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Cliff Bleszinski: GOW2 Kicks Sh*t Out Of PC Gears.

Many are arguing over Gears Of War 2's graphical prowess. Just how good are those visuals? Will the sequel be able to stack up against the might of Killzone 2 and Resistance 2? Well, I don't know the answer to those specific questions, but in a recent Q&A session with EGM, game producer Cliff Blezinski gave a few hints of what's in store. Cliffy B pulled no punches about the sequel's graphical calibre and boasts that there are things in Gears Of War 2 that will make the levels in the PC version of Gears 1 look like a day at the beach! Quotes after the break. (Gears of War 2, Xbox 360)

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Says you  +   2714d ago
Sure it does he doesn't know that on the PC
You can actually maximize the graphics in anyway you want

Cliff Bleszinski=Fail when it comes to PC

I can get a 9800 GT X Ultra that would out do Gears of War 2
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Montrealien  +   2714d ago
So you mean to tell me Gears of war 2 on a console that has tech nearing 3 years old can be out performed by one of the best graphic cards available today? Frankly I am shocked!
*rolls eyes*

Let the man do his PR, when this game comes out it will look great and be fun. We'll worry about Gears of war 2 running on a top end PC in 09. This is old also btw, I read this in my EGM a month ago...
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Condoleezza Rice  +   2714d ago
But we all know,once GeOW 2 on PC arrives,it will be the superior version;more Dev time+Power=Improved Graphics,eliminated bugs,tweaks,etc
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TheMART  +   2714d ago
Depends depends

UT3 on the PC sold somewhere between 40 and 50k world wide. Epic isn't pleased about that at all. Even worse, they already announced the next Unreal Engine 4 will only be made for consoles, no PC support anymore.

You might see that Gears 2 will only appear on the 360, with Epic just forcing customers that want to play it (and foremost those PC gamers that had Gears 1 on their PC) to get a XBOX 360.

Just think about it: it would be perfect marketing. First get those PC owners to love an IP like Gears. Then get the sequel out but not on the PC, just on the 360. Imagine that, more hardware sold and for sure a hit selling copies on the 360.

Thus: I wouldn't wait too much (and especially not a full year before you can play a game. I played Gears at Holidays 2006, you at Holidays 2007 pretty lame).
morganfell  +   2714d ago
It doesn't depend depend worth a damn. PC Gears 2 will look far better than 360 Gears. That is what is being said. That doesn't depend on anything. Does that make the PC version better? I don't think so. I have a great PC with a 9800 1GB GX2 and I prefer my consoles and I have all of them. But I don't come onto a forum to make a ridiculous counterpoint just because it casts the console I worship in a bad light.

If the game were going to be 360 exclusive with no PC version you would have heard about it already. All of us in the Unreal Developer Network were playing selected Gears levels on the PC 6 months before it was even announced. Epic was still saying there were no plans for the PC version and we were already running 95% complete levels.
rbanke  +   2714d ago
I dont disagree with your points, however why would Epic care if people are buying 360's to play GOW2 instead of just buying it on the pc?

It's good for MS, but it doesnt really change much for Epic.
littletad  +   2714d ago
Yes, because the majority of us are pc gamers...
Give me a break. No matter how many times you use the "also on pc" slap, it will still sell better on a console, better graphics or not.
TheMART  +   2714d ago
@ rbanke

Epic cares about it because:

On PC most people are downloading illegally, compared to the number of copies of the same game is sold multiple times of the PC counterpart.

Check UT3, sold 40 to 50k on the PC, I bet the PS3 sold many times that number, although having a much lower installed based compared to the number of PC owners.

Thus: I bet Epic likes the idea much better of Gears 2 selling like hot cakes on the 360, then being copied like hell on the PC. That changes a lot for Epic. It means they earn more money instead of crying over the number of illegal PC downloads

@ Morganfell

Well that isn't strange if Gears 2 would come to PC. Simply because PC hardware keeps upgrading monthly and the console hardware is already almost 3 years old for the 360.

Plus: Gears 1 got a year extra devtime over the 360 version. So that's a no brainer.

Don't know if we should have heard about 360 having Gears 2 exclusive. E3 is still to come you know... A perfect time to announce something like that
Condoleezza Rice  +   2714d ago
"No matter how many times you use the "also on pc" slap, it will still sell better on a console, better graphics or not."
Yet I didn't mention anything to do with sales and I'm still going to be getting the 360 version on day 1.

And the PC version will,more than likely,run and look better due to more dev time.
fermcr  +   2714d ago
@TheMART at Xboxkings "UT3 on the PC sold somewhere between 40 and 50k world wide"

In the first 3 days UT3 sold 30k to 40k in America (not counting the rest of the world) and Crysis sold 90k... i remember that news. So you say that from November till now UT3 only sold 10k in the PC's. What about world sales?

How do you know that UT3 sold 50k ? You just made that up.

A few months back, EPIC announced that UT3 sales had readched a million, not specifying console sales or pc sales.

If you go to http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

The PS3 version sold 500k, so do your math. I guess PC sales are not that bad.
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littletad  +   2714d ago
And yet...
There's no mention of a pc Gears 2 yet.
LaChance  +   2714d ago
Anyway I doubt
no matter how good the PC version (lol , if it ever comes out) you guys will paly it (people on N4G).

So hypocrite.

You guys say PC this , PC that but the PC threads on N4G are as empty as empty can be.

Even Mass effect PC threads were sadly empty.

Speaks for itself.
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morganfell  +   2714d ago
When you are wrong, let's all use the Mart defense and just make some crap up. E3 would be a perfect time to announce that Sony has bought EA. See how that sounds? let's just predicate a belief on something we would like to happen. Facts my man, facts.

No one is talking about sales, we are talking about quality. This quality isn't just graphical either. Didn't you and I both play Gears on the 360 and miss combat with a certain enemy? Didn't we miss a level or two?
InMyOpinion  +   2714d ago
Is that Condoleezza Rice trying to downplay yet another 360 title? Naaah! Can't be! lol!
JsonHenry  +   2714d ago
Does anyone else want to beat the sh*t out of this guy every time he pokes his gremlin-like head out to make a dumbass anouncement? I loved Gears of War as much as the next guy (waiting for the PC version of GoW2 though) but for some reason this guy makes me see red.
THAMMER1  +   2714d ago
Did you buy it for your PC?
I hope so because if you did not you just another slobbering bottom feeding PS3 troll that we are all getting so used too. (SHAKES HEAD @ OBVIOUS fanboy BS)
Bolts  +   2714d ago
I always buy 360 games on the PC, even if I own them already. For one, they look A LOT better, perform better, and even more importantly, play better.

But the number one reason why they're better on the PC is the price. You can buy Gears of War for $15 on ebay, thats not much more than a Live DLC.

Overall if you haven't played Gears of War in true 1080p with 4X AA at 60 FPS then you haven't played Gears of War period. Its as if the console version is missing half of the textures. I'm serious, the 360's version looks totally crippled compared to this.
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MADGameR  +   2714d ago
It is true
Cliffy B is just trying to hype it up for the 360 version so that it can try to surpass the sales of GsOW1. Then when GsOW2 comes out for PC, it will definately have better graphics, more maps, etc.
name  +   2714d ago
Epic has a habit of insulting their previously released games for the sake of promoting their new one. Remember when they said PS3 unreal tournament destroys gears of war? And then how the 360 version destroys that? And so on.
DJ  +   2714d ago
Well that's not what we're seeing in the gameplay footage
Or the screenshots. Epic's just spouting a bunch of BS, as usual.
TheMART  +   2714d ago
Mmhhh I still remember DJ the BJ saying about Gears 1 that it would be a huge dissapointment, no AAA over 90% scoring game.

And Gears 1 becames 2006 GOTY, one of the best games up to date, defeating every PS3 game that came out.

You're a funny guy. You're trying it again? Dude, Epice gave you one of the best PS3 game up to date, UT3 and you're still crying?

Stop it girl. Gears 2 will chainsaw your beloved Resistance 2 in two parts.
LaChance  +   2714d ago
Geez , give it a rest.
The Geow 2 trailer clearly looked better than Geow 1 on PC.
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poopface1  +   2714d ago
illl wait to play it before judging
you and all the morons who agree with you stupid statement most defiantly dont even have an XBOX360. I watched the gameplay trailer I got from live and it looks alot better than gears 1. gears 1 looks better than most games that come out today.... it doesnt take a moron to put two and two together. But the MAIN thing that I noticed from the trailer was its SMOOTHER than gears one.
DJ  +   2714d ago
Wow, that's a big accusation Mart.
Got any proof?
Bnet343  +   2714d ago
The game still has 4 months left to go, I am pretty sure that alot of time to improve the graphics.
TheMART  +   2714d ago
@ DJ

Go read back your own comments early 2006 downplaying on Gears of War upcoming for Holidays 2006. Funny you forgot that. I won't be searching up the stupid stuff you made up.

Also remembering that so called 'dev info' you ripped of a forum where several nerds were posting all kind of nonsense you copied to N4G. Funny guy.
crank  +   2714d ago
It'd be great if you committed suicide, you'd save me all the typing mart!


The acting and script in your precious Gears are so trivial, unconvincing, and just plain bad that it makes FF 10 look oscar worthy so shut the **** up about game of the year. Politely, I might add, to avoid banning. We are just talking, I swear.

Seriously, deep down, BAN ME.
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name  +   2714d ago
I actually think gears 2 took a leap from the PC gears 1. It looks good imo.
PoSTedUP  +   2714d ago
after gears 2 EPIC is free to roam. unless MS wants it again. which they really shouldnt give up. damn, i need a new account.
ape007  +   2714d ago
great news
I hope just it have more gameplay ideas,more wepons
and more epic huge battles
varied levels and exellent pacing
name  +   2714d ago
Gears of War seems more appropriate as an Xbox exclusive imo. Everything about the game just screams "xbox".
Tyrael  +   2714d ago
And Gears 3 will look better than Gears 1 and 2. Common sense check? I think I see the obvious fleet on our radar...
rbanke  +   2714d ago
Quoted October 12th, 2009 from Cliffy B:

"Gears 3 is amazing, it makes Gears 2 look like a train wreck, I look at Gears 3 and want to piss on Gears 2!"
user858621  +   2714d ago
this guy is hilarious lmao!! he finks 3fixme is powerful then a pc lol he actually finks the visuals of gears compares to crysis lmao hahaha
Jerkapotamus  +   2714d ago
Day at the beach?
He really needs to choose his analogies more carefully. I think of a day at the beach as being beautiful, which would mean Gears 2 makes Gear PC look beautiful. Unfortunately for CliffyB, just because an analogy works for describing the badassness of a game (beach is calming, therefore, not so badass), does not mean it can work for the graphical prowess.
Bnet343  +   2714d ago
Gears 2 will kick the sh*t out of everything.
littletad  +   2714d ago
I always thought you were a ps3 owner only. Is there someone else with your avatar?
Bnet343  +   2714d ago
I like Street Fighter, why does that make you think I am a PS3 owner? I want a PS3 though, Xbox 360 is getting B~O~R~I~N~G. I am broke as hell ATM.
Commandant  +   2714d ago
Afraid not.
MGS4 has that title.
LinuxGuru  +   2714d ago
Gears of War 2 looks the same plus a different style of texturing + more post-processing-ish lighting.
Bnet343  +   2714d ago
Yup, can't argue with that. Looks the same to me, but I care about the gameplay more then the graphics, I am hoping they do not tweak it too much.
gk07  +   2714d ago
gears 2 on 360 looks to me just a little better then 1. fools need to stop the exclusive talk,exclusive my ass then just want to sell copys on 3 fix me i like that ill wait for the pc version .and of gears 1 should look better then 1 you think . take out all the moss on everything and it looks the same
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Varsarus  +   2714d ago
sigh, what a clown, PC is countless more powerful than 360.

PS3?, well that can't be sure, especially in the CPU area, Cell completely destroys any CPU out there
Apocalypse Shadow  +   2714d ago
most gamers with eyes can see the truth,ps3 or true 360 fans
it's not that we're bagging on the game,just being REALISTIC.

gears was a fun game.gears 2 looks to be a fun game.it's the only next gen game that kind of looks like how contra would look like.

but the truth is in your faces.polygons have been LOWERED in some areas,lighting was only ADJUSTED and textures have only been SWAPPED.it's an obivous DOWNGRADE to get more onscreen.

that's just the truth.

are we saying 360 has been maxed out?i don't think so.what we are saying is UNREAL ENGINE 3 has been MAXED OUT.there's no massive jump in these pics.and you won't see a massive jump in MOTION.

UNREAL ENGINE 3 is MAXED OUT.if every developer on 360 continues to use unreal as there middleware engine,you will never see anything better than gears.if any of you knew what MIDDLEWARE means,then you will know that this engine is a jack of all trades but not the best engine.

we have seen racing games,action games,third person,first person,etc.,and they ALL LOOK ABOUT THE SAME.even unreal tournament on ps3 looks simular to these games.if devs use this engine instead of something made from THE GROUND UP for 360,you won't see 360 hanging with ps3 IN-HOUSE games.

that's just the truth.i mean if i was being fanboyish,i would say things like 360 being maxed out.or even games like ninja gaiden 2 don't look any better than sigma but just adds blood.or forza2 not looking better than GT5...well actually,it doesn't.i could slam banjo3,i could slam fable for not looking great either.but that's not what i'm going to do.

and 360 will never match PC.and we have all seen gears on PC looking better than gears on 360.it's just more powerful.cliffy can hype his game,but it won't change the facts about unreal engine3.it's getting OLD.and real quick.and that's for any system.and we have seen ps3 engines already outdo unreal engine 3 in lighting,detail,draw distance,etc.

i'm saying,"UNREAL ENGINE 3 IS MAXED OUT."no buts about it.sit in denial,disagree for all i care.but everyone here,even true 360 fans can see it.360 needs a new graphics engine to compete with sony IN-HOUSE games.or you'll be left with just "GAMEPLAY",because graphics won't be something 360 fans will use against ps3 ever again.

LegendKillar  +   2714d ago
agree 100%.
littletad  +   2714d ago
Nice avatar
Though I'm more of a Deadpool fan.
Pp p  +   2714d ago
I wouldn't call resistance 2 mighty, those resistance 2 graphics can be done on the wii
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G1TR4P3D  +   2714d ago
so very true.
Egzekutor  +   2714d ago
Do it then. Whats the problem ?
Jack The Lad  +   2714d ago
your truly DUMB Pp_p
snoopgg  +   2714d ago
the wi cant even do
ps2 God of war graphics for christ sake. The wii sucks!! and so does your statement. Its just plain shat!!!
G1TR4P3D  +   2714d ago
Cliff Bleszinski: GOW2 Kicks Sh*t Out Of PC Gears.
Gears is the new Halo, and every droid is scared sh1tless of it. So all they can do is talk sh1t. lol. meanwhile they hype two FPS sh1tters which got destroyed by the competition the last time out (by halo and gears, obviously). funny stuff.

dumb droids.
-Maverick-  +   2714d ago
You're living in your own little universe. Gears is "the new Halo"...whatever that means.

gEARS ONLY SOLD 4.5 MILLION. MGS4 IS GONIG TO KILL GEARS OF WAR IN SALES...and be way better than Gears 2 or Halo 3. Period. We will have to wait until Reistance 2 and Killzone 2 arrives. You're going to be butthurt.
G1TR4P3D  +   2714d ago
4.5 million? check again. it sold that in one week. same with halo. mgs is selling like sh1t by comparison.

Commandant  +   2714d ago
I'm sorry, I'm sorry
Are you serious Raped? Did you think that statement though?
MGS4. Out...9 days. Sold 1.4 million, last I checked.
Gears. Out...Since Nov. 17, 2006. Sold 4.7 million, according to wikipedia.

By comparison, I'd say Gears is selling like sh*t.
Better luck next time, champ.
snoopgg  +   2714d ago
gears is the new halo I agree its
totally overhyped. Graphically, gears was so overhyped. Its just average people. Until I see something better looking then Call of Duty 4 on the 360, I won't fall prey to the hype of Gears of War 2, the new halo.
zethos56  +   2714d ago
@everyone above
Do you morons realize that 4.7 million was about half the 360's that were out there at the time???
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Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   2714d ago
For a second there I thought he was comparing God of War 2 to Gears. lol
GameHero  +   2714d ago
Hey cliffy,
hate to break it to you, but gears2 looks exactly the same!

Morgue  +   2714d ago
Anyone going too the beach?
RiseOfMonster  +   2714d ago
Something tells me.
That the PC hardware requirements for Gears 2 (PC version) aren't going to be that different from Gears 1 (PC version).
Apocalypse Shadow  +   2714d ago
as we can see,those that have no counter point are disagreeing.
but have no words to back themselves up.and they think ps3 fans somehow fear this game when we have seen better game engines that are exclusive to ps3.

the only thing cliffy is saying is that this game will have more action that will beat the PC version of gears 1.but he's definitely not saying that gears2 on 360 will look BETTER than gears 1 on PC.it just won't happen.

a long time ago,people thought 360 would be capable of doing directx 10.as we can see,that's not the case in 360's third year.360 is just not poweful enough to keep up with PC.and it doesn't have enought ram.

will gears2 be a fun game?sure.but don't assume that this game will make some massive leap in the next 5 months before release.if EPIC said they were using UNREAL ENGINE 4,and it could run on 360,then i would say that it will blow gamers away beyond gears 1.

and as for gameplay,there will be improvements as all sequels do to try to beat the previous one.but are 360 fans really thinking that EPIC will reinvent the wheel?rail shooting is not reinventing.improved lighting is not or a few extra characters.

you will shoot more,chainsaw more and get just a little more in multiplayer.but.....THAT'S ALL YOU GET.and if you can live with that than think you're getting a massive upgrade in graphics,then there's nothing wrong with that.

poopface1  +   2714d ago
better game engines is COMPLETLY subjective. Gears 1 being better than EVERY game on PS3 except maby MGS4 is completly fact.
Charmers  +   2714d ago
So basically what Cliff Bleszinski is saying is exactly what all PC gamers knew when Gears of War 1 came out, it was rubbish. Really Cliff do the PC a favour and leave the format alone.
1stKnighT  +   2714d ago
Gears 2 will be a graphical improvement over the first Gears including the PC version. No doubt about that. Will it be better than Killzone 2 in the graphics department? Who knows. Both games look great. Resistance 2 on the other hand looks like crap, just like the first one did.
Big Jim  +   2714d ago
Gears had better graphics than Resistance, yes, but Resistance was more fun, a lot more fun. Stop and pop gameplay gets boring very quickly. Who wants to hide behind cover, wait for the enemy's head to pop out, take a couple of shots, get behind cover again and repeat. Most of gears' gameplay is waiting. The average person gets tired of stop and pop gameplay really easily, and that's why Dark Sector didn't sell very well, even though its pretty much just like gears. Thats why Uncharted didn't sell very well. People like running and gunning more than hiding behind cover. Also, Resistance's story was far better than gears. Not to mention that gears has terrible voice acting, and the worst draw distance in the history of videogames. Do you know what draw distance is? Didn't you notice it in Gears? Sure, I'm gonna play Gears 2, I'll rent it. But I'm gonna buy Resistance 2 because I know that it will be more fun. Running and gunning always will be.
SKUD  +   2714d ago
I disagree. PC version will all ways be better. Not to discount the xbox360 but I would understand why they would say this since they need to sell as many copies as they can. Business as usual.
BPN  +   2714d ago
Hold on a sec
Wasn't CB all over Gears1 PC's nutsack, talking about how unparalleled the port's graphics were and weren't accomplishable on 360? This guy's as real as a three dollar bill.
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power of Green  +   2714d ago
What they will show us at E3 will have people saying *WTF! how is that possible?*. Every time we see GoW2 footage or images they're no doubt past builds of the game.
Commandant  +   2714d ago
Don't believe you.
I mean, this game is kinda cool. Somewhat interesting, very steroid-filled. It's a lot like Call of Duty 4. The whole game is cool, but once you get past the initial shock value, it's very superficial.
zodiac909  +   2714d ago
"Will the sequel be able to stack up against the might of Killzone 2 and Resistance 2? " wtf is he smoking!?
Commandant  +   2714d ago
It's a resounding, unemotional "no".
Egzekutor  +   2714d ago
Halo 3 is just like Haze = CRAP.

Two over-hyped games.. I have no idea why so much of it sold though..

And the truth is that GOW in general both 1 and 2 are not suitable for online gaming.. maybe the co-op mode, but stuff like team deathmatch just doesnt work. I know because i have it on 360. The best online gaming you can get right now is on COD4 ;)
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