Remastered video games hitting store shelves with a full retail price tag is the latest trend. The article discusses when a remastered game is justified and when it simply isn't, bearing in mind that the PS4 and Xbox One are not backward-compatible.
Depends on the quality of the remaster. The Last of Us is a must have. Silent Hill Collection is a cash grab.
I totally agree. Halo: The Master Chief Collection? Must-have. TLOU Remastered? Cash-grab.
Your comment is on backwards
@Enemy "forgotten memory" i cant forget more than 1000 hours of gameplay, but how many hours you played TLOU (is more easy to forget)
The answer to the title's question is… it depends on how each gamer feels about the game/games in question. The Master Chief Collection isn't something I'd ever consider a must have because I find Halo to be one of the most overrated series of all time, both on and offline. I also don't consider The Last of Us Remastered to be a must have because, though I enjoyed it, one play through was plenty for me. Neither remaster is a cash grab. The Ico/Shadow of the Colossus Collection was a must have for me even though I had played the original versions of both multiple times. The original God of War Collection was a must have for me because I had never played GoW2. For those who haven't played the original games, or want to replay them with enhanced visuals, remastered versions can be a great thing. As always, no one is forced to buy them. People who don't like them should get it through their heads that they aren't the only consumers who dictate how the market functions.
Hmmm. Last time I checked Halo 1 will be a remaster of a remaster. Only Microsoft are desperate to attempt that kind of milking
Why is it a must have? I can bust out the originals any time I want. Oh wait no, its a must have because Xbox "crazies" and many from the gaming media are hyping it up right? Even after plenty of articles have come showing how hype is bad...
i see no remaster as a cash grab.. you don't want it you dont buy it. I bought lots of remasters on PS3 and most of them have been requested by gamers for so long time (Jak, Sly, Ratchet, God of War...). In the case of big blockbusters like The Last of Us, many ex-360 owners who never owned ps3 and bought PS4 need to try them.
The Last of Us is a run of the mill, cash grab remaster. It was done less than a year after the game came out, and it isn't anything special. Master Chief Collection is a different story. 2 of the games are complete remasters with significant graphics/audio upgrades. The other 2, Halo 3 and 4 are more improved but really the same stuff The Last of Us did. The difference here is Halo 3 is 7 years old, and Halo 4 is 2. Not a year like the Last of Us. Another difference is The Last of Us is $50, with all it's DLC. Master Chief Collection is Halo 1, Halo 1 Anniversary, Halo PC, Halo 2, Halo 2 Anniversary, Halo 2 PC, all Halo 2 DLC, Halo 3, all Halo 3 DLC, Halo 4, all Halo 4 DLC, a Halo 5 beta invite, and Halo Nightfall, a 6 episode (i think) TV show, all for $60 - and in all honesty I think all us Halo players were just expecting Halo 2 Anniversary for $60. Easy to see why it is must have, and not a cash grab. We should all agree that Halo Master Chief Collection needs to be the new standard in what remasters are and how they should be done. @Enemy "Must be difficult times for you, being a Halo fanboy and yet knowing that The Last of Us has made Halo fade like a forgotten memory that never won GOTY. The Last of Us: Remastered received nothing but perfect scores yet again, and every PS4 owner that didn't get to play it last gen was given the opportunity to catch up on one of the greatest games ever made, period." Halo is so much bigger than The Last of Us. Last of Us is a video game. Halo is video games, movies, books, comics, graphic novels, board games, anime, toys, collectibles, etc, etc, etc. Halo 1-4 all won GotY awards. You would hope that The Last of Us remastered would score at least as good as the original. Master Chief Collection is going to get 10/10 across the board except by Sony fanboys who decide to write a review without playing it.
XBLSkull bashing Last of Us and glorifying Halo collection.. normal stuff!
Quality as well as quantity of the remaster. While you could look at the ratchet and clank collection or god of war collection as cash grabs because they are effectvely the same games as their original versions. They are must haves because you get all of them in one nice collection. Complete with remastered visuals. Same goes with master chief collection. Any game where you get 2, 3 or more full games totally reworked in one nice convenient package for one really good price is a must have. I have not played last of us but the remastered version is the same game with all redone visuals as well as all dlc from what i gather. And i believe it is cheaper than the original because of all the extra content that would have amounted to more if purchased individually. If these devs are going to encourage people into buying these collections by way of filling the discs up with all sorts of content then why complain?
It depends on the game.
Totally depends. Good remaster: Tomb Raider, TLOU, Metro, Halo. Bad remaster: Silent Hill, Dynasty Warriors 8, Dead or Alive 5. Now, can we stop with the articles 'evaluating' remastering old games as such? How about we simply put out reviews of particular remasters. If a company wants to put one out and there's a market for it, as there clearly is, there's no point putting out article after article judging the merits of remasters.
Dynasty Warriors 8 is more of a port than a remaster, and it had good value since it came with both DW8 and DW8 Extreme Legends on the same disc, both of which are separate games. I don't see how that falls under the bad "remasters" category. I mean the DW games have always been pretty bare bones on the technical side with weak graphic engines, not much to improve on for a port.
Granted. And I bought it. But I was thinking along the lines of remasters, and as you say if we class it as a port then its quite good.
Every single one is a cash grab.
"Depends on the quality of the remaster." "It depends on the game." It doesn't depend on anything, nor should it be considered in stiff categories of either "must have" or "cash grab". All of the best games should be updated for the current quality standards - that's what they do with movies and music. The "remastering" process itself is done by external teams, so I can't understand any objections to it.
I have to say, some of the best games I played this year are remastered games. Tomb Raider Diablo 3 The Last of Us Rayman Legend And I will probably buy GTA V. So keep them coming I guess lol
I agree, missed Diablo 3 last gen, so I picked it up day one. The last of us is an excellent game have the survival edition on ps3 and double dipped on ps4 with no regrets. Missed GTA V, so maybe ill pick it up on the new console.
Diablo 3 has turned my PS4 into a every day console use, loving it, never touched it on PS3 but on PS4 is sweeeeet
Yeah, I think that they're great.. especially with games like Zelda on the Wii U... since alot of people probably missed the gamecube version... I know that or me, the remastered ICO/SoTC was great on PS3, since by the time Shadow o the Collossus released on ps2, I had already sold my system and moved on to PS3.. I think Sony and MS kinda screwed us a little by not having backwards compatibility on the PS4 and XBone, so they could sell these remasters.. that practice is kinda shady, but otherwise, I dig 'em..
I like some remakes, but I do think we have been getting too many of them as of late.
Halo 3 and 4 remastered are at least what they would have looked and played like had they been released on PC. They have some nerve talking about how "next gen" they look on Xbone. Think about it — Crysis 1 was the high end of PC gaming in 2007, Halo 3 would have been a relative breeze to run at 1080p/60fps. Computers now could run Halo 3 at 4k/144fps. How irritating.
What a bloody rhetorical question. Of course it's cashgrab galore here. Next-gen console gaming; Remasters, buzzwords & NO GAMES. Just repeat 1080p/60fps enough times, and people will forget their bricks have no games.
Let's see... the best PS4 game right now is TLoU remastered and knowing the quality of the game it will most likely remain in that position until the end of the year. As for the X1, I have no doubt that the halo collection will be the best game(s) on it until end of the year. As for multiplatforms... GTAV. So much for next gen. "Remasters, buzzwords & NO GAMES" Well said +bubble. Not having BC is definetely great for Sony, MS and 3rd party devs.
i wouldnt call it cashgrabs. i call it giving people an opporrtunity to play something they may have missed out last gen. obviously for devs/pubs they would love to release these on more platforms so that their hardcore fans can go out and buy another version of their game. but these are generally for others that havent played it before. is gtav for pc a cash grab? is all later pc ports a cash grab? not saying your wrong, because you do have a point.
Cash Grab. Whoever disagrees obviously has their fanboy hat on.
I disagreed because for some stupid reason you actually believe that your opinion is a fact. And who ever has a different opinion is wrong. Grow up, you are not the holder of the true.
"Whoever disagrees obviously has their fanboy hat on." …or they simply disagree with your opinion. (Gamer sees remaster of a game he/she likes) - "Must have!" (Gamer sees remaster of a game he/she doesn't like) - "Cash grab!" Either way, the gamer can spend his/her money how they like.
You're not my supervisor!
Cash grab is pretty much a motive behind every re-release of a video game. There is a market for these, so why not, from a business perspective, pump them out? I fear this will flood the market. There are a lot of great games from last gen as well as plenty of untapped customers and double-dippers. Re-releasing them on a new generation of platforms would almost always return an instant success...
Uhhhh, this article seems a few months late
My wallet says that they are a cash grab. I like the idea of older games like FFX and Halo getting remastered because they are classics, But I'm not going to pay for the same game that came out a year before. I adore TLOU but there is no way anyone can convince me to buy it again now just because the graphics are prettier, it was pretty enough already and it wasn't the graphics that made me love the game.
The name "Definitive Edition" is just a marketing tool to get more sales and in THAT sense it very much is a cash grab. It makes the game sound better than before even though it really is the same bloody game. You want the best experience don't you, eh? With that said, I don't mind that games from last gen are getting re-released with better graphics. It's good for the people who haven't played them before. The customer is happy and the publishers/developers are happy. Win win.
It depends... To me for a re-master to be worth while... 1) Add achievements/trophies to games that existed before the 360 and PS3... These pure ports should be sold at a significantly reduced price though... Typically $5.99-$19.99 2) An exponential change of graphics and frame rate that makes the game play a lot smoother visually... These should be sold cheaper than the original with games being re-mastered. Within 3 years of original release should be $19.99... 4-5 years from release being $29.99... Greater than 5 years $39.99... No single re-mastered game should be greater than $39.99. 3) Bundling an IP of several hit games... God of War Collection, Sly Collection, Halo MCC, etc.
i personally think that trying to put a price tag on these remasters is a thing that shouldnt really be considered. also this article more inline with remasters and definitive versions more than hd collections. hd collections were basic upres of games so that gamers can play on their hdtv. i personally think that the multiplats that came out around 2012 and onwards on ps3 and 360 were really struggling and probably nothing like the creator envisioned. which is why pc versions were definitely the ones to get at that time. and these are worth getting a ps4 port. remember skyrim and fallout3(for me anyway) had massive framerate problems few hours into game? DmC running at 30fps, sleeping dogs had a shit ton more going on the pc version. etc.
I definitely agree that when X360 and PS3 hit year 8 they were tapped out graphically, and games beyond 8 sometimes pushed the limits too far on those consoles.
Let the dollar show what is good or bad, because in the end that is all that matters!
ok, this seems to end up as whatever game you like deserves a remaster. lets tryto ignore most of the ps2 to ps3 hd collections since this article is more inline with ps3 to ps4 versions. also like to add that ps2 to ps3 hd collections were made so that you can play them on your hdtv. looked terrible using ps2. also like to add that is just a hd upres and not much has been done to it. tomb raider - added a ton of effects, new character model and moving hair. i thought original looked good enough. new game had a bump up in fps but that game didnt suffer from too much framerate problems on ps3. i personally dont think it was neccesary, but why not? tlou - upressed textures, better aa, bumpmapping? almost 60fps at all times. just want to say that this game seemed more of a cashgrab compared to the rest due to ps3 version being amazing. gta & sleeping dogs - seems like more cars, more people, better effects. i think they are pretty important for an open world game. had a blast playing sleeping dogs then saw my friends pc version and imy ps3 version just seemed empty. these two games definitely not cash grab.
cmon that question can only be answered with "it depends"
I personally think there should be at a minimum... A console generation between re-masters/re-makes
Best game until now, on PS4 is the Last of Us Remastered. I am overjoyed that occurred, I'm not sorry I bought it again (I bought it on ps3).
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