Ubisoft confirmed yesterday that Assassin’s Creed Unity will be locked at 900p/30fps on both Xbox One and PlayStation 4. Could this be the beginning of the end of the console war? Or the start of something much worse?
What are you smoking bro? There will never be an end to the console war ;)
If I was the stronger, faster athlete but still got a 2nd place award and treated the exact same as the runner up because they believed in parity and everyone is a winner for trying, I would seriously want to punch the prize giver in the face.
You talkin' to me?
people come up with the most hilarious things lol http://i.imgur.com/lB5TfrZ....
There could be an end to the console war if everyone stopped supporting the attitude of (mine is bigger than yours). Simple fact about supply and demand, you demand the console wars and they supply the fuel. So how about we all just ask for better games and stop with the resolution and console superiority war then maybe we can get back to having games with some innovation in them. Frankly I'm tired of recycled games like the AC series and basically anything EA publishes. I want developers to start trying new things like star citizen and no man's sky are doing. I want developers to feel like we support their efforts to be bold with their imaginations and allow them to invent new ways to immerse everyone into their vision. Sadly that's not going to happen for a while because everyone is too focused on who has the bigger wiener this gen Xbox or Playstation.
if create parity on all consoles it will kill gaming evolution imo. one being better than other pushes creativity and spec upgrades. look at the issue we had last gen with dvd discs vs bluray. this time its the console. if developer doesnt make the most out of each console i wont be able to support them. devs should make the most out of each console or is it going to come down to own party devs to embarrass the 3rd party devs again??
This is not a good thing, at all. ALso, debates have not stopped, it actually has increased after this move by Ubisoft. I hope other companies do not follow suit.
Dude, get a life already. If you put as much energy into things that really matter you'd probably enjoy the leisure of playing video games more. I'm very disturbed that so many adults making comments like yours make up the majority of the accounts on this site. Then again maybe a lot of the accounts on this site are the n4g site monitors brilliantly stirring up arguments because it gives them hits. How many gamers were outraged over this news that it became an issue so soon? Who did a survey? How many actually own a PS4? Pointless.
Well..the original story that broke this news here on N4G has over 500 comments. While N4G certainly isn't representative of the entire gaming community, it is generally a good barometer for things that that community is upset or annoyed about. Maybe you don't want to accept it, and honestly, I will concede that there is a bit too much hyperbole already inserted into all this, but this thing has obviously annoyed quite a few gamers, and much like MS DRM stuff, it sets a bad precedent for the rest of this generation should it just go on with no criticism. As far as the actual subject at hand, I see no problem with gamers of a particular system being annoyed that they aren't getting the most out of their console due to publishers/devs trying to maintain parity(something that didn't exist before last gen). To most of them I say if they want that, just skip this title. It's just another AC game. I doubt they'd be missing out on much...or they could wait for the inevitable $20 version with 3 games bundled and a crap ton of DLC a couple years from now.
epic fail at clickbait,
Destiny Beta was 900p, the retial release was 1080p so the author is just wrong. Xbox releases at a sub full HD resolution, everyone laughs claiming look at that pathetic hardware... PS doesn't hit 1080p, it's fine as it's an intensive game (so long as it's better than XBO)... Parity, PS version is gimped. Most multiplat games will always run better on PS4, but it's sure going to be amuzing watching all the hate at resolution parity on comparible machines.
Apologies for the miss print, I was still under the impression Destiny was running at 900p on Xbox One. I still stand by my statement that it looked and felt better on PS4. I'll amend the article accordingly.
No worries, glad you take the time to stay accurate. I'll take your word for it, seems to be the case for most games.
I think the mixed messaging from Ubisoft is what created this debate.
the problem with ubisoft is they dont want the fanboys arguing on which game is better but on the flick side they should do pc , xbox n ps4 to there full potential if they have the power to do that not gimp an of them
Ubisoft are as deep in M$'s butt as EA are. Ps4 exclusives will show these plebs what true console power is.
True. Sony's first party studios generally destroy what third party has to offer in terms of using the PS4 to full potential. Pity M$ can't do the same and invest in their own first party studios.
Well said. A company with virtually limitless cash and no clue how to use it. 343i is a great start, if only they did more of this and less of what they did with RARE. MS are pretty good at following in the footsteps of others so why not just copy what Sony are doing with their first party devs? They seem to think its a better idea to invest in another fail launch in japan and shoving Kinect into everyones faces. Wake up guys.
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What all three of you all are saying is just falling on deaf ears! Anyone thinking any good can come from this is....Well delusional! Setting a presedence in this manner does nothing for the consumer, developers or, the console makers. It just proliferates the belief that just as good as is sufficient to the majority, never taking into consideration that quality should be the driving factor that promote sales, not a hinderance.
Just give me fun video games to play, with smooth gameplay mechanics , and i will be happy.
This was one of the most boneheaded stunts for a developer to pull. Why even tell the press?MS is not just happy with buying DLC because it's not stopping people from buying more copies of the ps4 version so now Ubisoft goes a extra mile to give the Xbox the upperhand. Lol good luck with that
just a question, since the game is cpu heavy like the article says, and the xbox cpu is faster then the ps4's cpu 1.6vs1.75 wouldnt be the ps4 holding back the xbox??
Shhh! N4G community will have none of that logical talk about CPU speed around here.
oh lmao..im a new user, but the fanboyism is rampet on this site....honestly ubi should just cancel the ps4 version since these people show no respect
you're new here? and very ignorant at that too. here is a link many has put up for you to read before even start thinking the Xbone has better CPU http://www.cinemablend.com/... and you're throwing up this "cpu heavy" thing like you're very sure of it. where's the proof of this "cpu heavy" thing actually running?
oh god here it goes.....and anyways that link you posted didnt say if they used the specs of the old cpu the x1 originally had, or the last minute change they made before release, the ps4 has a similar cpu to the xbox but the ps4 is rated at 1.6 and the xbox is rated at 1.75
No, because the resolution of the game isn't dependent on the speed of the CPU. Very little part of a games resolution involves the CPU, and certainly not enough to warrant a 44% drop in pixels. The framerate, on the other hand could definitely be held back by a slower CPU, however, given that the difference it only about 10%(assuming OS footprints being equal...which they aren't), it's unlikely to make much more than a 1-2 fps difference. 30fps locked in a MP game though isn't a bad thing, and is a reasonable target for this type of game. A lot of it depends on how the game loop is programmed, and to that, I can't say what this particular game does that would warrant a drop on either system.
When has the Xbox one outperformed the ps4 with any game? 1080P is done on the gpu side framerate is cpu so why aren't xbox one games have a higher fps then the ps4? Why does it take so much for people to understand that the ps4 has more power the Xbox one?
Yeah, unfortunately there is no "misinterpretation" as they would like you to think. It was made very clear that the reason both consoles have the same specs is because they wanted to end the debate and stuff. Not because one console could or could not perform as well as the other, but because they wanted to end the debate. That's why people are pissed. That implies that these two versions were artificially put into parity. They said their goal was to make it 1080p/60fps and now they're saying their target goal the whole time was 900p/30fps? Huh? I could care less about tech specs of a game, and had they said nothing, I would have been fine. But they shot themselves in the foot and are now trying to say everything's ok. And BTW, if they spent 4 years working on a next gen game and the best they could come up with was 900/30, then something is wrong with the design of this game.
I believe their engine is outdated more than the game design. If it's still using CPU compute as a priority then it's certainly not current to emerging or even somewhat common trends within game programming of the last 4-5 years or so.
Who cares about the resolution. I care about the A.I. Don't gimp that.
If you dont want to be locked in at resolutions... just buy the pc version when it comes out. Will look and play better at 120 fps at 4k resolutions lol
Yeah. I am first and foremost a competitive PC gamer and I do of course play the odd RPG here and there. Thankfully PC will always be top :D
pc guys are lucky companies like Apple doesn't really care about pc gaming or they will pull similar stunt. imagine parity between pc and mac version. that would be tits!
actually apple has been all for trying to make people want to play games on their platforms. They have the graphics cards now. But even apple computers can choose what gpu u have. Consoles cannot.. thats why u cant compare apple vs pc. Plus no developer wants to port their game to apple. Apple is just lame. Locked down just like their phone. Its why windows os came out on top in the os battle.. its why everyone owns windows.
No this won't end console wars. It's certainly not the first time devs went for parity on competing systems. The difference is they were just unusually honest about it this time.
Before parity was generally not quite so announced. That's a huge drop in resolution...at least numbers wise, I personally wouldn't notice much difference when actually playing a game.
Uhh all I'm saying is that if they decided to gimp the full hd then the ai better be comparable to shadow of mordor.. actually it better remember everything
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No denying, that what Ubisoft did and the explanation was absolutely horrible, but why are people assuming MS paid them to do this just because they have a marketing deal. Sony had the same deal for watchdogs and yet they were not able to hit 1080p on either consoles and that was a cross gen game. This seems more to do parity and the lazy optimisation by ubi. Working on a game for over 4 years in sure they could of got 1089p 60fps on ps4 and 900p or more and 60fps and Xbox one if they put inmore effort.
I think if developers would just make games and not talk about res untill after a games release it would help. Several games look good at 900p plus the upscaling these consoles do are the best there is. I love my ps4 but this pairity thing doesn't bother me as much as it does other people. Just make a good game that's engaging and fun and I will be happy.
Ill pick it up used sometime. I always buy new from Ubi till now.
I always bought used from Ubi because 4 to 6 months from its release this game will be $24.99 at my local Gamestop. Its like clockwork.
Yeah your dead on about that. I just really liked ubi games and felt I got my money's worth and supported the dev. But I do believe this is parity for money. So, ubi, you are about to go on the used only list , the same list MS is on.
I'd wait for the inevitable 3 game bundle pack in 2-3 years which would include all the DLC. They run $20. Just like MSBAUSTX says...it's like clockwork.
The people doing the most bitching and moaning about this have probably casually played, never played or won't play another AC game such as myself. People love to bitch and moan about something so this is the hot topic of the day to bitch about.
Isn't that an image of Battlefield 4?
Its just amazing to me how the gaming community think they know everything. I mean the amount of quotes taken out of context and overreacted on just absurd. The way the quote was said by ubisoft at no point did it say "Hey we could have hit 1080p 60fps on PS4 but we said NAHHHH we didnt want to upset microsoft". Eventually people will see that PS4, although slightly better in power, is not lightyears ahead of Xbox One. And yes i own them all including a Gaming computer and seriously complaining over resolution size before YOU EVEN PLAY THE GAME is just pathetic....everyone complaining is PATHETIC. You are complaining about a video games RESOLUTION and you dont even know if its a good game or not. I am a stickler for picture quality and you know what these resolution differences, although slightly noticeable, are not worth the extra headache you are causing these developers. When i played the Destiny Beta i played on both PS4 and Xbone. I didnt play much for PS4 since majority of friends were on Xbone, but during the beta i played a ton of the xbone beta at i think it was like 720p or something. When the retail version came out for Xbone i bought it and it wasnt till a week later i realized wow they patched this for 1080p and i didnt even notice. Unless we are talking 4k or 30fps compared to 60fps its stupid and barely noticeable
As an XB1 owner, not a fanboy, I think they should make the best version they can for each system. I love Playstation and Xbox. As a personal preference I like Microsoft's exclusives just a little better than Sony. The only reason is because my Xbox and 360 were gifts when I first got them so I naturally played them instead of Sony products. Now I did own a PS2 and a PS3 later on. I own a PS4 now as well. There are two different types of people who purchase consoles for themselves. The first one is only concerned about power and specs and wants all games to look their best. The other cares about what exclusives are coming to each console and wants to play their favorite franchises, regardless of the missing 180p resolution. I am the later of these two. I prefer Nintendo exclusives by far, but I want to play COD and other third party games as well so I own a different system to play them. If I pay $400 or $500 for a console AND THEN $60 for a game for that console I would expect the developer to do their due diligence to make sure I am getting my moneys worth out of the experience. I understand that Ubi wants to end the bickering between all of us, but if either XB1 or PS4 can run it better then give that to the owners of that console! Again I like my XB1 and PS4 and Wii U. I bought them so I could enjoy the exclusives that each company brings because they are all good to me and I do not want to miss them. But in the end it isnt right to gimp a game because you dont want people arguing about the consoles they are on. Ubisoft isnt the god dang console police and has no right to tell anyone how they should live their lives. They especially dont have that right after Watch Dogs and the way Nintendo has been treated. I do not believe anyone should say that one is better than the other. All three next gen systems do different things amd will have different exclusives. Developers should make their games as good as humanly possible for each platform and call it a day. Let us decide which is better. Anyway thats my 2 cents.
From a brand perspective the decision makes sense. Treat all devices equally so that the experience is exactly the same on each device. Also, from a publisher perspective this makes sense. They probably don't want to see either XB1 or PS4 dominate, so building the version the same on both consoles does not tip the scale either way. From an Sony PS4 owner perspective it does not make sense. "We have the power, let's use it"... From an XB1 owner perspective it does make sense because "why should I have a lesser version". In the end, Ubisoft made a choice no matter what the reasoning, I think it is good for the brand to look and play the same on every device it runs on. Personally, when I play any game on multiple platforms I expect the same experience. When it is different it disappoints me.
It aint no console war ...just two big companys making money with us...
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