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Microsoft reveals staggering hand tracking tech utilizing Kinect 2

Microsoft are a company that spend ridiculous amounts on R&D. Microsoft Research are tasked with finding solutions to complex problems, and whether or not those solutions can be commercialised.

Digitizing hand gestures has been a holy grail of the tech industry ever since the futuristic interfacing tech was theorised in movies like Minority Report and The Matrix, but none have really hit that level of reliability such a system would need in order to replace the precision of touch, and furthermore the classic mouse.

Microsoft Research recently showed off their new Handpose algorithm, which enables gesture tracking fidelity far beyond anything I've seen so far.

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Ghost_of_Tsushima1140d ago

Looks very accurate. Probably not consumer ready being everyone in the video was wearing sunglasses for some reason.

LiamBoxPlay1140d ago

haha yeah i did notice that myself.

indyman771139d ago

"staggering" that they finally got it to do what the first one was 'hyped' by the marketing talk to do in the first place. But, people keep using that word, I don't think they know what that word means.

kneon1139d ago

Remember that kinect is not just a camera, it also projects infrared. It could be that they needed to pump up the intensity to the point that it could be damaging to the eyes, or they are using a frequency that could be harmful to the naked eye.

Foehammer1140d ago

Continuous improvement.

Everything on X1 just keeps getting better.

well done

ramiuk11140d ago

but cant be fully utilized because the consle cant run a high def game and use the tech.
which is a shame because amazing kinect things will only be possible on a pc.

donthate1140d ago

rami:

Technically a hig def game is 720p, so both the Xbox One and PS4 has enough horse power, but reality is that sacrificing resolution for increased immersion might be worth it.

the increase in resolution, doesn't make a huge difference in reality.

boing11140d ago

^depends on the size of your screen.

Septic1139d ago

Well its only a concept. I doubt we'll see this being implemented into our games soon.

But imagine a Naruto MMO where yo have to weave hand signs for various jutsus!

"NIMPO! Kage Xboxu no jitsu!"

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TheSaint1140d ago (Edited 1140d ago )

These things on Kinect always look better than they actually are. I know I'll get disagrees for this so one of you tell me when it has worked as good as first advertised?

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InTheLab1139d ago

I'm shocked you even have any disagrees. After the Milo and Kate scandal, your statement is 100% accurate. Even the recent xb1 reveal had a guy on stage with a clicker in his pocket faking the whole Kinect demo.

This looks cool but so did scanning something in the real world for kinect to digitize it.

Moe-Gunz1139d ago

Milo?

IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT

:(

HugoDrax1139d ago

"everyone in the video was wearing sunglasses for some reason."

Maybe it's PROJECT FORTALEZA? I'm so curious at seeing how that project will turn out.

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kassler1140d ago

The story of Kinect. Amazing tech that cannot be implemented into gaming, in a successful way.

Foehammer1140d ago

D4 says "Hello"...78 on meteoritic

Dance Central also says "Hello"

Remy_Chaos1140d ago

Didn't know those two games were self aware and could speak...

calis1140d ago

"D4 says "Hello"...78 on meteoritic

Dance Central also says "Hello"

Lol wow...you sure put people in their spots with those two high quality games.

EZMickey1140d ago

That's a good point. Never played D4, but Dance Central is a huge seller. I also think The Gunstringer is quite underrated.

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Kivespussi1140d ago

It can be implemented, the problem is it isn't. You could do a lot with Kinect but the devs are afraid to try new things.

boing11139d ago

Because new things rarely sell well.

mcstorm1139d ago

Kivespussi your spot on. Kinect had some good and very well working games. Kinect sports, joyride, Kinectimals, dance central, just dance, forza horizon/forza 4, Fable, FIFA and Steel battalion (but you did have to have the right setup for it to work)

With Kinect 2 we have seen some improvements in games like horizon 2, forza 5, Kinect sport rivals dance central D4, FIFA and NHL.

The biggest issue with Kinect is as you say the developers adding it to there games and with a lot of games being multi platform they just get tagged on where the exclusives is where they tend to stand out as the game is made with Kinect in mind.

For me the best part about the new Kinect is the voice commands it has really changed the way I use my TV/media system but as for gaming its only as good as the developers make it.

There is no doubt though that Kinect as a peace of technology is capable of doing some amazing things.

rainslacker1138d ago

It's actually kind of hard to pull off complicated game play mechanics with motion control. Mostly because it requires too much physical activity on the users part, not for the inability of the motion controllers to be able to handle it.

Motion controls in general aren't inherently bad, but even motion intensive games tend to have short duration where you are actually playing. Anything more and the player just stops playing due to fatigue.

This is more why there isn't a ton of innovation in the MC market, and most controls are spent on simple gestures hopefully spaced out enough to keep the player from getting tired.

Outthink_The_Room1140d ago (Edited 1140d ago )

It's even more sad if you think about it this way.

If this tech video is really as accurate as it appears to be, developers of almost any size could actually use a multiple setup of Kinects for Motion Capture...

....in a game that won't actually use Kinect.

poppinslops1140d ago

You can already do motion-capture with a single Kinect...
Project Spark lets you create animations for your characters (as well as dialogue and sound-effects).

Outthink_The_Room1139d ago

@poppin

Yes, but not to the extent which was shown. Basic animations are done, including moving your mouth with some facial reactions, which is cool.

Though, this demonstrates a significantly higher capture for the hands than Project Spark.

Markerless MoCap is very much on the rise in terms of smaller studios. If this hand tracking accuracy could be applied to full body and facial capture, it's a different story and I'd be inclined to agree.

But as of now, I don't see this working outside the realm of offline workflows.

Bigpappy1140d ago

What is even more amazing, is the ability of people on this site and the internet in general, to accurately predict wow and where these features will be used even before M$.

There is definitely a problem with people not willing to wait for accurate information. They prefer to fill in the blanks and submit their predictions as facts.

2cents1139d ago

How very true.

And then suspect gaming sites run rumour based articles on it that then gets the whole internet in a tizzy which then just explodes into an all out fanboy war in the comments section.

By the time MS then come out with an official statement, everyone somehow seems to think that all the rumours were actually released by MS and now they are just liars. lol.

On topic: the tracking does look impressive, as well as the speed. Could be good for navigating the dashboard, minority report style :)

Pleeeease MS, incorporate this into the xbox one user interface!

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n4gamingm1140d ago

Kinect+vr would be awesome.

Outthink_The_Room1140d ago

I agree, to an extent.

Personally I think VR will be rather niche. To then throw on top of that, Kinect functionality, will make it even more niche.

It's a tough sell, especially from a developer/publisher standpoint. Install base for both devices means you have an even smaller potential market.

Shoe-horning Kinect+VR onto existing games would be kind of garbage. To really see some cool and unique ideas would mean it has to be somewhat exclusive. And again, therein lies the problem.

EZMickey1140d ago

This kinda presupposes that there will never be a Kinect+VR product sold as a single experience.

wannabe gamer1139d ago

this already exists and its called head tracking. its been around for awhile

TheNew11140d ago (Edited 1140d ago )

Wait, is this like a future update for the current kinect?

poppinslops1140d ago

Potentially...

The software was running on a PC and will likely be integrated into Windows 10...
I'd imagine Kinect will eventually be updated in the same way the Xbox is with DX12.

Fishy Fingers1140d ago (Edited 1140d ago )

The aviators are essential.

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