Things that needs to be considered in the next installment to the franchise.
The only way to save it is to reboot it and start all over again with the mansion. You can't save what RE6 did to the overall story and characters. Best thing to do is remake-reboot it and tell a different, alternative story which goes down a different path. Same characters, similar story, different outcome.
Hopefully the Remaster can pave the way to a remake of Resident evil 2 and Resdient evil 3 . That way we will not need a reboot . Maybe change the events of Resident evil 4,5,6.
Well you could change the events of RE4 if they change the events of something "tiny" in the first game. The Butterfly Effect, change one small thing in the past and it could drastically change the future. As I've said before, if they made a remake of the first RE but like the remake of Gamecube, they add even more rooms, more enemies, bit more backstory of certain things, more dialogue etc but then at the very end make it so the mansion doesn't blow up then it could change the entire course of history. If the mansion dosen't blow up then Zombies/experiments will end up wandering into Raccoon City, the outbreak will happen earlier maybe just when STARS get back from the mansion and they are still in the city, Leon arrives when the city is under lock down and can't get it but sneaks in with Claire because she wants to find Chris and decides to help her (being the good guy he is), Ada then tags along because she wants to find her "boyfriend" John. I mean that right there changes everything and that's only for Resident Evil 2. By the time we get to Resident Evil 4 with the plagas you could easily write the plagas out.
I honestly doubt they can ever bring back the glory of RE...it became so diluted and lost in its own meaning that I truly believe this franchise is beyond saving. Even if they went back and made it scary, filled with hard puzzles in a mansion like environment we would still complaint of being the same old thing we played 15+ years ago and that its too hard and irrelevant by today's standards... The truth is we gamers dont know what we want..most of the time. For me RE surrendered its guns with RE4 and on. It would take a miracle to save it in my eyes.
-Foxtrot The first RE had 2 endings, or 4, if you count the 2nd character. In any case, when STARS Members arrived to the mansion, Raccoon City was already reporting cases of people bitten by Dog's and Zombies. The Remaster will bring nothing new. It's the Gamecube game with better definition. They added some new rooms and enemies comparative to the original (PS1). So expect the same game. RE2 and RE3 happens at the same time, if done right, they could remake the two games in one. RE Veronica was Awesome and I liked RE4, it was different but kept a lot of the mystic that RE had. Revelations was a back to the past, but it could be better. Right now, I'm completely disappointed with Capcom and the Resident Evil franchise. So my expectations are at minimum levels. I'm pretty sure that the next one (probably Revelations 2) will ruin the good things the 1st had.
sell it to cd projekt red?
I'd actually prefer if the reboot focused on all new characters with a whole new storyline, that way its not really a rehash of the same thing
No, they need to end the current characters. And start with an entirely new cast, starting after Leon, Chris and everyone's story is over. Give one final game to tie up the current story, and then kick off a new group. No Wesker, no one even relating to Wesker, all new.
man you re in my mind the exact thought ihad also ...the Resident evil Series should be remade from the start even from the first game with the same chars and similar story...to be honest i didnt even liked some changes on RE remake (the red zombies and Lisa specifically)...they just need to look back to very 1st game(the best for me) and repeat his features...(no Hollywod cliche filter for colors, no presidents daughters ,no Lisa and other sick girl cliche,no QTE, no enemies wiht guns, no super villains, no over-whatever-grotesque monsters etcetc) ,,Resi 1 it was good and atmospheric beacause it was grounded and had a sense of realism...they need to repeat that
I completely agree. A reboot is 100% necessary and the "remastered" gamecube version is 100% a waste of time. Capcom ... wtf?
Throw it a life preserver.
a talented developement team is above all and judging by resi 6, they're not the same devs anymore
Actually have zombies. No gun/weapon wielding infected. Limited ammo so its little more intense rather than shooting everything in sight. Also puzzles.
I just want Chris and Leon to sit this one out. Focus on other characters like Rebecca, maybe Sheva and Josh could come back (im probably in the minority, i really liked Sheva and Josh), or even Sherry and/or Claire. And please, no forced co-op and bring horror back.
I just bought RE6 on sale at Steam for $12 and I still feel like I overpayed a bit tbh..
-Zombies (The Whole Game) -Bring back Steve, Claire, Billy, and Barry -Remaster Resident Evil 0. 1. 2. 3. and Code Veronica -Make 7 a direct sequel to Code Veronica, making 5 and 6 non-canon -Keep the survival horror of Resident Evil (No B-Movie action gameplay, no QTE's, keep limited ammo) - Don't make your characters have steroid appearance. - Bring back Resident Evil 1 formula - Make a new sequel series starting with 7 to tie in all the surviving characters of 0-Code Veronica into a future storyline. - No paid on disc DLC - Listen to fan feedback - PROFIT!
No Resident Evil game has been exclusively zombies. Even the original titles had other monsters in them.
Exactly Honestly, i'm getting tired with this complaint about 'zombies are not zombies' and it's a stupid reason to hate the game when we barely know anything about the new enemies.
I don't care if zombies are zombies in the next game, just as long as they don't have ranged weapons. I want to be afraid of getting bitten or having a leg chopped, not of being shot at...
remaster all the old games? fans accuse capcom of not having any original ideas. does 5 & 6 canon really matter that much? but i guess you do have a point. b movie action? sounds very like the original. but anyway agree on survival horror and limited ammo. steroid appearance, we dont give a crap about that. chris bulking up to fight wesker? why not? what is re1 formula? tank controls? fixed camera? limited mobs? focus on atmosphere? need to expand. listen to fan feedback? hell no, fan feedback is not a way to go. some can do well, but big franchises with lots of fans dont work. hear of the phrase "a camel is a horse designed by a committee" ok, not trying to go against you or anything. just arguing why i didnt like some of the things you mentioned.
I'm not among those fans that accuse Capcom of recycling. I would love for them to remaster the original Resident Evil games as I feel it is a step in the right direction for the series. I don't want 5 and 6 to be canon because I absolutely hated them. I don't know if it makes a difference but I have been a fan of Resident Evil since RE1, and have beaten every Resident Evil with the exception of the Survivor spinoffs. I don't like the fact that the game doesn't have zombies anymore and the fact that Resident Evil 6 had the balls to pull a "bait and switch" with them in Leon's story. You're right about Resident Evil not always having zombies, but it does at the same time. They aren't the only enemy you encounter in the game, but they are the basic low tier enemies in each game. There's usually always zombies, a Cerberus (zombie dogs), a Tyrant boss (Mr.X,Prototyrant from 0, T-001 from RE 1, Hunters in late game. The first game was more like B-Movie Horror, considering the game was heavily inspired by George A. Romero's films and originally George A. Romero was wanting to do the script for the game. Yeah, the over saturation of ammo in Resident Evil 6 is appalling to true fans of the series. It's just stupid in my opinion, all that character progression and reinforcement to Chris, and Jill and Wesker just to turn into some retarded over the top fight above a Volcano where Chris can punch boulders and beats Wesker with an RPG. It was pretty bad. I know at the end of most Resident Evil games you get an RPG thrown to you and use it to destroy the end boss, but 5 was retarded. They could of brought Steve back, as was hinted in the end of Code Veronica after the Chris vs Wesker fight, and made him a Tyrant with the Code Veronica virus but instead went with the abomination that is 5. The original story and concept for 5 was a lot better than the game was. http://www.relyonhorror.com... What is Resident Evil formula? Have you only play 4-6? Zombies, Jump Scares, Fixed Camera, Limited Ammo, No Handholding, Backtracking, Learning Curve, Ominous Atmosphere, Unlockables based on skill and clear time, and Tank Controls. If you beat any of the older Resident Evil games (before 4) in under a certain time limit you got guns and costumes and extra gear for your New Game + playthrough. For example if you beat Resident Evil 1 in under 5 hours you unlocked the RPG, you unlocked Barry Burton's custom 9mm handgun the Samurai Edge if you beat the game in under 8 hours. It added replayability and made speed runs rewarding. It's not you HK but it just really grinds my gears when new fans who don't have any appreciation for the older games come in and act like they know the series and what it needs. Hopefully enough people buy Resident Evil 1 Remastered in January, and that encourages Capcom to Remaster the rest and respect the fact that we want Resident Evil to be Resident Evil, not Gears of War/ Uncharted hybrid with Resident Evil Characters (RE5 & 6).
good to hear what you actually think in detail. the biggest problem capcom has is an identity crisis with re. its been through so many games with so many characters, stories and gameplay style that its hard to define what is good. re4 changed re and made it more relevant than the old style. but it also brought many terrible things along with it. only thing capcom can do now is either makes something that sells or make something that the original fans would like. i guess we can only wait for revelations 2 to come oit and see how well that does.
Remaster RE4, that I will buy.
Already done.... (Digital Only, in EU/NA)
Try making it more scary limited ammo and optional co op but honestly I want local co op because its fun with family.
Just make a walking dead horror tps survival game(not telltales slow glitchy game) and forget resident evil. I want to survive like Rick Grimes and his crew.
This^ I actually thought Resi 1 and 2 were pretty close to that formula (limited ammo, limited herbs, tough zombies/monsters, never feeling safe etc), and then Resi 5 became infinite ammo, herbs, and zombies that only take 1 bullet to go down... GO BACK TO THE SURVIVAL GAME CRAPCOM!!
Revelations 2 got a lot of hate with silly reason, when capcom trying to fulfill the fans request. So, one thing capcom only do for RE 7 is: don't listen to the fans. No matter what capcom do than this 'fans' will never satisfy. There's always something to hate or brag and impossible to please them all.
its tough to please fans. do you aim to please fans of the original? or do you please fans of the second which was clearly more action oriented. the 4th which changed everything? the 5th that added co-op and sold a bucket load? they need a good director to choose his direction from the start and not to listen to fans reactions. secondly make a damn good game. if the game is good then gamers would understand.
"secondly make a damn good game" This is what i'm trying to say. Just make the best RE they can think of without limiting themself to fans request.
"Every Resident Evil should come in the episodic game format", said no one ever. And as far as I know, that is the main reason (if not the only one) behind the hate.
RE already used episodic / chapter format since RE 4 and back then i don't see anyone complaint about it. Revelations 1 also used episodic format and once again i don't see people complaint about it. Not to mention games like Siren and TWD also used episodic format but people praise sony & Telltale for doing it. So the hate isn't make sense when Capcom themself will release a retail version of Revelations 2 one month after they released all episode, with reasonable price too ($40, not $60).
Without any fan input They might as well make a game version of those Crap Milla Jovovich films! I agree with you about Revelations 2 however, that game looks GREAT! Revelations 1 is the best modern resident evil game I have faith in #2.
Revelations isn't trying to fulfill ANY fans requests at all. We ask for Claire, they give us a way older one. We ask for Barry, they give us her daughter. We ask for Zombies and survival horror, they give us a sequel to what felt like a Spanish soap opera with Silent Hill rejected enemies. Don't get me wrong Revelations was a lot better than 5 and 6, but anything is these days. I guess at the end of the day Ca$hcom doesn't like money just like Square Enix, because if they did they would act accordingly and make something people want not tell us we want it or try to force something we don't want. (Xbox One)
"We ask for Claire, they give us a way older one" Than why are you guys not asking for YOUNGER Claire? All i can seen is "give us Claire" or "we want Claire back". Not a single request that asking for "give us Claire while she's still young". FYI, in Degenaration she's 26 and she already looks old in there. "We ask for Barry, they give us her daughter." I want new character and i'm glad they gave me one. Beside, we still didn't know if Barry not show up at all. "We ask for Zombies and survival horror, they give us a sequel to what felt like a Spanish soap opera with Silent Hill rejected enemies" From the screenshots and trailer i didn't seen a big michael bay explosion or the setting took in broad daylight. So for me it looks survival horror enough. RE is about virus and BOW, NOT zombies. I dare you to find a RE game where capcom only put zombies as the enemies and no hunter, licker, dogs, crow, tyrant, nemesis, giant shark, giant worm, giant spider, etc. And every single RE is like a crappy spanish soap opera or B-horror movies. You must be crazy if you think they're not, especially after watching RE 1 opening movie http://www.youtube.com/watc... "Don't get me wrong Revelations was a lot better than 5 and 6, but anything is these days" Than you choose they didn't make a single RE game anymore? SMH, you guys should stop complaining and start making your own video game.
"...what captured audiences about that first game had to do with the relative simplicity of its narrative. Kind of like a good Stephen King novel, it was a ‘situation’ sort of game. ‘People trapped in a giant house with zombies." Couldn't possible agree more!
a few things i can think of that would please original fans. dont make it so action oriented, i dont need to be fighting 10+ enemies in one area. i mean you can easily counter this by limiting ammo. no co-op. co op tends to focus on action and never focuses on story or atmosphere. the old script for re5 before co op was added seemed very interesting, though im. ot sure if it felt interesting because it was never in the game or if it was actually that good. scrap the mission structure. no life regen or even deaths. make every move accountable for. originals had you saving your process, so everytime you got hit or used a bullet after that was painful. single player focus. i know its same as no co op. but single player focus allows downtime. allows players to walk in their own pace. we dont need zombies in every room. running around and backtracking was also fun. thats enough from me.
Maybe they should start by bringing back the 'This game contains scenes of violence and gore' screen at the beginning of the game. That screen alone got me ready for some survival horror :)
Yeah i cant believe i forgot that even though i finished the trilogy almost 3 months ago and Dino Crisis 1 and 2 .... i want Dino Crisis back :(
Dino Crisis was awesome! :D Although I've finished the 2nd, didn't like it that much. Like I didn't like RE6 :P
Dino Crisis was the best, i played it when *ahem* underage *ahem* and the T-Rex smashing his head through the office window scared the hell out of me... i couldnt play it for 3 months haha
There's only one way to save it: not producing it!
One way to save it is to make Rebecca a main character again. I'm so fing tired of the same characters back and forth and dumb ass newcomers that have nothing to do with the old games. Bring back Rebecca and Billy.
clearly Capcom make RE 2 Seires revelations series - survivor horror oriented main series - action oriented
Your correct and Incorrect there I didn't find revelations that scary or survival horror oriented and as for the main series RE1-CVx horror survival based RE4-6 Action based
In order to fix something You must first know what the problem is, In Resident evils Case The Problem is GREED. Capcom is a corporate monster now and follows many of they're common practices, such as Ego in a competitive sense, "We must have what cod has and any other big third person shooter". An eagerness to please "Every fan has they're favorite character hell lets throw them all in!" expanding to different platforms such as Those "SHIT films" Making things off an assembly line, "Yes lets green light RE 6! RE5 was the highest seller in RE's history, just do that again but bigger!" From a business standpoint Its Stupid and idiotic to go back to what "we" the niche fans love, it would be Corporate suicide. Its only now that big titles such as the last of us with its "slow and creepy gameplay can be hip again", influence Capcom's decision to now incorporate that feeling into Resident evil Revelations 2.
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