press Start. then Skip. elementary, really.
lol, yeah me too. i'm on my 4th play and still watch them all. i'll only skip them when i go for the BB emblem
.......did you just reply to your own message? WTF????!!?
lol, i was replying to the above but it put me at 2nd post. lol weird
You don't own it n00b! And it's neeeeeever gonna come to the 360!
Says the guy who haves a 360.
did someone say cutscenes??? Damb!!! I thought I was watching a movie. oh well let me put my popcorn down.
Very true. Calling them "cut-scenes" would imply that they are CUTTING into something--like gameplay. LOL, but we all know that's not the case. Sorry, JEWKIN. U say something? I don't reply to such immature commenters. ;O But just to humor you... I may get a PS3 soon (if it stops sucking JUST a little bit more, but it is indeed not likely that it will do such a thing...) So, MGS4 coming to 360 is something about which I care not. Be gone, thee.
lol! Great comment Noobz, u made me laugh. You're the man! EDIT : without the game! 2nd EDIT : I got a disagree, so I'm gonna try again - how about "without the brains!"
Wow n00bie, you're still being a n00b! "Sorry, JEWKIN. U say something? I don't reply to such immature commenters. ;O But just to humor you... I may get a PS3 soon (if it stops sucking JUST a little bit more, but it is indeed not likely that it will do such a thing...)" 1. It's juuken. But you're a n00b so whateverz. 2. :o Really? You're getting a PS3? Sorry, not convinced! If it stops sucking? Bah! It has some kick ass games, and more are coming so you're gonna miss that train buddy! How ignorant 360 fanatics are! Did you ever hear of the saying "The 360 is now, the PS3 is the future?" Meh, hopeless case. Think I'm gonna shine my precious PS3 again and play some MGS4. Lol, silly MS asskissers.
juuken: "Did you ever hear of the saying "The 360 is now, the PS3 is the future?" Ha ha! ALL the time!
A I was playing mgs4 and I didn't see a cut-scene that was 90 mins long either that or I loved it so much i didn't even notice they were long because the cutscenes build up the story either way cant you skip them?
Jewkin, everyone on N4G knows by now that I am buying a PS3 to play the future masterpiece that is God of War 3..... GOD OF WAR TOTALLY PWNZ!!!!!!!!!! u would know all of this if you weren't such a.....N00B LOLOOL PWNAGE!
MOVIE GEEAR SOLID the game is very short with out the cutscene and very avrage without them , you know what makes me laugh tho everything ps3 fanboys are posting mgs4 screens they seem to alwys post the cgi cutscene and try t pass it as gameplay quite funny .
They're long, but awesome. Hell its my third time playing through and I still watch some of them.
You know how stupid you are ? O wait your too stupid to realize forget this whole comment.
Hey, you're an idiot. Everyone, when I get my 360 and I turn into a psychotic 360 fangirl, please insult me as much as you can. I don't want to bare the shame of being a retard like this inbreed here. Actiooooon, don't start. I told you why I'm getting a 360. I seriously want Ninja Gaiden 2. And it's a graduation gift from my uncle. I did say that if anything happened to this thing, I'd throw it out the window!
You put the R in Retard congrats!
Won't buying a 360 make you retarded? Zing! I'm here all week! Try the fish!
Is sadly the byproduct of a two drug addicts in which the mother smoked the rock when poo was in the womb, and whose teachers had no choice, but to gave up on him after seeing how hopeless he was. This is the only solid explanation for such utter stupidity. Lets just give him credit for being able to turn the computer on even if he did get help in doing so, and attempting to try to formulate a few sentences no matter how nonsensical they always turn out.
This question should only be for Kojima, it's his story and it's his prerogative to make it how he sees fit; it's not like every game is like this, it's just an end to a story and it needed to be this way to bring things to a close. This wasn't a game about introducing new game play (for the most part) or tons of new characters and story, it was about the end for Snake. If every game had cut scenes this long, I would be pissed; but this isn't every game, it's MGS4.
yo that comment was so real dog, so very true. bubbles for that man peace and god bless.
Look, there is more than enough gameplay in the game to keep you entertained. And as for the cut scenes, Many Metal Gear veteran will tell you those cut scenes are VERY important. The only cut scenes that were longer than they should have been was when you first met Drebin and the briefing. Other than that, the cut scenes were fine. And on a side note, the scenes are GREAT. So I really don't understand why Kotaku is griping. Kotaku acts as if the cut scenes take away from the gameplay. I wonder if this game all of a sudden went to the 360 would they talk all this BS P.S.- MGS2 had longer cut scenes and I never saw Kotaku whine about that.