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The E-Mails that Prove Video Games Journalism Must Be Reformed

In light of our revelations about the secret gaming journalism mailing list GameJournoPros, few can doubt that damaging groupthink has taken hold of the video games journalism establishment.

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001460d ago

this stuff just makes me so angry, absolutely ridiculous.

JohnathanACE1460d ago

It makes me angry as well but at least many gamers are taking a stand against this crap and fighting back with the truth. These leftist think they can silence us but they're wrong!

-Foxtrot1460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

Yeah same here because like what some of the big guys behind the Gamer Gate movement has said, if we let this slide then it's going to give journalists the idea they can do this even worse because nobody will give a shit.

I hope people keep fighting until this is all dealt with.

Milo Yiannopoulos deserves a lot of recognition for all this hard work he's put into this because this wouldn't of came to light without his help.

"These leftist think they can silence us but they're wrong!"

Long as we keep speaking out they won't be able to. It's happening all over, even here, my article from the same site was recently failed on here yesterday because it apparently wasn't gaming related (yeah I know...funny right)....luckily Cat managed to sort it out and get it back up, don't know about the other failed GamerGate articles though

Despite that though the damage is done, people are already talking about this site on the Facebook Gamer Gate page about the failed articles, with screenshots aswell. Shame but what do you expect.

I was scared that people were going to be silenced and have there comments hidden on here like other places but so far that hasn't happened.

Well done people for speaking out, if you think this is pointless then you are just going to be walked all over on again...remember these people are being paid to lie to you while they get free games, press kits, get to meet gaming icons in person, people who lie don't deserve that.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Makroyale1460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

It's not about left or right, it's about right and wrong...

EDIT: I don't think this article will be censored this time (last one was censored, then uncensored).

It's gotten to the point where this story is going to get major news attention.

JohnathanACE1460d ago

@Makroyale

It kinda is. If you haven't notice all the SJW and the websites that promote them (such as Kotaku or Polygon) all promote extremely left-wing/Marxist ideas.The exact same thing happens in all other forms of media and the gaming media is no different (except for the fact that we're fighting back).

001460d ago

I dont think there leftist anymore,from all the stuff I've seen from them trying to silence minorities, trying to force a narrative etc. they straight up just want complete control and are more a cult then anything.

Makroyale1460d ago

Agreed... I don't feel that this is about politics.

It's hard to believe, just a few days ago it was all fun and games as they chastised and criticized all the gamers (their customers).

Now that this list is out and these emails, most of their mouths are closed and they're not laughing anymore.

viperman2401460d ago

@Foxtrot

Preach brother, preach it!

I would love to add more, but you pretty much covered it.

I can also just be lazy and copy and paste what I've seen in past related articles lol.

user65409481460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

Lefties? I'm a left-leaning Libertarian but it doesn't matter where my political stances fall--any lady who will blow strangers to get ahead in a career by fudging reviews is disgusting. No matter what. And the men who did it are dead wrong. Especially because she looks like she isn't much of a bather in many of her photos (you can count the pores in her skin due to the dirt in them causing said pores to stand out). Idiots risked getting STD's/Cooties and ruining their careers and the integrity of journalism for THAT?! Desperate...

Clarence1460d ago

WTH are you talking about? It's about what's right and wrong.

Dee_911460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

Hopefully this article doesn't fail in a few hours because its " OLD" "Not game related " and "Lame"
http://n4g.com/news/1589343...

Sargon of Akkad had a great conversation with Liana Kerzner a journalist from Polygon and an actual reasonable feminist. Although she was there to explain the side of the "anti-" #GamerGate crowd, ( not the people that just throw misogynist and sexist around but the people with I guess,legitimate concern) it was kind of clear that she didn't know much about gamergate and its stance against gaming journalism because it seemed like she actually agreed with gamergate for the most part..He made a great point in the video when he said, gamers really wouldn't care or really be affected if these bloggers quit and there is really no coming back from this, and he is %100 correct.
I do believe there are still good gaming journalist, and I believe they don't talk about this because they value their jobs and connections with certain people, just like some developers have come out to say.

Its just baffling that those people in that group don't see anything wrong with what they did.They essentially wanted to use their platform to skew or alter views on the subject.I can sort of understand not wanting to write about her to bring more attention to her personal life, and not seeing the link that arose from her personal life to the lack of ethics in gaming journalism, because you yourselves don't value those ethics, so no harm done in their eyes..Instead of looking in the mirror, actually listening to our concerns and remember what you learned about journalism and ethics, you decide to spin this to make gamers look bad while pushing an agenda? That is insane.Not only because you talking ill of your audience on a generalized scale, but also using your platform to force your ideology on people..Lets not even talk about the fact they can dictate what can and can't be posted.. as if it wasn't already obvious. Like I said man its no coming back from that.They can all resign and let the journalist and editors that value ethics take over.

@M00
Yea.. thats what extreme lefts are. ie marxism.I get what youre saying that these people don't really represent the left, but it is still the left ideology.Just like how the right have their extremist that shouldn't represent the average right.

AndrewLB1460d ago

This is not isolated to gaming journalism. You ever notice how reporters and anchors on NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, LA Times, etc all have very similar talking points and all seem to ignore the exact same stories? This is no coincidence. Since the 1960's, Journalism departments at Universities as well as newsrooms across the country have been taken over by Progressives and it's so bad today that if you show any sign of objectivity, you'll never get a job. Well.. unless you get hired at Fox News.

Why else would so few American's know about the Justice Department forcing gun shops to sell fully automatic rifles to straw buyers for the cartels in Mexico, then never tracked them? Then they stonewalled the investigation by having Obama claim executive privilege.
Or how about how the media helped the white house cover up the events that happened in Benghazi, Libya? Dutifully repeating the lies from Hillary and Obama about how the whole thing was caused by a spontaneous demonstration over an anti-muslim youtube video. They all lied to cover up the fact that it was a pre-planned terrorist attack on 9/11 causing 4 Americans deaths including the first ambassador in 30+ years. And after countless requests for air support, backup from Tripoli, or a simple flyover by F/A-18's... none came. Obama went to bed because he had a fundraiser in the morning in Vegas, and NEVER sent help.
Or have any of you heard about Seal Team 6, the guys who allegedly killed Bin Laden? Well 22 of them got killed when their helicopter was shot down in afghanistan. What the media covered up is they actually survived the crash and fought for hours on the ground against taliban forces. Nobody sent help, all of them died. Then to cover up the firefight, all the bodies were cremated illegally before being brought back to the US.

And the entire time, the corrupt media fed the public every single lie the traitor in the White House told them.

donthate1460d ago

Pardon my interruption and intrusion, but I repeatedly hear "Zoe slept around to further her career and get more PR for her game", but so far I have yet to see any more articles or PR for her game as a result from sleeping around. Now the former is hard to prove, but the latter should be easy.

If anything, it just seems like she is just a regular ugly person that cheats, but there seems to be no evidence otherwise. Anyone?

Dee_911460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

@YouAreSalty I don't even feel like looking it up but there are a couple youtube videos showing how the people she slept with or had personal relationships with help further her career.Those videos show some of the people she had relationships with in the industry actually invested in her game.The videos also showed how the people she had relationships with in the industry used their platform to expose her game and make her money ( this doesn't automatically equate to articles and most of the "PR" was within the gaming industry IE advertising on the site and linking to it in other games articles) , and in return, make money off their investment, all of which is an conflict of interest which is against journalist ethics.Kotaku and polygon responded by saying they will not give money to indie developers anymore.. well kotaku did, polygon basically said we will continue to do so, but ask our journalist to disclose it, if they were to write an article about that person, in other words, they did nothing. There is countless amount of evidence.. BUT, it is indeed still not fact though all evidence leads to it.However as a result of this, it brought to gamers the concern of wanting more transparency in gaming journalism.

Maybe you should actually look it up instead of thinking it should all land in your lap or isn't true.
I'll help you get started.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

(extremely dramatic but I guess thats the theme here )
https://encyclopediadramati...

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-Foxtrot1460d ago

If anyone is having trouble looking at the full email dump, here you go

https://archive.today/JFoxJ

viperman2401460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

Thanks for this, I'll have to check this out tomorrow.

Kudos for Mike Futter for noticing not to get into this, and being professional.

-Foxtrot1460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

No problem

The main one on Milo Yiannopoulos page was took down by him because he saw that he forgot to cover up one or two phone numbers and other personal infomation.

The original should be back up tomorrow with the new edits

viperman2401460d ago

I saw that, I'm surprised he mad such an amateur mistake after he stated this himself.

http://i.imgur.com/j8XCnXG....

Well I guess we are human after all...

Th4Freak1460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

Awesome, thanks! Care with cl1983 and Nineball2112 tho.

SilentNegotiator1460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

"Ben Kuchera Aug 19
Yeah, I’m really confused and saddened that this is even a conversation."

-_-
Saddened and confused that a story of corruption is being discussed.

Lots of hate for The Escapist, too. Nothing scares them more than a website that's primarily games that doesn't get all of their money and stories from big publishing companies and allows free discussion amongst their members. Scary stuff for people like Ben.

edit: Wait, Aug 19?
edit 2: Nevermind, It's from UK :)

LightDiego1460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

That incident shows what's gaming journalism is made of. Let's boycott this pricks until they go away. These corrupt journalists are not important at all for gaming.
We need professionals, not these hipsters pushing their agenda and trying to ruin games.
Kotaku, Gamespot, Polygon, Rock Paper Shotgun, Wired, fu** off.

viperman2401460d ago

You said it, many people have the same sentiment. Check this up to date traffic chart.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.a...

Keep ignoring these sites, they will crumble and have to face the music soon enough.

N1GHT_W0LF_X1460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

Is there a list somewhere of all the sites that have proven connections to Gamer Gate? I'd like to know exactly which to avoid. I know of a few but I'm not too up-to-date with all the new developments since there seems to be a new bombshell every day or two.

SilentNegotiator1460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

A mod failed the high heat mailing list article ( http://n4g.com/news/1589343... - it got re-approved, but it's too late - it's not on the hottest news column where it belongs) just like someone failed the high heat Zoe Quinn article ( http://n4g.com/news/1569416... ).

Something tells me that some mods here on N4G are on the list. The idea that the way that game news is reported isn't game news (ESPECIALLY when it's about corruption) is completely preposterous.

JohnathanACE1460d ago

A mod named Nineball2112 desperately tried to fail the article on the Kotaku sex exchange. Hmmm I wounder what he was trying to hide. ;)

001460d ago

I've noticed that a lot with this gamer-gate stuff, you would think a select group of journalist controlling what is news worthy and what is not, should be all over the front page.

Makroyale1460d ago

Don't worry... This one won't get censored...

It's too late now. The movement has overcome the censoring (this email leak helped that happen).

SilentNegotiator1460d ago

This specific post on N4G probably will if it manages to reach 300+ degrees.

Makroyale1460d ago

This story will start hitting major news sites. I'm not saying N4G is irrelevent, but it's gotten to the point where it won't matter anymore and the mods will just look stupid for doing it.

SilentNegotiator1460d ago

"This story will start hitting major news sites"

Don't be too sure. Game journalists EVERYWHERE attempted to snuff out the original "gamergate" affair (in exchange giving us simultaneously-released "OMG TEH GAMER IDENTITY R DEAD" pieces), WHETHER or not they were involved.

Major news sites won't want to bring attention to journalism corruption, either, in fear that it will bring more watchful eyes on journalism in general.

-Foxtrot1460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

If you only know what I had to go through in PM's to get that back up.

I wouldn't be surprised to be honest

Probably why Kotaku haven't been removed on this site yet despite our down voting.

Think about it guys...same goes for Polygon and others

If this article and our comments where we are speaking freely ON TOPIC with the article is modded then we know something is up

SilentNegotiator1460d ago

+1 Helpful
Forcing N4G staff to admit that it is legitimate game news is important precedent.

Cat's a cool cat, though; if anything, we can be sure that any sort of shenanigans don't go all the way to the top. ;)

gigoran1460d ago

I've resorted to campaigning entirely on twitter. I was actually banned and unbanned twice on n4g for speaking out. I'm glad n4g is getting actual support posted for us at #gamergate, but I just don't feel comfortable talking about it on n4g since their censorship of my account.

-Foxtrot1460d ago

Well I had some help, a few other people PM'd Cat and other mods aswell

I got blocked by one mod because he didn't want to know about "my little movement" and how it shouldn't be on the site.

You can all see it on the Facebook page in the comments, scroll down until you a friend of mine named Jay Roberts who put the screenshots up. He's also a member of the site so thank you Jay :)

I hope Cat isn't involved, I hope she writes a public blog post to address these issues because we need someone like her on GamerGate side. This site is a great way to get GG more exposure.

viperman2401460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

@Foxtrot

Don't take all the credit now, I did my fair share if it really matters. :)

Edit: Never mind, you just said it the second I posted this lol

Double Edit: This is the post he's referring to.
https://www.facebook.com/ph...

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