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Is Sony's RPG Dominance Coming To An End?

RPGFan.com's Editor-in-Chief takes an in-depth look into the status of the RPG genre on the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 consoles and explores the reasons why he believes the tides are changing:

"Although some diehard PlayStation fans will refuse to admit it, partly to justify their purchase and to protect their favorite company, the PlayStation 3 has been a pretty big disappointment so far for RPG fans. Now, this wouldn't be that bad if we stopped at the "so far" part, but the problem is that it doesn't seem to be getting any better for the foreseeable future. Now, keep in mind that throughout this editorial, I will only be taking into account the American releases and not the Japanese market.

After the success of the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 consoles and the abundance of RPGs for those systems, it's a hard pill to swallow for those who were expecting the same from the PlayStation 3. Where are the RPGs? Where is Suikoden? Wild Arms? Shadow Hearts? .hack? Arc the Lad? Breath of Fire? Dark Cloud? Grandia? Shining Force? Dragon Quest? Where are the first party RPGs? Where are all the Square Enix RPGs? There's obviously something missing from the PlayStation 3 and that thing is the RPG genre.

Now, before I go any further, I'm going to explain why I think the PlayStation 3 is a disappointment so far and offer some statistics to support my argument before delving into the possible reasons for this situation. A lot of people are going to argue that the PlayStation 3 has only been out a short while (a year and a half) and that it takes time for RPGs to come to a new system. Now, this might seem true to a certain extent but the problem is that history doesn't seem to support that argument."

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Surfman3748d ago

dominance begins in 2009 for the RPGs.

Montrealien3748d ago

yawn, you fanboys are very strange.

I will be enjoying the great RPG`s coming out on my 360/PS3/wii/DS/PsP in 08, and the ones coming out in 09,10,11......

In gaming pleasure, I dominate you! :p

Veryangryxbot3748d ago

Because otherwise, it cant be explained why people call the 360 "rpg land".

Look, 360 has 3-4 exclusive JRPGs. And you call that King? To top it off, these 3-4 rpgs are average to begin with.

King? pardon me, King? Hahaha, thats a good one, stupid kids. Come back when you have 25 exclusive JRPGs including the biggest, FF13. If that happens, I'll call the 360 RPG king myself!

Since its never going to happen, Ill continue to call the 360 TRASH.

You know how ridiculous you stupid kids sound? Youre the bum who found 10 bucks in the park and then you go and proclaim yourself to be a BILLIONAIRE before all the other homeless bums.

Fkin retarded! Fking pathetic shiat this is. These bots look far and wide for "arguments why 360 still has an edge over PS3" and they try too fking hard. The shiat they come up is so fking ridiculous that only emphasizes in what a fking hole the 360 is currently in.

Going down down baby!

LuHawk3748d ago

Because we do have an edge over the PS3 you dumb ass hoe

Chris3993748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

I just recently (last week) traded in a whole mess of games and purchased a 360 - along with Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Kingdom Under Fire: COD and Eternal Sonata.

Sure, I could get these games on my PS3 (which I kept, of course); but probably not for another year or two at best. And sorry, but Disgaea 3, Valkyria Chronicles and the vapour-ware that is FF XIII just aren't going to sustain me for that long.

Right now, I feel like a starving man at a buffet. Do yourself a favor and abandon the notion of "taking sides". Go where the games are. That's what I did, and it's glorious. You're missing some truly beautiful RPG experiences by limiting yourself to one system.

Right now, the 360 is satisfying my RPG needs moreso than even the PS2 did. The exclusives coming out on the PS3 will sustain my desire for other genres, but as far as RPGs go, the 360 is King (right now, and probably for a while if not for all of this gen).

Just my two cents.

Cheers,
- Chris

P.S. I have an extended in-store warranty and one of the new 175w chip-sets; so please keep the comments on topic and don't give me none of that RROD stuff :) The system I bought is providing me with some sweet RPGs now and in the foreseeable future (about one a month till the year's end). That's all the I, or anyone else, should really care about.

Montrealien3748d ago

(Do yourself a favor and abandon the notion of "taking sides". Go where the games are. That's what I did, and it's glorious. You're missing some truly beautiful RPG experiences by limiting yourself to one system. )

Could not of said it any better.

GiantEnemyCrab3748d ago

+Bub Well said and I know of a couple people who did the exact same thing.

The Gaming priest3748d ago

I love my Jrpgs so im gonna pick up BD,LO and eternal sonata. Also gonna get Mass effect as it looks to good to miss out on. Still playing mgs4 at the mo so im a happy gamer right now.

Can't wait :)

ip-student3748d ago

Starts a little slow and the combat isn't perfect but the more you do (focusing on the main mission), the more fun you start to have. The one big thing is that the game does a poor job of explaining how to be effective in combat. Once you figure it out things go pretty well.

ceedubya93748d ago

One the best posts I've seen all year. Well done.

lsujester3748d ago

As much as I hate my PS3 not having the vast number of quality RPG's that its predecessor did, I am at least glad my 360 is getting them.

So far, it seems that either MS is much more willing to pay out money for this exclusivity, or is at least outbidding Sony on them.

TheUsedVersion3748d ago

"Right now, the 360 is satisfying my RPG needs moreso than even the PS2 did"

Haha. You actually made me laugh with that bs/fanboy comment.

peksi3748d ago

Sounds more like you're talking about JRPGs. I'd like to see more western RPGs with PS3.

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fenderputty3748d ago

I don't see how anyone could disagree. Sony needs to get back on the ball and give us some damn RPG's. FFXIII and WKC start it all ... but when ....

CrazzyMan3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

well.. atleast for good ones.

1st x360 year:
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms

1st ps3 year:
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
Folklore

====================

2nd x360 year:
Blue Dragon
Eternal Sonata
Mass Effect

2nd ps3 year:
Disgaea 3
Valkyrie Chronicles
Eternal Sonata(?)
White Knight Story(?)

====================

3rd x360 year:
Lost Odyssey
Tales of Vesperia
Fable 2
Too Human
Infinite Undiscovery
Last Remnant

3rd ps3 year:
FFXIII(though it could be in 2nd year)
FFXIIIv
Last Remnant
Tears of Tiara
Cross Edge
+ some unnanounced

Dannagar3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

So, when are those games coming out for Playstation 3? And don't forget the following Xbox 360 RPGs:
Final Fantasy XI
Phantasy Star Universe
Two Worlds
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic Elements
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom

Operation Darkness
Spectral Force 3

Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
Alpha Protocol
Apocalypse: Desire Next
Fallout 3
Far East of Eden Ziria
The Precursors
Two Worlds: The Temptation
Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
Cry On
Elveon
The Lord of the Rings – The White Council
Dungeon Hero
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
Champions Online
+ some unannounced

In your comparison, you might make mention that Playstation 3 owners got their games a year later than Xbox 360 owners.

CrazzyMan3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

will add those ports and those other not worthy to mention games...

1st x360 year:
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
Final Fantasy XI
Phantasy Star Universe

1st ps3 year:
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
Folklore

====================

2nd x360 year:
Blue Dragon
Eternal Sonata
Two Worlds
Mass Effect

2nd ps3 year:
Disgaea 3
Valkyrie Chronicles
Eternal Sonata(?)
White Knight Story(?)
Two Worlds(?)
Fallout 3
Precursors

====================

3rd x360 year:
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic Elements
Lost Odyssey
Operation Darkness
Spectral Force 3: Innocent Rage
Tales of Vesperia
Fable 2
Too Human
Infinite Undiscovery
Fallout 3
Last Remnant
Precursors

3rd ps3 year:
FFXIII(though it could be in 2nd year)
FFXIIIv
Last Remnant
Tears of Tiara
Cross Edge
+ many unnanounced

Other RPGs are coming in 4th x360 year, and not all 3rd years ps3 rpg are known yet. =)
And yes, PS3 came 1 year later.

During 1st and 2nd x360 year, on PS2 were released these RPG:
Wild Arms 4
Grandia 3
Kingdom Hearts 2
Final Fantasy XII
Tales of Legendia
Valkyrie Profile 2
Tales of the Abyss
Suikoden V
Rogue Galaxy
Disgaea 2
Persona 3
Odin Sphere

So, those who wanted were busy with RPGs on PS2(PS3). =)

LaChance3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

Sony never promised you guys you would be getting RPG's galore.
Its not because it was like that last gen that it has to be the same every gen.
But I understand you guys.Imagine 360 owners buy the 720 and 2 years after launche , thers only a bunch of FPS's.Moreover all the best FPS4s are on PS4 and MSFT dont do a thing to fix tha.The xbox gamers would feel a bit "betrayed" ( FPS personnaly isnt my favoriye genre).

Anyway in my opinion it will stay like this for this entire gen.Simply because MSFT ahave already convinced the sport/FPS/action gamers to buy a 360.Now they need the RPG crowd and casuals.So they wont be giving up on the RPGS any time soon.

By the way , I was wondering why dont you gamers just get a 360 ? Its obvious you guys are starving for RPGS.RROD is still a problem but at least its down to 16 %?You got a 84 % chance it will never break down.Especially if youre europeen there really is no excuse to not get a 360 if youre a rpg fan.

....and why dont I get a PS3 ? Well , money doesnt grow on trees and honestly (with no biais) still not completely convinced by it , but I'll get one...one day.Ive always had at least 2 consoles by gen.

Drekken3748d ago

Now that you mention it... I feel so betrayed! lol

I dont own a 360 because numerous reasons... but:

A) Limited time to game - makes no sense to have 2 consoles
B) RROD sucks.
C) Paying for online play died when I quit WoW.
D) No exclusives really have my attention besides, MAYBE too human.
E) Money does not grow on trees!

edhe3748d ago

Seems like a gerat way to waste limited money & time.

O_o.

As per article - 'coming'? It's very apparent that the 360's got the RPGs. Typically the fodder of the ps2, this generation they're stoking up the MS side instead.

As i've said before, anyone expecting the same this generation as last generation (most of the best games on the playstation platform) is horribly mistaken.

Drekken3748d ago

I am VERY happy with my PS purchase. I am a customer that will pay more for something better. Name brand is not always worth the price, but some items are... and the PS3 is one of them.

MSG4 just came out and it the best thing since pong. This game blows ANY gaming experience the 360 has to offer this gen out the water. And as far as least games... I have plenty of games. Whenever I want to play a game, I have one ready to play. I dont know how many games YOU need... but I have plenty.

Go pay your live bill so you can play online.

okcomputer3748d ago

I agree with the op. I'm not a huge rpg fan, I usually just stick with ff and the occasional western rpg. But mass effect was decent, and while sonata, bd and lo were average rpgs and weren't worth it for me, they at least give gamers who like the genre an option.

Other than the mediocre folklore the ps3 has nothing to offer for the rpg fan. I wouldn't really call ffxiii "vapor ware" but it'll be a while until it hits the us. So yea I'd say the 360 is the console of choice for rpg fans right now.

And pls stop with the dumb live bashing. I have both consoles, and psn is so far behind live right now it isn't even funny. Its also dirt cheap and comes out to about 13 cents per day. Maybe after the next psn update with in game xmb and accomplishment tracking psn will narrow the gap, but right now theres really no comparison in the services.

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eagle213748d ago

I want revolutionary RPG's or definitive RPG's. For a 360 owner who never owned a Playstation or Nintendo system might be impressed by the current ones out. But I feel they are not anything to be gung ho about if you have played the ones they mentioned in the article.

Don't just rush RPG's for shelf bragging rights. :)

This article is more of a cry for help, they know damn well 360 is not dominating anything.

Montrealien3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

Eternal Sonata was one solid little RPG, so was Lost Odyssey. But that is only my opinion.

oh, and I own a 360 and have owned every sony and nintendo console. Your (360 owner who have not owned a nintendo or sony console) stereotype is just that, a stereotype.

LaChance3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

"I want revolutionary RPG's or definitive RPG's" , how many RPGS on the PS2 fit that description ?hmmmm...thought so.

By the way been a PS1 and PS2 gamer ( Im still quite young so grew up doing 90% of my gaming on PS ).

You semm to be sooooooooo brainwashed , its INCREDIBLE.I put you on the same level as LENHEART.Thats my honest opinion about you.

Even the hardest of fanboys seems normal from time to time.You just seem like a machine , some kinda Sony robot.

eagle213748d ago

Eternal Sonata is a solid RPG. So are the other ones. I am not knocking anything. This is my personal opinion, why are you taking it like it's the only opinion.

You just can't handle the truth that every game site has noted about the first party Microsoft RPG's.

Lachance, I don't even have an opinion about you. I could care less. Lenhart has nothing to do with me or you. You said what you said, I said what I said. No need to reply to my post. Go play Lost Odyssey and STFU.

Montrealien3748d ago

wait a minute, you don`t need a reply? or don`t want one? hehe

eagle213748d ago

How many 360 owners even own or care to play Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey??? LMAO

They got mediocre reviews because they WERE mediocre. Halo 3 fans did not want Blue Dragon last fall. We all know why.

Playstation 3, PSP, PS2 has or will have the best RPG's. NO DOUBT. I have already put FFXIII on pre-order on amazon. How many 360 owners even want to play FFXIII, VERSUS, or SO4?
I know those games will explode in sales on PS3!!

Montrealien3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

so eagle, you are a sony fanbot it seems. Where`s your PSN ID? I can`t see it in your profile. Add mine, killing fanboys in MGS4 is the funnest thing in the world.

And I agree, Blue Dragon was meh, but Lost odyssey was very fun and perfect to fill the hole of missing rpg`s till the big boys like FF13 and such come out.

eagle213748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

dozens of N4g gamers have my PSN.

You sure ain't getting it! I hope that is not your nice way of asking, FAIL.

How are you getting to use the B-word in the gamer zone? I think many have been banned for it. :)

@gaming priest below: Yeah, I got the memo about SO4. I was asking how many 360 owners will want SO4? Actually want to buy the damn game.

You are just trying to cause FUD because most 360 owners do not actually buy RPG's as of yet.

The Gaming priest3748d ago

SO4 is now a 360 exclusive didn't you get the memo??

Square enix have said right now S04 is a 360 exc and they don't know whether they wil make a Ps3 version at a later date.

This probbaly means its either a timed exc or That square don't want to put all there eggs in one basket with ff13 being on the ps3 exc at the moment.

I bet SO4 will be crap now huh? Hah Hah you fanboys change your opinions as much as the wind changes direction.

The Gaming priest3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

I smell a multi account loser....I wonder if ill miracolously lose a bubble now.. :)

Anyways im getting a 360 this month(already own a PS3) for the "half baked" rpgs that you mention as well as S04(which u also mentioned lol),last remnant(te) and tales of vesparia and fall out 3(te)

Do your self a favour if you like rpgs get a 360 this year. On the other hand you could wait for WKS and ff13 to finally emerge i prefer to play then wait. :)

eagle213748d ago

Thank you for the sarcasm. Thank you for assuming. Thank you for bringing up non-topic ideas like so many others do.

The entire time, I made no reference to buying a 360. I don't care who owns what. Even SO4. That game is not even out till 2009, just like many other RPG's on 360 or PS3 that we are ALL waiting for. I made no reference to bubbles or fanboys. But, you and your little peeps just love to disrupt.

One thing I despise about n4g are peoples assumptions. I will never buy systems out of sympathy or settling. "Well since Blue Dragon is out, might as well spend $460 to play this mediocre game." LOL...

I can't wait to play WKS. Enjoy your blue dragon, don't hurt yourself now. :)

juuken3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

The Gaming priest, Star Ocean 4 isn't a 360 exclusive. Square never said it was an exclusive to begin with, unless MS threw some cash in their face some time ago. If they did, then please show me a link in which they said that?

And you know what?

You should be banned from the Gamer Zone. eagle brought up some interesting points in his argument and he did not need someone like you ganging up on him. I don't care whether you're a 360 fan or a Sony fan. That doesn't give you the right to attack him just because of his opinion.

We are ALL waiting for rpg's at the moment. Some of MS's rpg's probably won't make it this year. Some of Sony's rpg's won't make it out this year either. It depends on what Square is planning on doing. For now, I wouldn't crown MS as the king of rpg's yet. Let's wait until the end of the year shall we?

eagle213748d ago

Nice little 4 letter and three letter words in there so you can understand.

I put you in the category of POG, Mart, and Giantenemycrabs. Delusional, Manic, and honorary members of the xboxkings.

Montrealien3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

"For a 360 owner who never owned a Playstation or Nintendo system might be impressed by the current ones out."

That's was the "assumption" that sparked my first reply...A reply wich you though was not needed.

"How many 360 owners even own or care to play Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey??? LMAO"

That was the second "assumption" that caused me to get so worked up you asked me to calm down. We know there are not many but there are people that enjoyed and cared for BLue Dragon, it even managed to sell around 200k in Japan alone, and that says a lot, concidering there are just over 500 thousand 360s there and a sequel is on the way.

You do seem to be among the less volatile Playstation enthusiasts here so I'll refrain from being an arse with you. However no matter what anybody says, Microsoft is trying. Sony stumbled on this whole role of the console of JRPG's because Nintendo made the blunder of not going the CD route over 10 years ago. My point in the end is that if you have both a 360 and a PS3, it is win win for you, if you stick to one waiting for games to come out, you will miss on some great RPGs.

I'll ask nicely this time, would you pretty please with a cherry on top, add me to your friends list?

@juuken

I just noticed your PSN is in your profile...

*runs off to add juuken to his list* ;D

eagle213748d ago

I used the word "might" be impressed. I didn't say they are impressed.

No harm done. I know you are coming from a good place.

In japan, they have many JRPG's out and coming this summer on PS3. The US doesn't yet. That is the only dilema. I want to see White Knight Story at E3 and other RPG announcements like every n4g gamer does.

We have to all agree that we want ALL our RPG's and JRPG's to kick ass! We want them to wow us. They have to live up to high standards of the ones before them. Right? Enjoy the ones out already, but don't settle for them. The best RPG's are yet to come. For PS3 and 360.....

juuken3748d ago

Montrealien, I shall add you then! :3

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