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$550 Alienware Alpha vs. PS4 and Xbox One - Graphics Comparison

By Peter Brown: "Alienware's getting ready to launch its console-like gaming PC, the Alpha, in just a few weeks, so we took the $550 base model and put it up against a handful of console games to see how it performs against the competition. Instead of pushing the settings on the Alpha to the max, we tuned each game to achieve the best frame rate without sacrificing too many graphical flourishes in the process."

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Foehammer1189d ago

Quite interesting

I wonder if it's upgradable?

HaydenJameSmith1189d ago

The CPU, Harddrive and Ram can be upgraded but GPU can't as its integrated to the Motherboard.

Magicite1188d ago

so basically it cant get improved visuals.

HaydenJameSmith1188d ago

@dmitrijs88

Improved visuals ? Not so much cause the GPU isn't upgradable, better performance... most probably.

ToneDeezy1188d ago

The GTX860 is a pretty high-end GPU, so it's the one that needs upgraded the least, anyway.

UltimateMaster1188d ago

So, not upgradable.
Seriously, who boost everything else BUT the GPU?

nitus101188d ago

According to the following:
http://www.polygon.com/a/e3...

"There are i5 and i7 options as well, and users can upgrade everything but the GPU on their own."

so basically "yes" you can upgrade yourself or purchase the box with the appropriate CPU. Of course the article does not mention hard disk size or replace-ability but I would assume that was was a given unless you void your warranty upon opening the case.

Anyway this product is not out till sometime next year (most likely March through June - possibly).

decrypt1188d ago

The alienware is overpriced crap. You could build a HTPC yourself with much better specs.

Having said that, the PS4 is of no contest here. As the PS4 has no games.

Meanwhile an HTPC would have access to 30+ years of gaming library. There is no contest.

torchic1188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

decrypt is back!

CernaML1188d ago

^I guess he finally figured out which part he needed to RMA.

DC7771188d ago

Which is why I wish they would just sell the box so I can build my own.

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Future_20151189d ago (Edited 1189d ago )

Every game on the comparison did look better on the alpha except watch dogs, plus you dont get tied down to a lot of those 30fps caps on consoles so you can play at a higher framerate or up the graphical settings more and get 30fps. Plus you can play console exclusive games like titanfall, ryse and dead rising 3 on pc which is a bonus. Lastly you will actually save a ton of money buying games on steam and online codes. new games on consoles around around now 40-44 pounds while on steam for example borderlands the pre equal is 29.99 pounds. also the insane sales right now on steam like grid 2 for 5 pounds

nX1188d ago

Exclusives > graphical advantages

starchild1188d ago

Which exclusives? All platforms have exclusives.

BattleAxe1188d ago

^^^

You mean games like Starcraft, World of Warcraft, Company of Heros, DOTA2 and League of Legends...exclusives like these?

starchild1188d ago

Yep, those are a few examples of PC exclusives. I don't know why some console fanboys get this strange idea that only the console they own has exclusives.

There are just as many or more exclusives I find that I like on the PC as on any of the consoles.

And another thing I like about the PC is that, besides full PC exclusives, it also gets a lot of games it shares with one console or the other. These are games that are like partial exclusives or, at least, games that you can't play on one of the consoles. I'm talking about games like Project Spark, Below, Titanfall, Ryse, and Ori And The Blind Forest, which are shared with Xbox One. Or games like H1Z1, Planetside 2, No Man's Sky, Transistor and The Witness, which are shared with PS4.

Hell, the PC also gets games like Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel and Assassin's Creed Rogue that it shares with last gen consoles, while the PS4 and Xbox One miss out on them.

There's simply no way to get the breadth and variety of games you get on PC on any other platform. If you only own one of the consoles you are going to miss out on many of these games.

Personally, I will always prefer the platform that gives me the broadest variety of games, the most flexibility in how I play those games and how they look and perform, backwards compatibility to continue playing those games even after I upgrade or change my system, options to expand or modify those games, and the best graphics and framerates available for those games.

BrianG1188d ago

Future_2015

"Plus you can play console exclusive games like titanfall, ryse and dead rising 3 on pc which is a bonus"

Titanfall, Ryse, and Dead Rising 3 are not console exclusives....

HighResHero1188d ago

Physical copies & GOG for my collection. Steam for great multiplayer and the odd discounted or obscure titles.

Spenok1188d ago

I disagree with the first part of this comment. Everything else however, is easily true with no disputing even remotely possible.

However, Tomb Raider did NOT look better, PS4 has Tressex, better texture overlays (I.E. Wet skin, and raindrops running down her skin), better, more natural lighting etc. Titanfall was very hard to tell due to the differences in gameplay so no comment. Shadow of Mordor had better lighting in PS4, thought more natural colors on the Alienware.

So in MY opinion, the extra $150 isn't worth it. Though I already have a nice PC capable of running these games as it is. However if I didn't something like this would be a clear reason to get into PC gaming. Especially with the points you made.

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raymantalk11188d ago

console versions look every bit as good and they are over a year old tech

zero_gamer1188d ago

As a PC gamer, always avoid buying these cheap "gaming" rigs. You will regret it. To get the most out of PC gaming you will spend more than you would on a console by a decent margin. That's just not going to change any time soon.

breakpad1188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

and i say what are you gonna play on this console???...Steam crappy games , LOl or WOW ?? and other crappy MMoRPG (because allt he others AAA games are released for consoles also) ..NO exclusive games -NO buying for me ...and PC lets face it has NO exclusive killer app games

Chrischi19881188d ago

Lol^^ you call yourself a gamer and act like on PC you dont get games? Many of the loved games you guys play today, started on PCs. Many games like Diablo1 came to a console, but nobody played them there, just like with every real time Strategy game. To act like a Warcraft (not WoW), Starcraft, Command and Conquer, Age of Empires, Counter Strike, Diablo2, Morrowind and so on did not define gaming as of today, of consoles, is just pure ignorance and childish behaviour. I can tell you, PC has more exclusives than any other console out there, especially if we put Indies into the calculation. Many genres were started on the PC, like ego shooters and strategic games. Ypu get a pc and ypu get hundreds of exclusives, many of them AAA titles, you get a console and get like 4. 3rd Parties excluded, as all of them get the and where do they look best? On PC. Doesnt matter? Visuals dont matter? When I am on my Wii U news, ps4 fanboys always say, visuals is what its all about, but when a pc gamer comes buy to remind that pc is best in that area, it suddenly is about gameplay and 3 exclusive games. I tell you what, I take a Starcraft over a GoW anytime, but guess what, for starcraft you need to use your brain to be good, instead of hitting just buttons. On PC many ganes at least are still hard, unlike on consoles, where all games are made easy, so every idiot thinks he is a pro gamer in that game.

DoomeDx1188d ago

If they really want to see how it holds up against current gen..They should atleast unlock the framerate so it can get above the 60FPS.

ORRR...Show the FPS of the console versions aswell :/ how can you compare something if you only show the FPS of the Alienware Alpha?

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Ghost_of_Tsushima1189d ago (Edited 1189d ago )

No games will be built specifically for the Alpha like they are for PS4 and Xbox One.

Console games are built and optimized from the ground up for the hardware inside them giving them a huge advantage.

trollmaster1189d ago

similarly no one can play previous generation games on ps4 and xbox one natively while a pc can and has a set of its own exclusives

http://static.gamespot.com/...

Ark_1189d ago

It's all coded for X86 architectures. An optimization difference is there, but shouldn't be so huge as in previous generations.

Vegamyster1189d ago (Edited 1189d ago )

Honestly this is less apparent then it was last gen now that they're sharing the same X86 architecture instead of PowerPC/Cell, a $130-150 GTX 750 Ti which is compatible with almost any tower is able to trade blows with the PS4 quite well and easily outperform the Xone.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

DougLord1189d ago

Wrong. XBone GPU has same Tflop rating as a 750ti (1.3) and access to a lot more ram. PS4 has Tflop rating slightly below a 192 bit 760 (1.8 vs 1.9) not the 256 bit which jumps to 2.3. And with coding "to the metal", getting rid of backwards compatibility overhead and the lack of optimization due to cpu/GPU fragmentation - you COULD get better results out of XBONE or PS4 then 750ti. BUT you are pairing the 750ti with a 4th gen core i5 or i7. That blows the AMD APU in the Xbone and PS4 out of the water. We are seeing A LOT of CPU bottleneck in early in this gen. Watchdogs and AC unity are the best examples. This is where DX12 will help like Mantle does for shitty low end AMD cpus on desktop. Before N4G jumps down my throat - SONY WILL EVENTUALLY RELEASE SOMETHING SIMILAR and thus I am not claiming DX12 makes Xbone better then PS4, just 25% better then it was - if used properly. And before the PC crowd jumps down my throat - 25% better isn't a huge deal. It will allow the Xbone to hit 1080p, when it other wise might hit 900p. It will allow PS4 to hit 6th p's when it might have otherwise hit 50.

Lots of misinformation out there on N4G on Xbone, PS4 and DX12 (or whatever Sony's version will be called). It won't enable 4k gaming, but you need a $5,000 computer to do that with dual 980s (9.2 tflop to do that).

Vegamyster1189d ago (Edited 1189d ago )

@DougLord

You're telling me i'm wrong yet the video proves that I'm right, even with a Pentium G3258 ($70) it still out performs the Xone at a higher res, that being said it would be better to invest in a AMD FX 6300 for $30-40 more and that eliminates any potential bottlenecks.

http://youtu.be/lUlS5Q7tEJI...

http://youtu.be/M4gaVvHXNC8...

There is more to a GPU then Tflops, clock speed is too important and the XOne's 800MHz vs the 750 Ti's 1020-1085MHz makes the difference.

" This is where DX12 will help like Mantle"

Phil Spencer himself DX12 won't help the Xone drastically:

“On the DX12 question, I was asked early on by people if DX12 is gonna dramatically change the graphics capabilities of Xbox One and I said it wouldn’t. I’m not trying to rain on anybody’s parade, but the CPU, GPU and memory that are on Xbox One don’t change when you go to DX12. DX12 makes it easier to do some of the things that Xbox One’s good at, which will be nice and you’ll see improvement in games that use DX12, but people ask me if it’s gonna be dramatic and I think I answered no at the time and I’ll say the same thing.”

BallsEye1189d ago

Exactly. If I wanna play PC games I go play on PC. Why would I want to compete in a shooter using a controller against nerds with $500 mouse/keyboard set. I could use a mouse/kb set as well but sitting on my couch with that on my lap just ain't fun.

Make a console with dedicated games and I'll be first to get one, just like I did with all others.

Vegamyster1189d ago (Edited 1189d ago )

$500 M&KB setups? Most people use average/basic stuff, i did for years before getting a Logitech g602 which was $60. you can buy both a high end M&KB for less than $200. PS you're also calling people nerds on N4G, I'd say its safe to say we're all "nerds" lol.

xtremexx1188d ago

lol cause people who play games on consoles are so much cooler than those who play games on PC -_-. everyone plays games, grow the hell up and stop calling specific gamers nerds.

Pjuice1188d ago

You can filter the server browser to find dedicated servers that use controller only if you do not want to be at a disadvantage on the couch. As pc gaming grows im thinking this will be available in more and more games. Personally i love my mouse and keyboard for competitive play, but sometimes i want to slow things down and relax and casual game with the controller.

mattdillahunty1189d ago

"Console games are built and optimized from the ground up for the hardware inside them giving them a huge advantage."

i've yet to see this huge advantage you speak of. if the advantage is so big, why aren't all console games 1080p and 60fps? how come next to none of them have "ultra setting" quality visuals? i get that games built exclusively for a console can utilizie that specific hardware more than if it was built across 4-5 platforms, but i definitely wouldn't go as far as to say there's a "huge advantage." ESPECIALLY when compared to...well...pretty much any PC game with adjustable settings.

LonDonE1188d ago

We have barely reached the end of Year 1 with the new consoles, how on earth can you even say that? its just stupid dude come on.

Its a fact that over time come year 3,4,5 and beyond games will get better, game engines will get optimised for the new consoles, developers will learn new tricks etc to push more power out!
You cant seriously expect to see this within year 1?

Its one of the big advantages of fixed hardware in consoles.
Just compare early 360 games and early PS3 games to games which released within the last 2 years on both consoles.
The differences are HUGE if you deny this then clearly you are deluding yourself.

Both consoles and PC has its advantages, its pros and cons but neither is the be all or end all! people need different things, and both suit different types of gamers.
I play on and own all the platforms and LOVE ALL OF THEM!

Vegamyster1188d ago

@LonDonE

The PC is also going to be improving too, it's not stagnate. Driver updates, Mantle, new exclusive technologys like Nvidia's new MFAA which gives the same result as MSAA but is more efficient and increases performance drastically.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

The PS3/X360 were using Cell/PowerPC, Cell was one of the hardest architectures to develop for which is why the 360 almost always had better versions of 3rd party games from a performance standpoint. X86 on the other hand is what PC's have been using for years, you have developers from both Sony & MS telling everyone how easy it was to develop for in comparison to the last consoles, so yes things will improve but don't expect to see the same results compared to the previous gen.

LonDonE1188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

@Vegamyster

Dude where in my comment did you read me saying pc wouldn't improve also? obviously as technology improves so does the tools/software's etc
But when it comes to consoles its on a whole different level! mainly due to fixed hardware!
No matter how much things improve on pc the very fact that pc hardware is so varied and different from user to user will always be a hindrance when it comes to game design.

PC is awesome and offers a very tailored experience to each gamer to suit every type of budget.
On console the hardware is fixed and so its up to the developers to optimise for better performance where as with pc allot of the developers just dont bother as much! hence all the lazy ports we have gotten on pc over the years.
Having X86 architecture has i think been a massive benefit for pc gamers since console ports should be in theory, better then they have ever been in the past.

Everything you stated is just common knowledge mate EVERY core gamer knows this.
Anyone with a brain cell knows both console and pc improve over time infact EVERY technology does its normal.

My comment was to mattdillahunty because on his comment he was expecting the improvements to be already showing which is nonsense.
They will come over time just like with all previous generations with console and pc.
And about how much things will improve i think it would be better to wait and see since speculating is pointless and i am not a programmer/game developer and i gather you are not either.

I dont know why you felt the need to state the obvious? LOL either way have a nice evening.

Volkama1188d ago

Fixed hardware is precisely why consoles are going to fall further behind as each year passes. Obviously.

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nitus101188d ago

As far as competing I think the XB1 has more to worry about since many (not all) games that come out for the XBox (360 and "one") will also come out for the PC which basically means this machine as well. So if you have this type of PC why would you really want an XBox unless it was for those games which are totally exclusive to the XBox.

Getting my crystal ball out :) I for-see (if this machine does well) longer release times between games for the XB1/XB360 and PC.

Most PC gamers already have their machines and prefer much finer control over their machine, so I don't think this will affect most serious PC gamers. It could do well as a PC gaming choice in the living room though.

As for the PS4, I don't think this machine will affect sales and games all that much, however only time will tell.

Chrischi19881188d ago

You mean optimization? This optimization is not even able to hit 1080p on all games. And dont give me the "devs have to become used to the hardware" crap. This is a x86 architecture. Devs know this stuff from like 20 years ago up until now. This optimization from last gen, was also due to the devs not knowing how to use the hardware correctly, but here they knew it from the start and still have trouble to hit 1080p. The new consoles are basically just PCs with their own OS on them. The alienware from a tech stance, is not more PC than these consoles are. Optimization wont happen like last gen. PS3 was basically a $800 maschine sold for $600 and devs not knowing how to use it, now you know, why it lasted and improved.

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strangeaeon1189d ago

Someone else should just step up and offer a real console. Screw it, why not have 5 players? I would like to see LG or Samsung make a go at it.

Volkama1188d ago

I'm actually quite surprised that Samsung still haven' entered the fray. They're well equipped t do so, at least on the hardware side.

Also quite surprised MS haven't tried to move past making hardware. Getting their OS and Live out on 3rd party hardware was always the idea I think, but no signs of that.

The 2 things both point to console hardware not being remotely lucrative in itself, and for that reason alienware and steamboxes etc are silly to try and directly match the model.

Lulz_Boat1189d ago

compare it with uc4 graphics please :D

AndrewLB1189d ago

You can't compare it's graphics to a game that nobody has seen actual gameplay footage from. You guys keep acting as if that trailer for Uncharted 4 is gameplay, and it's not.

The fact alone that no actual gameplay has been shown this close to release is strange.

I'm sure you guys remember what they did with Uncharted 3 right?

http://i.imgur.com/LfOBnhz....

Lulz_Boat1189d ago (Edited 1189d ago )

blah blah blah, stop crying little xbot. this unchy 3 comparison is useless. they just used different clothes. you can actually see drake loooking like the E3 pics in the desert section OF THE FINAL GAME. Have you ever played the game??? mhh no, because you are just a delusional bot.

chaldo1189d ago

"This close to release"

What?

BiggerBoss1189d ago

It's not surprising at all that you're using a picture off of MisterXMedia's site LOL. How about you actually play uncharted 3 and you can see just how good it looks. It's impressive even by todays standards and has some of the best rain and water I've ever seen in a game.

OT: I don't really see the appeal of the Alpha, for that price I could build a better PC, but I guess that suits Alienwares business model

Spotie1188d ago

That you resort to manufactured nonsense is both hilarious and sad.

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xtremexx1188d ago

lol, lets compare it to an unreleased game... -_-