Media Create published the latest hardware sales from Japan.
god, those console numbers are abysmal. about 1k people bought an xbox one. in the entirety of japan, that's just pitiful. and its not even xbox, the best ps4 can do for a week is 8k? what is wrong with this country. just pathetic numbers all around.
The consoles just need better games that are tailored to the Japanese audience. When that happens, people who are waiting will buy them.
so you're saying they're smarter then us and dont just blindly buy consoles without any killer software support?
@Quicktim3 No he's saying the games released thus far have been for the west for most part (even if there isn't a single standout title among them yet). Japan has had few AAA Japanese games come to these consoles outside of Nintendo exclusives (in the PS4's case most of which were also on the PS3). So Japan sales won't go up until we see the big sellers launch there like Final Fantasy, Smash Bros. Wii U, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, etc... If Destiny boosted the PS4 numbers up from 8k -> 30k in Japan, then those numbers are going to be even higher when the real Japanese PS4 games start coming out. And the same thing for Wii U when Smash comes out. XBO is just going to have a hard time in Japan regardless, just like every other gen. The Japanese console market is shrinking a bit, but it's never been as huge as people think. There was always a console monopoly in JP starting with NES, then SNES, then PSO, then PS2, and last gen it was split between Wii and PS3 (with the Wii edging out the PS3). Total sales in JP has always been in the 20m - 30m range for all consoles combined. Meanwhile several handhelds have sold those numbers alone. Japan has a population of 130 million people, and consoles sell a combined 30m tops, that's still nearly 25% of the population that are console gamers, which is a big percentage.
@Tim I'm really getting sick and tired of your xenophobia. Why can't you just accept that the Japanese have a different taste in games than westerners? Seriously it isn't about a certain race of people being superior to the other its all about culture and the differences in tastes that it produces. I'm really getting tired of all the racist comments towards the Japanese that I'm reading on N4G.
@quick...home console sales have not been doing good there for a while now. Portable and mobile gaming has been gaining in popularity (especially mobile games). Its just the changing market conditions. In other parts of the world, console gaming is more popular than portable/mobile. Its okay that there are differences based on territory and culture. there is no rule that says if its popular in one place then it MUST be popular everywhere else.
You don't need a PS4 to make a pretty JRPG. It's not a graphically demanding genre.
It's not necessarily about what's "wrong" with the country, it's about the Japanese lifestyle. Lots of jobs are 12-18 hour work days, a lot of travel is done on trains, housing space is small and being social and an out and about person are big things in the country. There's not much time to spend at home playing games on a console, and it's especially hard with the costs associated with console gaming. For them it's much easier on the wallet and the lifestyle to game on mobile devices, especially phones. In short... It's cultural, plain and simple.
They used to play the CRAP out of consoles! Did the country get smaller and the working hours longer in just the last few years?
People in the US used to play the crap out of arcade games until consoles brought that experience to the home. Things change, and phones in Japan have changed how people there play. I don't like it either, I wish arcades were big here again and consoles were hot in Japan, but it's just not like that. Hopefully creepy VR school games will help move some console though, maybe start turning things around :P
I think it's that the types of games they play don't REQUIRE the power of these new consoles. They were barely pushing the last gen's capabilities.
maybe it's because those consoles don't have any worthwhile games yet
There's nothing wrong with Japan. They prefer mobile gaming. That's nothing to be ashamed of.
its a cultural thing. They aren't obsessed so much with the latest and greatest technology (surprisingly) as they are with finding a larger selection of titles that appeal to them. To a Japanese person the ps3 might be more appealing than the ps4 for example because it has tons of quality software - even if its not the latest craze. They are a proud and loyal country too which is probably an additional reason why they give Nintendo a lot of love and don't seem to be pushing too hard to get the ps4 in China (turns out they don't get along).
I noticed the Wii U coming up over the PS4 this week, so perhaps those abysmal hardware numbers have more to do with good software - which at the moment Wii U has more and more of.
Thats definitely why the PS4 isnt doing great there. The wii u has actually heen ahead of it mostve this year, but only by like 1k each week.
-Wii U, I don't know what's going on there. Honestly I don't follow Wii U trends. Smash will help? Doesn't the wii u already have a 2m install base in Japan. -PS3 is at the tail end of its lifecycle after selling 10m units in Japan(still the go to console for 3rd party Japanese console games) -PS4 is going to sell alongside the PS3 for awhile. Not many 3rd party games will be Ps4 exclusive, until that user base starts to switch over. We should see a difference in this years average come Q1 next year. When Bloodborne, and other 3rd party Japanese games drop albeit on ps3 as well. -Japan doesn't know what an Xbox is.
Handheld gaming is the fad in Japan right now.
I think Japan is just done with consoles. Their almost a completely casual market now.
I think you're absolutely correct. Japan no longer matters in the console market, they've moved on to cheap mobile games instead. Pretty sad.
Are you painting 3DS and Vita in the same broad stroke schiller? And yes, I do mention these handhelds in that exact order..
Time to focus on China as an untapped market consoles will do better there ;)
Say that again after the New 3DS & New 3DS XL & Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate release next week. Those numbers will be off the chartz. You're right in one sense. Home consoles are weakening in Japan. But handheld consoles like 3DS & Vita will continue to sell well. The movement is toward gaming on the go, that includes handheld consoles. Super Smash Bros. for 3DS is #1 on Amazon's best sellers list at the moment. I expect to see a boom for the 3DS in the US, as well.
Yeah, ignore handheld sales entirely, especially those of the 3DS. Or are you saying those are casual, too?
PS3 outselling XB1 almost 6 to 1! That isnt good. Wii U went up thats good. Vita and 3DS are tearing it up though.
it's nothing really... MS have a history of selling poorly in Japan, not sure why people think the X1 would be different
Not necessarily think it would as much as I was hoping it would. Hate to see any of the big three doing poorly. Perhaps MS should make a decent handheld and start porting orriginal Xbox games and 360 ganes to it the way Sony is with Vita. It might sell better.
LOL. XB is always outsold in Japan by PS by that margin or higher. That's like saying that Vita isn't doing good against 3DS in North America where it is being outsold 10:1 on most weeks... Just because there is a high ratio competitively doesn't mean it is bad... The big indicator is how it does longer term. Are the numbers going up or dropping after 6 months in the market? Right now XB numbers look pretty good to me... All the launch titles were from the past year really. So we are seeing a console with games out for a year being launched against 2 consoles in their home court and with home court loyal fans... Looking at it that way, the sales aren't bad at all.
My point was that it is PS3! An old and now pretty much replaced system yet it continue to sell better than XB and almost as good as its replacement. An 8 year old system should not be outselling a new one.
Damn..Not even the Vita TV is selling. triple figure sales are shocking. Thought for sure that was going to become a popular device in japan. Basically, if it aint a 3DS, they are not really interested.
the games they like are more appealing for them on the 3ds, its not the Vita TV fault
@Gemmol "the games they like are more appealing for them on the 3ds" Well, there are some PSV titles in the top ten too...I just thought a small, cheap console with access to the PSV and playstation libraries via PSnow, is something they would have jumped at.
many people thought that xbox one will do well in japan because it was sold out at some retailers before launch "But But But, why is Microsoft wasting their time with Japan. 4 of the top 5 are XB1, and I understand it is probably the daily charts, but the fact still remains, XB1 shot up and is getting some preorders. This might be the gen XBOX finally makes headway in Japan. If they cut that 9:1 ps3:360 ratio to 3:1 that is a drastic improvement for one console generation. Now they just have to keep releasing diverse software like Scalebound and Phantom Dust, mixed in with smaller titles and sequels to Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey. " http://n4g.com/news/1536245...
Sad sales figures all round when they have some of the best game developers in the world.
This will be the last generation of consoles in japan.They are more of a handheld and tablet market.The console market is dead there.I was surprised that any of them launched in japan this gen.Also japan doesnt matter in the console market anymore.China will be the market to replace japan and the XOne just had a huge launch there
You know its dead there because ps4 was launched in the USA first that was a statement. PlayStation 4 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from PS4) "15 November 2013 Canada, United States 29 November 2013 Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Denmark, Ecuador, El Salvador, Finland, France, Germany, Guatemala, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Panama, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom 13 December 2013 Bahrain, Bolivia, Czech Republic, Greece, Hungary, Kuwait, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Qatar, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia, South Africa, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Uruguay 17 December 2013 Hong Kong SAR, Macau SAR, South Korea 18 December 2013 Taiwan 19 December 2013 Singapore 20 December 2013 Malaysia 6 January 2014 India 9 January 2014 Indonesia 14 January 2014 Thailand, Philippines 22 February 2014 Japan"
Perhaps the Japanese gamers are still waiting for more compelling games before purchasing a home console, or maybe it is a shift towards handheld/mobile gaming brought on by a more casual and convenient approach to gaming? Some of the best game developers and studios are from Japan and I would not want to see them go out of business but they may have to adapt to produce only mobile/handheld titles, or develop for Western markets or perhaps the Asian/Chinese market if their own market is not profitable.
That is how they are. The wait unlike western market where they buy them months before a game they want even releases
So where are the people who disagreed with me last week for saying 2 day launch is typical first week in regards with B2?
This is why Americans should support xbox just like japan supports Nintendo and Sony.
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