The cuts are part of larger reductions at Microsoft
"Microsoft is cutting staff at Xbox Entertainment Studios" - So not new. Anyways thoughts to those affected and hope they get back on their feet.
The article stated that this will happen Thursday, ahead of the previous announced date. This is the Santa-Monica area studios. Lots of tech companys in that area, some hopefully all affected find new gigs!
It sounds like the jobs were entertainment related, not so much tech related. Either way, I hope they all land in their feet.
I wish those developers good luck in finding themselves new jobs.
Wish they didnt cut anyone from xbox division ....
Its difficult breaking into the TV biz, not sure why Microsoft thinks it can build one from scratch. It took Sony over 14 years to build its TV division with the help of its massive movie studios and its starting to finally crank out hits such as Breaking Bad and The Blacklist. Its not something that can be achieved overnight let alone without industry resources and built relationships.
Expect to see such massive layoffs across all sectors of the economy in the coming two years due to the implementation of the "Affordable Care Act". All businesses with more than 50 full-time (now considered 29 hours or more per week) employees are going to be required to provide very expensive medical coverage to every one of them or face massive fines. It doesn't matter if they're software engineers, homeboy at GameStop, or employees at McDonalds. Everyone must be "given" overpriced insurance that covers everything including birth control, drug rehab, prenatal care, childrens dental, condoms, and more... regardless of your age, gender, or sexual preference. I can't wait till the gay guys i know find out they are being forced to have birth control, prenatal care, and childrens dental as part of their policies! haha. The thing is, because you're being forced to have this coverage (or your boss covering you), the insurance companies know you have to buy it, and the prices are going to skyrocket higher than they already are. (mine tripled from $160/mo to $530/mo) And this will cause companies to either A) Cut employees hours below 29/week and hire more part-time workers to make up the lost man-hours or B) Lay-off enough workers to lower costs C) Raise the hell out of prices and screw consumers. I'm sure we'll be seeing all three of these since small businesses have been dealing with this bull$#it law for the past year and that's what we've had to do.
@ dirkdady Yes it is actually its called unlimited cash and execs with influence everywhere. MS in a nutshell. The did cut into Sony's and Nintendo's console gaming deathgrip didnt they? The gaming industry is as hard to penetrate as the TV's if not worse. Finally, they only need to succeed in the US when it comes to TV shows the rest of the world will follow, while gaming is a global effort. Hell Netflix did it on their own why MS shouldn't? They already have a platform to deliver that content at everyone’s homes already.
@kreate "Wish they didnt cut anyone from xbox division" - They did but that was part of the advertising team. "Some of the job cuts will be in marketing departments for businesses such as the global Xbox team, said the people. The European Xbox team is based in Reading, U.K." - http://www.bloomberg.com/ne...
@andrew Companies have been laying off people for decades without an affordable care act. MS already offers it's employees health insurance, so I doubt that's the reason they're doing this. The affordable care act mandate for business(and people going the private route) has been delayed until 2015, and may be pushed back to 2016. Not everyone's insurance has gone up, mine has actually gone down, and I am eligible for the govt paying some through the marketplace, so it went from $350/mth to $290/mnth and $200 after the rebate thingy. A)Companies may do that, or they may just pay the rather measly fine involved with not offering insurance which would be much less than having to offer insurance. Companies aren't required to give their employees mega-awesome(expensive) insurance, just offer it, and believe me, many companies have really crap insurance which isn't worth the money for it's employees, and the employer isn't required to pay any portion of the health insurance for it's employees beyond the initial group buy-in...which is only a few thousand dollars a year for most companies. The mandate to actually have insurance falls on the individual though, and anyone is able to opt-out of any employee offered insurance. B)They do this all the time already. A majority of companies need a minimum number of man hours to operate, and that will be maintained. MS sees layoffs every few years. C)Yeah, except customers won't pay. Prices are determined by market forces, and there is always a medium that has to be found between revenue and costs. I believe there are some issues with the affordable care act that need to be addressed. However, using these layoffs as your sounding board against Obama is rather lame. If you're going to spew propaganda, at least make sure you have your facts straight.
NOTHING to do with affordable care act. Not even close. The pain of small business is not he same as Microsoft. Everyone already has enough health coverage in software. These are high paying jobs with good benefits. Don't worry, they will be fine.
Thank you, FOX News correspondent AndrewLB. Up next… Bill O'Reilly exposes more of the mysteries that science just can't explain, such as tides. OT - As someone who lost their job due to 9/11 related downsizing, I know how much it sucks to be suddenly out of work. Good luck to all those people.
@mystic And a bubble for you, sir.
They will be okay, this trend of layoff is not something good though. Preoccupying non the less.
Microsoft is cutting 18,000 jobs company wide over the course of a year, am I the only one that read that. That's a lot of lost jobs.
Microsoft employs 128,000 people worldwide 61,000 of that number in the US. So they intend to get rid of 16 to 17 percent of it's employees in one year. http://www.microsoft.com/en... Sony employs 140,000 people worldwide. http://www.sony.net/SonyInf... Walmart 2.1 million US alone. Mcdonalds 1.9 million US alone. Volcswagon 501,956 world wide.
Largely due to nokia aquisition they gained about 25.000 employees. 2013 they had 99.000 employees in 2014 as of june they had 127.000 employees. http://www.businessinsider....
Microsoft's official number of employees worldwide is 128,076 as of June 30. Your point does not negate a large number of jobs being lost, because of Microsoft. !8,000 jobs are being reduced company wide, I read the article and the official Microsoft financial page.
This thread is a lesson in 'read the fookin actual article!'
It's because they purchase Mine Craft for 2 Billion. IF they hadn't done so those people wouldn't lost their jobs
The hell is this? Is this even news? Sooooo they are laying off people of a division that has been confirmed to be closing long ago? I'm....I'm just not sure what anyone expected. Do the not understand what closing down a studio means? Thats like doing a following story about a company closing down with "Company X hit with layoffs" Its bad journalism. Of course its being hit with layoffs, its been confirmed they are closing the whole damn division down, thus....those people have been CONFIRMED to be layed off. I'm not sure what they would be doing at MS after the fact anyways.
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EDIT 1: @SuperBlur: Thank you for clarifying, I now see it makes sense.
they're not devs http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
too much money
Microsoft having an xbox studio dedicated to making tv content was a bit of a weird move in the first place, they also haven't churned out much in the 2 or so years that they have been around.
Yeah agreed. Seems smarter, and safer, to hire studios to do content than to open up a whole studio.
Then MS wastes 2bi buying JUST ONE studio, a studio MS probably will destroy after.
It was purchased to help sell mobiles. Mobiles are key to MS's vision of the future.
they think its key but its not lets be honest their phone division is just not healthy
I dunno. I think they could get that mobile support without buying up the whole company. I think the buyout was more about the fact that MineCraft actually does make a lot of money, so it's not a bad investment. If it didn't make money, then I doubt the shareholders would have gone for it. I can't say if it's a good long term investment, nor can I say if it will move any hardware for them on any front, but it will likely return their investment. As far as their mobile stuff, they just need to get more people to see how good Window's Phone OS actually is. They were late to the party there, and have to fight against two very entrenched competitors who have completely different philosophies from MS.
Ok let's watch all the PS4 guys start posting, 1. X1 not selling, 2. Due to ps4 more powerful, 3. Not selling overseas, 5. Because they don't like it..lol... Sony girls??? Don't forget MS just spent 2 billions on minecraft...we are A-Ok It really is OK!!! Cause Sony will be doing same thing when there Sony Tv fails also... Don't hate!!!! Cause I own all 3. Ps4 x1 wii u
There TV division has already failed what are you talking about? They have lost money on it for the past 10 years. Also what's wrong with Sony girls?
@Trekster_Gamer lol lol lol lol lol lol! Haters gonna hate so come at me bro ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
He doesn't like girls.
@ Macdaddy71 I wouldn't worry about that; if it's true or false, none of us here can do anything about it.
Watch people blow this out of proportion.
well the same thing happened when a couple ppl left sony, I can imagine 18,000 will be a big deal too right ?
LMFAO! Yes...because closing down divisions while spending $400 million on NFL, 2 billion on a single IP and $30 million on a washed up IP like Gears are all great things. Um...yet they didn't buy Bioware when they had the chance, still no new PGR studio etc. MS last little spending spree that hits near 3 Billion has not done a damn thing to convince me to even want to consider getting a XONE. Sounds like more wasted investments to me. I'm not sure the MS higher up will take another lost generation in a row. (this would be the 3rd lost generation by them, mind you....they have LESS studios then they started last gen with) Don't be surprised if MS seeks to sell the XB division to another company as I'm not too sure they can keep a float.
I knew this was coming. M$ wasted 2$ Billion dollars on buying MINE CRAFT and yet they cut jobs in their own XBOX division.
wait..how is this gaming related? I remember an article about Sony a couple of days ago about them increasing the losses endured by certain divisions and it was denied 3 times as NOT GAMING RELATED...to which I do agree...but now we have something to do with TV/movies and this gets approved? I am beginning to see a pattern here on N4G...when did it stop being about the games here and more of just flaming wars? The title is incorrect and should say XBox Entertainment Studios...should it not? This should not have been approved as its not gaming related
I am not sure, I was here in 2007 and it was the same then, how old is this site? it must have been before I joined when things where different.
The sites needs hired moderators rather than community driven moderation. I've seen terrible articles get approved simply cause they favor or bash a particular console. They are also articles that are blatantly false that get approved.
This is not gaming related but it is console related as these TV/movies were going to be made for Xbox, some are also made about games such as Halo and Quantum Break which is the same as how Last of Us movie news comes here too. The Sony article you are referring is strictly about the mobile division and has nothing to do with Playstation/games/gaming.
This was a waste of money and dumb idea to begin with. Thank God this is being shut down.
To all the uninformed idiots 80 percent of the jobs that are being cut are from people that are now working for them from the nokia acquisition. microsoft already has most of those jobs in their phone division so there is no need for a duplicate which is why their cutting so many jobs. Also the jobs from the xbox division were for the studio that was doing the tv stuff which I dont have a problem with them getting rid of.
Does it matter where they were from? 18000 people still lost their jobs. Stop with the excuses.
instead of spending 2billion on its own developers, micro buys minecraft. haha
this is all because of that big sexy ps4 KICKING MAJOR ASS WORLD-WIDE,making the xone absolutely an afterthought... even launching in more territorys recently did chit,the launch barely made a dent(mostly because the xone was already out in ALL those countries but xbot jerkoffs couldnt admit it). so ps5,expect halo/gears forza(S) alan wake ect to be on it(not that any of them are that worth it especially since halo/gears are made by different trash teams now,epic/bungie are long gone)... the end of the xbox brand is comming to a sad end because of the ps4(and the fact that ms had to put a fking camera in the xone and sacrificing a real gpu in there like the ps4's gpgpu monster)
MS has to be the dumbest company in the world. They spend so much money on crap. Like look at the Cortana vs. Siri commercials. They want their phones to sell so bad. I think they will end the xbox brand after XB1. That's why they bought Mine Craft. They will be going software only. Get ready for Halo and Gears on PS4 lol.
WOW Bro, Rare has done great! $400 million on NFL has given them some amazing IPs that are selling XONEs like HOTCAKES! 2 billion on Minecraft = at least 100 million more XONE's being sold! Gears Of War IP being bought is also great as the series is getting better and better and we are seeing Halo and Call Of Duty numbers from it.
I laugh so hard when fanboys become PR guys.
gotta wonder how those people feel, losing their jobs at ms, just when ms spends two and a half billion on mojang. i know i wouldn't be happy right now.
I love sony but let is leave fanboisom aside. if this layoffs leading to many closure then we might not have a gaming industry.
It's a start. Now they just need to kill off the rest of the Xbox division.
You mean like what's happening to Sony? -New York Headquarters...sold -Tokyo Office Building...sold -438million in DeNA shares...sold -Music catalog...sold -PC Business...trying to sell -Old Tokyo Headquarters...sold -and laying off developers -Closed 20 Sony Stores - closed 3 studios Now that's a good start, and it's resulted in Sony having a credit rating of junk as stated by Fitch and Moody's, btw, MS has a AAA credit rating
WHy you leave out entertainment studios in the title? we knew they was making lay off because xbox is not all about TV like it used to be. But i hope the people find a job
but but MS has teh moneeeey!!!
hope the ones affected by this get back in their feet again, Im sure their talents will be very well welcomed at other studios
Everyone here is gamer, and as a gamer it does get annoying every day one camp vs the other vs the the other other (Were already grown men, lets act like it). I just hope all these people who got layoff find a job soon as they impact the industry that we love and enjoy.
Microsoft, stop spending so much on timed exclusives and put that money in to studios. This is where you are going wrong.
then why buy the minecraft developer?
This is sad news, but it is strange that MS has just spent 2 billion just to buy Mojang and yet they're cutting jobs on Xbox division itself..
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