Controversial new shooter featuring mass murder of civilians could make it to consoles, confirms indie studio.
GOTY 2015, screw Uncharted 4, The Witcher 3, Batman: Arkham Knight, Mass Effect 4 etc. Hatred is going to rule them all.
You forgot the /s or j/k This game will probably get a AO rating or catch bad press.
The game doesn't look all that interesting to me, gameplay-wise, and main character also doesn't appeal to me... ... but just like with movies, books, tv-shows, and other form of artistic expression, it's good that there's a wide variety of genres, stories, subjects, etc etc... ... which means that even if a game looks to score mostly because of 'shock-value' and media-attention and all that, it's still important that the industry is mature enough to allow for that.
Their reasoning behind why they are making this game is so convoluted and misguided it's ridiculous. These guys need mental help.
I think they should just keep this on pc
People are kicking up a fit over this game, yet going on a rampage in GTA is A-OK? It's gonna get an AO if only because of the bad press. Don't like it, don't buy it.
I may not agree with the devs' point of view, but I REALLY hate it when people are told what and what not to develop. Devs should have total freedom in the gaming industry, and if someone is offended by a certain game, tough luck then. Get lost and buy something else.
He didn't forgot the sarcasm tag, I'm almost sure that this troll can identify with the main character. His comments paint a very sad picture.
@Tomshoe Motivation and context is a very large portion of our moral compass. GTA has never been a game centered around killing innocent people. It has always only ever been a byproduct of the open design...well, for the most part, anyway. I think I'm with most other gamers on this one, though. I have nothing against the game getting released, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I have absolutely no interest in playing it, nor do I have any respect for the artistic merits of these kinds of shock tactics.
zeal0us - "This game will probably get a AO rating or catch bad press." well it's definitely going to attract the press like flies on hot crap, if this gets a port. it's too graphic for even politicians to ignore if they get involved, and that's when it all hits the fan. sucks, graphics look pretty good, i like the black and white style of it. not so much the story.
I doubt this will get green lit by either Sony or Microsoft. They are not that desperate for games on their platforms, and they don't court this kind of media controversy.
TBH though, they should. Or else it would be the same as stores banning horror-movies or slasher-movies like SAW, or bookstores banning books which content they don't agree with, etc etc. We don't want censorship. We want good games, and we want to judge for ourselves if a game is interesting and good enough to warrant a purchase. Personally, this game doesn't look very interesting to me. However, there are also many movies which personally I wouldn't be interested in, because of it's overly violent content and shock-value tactics. However, I believe that just because -I- might find it sick and disturbing and not enjoyable, that doesn't mean it should be 'banned' completely. Absolutely not. I strong disagree with censorship and such.
There are very few games that can put me on edge. Dead Space, resident evil, silent hills etc never disturbed me at all, because it wasn't realistic. But this game, Hatred, has disturbed me beyond any other game, and this is only a trailer. I'm 100% sure I will buy it because of its disturbing atmosphere alone. I really don't care if the developers are neo-nazis or antihumanist, whatever. The game looks like a rush, and I love rushes.
this is why we can't have nice things
OMG.. they made a game that only focusing on Man slaughter.. and the first thing you think about is: This is goty? Oh man... you got no class at all
How can you even compare those games with this? Seems like you play this game form above?
If this does get released, I expect this to have a strong cult following. The release on consoles will only serve to exacerbate any media frenzy against it, which it will inevitably attract. Also, there is some concerning stuff about the dev behind this game, his association with far-right neo-nazi groups etc. I think this game is unnecessary and takes violence too far by virtue of its premise.
Very much agree. Sometimes in life you just need to take a step back and say no. I wont keep anyone from making "their" game but in the same breath I don't have to support it either just because it's made.
Yeah, the more I hear about the developer, the more the game sounds like neo-nazi racist propaganda. Gamers need to be discerning enough not to accept every bit of tripe that masquerades as a game. Heck the Al-Qaeda/ISIS games at least have more 'story' and 'context' behind them. If we are able to recognise and reject those as unacceptable extremist propaganda, then we should equally reject 'Hatred' as such.
I think it would get exposure from media outlets, but I don't think it would sell well... it doesn't look fun. Violence porn does have a 'cult following' generally, but the economics associated with releasing a console game wouldn't make for a good business case here. Not to mention the esrb would probably rate it Adult Only, which is a console game death sentence.
Do you have any sources for that neo-nazi thing? My initial googling finds articles mentioning them as neo-nazis, but other articles saying it like it 'seems' like it's a game made by neo-nazis. Do we know if they really are? The game itself actually looked kinda fun for a minute, but the authenticity of the sounds of people screaming for their lives, and the animation and art for the closeup headshots seems like it'd make it uncomfortable for me personally to play. I don't think the game shouldn't be allowed to be made, and I don't think video games cause violence directly, but there are people out there that are already crazy, and just need a little bit of inspiration to go out and do something monstrous. Clearly this could inspire someone already close to the edge, and I think it's a bit irresponsible to celebrate violent hatred because 'durrhurr, we wanted to do something different', and reprehensible to do it for the more probable reason of 'durrhurr, we want attention/money'.
Nope, they're not Neo Nazis, these idiots got it wrong and everyone ran with it http://www.playerattack.co.... Look at the paltry apology at the bottom of the page they offer :/
There is no evidence that points to this, just bandwagoners promoting because they heard someone somewhere mention it.
Almost took your comment seriously until the "durrhurr" part.
if it was a movie no one will say anything and it will just get R-rated. why do we have double standard ?
Again, where were these people when Postal 3 came out? Not much controversy on it's release!
Postal was very cartoony, this is comparatively far darker, as the developer clearly aimed for 'disturbingly realistic imagery' above all else. It's like comparing watching a war movie, to watching actual war footage.
So, I take it, you were too young for Postal 1(back when those graphics were thought to be good) and you've probably only played the newer one.
Wow. More art style critics that use such judgements to decide moral allowances. Ridiculous.
@Morgan Wow more people hiding behind "art style" as an excuse for pure garbage. I'm for free speech but I also can use my freedom of speech to say this game is pure crap. They can make what ever they want but be prepared for others to speak their mind and who are you to say they are wrong.
@oculusrift You would be wrong in your assumption. Very wrong. Even when postal graphics were thought to be "good", it still couldn't be taken for anything other than cartoon violence. There is are huge thematic, tonal, and symbolic differences between Hatred and Postal. Perhaps it's YOU who isn't mature enough to see that... @morgan In what way am I judging the 'art style' or morality? His comment was about a relative lack of controversy when comparing this game to Postal. Apparently, society is a little less sensitive to cartoon violence than they are realistic depictions of torture, mutilation, and murder... And even less tolerant of providing consumers with a means to carry out such realistic acts virtually. It's an observation, not a judgement.
Seems like the game was made controversial just for controversy's sake. No thanks.
Meh, they won't be getting my money. One for angry teenage boys no doubt.
Well thats taking anti-hero to a new level
My type of game will definitely look out for it ;) Edit: Just saw the trailer ohh man they would make Rockstar proud
This is so similar to miley cyrus. She didn't care what people thought about her. She just cared about the free advertising, being provocative and a big fat paycheck every week. This game will get talked on about a lot. Free advertising on the news. Either this is a great idea as far as making money or the devs are really messed up in the head. Hopefully this game has a leaderboard to keep track of the actual crazy people that might snap. Heck maybe it keeps them in check. But either way this game is just too much of a touchy subject and in a way poking fun of all the massacres that happened before.
I pray to the invisible man in the sky this comes to consoles.
I think there's probably too much heat on this game for it to make it to consoles.
this game is taking violence way too far and has crossed the line and i'm usually glad when i see violence in a game. even Manhunt had context that you were a bad trying to survive other bad guys but this game seems to have a goal of killing innocent people for no reason. how can a sane person even think this game is a good idea nevermind create and release it ?
the context of Manhunt was different, but that does not make Manhunt any less brutal or disturbing. In both games you kill NPCs only that Manhunts premise is that they are criminals, whether in Hatred they are "innocent". Last time I checked it doesn't matter whether someone is innocent or not, killing him/her is murder either way. The question whether it is OK to play killing some NPC's or not or whether the game has to specifically mention that the NPC's to kill deserve death to make it acceptable is a really silly one. We might first discuss whether any NPC deserves death at all ;)
I like my fair share of violent video games but this one is disgusting killing for the sake of killing is dumb I honestly hope this game never see's the light of day
I feel the way you do about the violence, but I don't think the game shouldn't be made because of that. Otherwise, I'd say no survival horror games should be made. That would be wrong, given the number of people that do and will enjoy them. On that note, why aren't horror fans considered sick in the head, too? Why aren't their devs thought to be crazy?
People are making such a big deal about this game you can do the the same thing in gta go on mass murder sprees kill anyone you like... nobody complains about that though ? yeah it's alot more violent but it makes it no better killing innocent people in this game then it does in GTA
At least you won't feel anything when you run someone over in GTA, you might even laugh when you do. But this game the people beg for you not to kill them over and over again in a completely realistic manner. They are completely different.
It still doesn't defeat the purpose of killing a innocent bystander doesn't make you less of a killer killing is killing no matter how you put it it doesn't make it any better because one is less violent then the other that's like saying this guys less of a killer then this guy because he gives his victims a last prayer before he kills them
Call me sick but i find that hilarious, (Please don't kill me weeeh!) Shut up and bleeed you motherfuBOOM! Right in the face, Satisfying indeed. Keep in mind it's just a video game.
If you don't understand how this game is different then you are probably a very disturbed individual and will enjoy playing this game. So if you want to imagine what it's like to kill people in real life this is the best simulator for you. @Stapleface I never said killing in a virtual world is the same as killing in real life. Even if I did that wouldn't make me disturbed. So your basically saying since something is not technically a living human we should be able to create anything? Yeah I bet you would play these developers next game Child Rape Simulator and everyone who is in agreement with their first game will hop right onto it and call it art. Why are people so immature and thoughtless these days.
Your the disturbed one if you consider the code your "shooting" at in games to be people. I've never killed a person, ever. The NPC's in video games, no matter how realistic the look or sound, are not people. They are code. If they were people I would have never played any game where you shot someone. But, since they don't actually exist outside of code, they are not people. They don't have jobs, families, they don't actually eat and sleep. When you turn the game back on they respawn. People do not respawn. If you can't see the difference then you are probably a very disturbed individual because even though you see code as real people, you still shoot.
The theme and tone do make it different. The world of GTA is so unrealistic, that it's nearly impossible to inspire an emotional response to the death of NPCs. Killing a bystander in GTA feels more like stepping on an ant, than it is blowing a crying woman's brains out. The developers of Hatred went along way to make their NPCs seem more like humans. It's no wonder people, even hardcore gamers, found the trailer disturbing. No killing an NPC is not like killing a real human, and it never will be. But games are meant to be fun. And it shouldn't be a surprise to find out that there are a number of people who fail to see the humor in killing NPCs that respond so realistically to having a pistol shoved in their mouth. It also shouldn't be surprising that folks would be worried about the mental state of people who do enjoy such imagery.
GTA doesn't go far into killing where there so much gore where heads blows off, execute people, mass murder and etc. Hatred has no police coming after you. GTA is optional to kill innocent and there a penalty being swatted on and killed. Not core game design or GTA.
Man this is just a modern Postal, nobody remembers it?
But the graphics were not as good back the, and it's a video game, not a movie so it's different. /s Double standards. People love them.
Nope, most of N4G's first console was the PS2 during kindergarten.
I don't accept this type of game in anyway I just don't get why it's such a big deal when you can simply do the the same thing in Other video games
If you don't like the idea , don't buy it ! It not rocket science. I wouldn't get it as it doesn't appeal to me but if it floats your boat then why shouldn't you have the choice?
Agreed, I'll likely never play the game but the choice should be there.
It isn't that simple. Games like this encourage stupid people to do stupid things. We have enough pandemonium going on in the world. The last thing we need is another excuse for some socially retarded teenagers to go on a shooting spree.
If someone is going to go on a shooting spree , it isn't down to games/films etc. they will do it regardless. Maybe certain countries should look at their gun laws first.....
Its no different than any other game in which you can kill human being. Take GTA or any open world game for example, anyone deranged would find it fun to run Over random people with a car and might try it in real life. Like I said this game isn't any different than what postal (and the sequel) did a couple of years ago.
Then let's ban all movies, books and others forms of speech that do this to keep the stupid from doing stupid things.
Whether games exist or not people will and will always do stupid things
Again, I don't condone censorship. I believe a artists should have the freedom to express themselves. This isn't art in any form. These asshole developers take the Columbine killers' mindset, apply it to their main character, and make the objective of their game killing innocent people who are begging for their lives. If this is the shit your into then you've got problems. Having a little fun with the NPC's in GTA is totally different. They fight back then a crazy police chase ensues that mostly ends with you not getting away with your crime. You don't blow people's heads off or shoot them in the mouth as they plead with you not to kill them. What's next. A child porn ring sim? Would you be into that too? Sick f***s.
All i can say is when little teenage Trevor or Connor comes to a public place dress in all black and you are having dinner,watching a movie or just going to school run for the exit ASAP!
A mass murder simulator is exactly what we need in our current social climate. As if kids today aren't fucked up enough. I thought the trailer was a parody of video game violence. Couldn't believe it was real. Who creates such a game but a bunch of misanthropic twats who need to be psychoanalyzed.
Pretty sure kids today have done an outstanding job with killing each other over petty reasons with their already screwed up psyche. Now any sane person with a basic understanding of the difference between virtual and reality that will play this, myself included will treat it just like any other game and nothing more. Been killing people in games for years, context is irrelevant as bad and good are human concepts.
Yeah, sadly we live in a society that harbors disturbed teenagers who need crap like this to trigger their inner psycho. Trust me, I like causing havoc in GTA just like any other healthy person who had a stressful day at work but when the main point of the game is to go around slaughtering innocent people in such brutal fashions just because you hate humanity that is just begging some kid who isn't wired correctly to completely snap.
I doubt this game would be the triggering point for someone who has a preexisting condition for already hating humanity. It would not be the sole beneficiary attributing to an already screwed up individual, more or less society itself being the biggest contributor to their mental degradation. You can't blame this game for that just like you can't blame movies or books that cover this kind of subject matter. Games like this have a right to exist and shouldn't be faulted for another person's actions or feelings.
You missed my point. Of course an individual capable of murder has a preexisting mental condition attributed to bad parenting, chemical imbalance, broken society, etc... but do we really need crap like this to encourage the crazies to start actually murdering people. I really don't see how this game is necessary. What is the appeal of going around and brutally murdering innocent people who are begging for their lives? I'm the last person to sensor any form of media but this is just stupid and sick. All I see is fodder for controversy.
>As if kids today aren't fucked up enough There is this notion again. If a kid gets a hold of this game blame the parents for allowing it. With terrible parents kids will probably get access to gruesome content that you can easily find online (Liveleak anyone?).