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Anita Sarkeesian gets exposed as a fraud by Stephen Colbert

Anita Sarkeesian went on The Colbert Report on Wednesday to talk about GamerGate, her perceived sexism in the video game industry, and the allegedly nonstop misogynistic harassment she’s received from gamers. She ended up getting a little more than she bargained for, however, and her appearance on the show made her look extremely bad

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-Foxtrot1356d ago

Makes me laugh

She's apparently terrified of leaving her home that she called the police over trolls....yet here she is making her mouth go on television exposing herself even more and opening herself up for more attacks

Zoe is the same with her interviews

They bring this stuff on themselves

Fireseed1356d ago

"They bring this stuff on themselves"
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I'm really hoping you're not referring to the death and rape threats.

NewMonday1356d ago

he is referring to to Anita and Zoe being exposed as opportunistic frauds.

who knew about them before GG?

the corrupt GameJournoPros, Gawker, Vox media are happy to keep the spotlight on Anita, Zoe and Wu.

DeadRabbits1356d ago

She came across very arrogantly demanding that not some but all games become Feminist Friendly. I don't like overtly sexual games but I don't feel the need to stop others enjoying them!

nX1356d ago

We just have to stop giving them the attention they're craving for. Gaming is fine, nobody is hating women, it's the gaming "journalism" that needs to change. I wonder what DoritoPope says about GamerGate...

Guitardr851356d ago

@foxtrot...

Good God man...did you really just say that victims of death and rape threats shouldnt be strong enough to publicly condemn those actions?

I think you just made a major FUBAR for the entire internet to see...Congratulations, you now look like a male elitist gamer jerk...you need to grow up!

UnHoly_One1356d ago

He might be referring to the threats because I'm pretty sure she made those herself for publicity purposes.

She's a fraud.

Have you seen this screen cap of the threats supposedly made against her?

http://i.imgur.com/p6eaary....

Anon19741356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

DeadRabbits said "She came across very arrogantly demanding that not some but all games become Feminist Friendly"

I must have gone to the bathroom or something when that part came on. At what point did she say anything even remotely close to that? Was it after she said she isn't interested in making everyone play non-violent games?

Edit: Went back and rewatched it. I must have blinked and missed that part again.

Second Edit: Just read UnHoly_One's comments above, and I mentioned this below but it bears mentioning again. In an industry where developers receive death threats for writing endings to games that people didn't like, or balancing weapons in multiplayer, do you really believe that they wouldn't be just as quick to send threats of rape, violence and death to someone like Anita? You really believe she needs to fake threats? Spend 5 minutes on 8chan looking at posts related to her...

Dee_911356d ago

woah guys calm down, only say good things about her.. you don't want to be a harasser attacker!

@Bloodborn they did.. then anita goes on colbert and the other one goes on BBC, both with the same accusation that gamergate must end because misogynerds calls us names and threatened us constantly..
They literally, by definition, and reality just brought more attention to themselves.That attention will include both bad and good of course... for some reason I believe bad is also good for them also..

viperman2401356d ago

Look at how much Anita cares about people actually finding the ones sending her threats.

https://twitter.com/TheBack...

It just reinforces what many of us already know, she thrives with threats and uses it to get ahead.

user55757081356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

how many people actually hate female gamers? i honestly don't think there are that many.

however, trolls are plentiful and she doesn't realize how much she's feeding the troll here

breakpad1356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

the whole Anita sharkeesian-gamegate thing is just another plot from gaming industry to popularize (doesnt matter if it ll be negative or positive hype) video games in females(which dont be hypocrites are far less than male gamers) and increase their female gamer audience therefore their sales and earnings

ziggurcat1356d ago

@darkride666:

"At what point did she say anything even remotely close to that?"

oh, i don't know.. maybe it was when she accused an entire community of "terrorizing women"? or maybe it was the when she painted all games as sexist/misogynist while completely ignoring all of the games (the majority of games, in fact) that a) don't involve saving any woman at all or b) have strong female protagonists?

"In an industry where developers receive death threats for writing endings to games that people didn't like, or balancing weapons in multiplayer, do you really believe that they wouldn't be just as quick to send threats of rape, violence and death to someone like Anita?"

those people are idiots, and aren't a part of gamergate.

it's really quite astonishing that you continue to defend her despite having been proven several times over to be an opportunist fraud.

she. couldn't. even. name. three. games. when. colbert. asked. her. instead, she threw out GTA, which is always the go to game people name whenever there's any sort of debate about sex/violence in video games.

j0ncap1251356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

top lel

DragonKnight1355d ago

This article is completely irrelevant as she has only been made to look bad to people who already saw through her B.S. to begin with.

Have any of you seen her twitter feed after the show was aired? It's filled with people that actually think Colbert is now a feminist. What do they base that on? A question.

"As a man, am I allowed to be a feminist?"

That's what he said. And the SJWs are taking that as a declarative statement, combined with the handshake, that Anita granted Colbert permission to be a feminist and he accepted. This is the kind of delusion we're facing.

Any normal person would have A)Seen the question as Colbert asking what it would take for men to be a feminist and if they'd be accepted as feminists, NOT asking to become one himself, and B)Would have seen him shake her hand while saying "Thank you" after his mic was muted as he does EVERY guest he has on the show.

Anita looks bad with every second that she breathes. It does nothing to her because the number of people that see through her B.S. are monumentally dwarfed by the blind, cultist SJW nation of people who claimed to have been crying tears of joy at the thought of the man whose show they tried to cancel for one feminist being accepted into the feminist ranks by another feminist.

Hell, Suey Park b*tched about this very thing herself, showing that the feminists don't even know what they want.

Anita is the feminist P.T. Barnum

SonyWarrior1355d ago

i dont play games with the main characters a woman

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uth111356d ago

Anita's threats may have been faked by her. It is suspicious that she screencapped them so fast from a brand new twitter user without even being logged in herself.

The evidence:
http://www.returnofkings.co...

Anon19741356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

In an industry where developers receive death threats for writing endings to games that people didn't like, or balancing weapons in multiplayer, do you really believe that they wouldn't be just as quick to send threats of rape, violence and death to someone like Anita? If you don't think the gaming community is capable of sending death threats or harassing people, spend two hours on Xbox Live playing Call of Duty.

Use your head.

Dee_911356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

Yea, like what @darkride66, ignore that valid evidence that it may have been faked and focus on the popular triple A devs that received death threats.
He clearly said "threats MAY have been faked".No one is saying trolls don't harass and send death threats.
Use your head, not your emotions.

hazelamy1356d ago

don't quote that pathetic site, full of manchildren that claim women who say they've been raped are lying and that women are untrustworthy and/or sluts.

this is the kind of hatred so many here keep claiming feminists show.

uth111356d ago

@darkride66

women (and men) on both sides of this debate have received death threats. What makes Anita special? How does she get to claim that they prove that GG is about hate when (if real) there's nothing tying them to GG, and GG people get threats as well.

When professionals advise you to not publicize such threats as they encourage these people, why did she publish them?

Sending threats is despicable. But there are also unbalanced people and trolls in every group on the planet. To say that threats (real or fake) somehow discredits GG is dishonest.

Spotie1356d ago

Dark, you, yourself, have admitted that devs get death threats for less "offensive" reasons. Those devs are almost entirely male.

Shouldn't that make those offenders misandrists?

Nope. Just immature trolls.

Which is kinda the point here. They're not targeting these people because they're women, but because they've drawn the ire of the trolls.

Thing is: Anita and crew are doing the same thing with their threats that they're doing to gaming overall: taking a very small number of incidents and asserting- even in the face of evidence to the contrary- that it represents the whole. That's just stupid.

darkride, you're one of the most intelligent commenters on this site, which is why I'm a little disappointed that you seem to have fallen for their scam. I'm no feminist, but I AM someone who believes women are frequently mistreated in a variety of arenas. But here, in gaming, the uproar is fabricated.

And there's nothing worse than a cause built on lies...except maybe destroying a legitimate cause with lies. Anita, Zoe, and others like them are guilty of both these things.

Amy, don't be so melodramatic. No one is saying these things DON'T happen EVER. Rather, we're saying don't take the actions of a few idiots to be anything more than that.

You see people decrying Anita and think it's because we hate women. Why, though, do you ignore the flaws in her argument that prompts the antagonistic responses she elicits?

Anon19741356d ago

By the way, that "faked" twitter feed...all you have to do is know the user's twitter handle (which obviously she had) and google it with "twitter" and you can view someone's feed. Claiming it's a faked screencap because she wasn't logged in and there was nothing in the search is easily explainable.

One has to only peruse twitter or 8chan to see there's plenty of hate out there that's attributed to gamergate. You don't even have to search that hard. Sure, they don't speak for everyone that has been using the GG hashtag, but no one is claiming they do.

@Spotie. Of course trolling can happen to everyone, but there's a disproportionate amount that's directed towards women. As has been pointed out before, when Zoe Quinn's ex leaked intimate details about her sex life, rather than attack him for being a low life or the journalist in question that Quinn allegedly slept with the gain favor with, who was the clear target? And when it was revealed to be false, that the journalist in question never reviewed ZQ's game and anything he wrote about her pre-dated his romantic relationship with her, did the harassment she received let up? Not really, and then GG turned the mob towards other targets rather than admit they were up in arms about nothing. It's just a roving mob screaming "witch" whenever they find a new target.

Anitia has never attributed the threats and harassment she's received to the whole GG movement. That's ridiculous. As for why people aren't addressing the flaws in her logic when it comes to her position on wanting games to be more inclusive when it comes to female player, why doesn't someone point out those flaws and debate them? I've read comment after comment that paints her as some man hating, game hating, feminazi who's coming for all our games and demands conformity to her ideology, yet not one of them can answer how they came to that conclusion because it's certainly not based on her words.

ziggurcat1356d ago

@darkride666:

"Anitia has never attributed the threats and harassment she's received to the whole GG movement. That's ridiculous."

uh... she said it in her colbert interview. she specifically said (starting at 4:10 in the linked video below) that gamergate was all about "terrorizing women."

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

MarkusMcNugen1356d ago

@darkride66

No one thinks the death threats are fine, they represent the epitome of human behavior. However, the problem with Anita and Zoe is that they are being hypocrites, like almost all feminists are.

They demonize entire groups such as men, or gamers, to support their points. Which is in itself a sexist view.

Do I trust a sexist person when they tell me about what they think is sexist? I think not...

insomnium21355d ago

@darkride

" As for why people aren't addressing the flaws in her logic when it comes to her position on wanting games to be more inclusive when it comes to female player, why doesn't someone point out those flaws and debate them?"

I think her logic has been crushed by thunderfoot and others on youtube enough.

You of all people darkride are anti-GG? Man that's dissapointing.

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TM3331356d ago

Currently listening to Foxtrot by Genesis! Great album (off topic I know, but...)

On topic... seems like she and Zoe are enjoying the limelight. Noone deserves death threats though.

R-A-S-01356d ago

Great album mate. My favourite is Selling England by the Pound

IcarusOne1356d ago

Good lord. The mental gymnastics this author goes through to prove his point are staggering. I watched the interview and she handled herself well. And it seemed pretty clear that Colbert was on her side/showing GG in all it's sexist and misogynistic glory.

jdiggitty1356d ago

Yeah, that's a pretty ridiculous conclusion to come up with from the interview

CaptainObvious8781356d ago

I would appreciate it if you would stop your harassment of GG. Labeling the entire group a bunch of sexist misogynists because of a few trolls is beyond stupid and the fact you got a well said for that makes me weep for humanity.

Stop your harassment.

IcarusOne1355d ago

Instead of attacking me, I would appreciate it if you started attacking the trolls within GG that are doing an amazing job of discrediting it, many of whom are active in these comments.

I would love to get behind GG and the journalistic ethos it claims to preach. But right now the bad apples have the loudest voices.

DragonKnight1355d ago

"showing GG in all it's sexist and misogynistic glory."

Spoken as someone who hasn't spent a single second in the GG tag.

CaptainObvious8781355d ago (Edited 1355d ago )

Instead of attacking GG and playing the victim when I call you out of your bigoted, bullying behavior, I would appreciate if you would call out the people that condemn an entire movement for the actions of a few.

It's deplorable behavior and if you even have the slightest bit of decency and common sense, you would stop it.

Again, I kindly ask you to stop your harassment. I already call out the trolls when I see them. Maybe you could, at the very least, stop calling other people harassers when you, yourself, are harassing in the very same sentence.

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2cents1356d ago

She was exposed as a fraud the moment she opened her mouth. But the people who called that out were never given a voice.

Colbert says: "We are talking about ethics in game journalism, do you know how huge that is"

She replied with "I think that is a compelling way to reframe the fact that this is actually attacks on women. Ethics in journalism is not what's happening in any way."

WOW. Just WOW. She will not, can not accept that anyone else can have a problem. Anita, why are you doing this? Why? How can you be so blind to why thousands of people are angry about ethics yet you ignore their voices and expect everyone to drop their crusade and focus on yours.

You are really doing yourself NO favours.

IcarusOne1355d ago

I guess you missed the part where even Colbert almost cracked into laughter at the notion of "game journalism."

2cents1355d ago

He laced each question with humour, did not detract from the fact that the question was valid and the answer was important.

He managed to get an answer to the question we have all been asking. Take that interview as you will.

Laughing at something does not automatically classify the subject as a joke. I'm not laughing.

mmcglasson1356d ago Show
3-4-51356d ago

The longer this goes, the more the facts build up they most of her arguments are empty and her just making noise.

Yes, people have been trolling online and those people ruin things for everyone.

They are the same people calling white,black,asians,muslims names just because of who they are or where they were born.

They also say horrible things to Male game developers as well and pretty much everyone else on the internet.

Those trolls represent those trolls and nothing more.

Christopher1356d ago

Actually, a company did an analysis of tweets and found that female developers/figures get a lot more hatred than males.

3-4-51356d ago

You might be right. They do probably get targeted by certain people. Can't argue that, but I was just saying since there are more men, you would think it would be more men.

Either way trolling is not cool.

Lying via the media is even less cool.

DragonKnight1355d ago

@cgoodno: Actually, that analysis was so flawed it may as well have been done by a blind chimp. It took 25% of arbitrarily selected tweets within the GamerGate tag. And even the tweets it took were 90% neutral and not harassing in any way.

It's better covered in this analysis of newsweek's analysis.

https://medium.com/@cainejw...

SonyMontana1356d ago

They should rename this GAYmer Gate. It's lame already. At this point it's nothing more than a pedestal for her to get publicity and that's what I really can't stand. I feel like she's just milking this thing to death for personal gain. Who really cares enough to take this seriously anyway? It's dumb.

Christopher1356d ago

I know, right? She brings all the hate on herself by having an opinion and saying anything at all. Down with these two women who have opinions and have only gotten the notice they have from people disagreeing with their opinions and showing it by posting threatening messages about/towards them.

-Foxtrot1356d ago

The point is people on the GamerGate side don't get in a hissy fit when they are given abuse online.

Why is it they have to play the victim and exploit it. Actually the question should be why is it they are the only ones who can use the victim card and get a free pass by the media.

It's like prodding a Cave Bear over and over while it's Hibernating then getting ticked off when it wakes up and attacks you.

If Anita and Zoe were that bothered about these threats they wouldn't keep making their mouths go which is going to get more abuse thrown at them. People who have opinions any other time always expect trolls who are doing to say something horrible of cruel no matter what they say.

It's the internet...it happens.

Christopher1356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

***The point is people on the GamerGate side don't get in a hissy fit when they are given abuse online. ***

Yeah, I know. All those threats of rape and death threats sent right to the home of the individuals. Let alone all the times there are threats made to the public based on where the person is going to be.

I feel sorry for all those GamerGate people who have to deal with these threats.

/s

They're not playing victim, they are victims. Until you stop trying to make an excuse for what they've gone through, you're not going to see it. So, go back to your argument that "everyone gets harassed at some point, so it's a-ok for someone else to be harassed a ton based solely on their opinion and gender!"

As I've said above, it's been proven that females who speak out like this receive a ton more threats, and personal ones at that, than males who do the same thing. But, hey, keep riding that bike to ignorance land and keep propping up that the only thing at issue here is ethics in journalism and not how internet trolls who happen to also play video games have turned the environment into one laden with toxins and land mines.

***If Anita and Zoe were that bothered about these threats they wouldn't keep making their mouths go which is going to get more abuse thrown at them. ***

Yeah. Someone should have told that to all the other people in history who shared opposing opinions. You should take that advice back to the rise of the suffrage movement in the beginning of the 20th century.

***It's the internet...it happens.***

Such a shitty excuse. It's the Internet... it happens. Now may I go officer? What? You mean threatening someone's life is against the law? But it's the Internet!?!

-Foxtrot1356d ago

I would argue but what's the point...your one of them

I've done this before and had better chance with talking to a brick wall

Christopher1356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

***I would argue but what's the point...your one of them ***

Yes, "I'm one of them." One of those people who recognize the faults of both sides and call them on it. I also recognize the merits of both sides and support them on it.

Sorry, I'm not some bandwagon guy who just gives a free pass because someone had one opinion that differed from mine or because I am so offended by the fact that someone who I disagree with is getting more attention rather than what I want.

Yes, I'm the brick wall equivalent here. Totally.

gangsta_red1356d ago

@Fox

"..on the GamerGate side don't get in a hissy fit when they are given abuse online."

So that validates death and rape threats? You are seriously defending this sort of behavior towards people online.

"Actually the question should be..."

The real question should be why is this behavior online acceptable? Why should death threats and rape against a person not be taken seriously, only because it was posted on the internet. And if god forbid one of these women do fall victim to rape or die, then what? Then what will your defense be?

"If Anita and Zoe were that bothered about these threats they wouldn't keep making their mouths go which is going to get more abuse thrown at them."

Wow, the utter ignorance of that statement. So whenever you have an opinion or want to stand up for yourself or even bring to light something that you feel is wrong you should just shut up about it because of threats against you.

I wonder if any thing in the entire history of the human race would have been accomplished if people just would have shut their mouths and not voiced their opinion or concern against issues or situations they felt were wrong.

Cgoodno basically beat me to all this, but I just had to share my thoughts on your comment. And once again when you are proven wrong and sent to your corner, you start in on the name calling.

-Foxtrot1356d ago

@gangsta_red

Here we go Gangsta_Red joins in the fun just so he can reply to one of my comments and say some shit.

You've hardly ever commented on these articles, why now...oh yeah because you get a chance to argue against me trying to prove your in the right when your not because you most likely don't even have a clue about GamerGate at all.

"So that validates death and rape threats? You are seriously defending this sort of behavior towards people online"

I didn't say I was, that's your assumption. I just meant Anita and Zoe use abuse thrown at them, something which happens to everyone but instead of shrugging it off they are exploiting it to try and play the victim card more to make their side look good. The pity vote more or less

"The real question should be why is this behavior online acceptable? Why should death threats and rape against a person not be taken seriously, only because it was posted on the internet. And if god forbid one of these women do fall victim to rape or die, then what? Then what will your defense be? "

Maybe because your looking into that one person. It's not fair on others is it who have been abused and threatened, what makes Zoe and Anita so bloody special? The fact is Police are trying their best to sort these things out but at the end of the day it's expected with how immature and massive the internet actually is. You are bound to get idiots on here, it can't be stopped. No one says it's acceptable, we are just sick of Anita and Zoe trying to use this as a way to make GamerGate look like something it isn't.

"Wow, the utter ignorance of that statement. So whenever you have an opinion or want to stand up for yourself or even bring to light something that you feel is wrong you should just shut up about it because of threats against you."

How is it ignorance, it's true.

Anita and Zoe apparently were told by police if the threats are serious they are better off not engaging much on the internet and have a cool down period, especially if their families were under threat. Instead they decide to big themselves up and again exploit the victim card into fuelling their cause. Would you really not listen to the police and say more stuff which apparently could put your family in danger. YEAH...I don't think so. When you have people like David Jaffe, Cliffy B, Peter Molyneux etc the reason they don't get name called all the time because they don't engage and make things worse. It's not about sharing your opinion, you can but if your really that concerned for your safety and your families safety it's something you wouldn't want to make worse.

"Cgoodno basically beat me to all this, but I just had to share my thoughts on your comment"

Yeah...I'm sure he did

"And once again when you are proven wrong and sent to your corner, you start in on the name calling"

Pfffffft....pot calling kettle black

There is a reason you only have one bubble. You are nasty, immature, you go off topic, I mean WOW.....what a bloody hypocrite.

Next time do some research before jumping into the deep end.

-Foxtrot1356d ago

@cgoodno

LOL

"One of those people who recognize the faults of both sides and call them on it"

Both sides? Are you serious? I've seen you in most GamerGate articles trying to play them down and stick up for the Anti GG side.

Your pretty one sided here, if you are fine but don't lie about it.

I'm not surprised if you were one of the mods who tried to take pro GG articles down.

We all saw it...if it wasn't for Cat they'd still be down and why? Because you or others didn't agree with them. I'm guessing if people came to you and asked about it you wouldn't of done anything.

papashango1356d ago

I don't think these girls are going to change anything. the white knights like cg will voice their opinions but what she is "demanding". There is no market for.

Strong female leads don't make a good game. a good story with good gameplay makes a good game. Doesn't matter if it's a male or female playing the lead.

Imalwaysright1356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

@ cgoodno

"They're not playing victim, they are victims"

They're both, It's true that they are victims (i find that inexcusable) but when Anita says that GamerGate is all about terrorizing women and that it has nothing to do with ethics and journalism, she is playing the "women are victims" card.

Also, I got to say that it bothers me seeing comments that only have 3 agrees marked as "well said". I thought that these things were "controlled" by the community and that "The policy set by the N4G owners is to leave N4G as much in the hands of the community as possible". Apparently not.

rainslacker1356d ago

Why is she commenting on GG at all? GG isn't her cause, and the purpose of GG isn't to bring more equality to games or the industry. She really has no stake in GG other than the fact that she interjects herself into it regularly to get attention, and to change what it's all about so she can try and make herself seem right about her points of view.

Pro-tip to Anita(and others): stop antagonizing the people in the movement with things that have nothing to do with the movement, ignore the trolls, and it's highly likely you won't be hated on by the movement.

Christopher1356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

***Your pretty one sided here, if you are fine but don't lie about it. ***

Really? You sure you know to whom you are replying or just applying a label?

First, I'm not in most GG articles. Not as much as you are trashing "SJW"s or defending your opinion to high heaven.

Second, defending the fact that people who get threats against their person is not defending their opinions. It's defending their basic right to live a life free from such things.

But, let's see if you're right by looking at some of my past comments.

http://n4g.com/news/1611075...

Wait... did I just say she has faults? I need to work on my SJW methodology more. I should only say good things about her!

http://n4g.com/news/1611075...

Wait... I admit that it's trolls who are the most damaging and not those who started the movement in earnest?

http://n4g.com/news/1611075...

Mention nothing about her whether her opinion is right or wrong, only that she doesn't actually provide data to back up any opinion she gives, only anecdotal remarks.

Apparently that means I'm anti-feminist who is anti-feminist that is anti-GamerGate. *goes cross-eyed*

http://n4g.com/news/1605473...

Comment on the association that has developed from obvious groups with GamerGate, how it is detrimental, even say it may be an unfair association, but still one.

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You got me, -Foxtrot, I'm obviously just one Internet SJW, not some person who likes to look at how things are and comment on them. I'm obviously just here to say that everything Anita does is right and everything GamerGate is wrong.

You got me.

P.S. /s

***We all saw it...if it wasn't for Cat they'd still be down and why? ***

lol. Wow. You have no clue. Cat has, purposefully, stayed away from this subject. Having an opinion on it is toxic to those like her. The people making the decisions are the mods who make the decisions on 99.9999999% of the other submissions. Myself included.

That first piece, the _only one_ that was failed, was failed because all it did was drag someone through the mud by her ex. It didn't approach anything about ethics in journalism. And, furthermore, it was proven that the person she slept with didn't review her game or anything of the like. So, kind of glad we didn't turn N4G into "drag this person's personal life through the mud for no reason other than a stilted ex boyfriend."

Every single other GG article that falls within our rules of being about games, not being a duplicate, and so forth has been allowed on N4G without issue. Every. Single. Other. Piece.

-Foxtrot1355d ago (Edited 1355d ago )

@cgoodno

You can pick and choose your comments. Cherry picking can be done by anyone.

Besides I think the disagrees and replies you got in those comments show you how one sided you come off. I know you might not think it but it's right there under your nose.

"lol. Wow. You have no clue. Cat has, purposefully, stayed away from this subject. Having an opinion on it is toxic to those like her. The people making the decisions are the mods who make the decisions on 99.9999999% of the other submissions. Myself included."

LOL

Yet she put the articles back up, if she wanted to stay out of it she wouldn't of done it...although I suppose if she didn't then people would see how much you guys let your personal feelings get in the way of modding.

ONE of the guys who took some of those articles, mine included said

"This is NOT gaming related news"

Despite actually being gamer news, I mean that kind of excuse just shows you how much he wanted rid of the article. Yet there's other stuff posted on here which could be argued isn't real gaming news yet that still gets approved. Most of those satire articles for example which try to look real.

"That first piece, the _only one_ that was failed, was failed because all it did was drag someone through the mud by her ex."

Yeah and it stated how she slept with five guys within the gaming industry to further herself and her game. Plus it also linked into the corruption of the Independent Games Festival.

"It didn't approach anything about ethics in journalism. And, furthermore, it was proven that the person she slept with didn't review her game or anything of the like."

Wrong. He might of reviewed the game but the guy wrote 3 articles praising the shit out of the game. Two for Kotaku I think and one for another site. That is what the article was saying. See what I mean you haven't done your research on this.

"Every single other GG article that falls within our rules of being about games, not being a duplicate, and so forth has been allowed on N4G without issue. Every. Single. Other. Piece"

...YEAH...only because after Cat re-approved mine and some others user GG articles

You guys, whoever they were, did something wrong, she got involved and corrected the mistake.

Why is it that hard to say "Yeah we screwed up, we shouldn't or HE shouldn't of done that"

That's why people in those comments are disagreeing with you and think you are one sided, even me here right now, because despite being you or not who failed those articles it still reflected on you as a mod and got you guys grouped together. It's not nice is it, now you know how people in GG feel when an actual troll does something stupid and the entire GG group gets blamed.

Christopher1355d ago (Edited 1355d ago )

***Why is it that hard to say "Yeah we screwed up, we shouldn't or HE shouldn't of done that"***

Because I have no clue about the instance you are talking about. The only one I know that's been failed was the original one. Which, btw, did not include anything about ethics in gaming. IT was merely a guy's post of the reveal on facebook about the affair. That's the one I'm talking about. These other ones? I'm not aware of them.

***That's why people in those comments are disagreeing with you and think you are one sided, ***

Yeah, sure. I'm totally sure. It has nothing to do with people just blindly supporting their opinion. It must be that I'm one-sided.

One sec, let me check my comments that are pro-Sony or pro-MS... oh, wait, I get disagrees on all of those as well.

Shoot. what is it now? Am I only one-sided about specific stuff.

Also, those comments aren't "cherry-picked". They are the most recent comments I've made on the subject. I'd have to go back almost a month to find any other ones.

So, yeah. No to that as well.

*** because despite being you or not who failed those articles it still reflected on you as a mod and got you guys grouped together. ***

I know, right, two wrongs make a right. That's why I don't lump anyone together. But, you have no problem doing that here by lumping me with SJW. If you don't like it, perhaps you shouldn't practice it?

In conclusion; because, honestly, you're not debating anything here, just continuing your rant; you can take my comments however you like. But, in the end, you're ranting like a mad man who calls anyone who disagrees with you a SJW rather than taking each person's opinion as their own rather than some hive mind mentality that it must be to support one of two choices: SJW or GamerGate.

I bet it feels good to live in such a simple world?

DragonKnight1355d ago (Edited 1355d ago )

@cgoodno: Zoe didn't have any opinions. She slept around, went after a charity event, and is in deep with indie scene corruption. Those aren't "opinions" those are actions. And for someone who keeps saying she wants out, she keeps dragging herself in when everyone has forgotten about her. Same with Anita.

Anita capitalized on the recent school shooting to blame it on men and masculinity as a whole. The woman is vile. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. The bodies weren't even cold and she was pushing her friend's book. That's inexcusable.

And you want to talk death threats? How about you ask Milo Yiannopolous about the syringe he was sent in the mail? Or how about KingOfPol who was sent a knife and told to kill himself. What did Anita get again? Oh right, a message describing her parent's house, NOT HERS. Yeah, because that's on the same level as actually being sent physical objects the sender wants you to know is to be used to kill yourself.

And for people who are so afraid for their lives, they seem to be pretty quick to accept offers to appear publicly. You know, so long as those offers involve mainstream media that can boost their careers. Yeah, Brianna is so scared that she had no problem going on MSNBC and CNN. Anita was so afraid for her life that she cancelled her appearance on CBS and The Colbert Report... oh wait.

The B.S. is so strong it's smelled at the other end of the universe.

Christopher1355d ago (Edited 1355d ago )

@DragonKnight: And what does any of that have to do with the validity of threats against people being right or wrong or enables someone to make the remark "They bring this stuff on themselves"

That's akin to saying "That girl was asking to be raped because of what she wore."

Last I checked, it's wrong, end of story.

I agree, it is a bit hypocritical of her to be on TV right after cancelling one appearance live. I agree, Zoe Quinn may have done some things wrong, though I don't think sleeping around is at all a part of that (It's her own life, she can sleep with who she wants, same as any guy).

But, hey, that doesn't stop people from leaping to the logic -Foxtrot did.

Let me reiterate: "They bring this stuff on themselves"

At no time is that an excuse nor does them being hypocrites mean they they are not victims of actual threats against their lives.

Here's the difference between me and others like -Foxtrot: I can disagree with them without also accepting that acts of hatred, online or offline, are okay because I disagree with them or think they are doing things that will continue to draw attention. IN the end, said acts of hatred are wrong. Supporting those in any way, even with a statement like -Foxtrot made, is also wrong and gives the impression that it's okay to do it because you think they are asking for it.

DragonKnight1355d ago

@cgoodno: My position is that I don't care if they've received death threats or not. I don't know them, I don't like them as people, I didn't send them death threats myself so I'm not going to feel bad or apologize for something I didn't do, nor should anyone else. Are making death threats something that's perfectly acceptable to do? Of course not. There isn't a single person in this thread that actually condones such behaviour, not even -Foxtrot.

BUT

While I don't think they necessarily bring it on themselves, because no one can be personally responsible for what someone else decides to do, the one thing I can agree with with the logic that -Foxtrot represents is that these women do continue to poke the bear. To expect NO reaction is naive. Again, not condoning death threats or saying they bring it on themselves, but when you have someone like Anita saying that school shooting is the fault of all men and of being men, she's thrown down a gauntlet. She's made a huge, and very sexist statement all to further her own agenda.

And then there's Zoe Quinn, who consistently says she wants out of this whole mess (and for the record, I agree that sleeping around in and of itself is no big deal, but doing it for potential favours is. Even disregarding Nathan Grayson, she did sleep with her boss which is probably worse) but keeps writing articles about how GamerGate is sexist, misogynistic, and a harassment movement that everyone should condemn and that it needs to die. When people stopped talking about her, didn't care what she had to say, she made it a point to reinsert herself into the discussion. She continued to poke the bear.

And Brianna Wu has taken it upon herself to declare herself to be a type of martyr. She does the same thing Quinn does, but in a far more public venue.

So to expect NO response for these 3 people constantly goading everyone, insulting thousands of people, or even blaming an entire race and gender for their plight (which is sexist and racist and they never get called on it) is quite frankly naive. One doesn't have to condone death threats to understand the logic -Foxtrot is talking about. He may have taken it to an extreme, but the gist is "you perform an action, expect a reaction."

insomnium21355d ago

@cgoodno

You keep bringing up the point that they got threats. So what? Who doesn't get death threats on the internet?

Christopher1355d ago

***You keep bringing up the point that they got threats. So what? Who doesn't get death threats on the internet?***

99.999999% of the people on the Internet do not get the type of threats they have received. Heck, I've never been threatened at all like the stuff people keep insinuating we all get. And, last I checked, I have an opinion that is greatly different than others a lot of the times.

But, hey, if you're okay with thinking that anything you've experienced from others on the Internet is close to what they've experienced... you go on and keep thinking that. Whatever makes you happy.

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Silver3601356d ago

Are all these people sending death threats to these women super hackers that they can't be traced? No saying death treats aren't real, just amazed that no one has been caught yet. And my response to these ladies is make your games if people want them they will sell, just stay the F out of my games. It isn't about your freedom, it is about my freedom because you want to try and change the games I play because you want to change the way I view women. WTF who is the greater threat someone who wants to do thought control or someone that plays a game.

VegasDawg1356d ago

Everybody is hated on the internet equally.

Enigma_20991356d ago

I'm only gonna say this once so please listen.

That STILL doesn't justify the death threats and harassment.

MarkusMcNugen1356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

No one said it does... but thank you for pointing out the obvious.

insomnium21355d ago

Everyone gets death threats on the internet so why is it important only with these 2 women?

Enigma_20991355d ago (Edited 1355d ago )

You under the impression that death treats and harassment are only uncalled for in THIS situation? I assure you it's not. But this seems to be the only time that everyone wants to f*****' talk about it!!!

Death threats and harassment aren't justified... PERIOD. Now try and spin that.

insomnium21354d ago

"Death threats and harassment aren't justified... PERIOD. Now try and spin that. "

Has anyone said they are? I'm just saying they are very common so there is no need to have all this commotion when these 2 women are threatened. They are clearly using this common thing to their advantage making every gamer seem like a rapist and whatnot. Is that justified?