Ubisoft Montreal has high ambitions for the future of the Watch Dogs franchise, a senior figure at the studio has said, and will tackle the first game's perceived flaws with a series of "radical" changes.
They better. Watch Dogs had MASSIVE potential when it was revealed, especially in the graphics department, but Ubisoft failed to deliver. Watch Dogs 2 better be superior.
Most disappointing next gen game yet, I think.
From a new IP perspective this generation has been full of disappointment... Watch Dogs (OK)... Knack (Pure Garbage)... Ryse (OK)... Destiny (OK)... Titanfall (OK)... All had great potential that they didn't fully realize their visions...
Knack was not pure garbage haha. It was entertaining, just not great.
@NeoGamer232 Why was knack pure garbage? have you even played it? Knack is a platformer like Crash and not everyone will like it, doesnt mean it was bad One of the main reasons for the memory increase on the PS4 was because the Knack dev asked for it. Particles forming and removing from Knack was processed in real time, and they were 100 hundreds of particles in one go which can be CPU intensive, its actually more of a next gen game than you think The game actually great graphics wise and gameplay wise fun and difficulty tasking, I understand people look at it as for more kiddies but that doesn't mean its pure garbage.
better than Destiny,others and especially basement crawl
i respectfully disagree, WD wasn't as good as the hype promised but was still a damn good game, very fun, cleaver, polished and clean a 8-8.9 game imo
I don't understand why people are so down on Knack. It was fun. I finished. Maybe it's not everybody's type of game, but that doesn't make it garbage.
I know hating Watch Dogs is the cool thing to do right now, but I just don't see it. I had a lot of fun with the game. The game had a lot of different activities and the stealth and shooting/combat aspects of it were the best I've ever experienced in an open world game. Being able to manipulate all kinds of objects in environment through hacking was also really cool to me. The graphics, while not a good as the very first demo, are still really good and it just makes me laugh when people try to act like they are bad or mediocre.
I think they should make Watch Dog 2 have a much more personal story, and no I don't mean the generic you killed my family member so I'm gonna kill you story, no I mean your character makes a sex tape and a hacker group acquires it and threatens to leak it online if you don't do as they say, so you have to do a bunch of missions for them to buy enough time to find out who they are and how to stop them.
I really hope they make a better PC Port next time, I can barely max the game out at 60fps (I have a pretty good computer)...
Yeah, I run it at 2048 x 1152 with 2x TXAA and I have to cap it at 30fps in order to get a solid, consistent framerate, so it will be nice if the next one makes more efficient use of the hardware. I was still able to enjoy it just fine and it looks great on my system, but it definitely could have been better optimized.
Scrapping the IP would be ambitious and welcomed by most! It's a dead end!
Am I the only one here that wishes they'd just bury it and start on something new and more interesting? It's not like the game turned out as great as they hyped it up to be, so I don't really have much faith in their ability to improve upon it as-is... Besides, I think we have just about enough shooters these days. I'd rather see Ubisoft do an RPG. A really big action-style RPG.
I havnt played the game, is it that bad? I mean everyone likes to throw the words "we want new ip's" around a lot and its not like games are cheap to make to just scrap it. So i ask again was it THAT bad where ubi cant save it at all?
If you compare the sequels to the originals of most AAA franchises the original usually pails in comparison. Most people agree AC2 blows AC1 away problem is we gamers are spoiled, it takes more than one game usually to find what makes the franchise great. Except Halo talk about Hitting the first pitch of a game out of the park.
It's not that bad. But it does have issues. It takes a lot to launch a new AAA IP and it's not surprising that the first installment doesn't get everything right, as we see with WD and Destiny and possibly The Crew. Hopefully the Sequels of these series will get those things right.. if they don't it's time to abandon the series. if we scrapped WD now for a new IP, probably that new IP would also be plagued with these issues too.
Some elements of Watch Dogs were really good. The free running and gun play were spot on but absolutely everything else in the game missed the mark. I wouldn't be scrapping it as a franchise as there definitely is potential there. As Magnes said, it's all very reminiscent of AC. First game was way too over ambitious for a brand new ip but the second is up there with some of the best games of last gen imo. AC 1 & 2 were worlds apart and if Ubi could pull off the same level of improvement with Watch Dogs the next one could be great.
@uth11 exactly if this is the way we treat new IP's then maybe developers stop taking chances then I guess we can play all the established franchises till our eyes bleed
Everything you say is mostly smart. Don't start being stupid.
It's just my opinion, dude; I don't feel that Watch Dogs has much potential beyond what's been shown, and I'd rather see Ubisoft start up an action-RPG with a great storyline and interesting characters, instead. If Child of Light is any indication, they're not exactly unable to do good RPG's with interesting characters, and they could likely do major improvements in that field, too. We're already flooded with shooters as it is; people are going to be playing Destiny for a very long time, and a new CoD is due soon. Hence, I feel they'd be better off starting on a new project.
Well my plans for Watch Dogs went out the door when I saw the words "your item sold on Ebay".
This is a joke. There's no way then changing the game now will turn it around. So we are supposed to be happy with the feeling of being their guinea pigs? Release that trash and then say the next one will be better?! I have ZERO faith in that
Completely stupid comment. Watch Dogs was not trash. It has an 80 on metacritc, so let's not pretend the game is horrible nor assume that everyone shares your irrational and exaggerated hate for the game.
My comment isn't stupid lol. The WD hate is real. I'm not being irrational for expecting something much better than what was given, or for a expecting company to live up to their word, or for not wanting to take part in their "tests" and assume the future products will be better. There's no excuse for WD being worse than GTA5 in EVERY aspect for a sandbox title. You can praise them if you want to or say that WD was a good game, but I whole-heartedly disagree. "Don't believe everything you read on the internet". WD @80 on metacritic must be good. COD on PS4 is at 78 that must mean it's good too?! No, IMHO both those games are trash. I didn't ask you or anyone to share my opinion
Well you are very dramatic...
Really!!. They must try to learn no hype and cheat the gamers
Not getting sucked into that crap again
Please no more 900p 30fps(PS4), 792p(Xbone), or inconsistent framerates(PC)
How about update Watch Dogs for proper Graphics Cards use first Ubisoft ?
Ubisoft pls just shut the hell up and suprise everybody with a great game. Watch dogs was an overhyped disappointment
Come on guys this is ubisoft,cant believe anyone expected more from them??? All of there games that build up a hugh fanbase get the special homogenisation treatment,and have done since rainbow six lockdown. Every game made is just filler crap between AC games,i did like farcry 3 campaign though..but they have torn clancys name to shreds and taken a dump on it just for good measure!!!
Not this shit again Ubisoft....
I expect the sequel to be nothing short of amazing.This franchise has potential.Watch Dogs could seriously be the next big thing,I really hope Ubisoft sees it.
BETTER GRAPHICS, BETTER AND ENGAGING STORY, BETTER PROTAGONIST AND MOTIVES!
why not better physics, shooting feel, explosions, geez people forget about gameplay these days
Did I say that's all it needed? Did I? I only named few things it needs. So thank you for adding the other stuff about the gameplay. Geez people to conclusions right away -_-
Unless its free I don't care. Fool me once shame on you... fool me twice... you get the point. AC1 had the benefit of being something fresh and semi new, not to mention a 100% better story up until the last 10 minutes. Needless to say stop comparing it to a game you made and considering that good. You should have been better than AC1 not the same. Watchdogs was mediocre on all ends, from story, to gameplay, to graphics it was just bad to okay.
Watch Dogs mediocre ??? why are gamers so jaded these days
If you have to ask why we are jaded I don't think you understand what jaded means. considering jaded is a result of experiences... so that being said going along with what you are implying... Gamers are jaded because we have experienced too many good games so when a game like this gets released we are apathetic and unenthusiastic. Had we not had better games we wouldn't be jaded, but we have and those games make this game unexciting. Not too far off but you should have still known that if you are going to call people out.
No, getting jaded has to do with how you CHOOSE to react to things. Many gamers today have a very seriously mistaken sense of entitlement. They think everything must cater perfectly to exactly what they want or it's shit. There's no recognition that different people have different tastes, nor that no game is ever going to be able to satisfy all tastes equally well. It's pure douchebaggery, because not only are you so completely self absorbed that you think that your perspective is the only right one, but you go around spreading your hate and negativity and show no respect for the fact that others don't have the same opinions about any given game. Guess what? There are lots of games that I personally don't like that many of you do like, but the difference is I almost never go around saying anything bad about those games. And the rare times I do it is more along the lines of constructive criticism. I don't exaggerate things and be overly negative. For the most part, though, I simply don't spend a lot of time talking about games I don't like. I mostly just ignore them. Some of the games you think are so exciting and that you think make Watch Dogs seem mediocre in comparison are probably games that I think are mediocre in comparison to Watch Dogs. People have different opinions. Don't state your opinions of games as if they were facts, especially if all you are doing is being negative and hateful.
@Starchild You can use it however you want but that doesn't change a word to what you want it to mean. jad·ed adjective \ˈjā-dəd\ : feeling or showing a lack of interest and excitement caused by having done or experienced too much of something. I never in anything said anyone had to feel about Watch Dogs like I do. You need to simmer down before you hurt yourself, take a step back and reread my post and you will find that my first post was directed at only the article and was complete opinion hence the phrase "...I don't care" The response to ape007 was for his lack of understanding that the word jaded is still a response to something whether its My feeling or anyone else its still caused by a response so I enlightened him on his INFERENCE by using the word. I didn't say that's how I feel personally I said "Not too far off."
I know what jaded means. But I still believe that we largely choose how we frame things in our minds. People who have an attitude of entitlement think the world owes them something and the default response to a game that doesn't live up to their inflated expectations of perfection is to become angry and hate on the game. The fact that people are so overly negative and emotional makes it very clear what's going on. It makes no sense to act that way. The game wasn't misrepresented. We knew exactly what the game would be offering (or as much as we know about any game before we buy it) for well over a year before it released. I watched previews and gameplay videos, and read reviews, and from that I made the decision to buy the game. It was pretty much exactly what I had gathered it would be. But even if I had decided that I didn't like it, I sure as hell wouldn't start complaining on random sites on the internet, or bash the game in every article related to it. If I really wanted to give constructive criticism I would write directly to the development studio and tell them my thoughts. Going into articles about a game that I know many people do like just to bash it and hate on it makes no sense to me. Especially if I am stating my opinion in an overly negative way and acting like my opinion of the game is a fact. That's just rude to my fellow gamers. For example, I thought Knack was a very boring and uninspired game, but I don't go into articles about Knack and start bashing the game. I know that some people did find something to like in Knack and I know my negativity isn't going to serve any purpose. It seems better to focus our time and energies on games we do like. I happen to agree with ape007 completely. Many gamers today, especially the younger ones, are jaded and overly negative. And these attitudes, I believe, are born out of an attitude of entitlement. A lot of these people have unrealistic expectations and they seem to think that the universe revolves around them. They honestly seem to expect every game to perfectly match their particular preferences and tastes, and if not, they feel justified to go on a hate rampage against the game instead of quietly moving on to games that do interest them.
@Starchild The only one being overly negative and emotional in this conversation is you. All I said is that they should have aimed higher than AC1 and coming on par with that is not good. I also only stated the game was mediocre. If you think that is so "negative" and "hateful" you should really be careful outside your carebear, candyland, nerf world. Not to mention your overuse of the word entitled makes you sound like a petulant child or a senile geezer (not sure which is worse). I paid for the game and I played the game, that gives me "just cause" (entitlement) to talk about my feelings on the game. I didn't say Ubisoft "OWES" me anything. I inferred that I wouldn't support another game that I would have to spend money on because I was disappointed with the results of Watch Dogs. You seem to be the one taking things way too personally.
Watch Dogs was indeed mediocre (IMO). I'd ask anyone who doesn't believe so to buy the re-release of GTAV when it comes out, on PS4, then compare the 2 games. There's a huuuuuuuge difference. Why couldn't a game made for current gen systems not outshine one from last gen?! It's pathetic and I'm not buying any of the PR they spit to sell any more WD trash. Keep it classy Ubi
as long as they dont make yearly watch dogs game releases i am okay with this franchise.
1. Replace Aiden with a more interesting character 2. Make the hacking feature more robust and interesting. 3. Get a story that makes sense.
So start over from scratch?
can't for w_d 2, next gen, pc only, new character, gta online style world, more things to hack, not limited by battery or have more of it, hack every1's bank accounts not just 1 in 50 people. next game won't be out next year no way they'd shown it by now at GDC or whatever.
Hopefully this time we will get the game that was shown at E3 2012...
Lot of redeeming to do and COMPETITION! GTA V Remastered looks incredible. They started with a good foundation (hype didn't help, neither did cross-gen gap), so hope they go all out on the next one. But wont be a preorder for me unless in all ways it appears to be a knock out sequel.
When I first got Watch Dogs I was mad hype but after playing it for a few hours I just kept telling myself I rather play GTA 5, Watch Dog is a decent game IMO the Story is not that interesting and the Missions are nothing special I admit the game has potential I'm just hoping they get it right with the sequel
It was a let down in the graphics department. Not terrible no, but not where it should have been. The Worse Mod did a great job getting it close.
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