MWEB GameZone writes: "While Sony is celebrating it's continuing good fortunes with the launch of Destiny, Microsoft offers feeble excuses as to why it's no longer revealing it's consoles sales figures."
well, who's surprised
No one really. But would have then rather just ignored the question. I think every gets why MS isn't showing the numbers. It makes them look bad. But to say the sales up till no matter? In the words of Aaron Paul:"Bitch, please?"
They should just shut up and not try to downplay the situation. It's when they offer stupid excuses like "This the pre-season! Derp!" the ends up biting them later on when they lose.
"Dear Investors, we didn't get a significant sales boost, so to prevent you any discomfort, we will purposefully neglect to report on it so you don't get discouraged and do the unthinkable, like sell our stock and buy Sony stock" ~ Schmuck Executives at Microsoft
I was in the cue at midnight for this game on PS4, about a third of the people attending were picking Destiny up alongside a white PS4. I'd say about another third were getting it for XBOX ONE, then another third were getting the regular or Vanguard PS4 versions of the game. I didn't see anyone pick up an XBOX ONE console, with the game.
Yet last generation Aaron Greenburg blew up twitter continuously regardless of what time of the year it was over NPD numbers, spin worldwide figures with how many sniper shots were fired in COD, dlc was downloaded, hours played on XBL, etc and so on. Now this generation he is mute and comes up with lame excuses as to why. If MS has even one solid week of sales over Sony he will once again run to twitter and start blowing it up. I'm wondering if it will happen when MCC is released but I have my doubts that is will cause a significant boost in sales if TitanFall and Destiny didn't. They are both brand new IP's from AAA portfolio developers. So I don't see how an enhanced version of older Halo games will cause much of a dent in consoles sold. It might have been different if all the older Halo games were remastered for with this generation graphics. Than again if MCC doesn't give MS a significant boost, even if short lived, what will? Aaron is right on one front. This holiday season will be very telling. Personally I think MS has to make a significant move whether it's a sizable price drop or a substantial bundle significantly discounted. They have to do something to stay in this because right now Sony isn't walking away with it. They are running away with it and Sony hasn't really released any of their big guns yet. Next year Sony has probable AAA games coming out every 6 to 8 weeks next year. MS has to find a way to increase sales or hope Sony somehow starts to slow down. If not by this time next year I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Sony is ahead 3 to 1 worldwide vs their current ratio of 2 to 1.
@gaming101 Lol, sell MS stock for sony stock. The only thing making sony money is playstation (even though as a company they aren't making any) . If it wasn't for that, their losses would be twice the size. Yet the xbox is one of the only things not making microsoft boatloads of cash. You would be foolish to trade MS stock for sony stock based off of video game performance when one company has posted 1 quarterly loss in it's history and one has lost big the last 5+ years http://www.phonearena.com/n... Just for those of you that question what I said. I know I will get a tonne of disagrees for showing the truth. Whatever
Ridiculous headline purely to spark flame wars. How did this article get approved?
from the marketing manager of xbox? damn i never thought they would dare!
There is no doubt they are hiding the numbers because they are bad. The thing that is most funny is that we've seen this poor tactic before. With Sony regarding Blu-ray. I'm sure some of the same people criticizing it now, couldn't seem to get it when it was Sony hiding bad numbers. But as I said with Blu-ray the numbers must be terrible. I was right with Blu-ray. Though I don't believe One is doing as bad, it still has to be pretty dismissal.
Boody-Bandit is so right. God I got sick of the numbers game. I think the numbers game is crap no matter which side it's from. I want all good gaming companies to be healthy and making great games, but this numbers argument, chest thumping BS is lame.
@ChronoJoe I seen 1 guy with a new Xbox One standing in line just before midnight to get Destiny. I cant comment on how many picked up the White PS4 Destiny bundle as I was first in line and rushed straight home to play my copy. I did notice however that the queue for xbox was a little bigger then the playstation one. Even the manager mentioned that they had a few more pre orders for the xbox one version. But my local EB games is probably in a minority there.
@Kribwalker Although what you wrote is based on reality, in some sense, I cant help by remind you since you obviously forgot the fact that this here aint Bloomberg its N4G. To say we don't give a shit about stock prices and shareholder happiness index doesn't begin to cover it. So please give it a rest, thanks.
its Aaron Greenberg who made that comment... im out, waste of my time.
I don't see why you guys are freakin out, MS is just doing what any college student would do. Not look at their bank account because the amount they know they'll see is either really low or in the negatives. hahaha
We all know when a week comes up that X1 outsells the PS4 there will be tweets all around. Even if that happens outside holiday season. MS should step their game up or give the X1 another price cut. 250 euros did very well for the Wii.
I want to feel bad for Microsoft but they brought this on themselves. Anyways, congratulations to Sony. Oh, and Kribwalker, that's a Motorola article. Not sure what Motorola has to do with Sony financials but whatever makes you sleep better at night. Everyone knows about Sony's financial situation, but they are gradually getting out of it. That doesn't mean their gaming division isn't thriving. Btw, if Sony wasn't making money, they'd be out of business already. You're not an investor so stop pretending that you are.
Sony's stock/debt-rating is rated "junk" by Moody's as of Jan 2014. However they have a market cap of $20.23 billion so they are liquid and as such have been parting with assets, divisions (the loss leaders)and of course massive layoffs to improve their financial position. Stock price went as high as $21.94 per share in a 52 week period and is currently $19.38 And I am an investor. http://finance.yahoo.com/q;... http://money.cnn.com/2014/0...
Stop downplaying their success with their financials. They're not going out of business anytime soon.
OldDude, do you buy products based on the stock prices of the companies that make them? O.o People clearly want what PS4 is offering more than they want what XB1 is offering. That could change in the future, but your entire stock price comment is meaningless unless it's purpose was to make XB fans feel better in some vague way.
The only bundle available is pushing the only console offering it? Blown away. Who could have fortold this insane anomaly in basic mathmatics? Haha To be fair I did see quite a few people buy a few Xboxs yesterday when i went in to pay off my copy of Destiny.
It's hardly a surprise but makes me wonder how well the XBO is really doing.
Who cares? The X1 will be getting the far better game in Halo: MCC.
Really not surprised, MS has always been sketchy with sales numbers when something doesn't take off aswell as they would have liked (most companies are)
Judging from some comparison videos, I can see why people are going for Destiny on PS4....looks prettier :)
who are you and what have you done with Holden??
oh my god HoldanZA has seen the light i cant believe this welcome brother lets us drink and celebrate you spoke the truth
It looks the same on both lol
RIP Xbox. In all seriousness though most of the streamers for Destiny were on PS4, ranting about the games graphics apologizing to viewers that the stream goes as high as 720p with their capture cards.
Lol at Microsoft's response haha
I wanna hear their winter response "Everyone is snowed in/its too cold to go out and buy game systems"
Hahaha that would be funny and sad at the same time
They'll blame slow sales on snow flakes, blizzards, and frigid temperatures before they admit they need to provide more support for the gaming side of the console instead of focusing on apps. They just don't get it. No one buys a "video game system" to watch television shows and movies for 2 to 6 hours a day. I don't even think Microsoft fans can admit that to themselves.
next they'll blame islamic state for slow sales
Rofl that someone used Zaire aka nxtgen720 Xbox fanboy presidents pic and made up new name Lieaire to ask that question to Aaron Greenberg.
Wow,this game got boring real quick
Nothing is more boring than a troll comment like yours.
Wow, things are looking bad for Microsoft.
What a party Sony is throwing. Well deserved in my opinion. On the otherhand, shame on you Greenberg for that silly tweet.
Agreed, well deserved. That tweet was not a smart idea!
So a combination of 2 articles one from Aaron Greenberg a few days ago with one from today to draw in the clicks seem like a desperate tactic for hits.
What's the internal resolution of both console versions?
Heh, Microsoft will be like: "We've successfully sold 100% of our consoles to people who bought them."
That was funny as hell and perfectly represents Microsoft double-talk. Bubble up!
Sometimes it's hard to believe that a professional marketing executive comes up with quotes like this. It's twitter, he could have taken his time to give the right response, but no...he comes in all arrogant like a know it all.How come it hasn't been slow for Playstation this summer? It's statements like these that keep MS in the frying pan of journalists and gamers.
Maybe he was drunk at the time. Trying to drown his sorrows of the console he's charged with promoting.
Can these articles stop. Leave the corps alone and stop arguing. Who cares about hardware sales. Doesnt make the hardware bad it just means more gamers are missing out on certent exclusives. Just remember the N64 vs PS sales. I owned both and I can tell u my N64 was used heaps more. I know gaming is for kids but didnt think forums would be full of them.
In what decade are u living in that you think gaming is for kids? Also, if gaming is for kids, why would you expect to see adults spending their free time discussing things like console sales in a video game forum? You sir, make no sense.
You used your N64 more because that's you, didn't make a difference on 105 million PS1 users vs 32 million N64s.
Exactly my point, I had way more fun on my N64 (32 million sold) over my PS1 (105 million sold) and if I had to pick one console for that gen then its the N64. I am not speaking for everyone but goes to show you that console sales mean nothing when it comes to quality of a product. N64 had more exclusive hits and some of the greatest games of all time yet sales figures shows it was least popular.
I like your perspective regarding the lesser XB1 sales doesn't mean it's a bad console. However, reporting on sales is still news and MS lack of response is concerning
This site is hilarious. It doesn't even bother to disguise itself as a balanced site. Both consoles are great (and will do great) in their own ways, but that 'opinion' will be ignored while the above opinion gets 460 degrees. Shocker.
Welcome to n4sony
There are more PS fans than XB fans at this moment in gaming history, but you want N4G to pretend that's not the case just to make you feel better? This isn't a news organization that needs to appear balanced. It's not even a gaming site that puts out it's own articles. It's a bunch of links submitted by users.
Just look at the above comment about ms stock to get sony stock that's a completely illogical thing to say and that's guy got ton of agrees. I heard ppl say Ill destiny for Xbox one and he gets disagree. Clearly u have to be blind not to see this site with pro sony. Type in google n4sony and this site shows up lol.
Excuse me, care to explain this, "doesn't even bother to disguise itself as a balanced site." Did you do your homework son? Obviously not since in that same day we published a very "pro" XB1 article as well. So what does this make us then? Pro PS4 or pro XB1? It's news, we are reporting on news. on both consoles
i always thought the bet on the wrong horse titanfall over destiny
Destiny is on Xbox one.
Well it's obvious people went out and bought the Destiny cologne.
Slow summer...? More like Cruel Summer...! Greenberg aint just bananas; he's Bananaramas. LOL.
Admittedly late to the party, grabbed my white PS4 yeasterday and a copy of Destiny. I was worried the controller might not be great for FPS gaming but few hours with it and I'm very happy. Really happy with the console, controller and Destiny, quick mention to Diablo 3 as its so nice on PS4 too. Game on!
Welcome to gamers heaven
Nice work buddy, the controller is perfect and it has a great dead zone for FPS games. Hope you have all the great experiences you want from it, because I know I have so far. Also a well said bubble up for joining the community, hope to see you online :)
Destiny will move 1 million plus PS4's for sure. MS should see some sales as well especially with the promotional they have at Gamestop where you get a free game with a console purchase. Hard to try and compete with PS4 - it is a goliath right now and doesnt look to be slowing down anytime soon. As I have said b4 I am willing to bet PS4 will have 13 to 15 million consoles sold by January 2015. They are on a hell of a roll. MS will propably be around 7 to 9 million by then with all the games they have this fall and their global launch in new territories.