We’re only a couple of weeks away from Sony’s launch of PlayStation TV in North America. Will this console in disguise be as successful as Sony is hoping for? We take a look at the device and give you the lowdown on what to expect with it.
Regardless of what others think about this thing, I am getting it for one feature and one feature alone. This will replace my remote play gaming on my Vita. Now I can play my PS4 on my bedroom TV and not have to have my hands cramp up and fall asleep on me trying to play a few hours of destiny. Super excited, it's like owning a second PS4.
@Neonridr Completely agree. It would be nice if it supported full 1080p @ 60fps, but I'm willing to settle. I think PSTV could be huge if they marketed it like that, but I haven't seen any advertisement for the thing at all (not that I watch too much TV, but I haven't seen any online ads, youtube ads, or store ads with it). Their campaign needs to be: $99 Remote Play, almost gives you a Secondary PS4 in you home PlayStation Vita support PS Now support Plays PSP games PSOne games Apps and more.... For that price it's a great deal, now just add a patch to support DualShock 4.
@ABizzel1 - it has been confirmed that the PS TV will support both the DS3 and DS4. Yeah, only having 720p will suck, but like you said, I am willing to settle since it won't be the TV I game with all the time on. And besides, it's still an upgrade over the Vita Screen.
Meh. It would help if you could burn original versions of PS1 games onto a PS4 HDD. not that that will ever happen.
DualShock 4 works with PSTV if you're using remote play.
Then it's already complete, now it's time to start allowing that touchpad to work in Vita games for more compatibility.
@SoapShoes - oh ok, thanks for clearing that up. Well since I am using it mainly for the Remote Play feature, then I should be all set. I wonder how I navigate the menus and stuff prior to using the Remote Play then.
I'm not getting it for remote play, im getting it to play vita games (as well as psp ones) on a tv. Up to this point i am using a PSP Go with a spare sixaxis hooked to a TV to play psp games. But when the Vita was first announced i thought sony would keep that tradition they introduced with the PSP 2000 series (tv out) but they didnt. But now this looks to fill that piece of 'my' puzzle.
No more boring hotel nights away on work. Pop this in my pocket and I have my PS4 with me wherever I stay! Can't arrive soon enough. :^)
@ricochetmg LOL now we will start to see comparison of multiplats for Xbone version vs PS4 remote play version on PSTV! Xbone version will have a chance to win this time around! http://cdn.meme.am/instance... I kid
Honestly it is a bit strange that it is restricted to 720p even over LAN. Steam home streaming supports 4k over a home network so the bandwidth and latency are obviously sufficient. That is without any specially dedicated streaming hardware. The PS4 does have streaming hardware, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if they up it to 1080p60 streaming at a later date. Otherwise you could always just get another ps4 I suppose, they're quite cheap now and the price is only going to go in one direction.
Add DLNA and we have a winner!
Yeah. This is essentially a better way to expand your PS4 in your house rather than having to buy two of them. But, I wonder if it might not also be another way for developers to get back into developing games for the PS Vita?
The screen formats are not the same. Controls for the Vita and DS are not the same either. PSTV will get more indie support, not Vita support unless you think the two are the same. If anything PSTV will hurt Vita sales since people will use it for remote play instead of a Vita. PSTV is a trojan horse for PSNow more than anything. It's a way to play PS3 and even PS4 games without the need to buy a console according to Sony. It will be interesting to see how many casual gamers jump on the device and skip consoles all together.
It can't hurt Vita at all Death. If PS Vita and PS TV are selling it only adds to the numbers developers can reach by developing for the Vita. In essence it expands the Vita to places Sony couldn't get with just a handheld. It makes it a more lucrative business for devs selling both.
***The screen formats are not the same. Controls for the Vita and DS are not the same either. *** Doesn't matter considering those can be handled during developement of new games. That's how they do it with development of all other cross-platform games as it is. The fact is, if enough people buy PS TVs, then there will be developers wanting to sell games to that market.
Also Death you can't play PS4 games on PSTV without a PS4. Sony isn't claiming it has access to PS4 games, it's claiming you can stream them from your PS4. PS4 access on PSNow isn't something that will launch with the system or even in their plans for the short-term future.
@Soap, That is 100% incorrect. You do not need a PS4 to access PS4 games over PSNow. The work is being done remotely on servers. What you see requires no computation, just the ability to input commands and stream the content to your tv. Why do you think the Dual Shock 4 is being supported with the PSTV? With Gaikai servers or any "cloud" based servers that offer streaming, the device you access it with can be anything from a smart phone or tablet all the way to a new console or PC.
PSNow is only supporting PS3 games at launch, what is so hard to understand about that? So at launch and well after its launch it won't have access to PS4 games without a PS4 system. Why do you think Sony is only advertising PS3 games through PSNow?
I'm getting it for remote play and to play awesome PSP games like Medievil Ressurrection, Ape Escape On the Loose, and Pursuit Force on my TV. Also great PS Vita games like Killzone Mercenary.
Aye the remote play on this thing is just too good, anyone with a ps4 and a spare tv needs to have this thing.
''Owning a second ps4'' Except your second ps4 will not look as good or play as good. Remote play is a great idea. But the delay lag is killing it.
I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's a nice alternative if you wanted to do a little bit of Destiny farming in bed or something..
Cant help but feel Sony are cutting off there nose with a product that replaces someone buying another PS4...
720p for PS Vita games is more than enough like one enjoys his/her PS3 or Wii U 1080i for PS4, Netflix, Hulu is also good enough
will it show PS4 games via Remote Play at 1080i? I thought it was capped at 720p.
I'm pretty excited for it, honestly. :) I hate dragging my PS4 around the house all the time. This will be a great little player for Netflix, Hulu, and other things, too.
I think this has great potential and the only thing that could keep it from taking off is Sony's marketing. If they pushed this even half as hard as they did PS4 or even Destiny they would be alright.
This 1000x If they want to make a great PS4 bundle then do PS4 + PSTV for $499. Basically 2 PS4's in the house + a Vita.
That would be an incredible move and very savvy might I add.
If the device was made to simply extend the PS4's range of uses it would be a nice bundle. Hardcore gamers think the $99 box is geared towards them. It's geared more towards the casual gamers that can justify renting a game for $4.99 for the weekend instead of buying a $400 console and $60 game. Sony makes money on content, not streaming the PS4 games you already own to another tv.
@Death Remote Play is just a bonus feature, that many PS4 owners would be able to take advantage of. At the end of the day it's still a fully function PS Vita, so even as a standalone product it has value. Add in Remote Play in it's best form (thanks to a complete controller), PS Vita games, PSNow (if it ever becomes a streaming service), PSP games, and PSOne games and it's worth the $99 asking price.
The device is not compatable for games that were trully made for the Vita. Not many games were actually made that use the Vita's functions so the amount of incompatable games is relatively small. It's highly unlikely devs will give the Vita a second look if PSTV takes off since compatability will always be an issue. So no, it is not a fully functional Vita. PSNow already is a streaming service. There is no subscription model yet since a blanket subscription that was still profitable would be very expensive. Sony's plan is to make money with streaming, not lose it. As for PSTV being worth $100, that is completely up to the people buying it. It's not worth it to me, but I don't own a PS4 yet to use the remote play. Even when I do get a PS4, remote play isn't something I need or find appealing. If you don't have the luxury of owning multiple tv's or PS4's then I totally get it, but that isn't what Sony is looking to do since content sales is what they are after.
the luxury of owning multiple PS4's? Can't imagine there are a lot of us gamers that have multiples of the same consoles in their household.
@Death I'm sure you'll be able to find something to play http://blog.us.playstation....
That would be a great bundle. :)
definitely on my list. Too much competition for the main TV that has the PS4, so it will be nice to be able to use it in the bedroom.
couldn't agree more. It's TV season and I have a 2.5 year old.
I have a feeling, that this will do better than expected...
I certainly hope so. People seem to be excited about it. Unfortunately, everywhere this pops up on Facebook, people ask what it does. They don't even bother clicking the link. -_- So, Sony may have a battle with the majority of consumers here in the US. Remember... We bought the Pet Rock.
It's a terrible DOA product plagued with many questionable design choices. The bigger story is this, as Sony prepares to turn their gaming division into a gaming hub of streaming content, PSTV now has the potential to compete with the ps4, and negate the reason for owning one. Once the PS Now network starts streaming PS4 games from its severs, it would be silly to spend $400 for a PS4 when you can get this device for $99. This is the sort of questionable business practice you expect from a company about to lose another $2.35 Billion on failed products.
for one, PS Now doesn't support PS4 games, but even if it did publishers would make money from streamed PS4 games or sold local copies. So it would expand the PS4 base, not compete with it.
According to Sony they have plans of streaming PS4 games via PSNow. The games will not be 1080p, but casual gamers looking to play PS4 games for $99 most likely don't care. Publishers will indeed still make money renting/streaming the games which isn't the issue. Traditional game ownership will be going away as streaming becomes more common and issues caused by an always online model will persist. My night ended earlier last night than I planned as Destiny was shut down from DDOS attacks and I own the retail version. Streaming will be hit worse. PSNow is targeting casual gamers like the Wii did last gen. If the casual gamers jump on now it will hurt PS4 sales in the future. Sony is burning the candle at both ends.
I don't think streaming will replace traditional game ownership anytime soon. The infrastructure to support streaming everywhere just isn't there. Too many people don't have and don't have the option to get enough bandwidth, and will major providers making noises about bandwidth caps/throttling.. I just can't see it happening.
"PSTV now has the potential to compete with the ps4," EXACTLY! And for once Sony has a chance to not be playing catch up. The video game market is going to change. Just as the music and movie industries change with the introduction of MP3s and streaming video. MP3s destroyed CDs. Streaming video is killing DVDs and Blu-ray discs. Neither of the new formats offer a higher quality product, but they do offer a more convenient way to consume the content. PS Now (along with the PSTV) has the potential to be that disruptive force. It probably won't happen right away, but then the iPhone didn't kill Blackberry/Nokia right away either. But versions two and three will improve it and make it better. Sony would be more than happy to kill the PS4 business if it could replace it with something even more lucrative. They've never made their money on the hardware but rather on the software and services. If they can just nail down a good subscription plan for PS Now and bundle it all with a $99 console, they could change the entire industry. But it all has to start somewhere, and I think it starts with the PSTV.
"They've never made their money on the hardware but rather on the software and services" Really? You do know Sony are mainly a hardware company right? A company praised for the high quality of its hardware And no PSTV is not a competition for PS4 cause you need a PS4 to stream games via PSTV
Either way they make money if I rent a PS4 game that has been out a year they make their money especially if you do not plan on getting a PS4 people are not dumb if I want the latest PS4 games I will get a PS4 if I can wait 6 month to a year I will just settle with PSTV just like Netflix I can wait a year to see a season of a good show instead of getting cable to watch the shows as they come out but I cannot do that with my games lol I doubt they put Uncharted 4 on PSNow the day it drops in the stores it will probably drop 6 months to a year after it hit stores.
"Playstation tv sonys tiny trojan horse" it cannot be well said
It will bomb, to much of a crowded market.
crowded market of what? devices capable to remote play with the PS4 while capable of playing PSP, PS1 and selected Vita games? let me see what is also available for THAT market. 1. Vita 2. Xperia Z3 (starting November) 3. ... just 2 devices. and you call it "crowded"? this is like having a second PS4 that can do more than just play PS4 games. Sony just have to push it hard and make it clear to the masses that they have this amazing thing they gonna offer shortly for just $99! the only thing that can make this thing bombed is if Sony screw up the marketing for it and if THAT happens, it will be such a shame because PSTV is awesome! I know because I have it already since December last year!
A tiny Trojan from Japan, go figure...
The Playstation TV is gonna fail horribly just like it did in Japan. It will be a niche device with an even smaller market than the PS Vita. Like seriously Who is gonna buy this? People that play games on the big screen would prefer to play PS3 and PS4 games in HD instead of handheld games with worse graphics. Plus, the market is already saturated with streaming set top boxes that are often times much cheaper than the PS TV. The few people that do buy the PS TV will be the ones who want to play their PS4 in different rooms in their house, but honestly most people are just gonna move their PS4 to the room and save themselves 100 bucks.
They shouldn't have released it first in Japan. The gaming culture there has changed so much that a console like this doesn't stand a chance. They did it because TV streaming boxes hadn't taken off yet and they thought they could get a head start. But maybe there's a reason why those devices never took off. Maybe they don't sit in front of their TVs and consume content like the West does.
The school day is like 13 hours too, don't forget.
Actually it started off very well in Japan, it sold over 42000 in its debut week and was placed at the top of the Japanese chart http://gematsu.com/2013/11/... But again Sony's failure to advertise a product well brought it down I had to actually find out the features of the PSTV myself, Sony need to step up on advertising their hardware like this
Want to play P4 Golden on a big TV with a dualshock. Day one buy.
old school emulators would be a bonus
It'd be cool to case-mod this to resemble a tiny PSOne. Or, heck, a tiny version of the OG PS2.
Honestly a better living room piece than an XBONE, which is what they were trying to accomplish
I hope this also brings more high-quality titles to the Vita(same hardware), I'd assume it would if the sales are good..
I hope it does, but that ship has probably sailed. Even if the install base were raised it wouldn't dramatically increase Vita software sales. It could if Sony markets it well, but if not it will not help Vita.
sony has a cloud tv service coming up...im pretty sure that this thing is going to play a role for such a service along side PS4 and the vita.
A gaming console that can play games but at a lower resolution/frame rate than the PS4? Why not just call it the Xbox One?! /s
why would people want to spend extra to play PS4 game at 720p and 30fps?
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