Nintendo is a very influential company that has done a lot for the games industry. However, in a desire to be distinct from its competitors it's also hurting its products and services in the long run.
I just wish Nintendo would at least LOOK at what others are doing in the online space.
They definitely need to add cross-game chat and a better message system, i would also like for them to add online play for their current/upcoming games aka Pikmin 3, NSMBU, 3D World ect.
Online play for the games you listed would be very cool. Unfortunately that doesn't effect game play as much so it isn't a priority. The video chat could be used for this though. I am a fan of cell phones though and not using bandwidth to talk to people.
And so far, it hasn't lacked too much in quality. Any issues I've had with their systems have been so minor that they haven't impacted the fun I've had with the games. Not even the lack of in-game chat, which is easily solved by firing up a chat program on my nearby laptop, has bothered me overmuch, since public lobbies suck and I'd much rather chat with friends that I know aren't going to be the kind of immature dirt-bags I find elsewhere, anyways. Nintendo still has a few things they need to do as far as online, though. You'll never hear me call Nintendo flawless. But seriously? They aren't so far behind that their consoles aren't enjoyable, and there are WAAAAAYYYYYY too many hate articles about Nintendo in the past couple of years. We need to quit listening to the spoiled and entitled haters that keep blowing up every small issue into something monumental, and to start giving the games on their consoles the kind of attention and credit that they deserve.
Right. Nintendo is definitely not perfect, and there are still a few features I'd like to see them implement. But for every feature Wii U or 3DS is missing, there's a feature present that other consoles are missing. Miiverse is probably the greatest console innovation of the last decade, but nobody gives them credit for that, or complains that even Nintendo has such a feature, yet Sony and MS do not. Backwards compatibility should be a standard across the board, but I never hear anyone complain about the lack of quality on other consoles for not having such a feature. Multiple controller options (dual screen, motion, classic) should also be a standard across the board, and that's something Nintendo does very well. Play how YOU like to play. And it gives a broad spectrum of tools for developers to make any type of game they wish. Pikmin 3 is a great example, only made possible by multiple controller options. Again, Nintendo is not perfect. But, all the focus seems to fall on What Nintendo doesn't have compared to rival consoles, yet no focus whatsoever is given to what rival consoles do not have compared to Nintendo. And these are some pretty important features too! No online social gaming site integration? In 2014? That's a pretty glaring omission IMO. So it's tit for tat really. I can't use party chat on Wii U, thankfully for me I don't play online much at all, and when I do (Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate) the game itself provides voice chat. What I CAN do, however, is post comments and pics on Miiverse, and that to me is worth more than party chat. In an ideal world Nintendo would have both features, and in an ideal world Sony and MS would have both features, but we don't live in an ideal world. And in the end all that stuff is just fluff anyways. It's the games that matter. I refuse to pay subscription fees for online, so I have no party chat on my PS4 or X1 either. And I could sit here and complain about how they charge all day long, but in the end I really don't care. I just want to play the games...
What's this? An objective look at Nintendo's online presence that points out good and bad things? Who knew that Nintendo fans could be sensible creatures? :O lol In all seriousness I love my Wii U despite its shortcomings and it makes a great companion to my PS4. I don't care what anyone says I think this will be a great generation for everyone involved. :)
i dont think nintendo are motivated purely by being different. i think they are now heavily motivated by creating hardware and software that is low cost while producing maximum profit. this is reflected by practically all their consoles the last two generations or so. being different doesnt have to mean using old tech or releasing mini-games and party games. but this is the route nintendo has gone. its obviously not about being different, its about spending as little as they can on production costs, while charging as much as they can for the end product. the end result is, even their AAA games will have small budgets (in comparison to AAA games on their competitors consoles,) so yes, we might get a quality game, but they get to produce it at a massive saving. but not all the games are of that quality, as the mini games and party games prove. not only that, but the console suffers because third parties cant port their current games to it because its obsolete tech. nintendo really need a new business model, because this one completely sucks, the only real winners are nintendo!
That's not entirely true. Wii U can handle any PS3 or 360 port, yet it's not getting them regardless of that fact. Power isn't preventing anything. The fact western AAA games don't sell to the fanbase is the real reason. And all the power in the world won't change that fact. I'm with you when it comes to the mini games. But I do have some good news. Miamoto recently stated in an interview that Nintendo is done with the mini games, with the casual-oriented games, and the like. He said they're done chasing that segment of the market, and from here on out Nintendo will be solely focusing on the core gamers. Now, that doesn't mean western AAA gamers. Nintendo will continue to offer an alternative product with alternative games to mainstream, but they will be games based on skill rather than casual luck. Mario Party has always been around and that franchise will continue to go strong, but as far as the Wii Fit U's and Wii Party U's, we won't be seeing anymore of them. And I really don't think the amount of money spent on a game is any concern to us. Least not to me anyways. When I buy a game all that I care about is A) is it fun B) do the graphics detract from the entertainment value. I don't think there's a game out there where the graphics are so bad that it makes me enjoy the game less. In fact, most Nintendo games look nearly as good as games on rival consoles (Yoshi's Wooly World vs Little Big Planet 3). Just because they're not spending $500 million on every game, doesn't mean the game won't look good or play well or be just as fun. The only time one needs to spend that much money is when focusing on realism, and none of Nintendo's games are realism-based. I just like playing fun games man... I own all three consoles and both handhelds because fun games are everywhere. But it seems most gamers look for reasons to dismiss entire catalogs. Like, "Wii U has no AAA games, THEREFORE it's not legit". I already own 2 perfectly good consoles with AAA games. I don't need a third. I'd much rather that third console have different games of its own. Which it does, and I'm glad. And they're every bit as fun as the games with $500 million budgets. In the end, I think gamers should just focus more on enjoying fun games rather than finding reasons to not enjoy them.
''Wii U can handle any PS3 or 360 port, yet it's not getting them regardless of that fact.'' the ps3/360 came out years ago. thats last generation. '' Power isn't preventing anything'' it is, because what you get is an inferior version. when you have competition putting out superior versions, thats bad news. what is motivating people to chose the wiiu version of a game over its counterparts? ''from here on out Nintendo will be solely focusing on the core gamers'' we heard that right from the get go with wiiu. we were told it was going to be for the core gamer and still nintendo put out BS games like nintendoland and wario game and watch. yes, we are starting to see some core games now, but its far to late. '' Just because they're not spending $500 million on every game, doesn't mean the game won't look good or play well or be just as fun.'' the production values suffer. if the competition are making AAA games with huge budgets, and you are making your games on quarter of the cost (and inferior tech), it will show. nintendo always used to be at the forefront when it came to investing in new cutting edge tech, but now they make games in a cooker cutter fashion. i mean, compare new super mario bros wiiu to rayman legends. production value wise, rayman is leagues ahead. i admit the yoshi game does look like a step in the right direction. it has style and flair. something NSMBU was totally void of. we all want to have fun, yes, but if i invest in the next gen, i want to see, hear, feel the benefit of that investment. nintendo cant keep relying on gimmicks in the place of technical leaps forward. remember how problematic it became for the wii during the last few years of last gen? it didnt have long enough legs... the ps3/360 had powerful tech allowing devs to push them for years and years before maxing them out, the wii just couldnt keep up. i fear the same will happen to wiiu. maybe its happening already since ports are being gimped.
Pcz really all of the consoles are last gen and super weak sauce. None of them can do full on 1080 at 60fps... I have tech in phones shooting for that on my desk right now. I'm mean none of them support 4k in any form what so ever yet phone do wtf! you really going to complain about weak hardware when the tech in the ps4 and xbone are from 2007? Really? Gddr5 my butt did they fix the hsa problem so it can actually be used oh and what are we going to do about complex branching code... I know let's make another fetch quest! The apu sucks and it's new. So now wireless displays with touch screens are old tech? Good game play is cheap? Tell that to the steady growing list of mediocre games that treat power as a gimmick. I hear bayo2, w101, smw3d, hyrule, even ninja gaiden was fixed... pik man and I'm sorry the game play in nintendo land will kick your ars. Those mini games are more engrossing than asscreed or titanfall or what ever fetch quest spawn camping game you can list. Please name one game you are playing right now on ps4 or xbone that you are not forcing yourself to play because you are bored. Maybe you should get a wiiu and stop believing in the hate. You are complaining about ports of mediocre games right now. There is literally nothing out that is must have after we got past the hype on ps4 and xbone. 3rd party is really stinking it up right now. You are starting to sound out of touch man. Do you own a game store are something? Oh and Nintendo gave us a hardcore system you just feel for the pr. I mean how much money have you wasted on the other consoles by now? None well good for you! Just remember the same guys milking you are the same ones using graphics to make you buy realistic fetch quest and shooters that require no skill. Story never really needed power... ask the ps2!
Production value suffers? Lol..no! Profit margins suffer with Inflated budgets..and so do overhyped games. Shin'en has a staff of how many? Super Mario 3D World sold in 3 days what shiny, 1080i KZ:Shadowfall managed in a month. Then they run out of gas on a subscription model where they are expected for "free"..
After reading the article, it seems to me that the author is trying to compare apples to oranges. Nintendo doesn't want to compete at the same level as MS and Sony, and it's part of what makes Nintendo something of an enigma. There are games on Nintendo that you simply can't get anywhere else and those games have more history and lore than anything Sony or MS can offer up in their own exclusives. Nintendo has already proven that graphics, online niceties, and 3rd party development take a backseat to fun. That's where Nintendo has everyone else stymied. Fun, plain and simple, is Nintendo's focus, and the other consoles, with their latest and greatest gimmicks, can't seem to come up with anything innovative. It's become a game of "they did it, so we have to do it better". I'm glad Nintendo is the odd bird out, and I hope they stay that way. It's gotten them by for 30 years, and I'm sure it'll get them by 30 more.
Like many, I’ve been playing Super Smash Bros. for 3DS over the weekend, and found that I needed to download the game’s latest patch in order to play online. Did anyone consider this patch was already planned so they could have the game ready to go on day 1? At least it wasn't a game breaking bug patch. Give Nintendo a lot of flak but at least the game wasn't delayed and they did before the game was released soooooooo he could have downloaded the patch at midnight.
it was for conquest mode not online
Honestly, there are no complaints about online features (or lack thereof) from me. There are times when I am just not in the mood for other people. Gaming fills all kinds of voids of being alone. When I socialize with even the most die hard gamer friends I have, gaming is just one of the thousands of subjects we talk about. Most of my online gaming is done on PC. I only play on PSN and XBL for trophies/achievements. Wii U's lackluster online infrastructure amounts to very little difference for me.
I agree. I have never been huge on the online interaction with complete strangers. A lot of the time it can detract from the game if you have to hear or play with complete jerks and morons. Nintendo's online model focuses on the games. If you want to talk about them afterwards, you have Miiverse. And I think this application is something that on non Nintendo gamers complain about. The millions that play on 3DS and the U have no problems with it because it keeps everyone in their place by not allowing negative or vulgar language when all we are trying to do is play games.
you could say not having local co op is behind the times. get a group of people, put them in a room and tell them they have to game together but can only pick one of the current gen consoles. what console will give them the most fun?
Ps4 or X1 most likely. Diablo 3 is the best couch co op right now. Plus my friends are adults with families that can't spend hours at a bros house but can play co op just fine online
If Nintendo were the exact replica of Sony/MS; then we'd have 3 dinosaurs going after one scrap of meat - and that sounds like it'll get boring really fast. No matter where you go - you're always going to have that one guy (or company) which has to be different. I'm that kind of person. My haircut is WAY different than most others in my school. Instead of a backpack or shoulder bag, I carry a suitcase to school. Most of the other students speak with a dialect (I'm from the Bahamas); while I speak the very same way I type. That's what make this world a little more interesting. Everyone is trying to fit in and out do each other, which is boring. It's good to see someone try to be different; and Nintendo has been doing that from since the get-go. None of the online features that the U is "missing" interests me. * Trophies/achievements are just there for bragging rights - they have no value whatsoever. They're just there to give you incentive to play the game more. * Party Chat is good...Unless you're surrounded by a legion of people with no lives, yelling and screaming obscene messages in your ear for no reason. Sorry, but, no thanks. * Downloading a patch only takes a minute or two. Is it so hard to put the controller down for less than 5 minutes? It's the same thing on PC, so what's the problem? ...I can go on and on with this. There's a reason why Nintendo still holds such standing power in the industry and why their IPs have literally stood the test of time. Sure, cash-grabs like AC and CoD have brought the quality-necessity bar down WAY low, but it's Nintendo's titles that still make a million sales almost instantly, and get the high review scores almost every time. Call me a Nintenbot or whatever. I really don't care. I'm just stating my opinion on the company; a company who's reputation is constantly being commented on by the double-standard individuals in this oh-so-sweet industry /s.
I don't have the link but all these news things that ms and Sony do better.... um mmmmmmm did they make your games better? The wiiu does downloading even when it is turned off. So that is a none issue. Really trophies? Are we dealing with the kids who all got trophies just for playing in the soccer game? In game chat has always been lame. How about ms and Sony make some game play we can all enjoy. Where is the sony kart game or their version of smash? What good are these features if the game sucks? Also just because you are use to collecting 5 hints in asscreed doesn't mean it would be fun to me. Also I thought people where buying these consoles for games? Miiverse is way more gamer centric. It also has one of the best communities. Twitch is a little lame why not you tube? 1 million videos means your channel is flooded with junk also. You guys sound like drug addicts asking for more drugs in your cereal. Just because you like it along with others doesn't mean it is good.
they will get it nx gen... This gen i dont see it happening with the online play
nintendo fanboys make excuses for the wiiu make they hype a game and it fails to sell they make excuses and damage control, plus primitive to no online abilities to no party chat or no blueray playback or share button abilities,slower interface too power isnt the only thing the wiiu is lacking
So paying for online is your answer? Lol winning.. not. I doubt you have any friends to party chat with anyway. I hate to break this to you troll, but if its graphics you want.. get a PC if you can work out how to use it! Otherwise quit trolling Nintendo.
and Sony fanboys hype everything that make it to ps4 even when it a terrible game. Blu-ray playback uh maybe because it doesn't have a blu-ray player. Nintendo doesn't want to pay fees to it. Wii U controllers(game pad and pro controller) share the same buttons but the triggers. The interface is fast. You must not own one. You are lacking the ability to try things out before you judge. Always going after something you don't like because it make feel better. Is such sad thing to waste your time.
Don't worry about this sad troll. All he does is troll PC, X1 and Nintendo since he's stuck with the one lousy console he's grandma bought him and no games to play.
It is funny how people want to bash Nintendo for not putting a ton of the same features in their console that Microsoft is getting bashed for having too many of in their new console. People were quick to jump all over MS for the slightly less power it has than PS4 because they over invested in features like online content, playback and videos, cable tv and the Kinect. Nintendo went the route of modest online infrastructure so it can focus on the core playability and seemless controlls and visuals they want Nintendo games to have while keeping the system as affordable as they can. They constantly achieve 720P 60 FPS, or higher resolution even like in Mario Kart 8, while maintaining a completely free online community and allow back compatability and full compatability with past peripherals. What a stupid greedy thing to do (sarcasm). Anyone who complains about what Nintendo is doing either doesnt own a U or is just pissed that they would rather play their U than their super expensive PS4 or XB1.
Nintendo is getting there but they still have a ways to go.
man if Wii-U had an XBL online quality then i wouldve been bought one. The idea of being on cross game chat (party chat) would be so awesome. Imagine inviting the party to some good old mario kart lol
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