Tony from Twinfinite writes: While certainly successful, the Xbox One is lagging behind the Playstation 4 in console sales. What can Microsoft to do catch up?
Catch up? People are really expecting the weakest brand console that has never won first place to somehow make the biggest comeback in console history? Denial is indeed strong with some.
From a purely sales perspective, I don't really see the Xbox one ever catching up. The Ps4 just has too much momentum and it's only getting stronger. What MS needs to do is just worry about bringing quality IP to please the fanbase that they do have.
This If they bring enough interesting titles with enough variety, ppl will eventually become more interested in buying an Xb1. Oh and also, refrain from implementing stuff like the ''always online'' thingy. Just keep it simple, no edgy business practices
The article suggests ignoring the 1080p debate. How does that do anything to improve sales? Sure it's best they ignore it but that won't help win sales. Software will help. Reducing the price will help. Investing and convincing gamers with unique software only on the Xbox One will help. Even then I don't see them beating the PS4. They just don't have that worldwide appeal. Maybe they can win back the US but that alone will be difficult enough.
The only way for ms to close the gap is for sony to start hitting their market saturation point first. Then those same consumers will fill their buying need with the xb1 and wiiu. Thats not going to happen for at least 6-7 years.
It's already too late. Better luck next time.
or!!!!!-they-can-just-give-up GAME-OVER-for-MS-it-was-DEAD- from-the-Beginning-out-the-gate .
IMO Xbox needs to stop thinking on how to catch up and start thinking on a long-term view: creating future first-party studios, slow but steadily building fanbase on various genres not just shooter, and stop being jack-of-all-trades and start focusing on what sells game console the most.
I can't reply directly to MrPink2013, but the reason I said to ignore the 1080p debate is because the console is less powerful, they need to focus on other aspects that they excel at (like the "Xbox Experience")--not waste time in a losing battle.
Yep sales wise it's a done deal simply because unlike Sony last gen. They don't have Japan/Europe/Rest of the world to rely on. Sony is beating them in basically every country both are in already. OT - Things mentioned in this piece won't be enough to change the sales gap but the last two points are good and something that they should indeed continue/do to keep XB1 owners satisfied.
The XB1 is doomed all gen to either be dead last, or at best second place. The only way the XB1 could ever possibly catch up would be below: 1. Be more powerful than the PS4, thus gaining the multiplat and performance edge on games 2. Have a huge amount of AAA exclusives which trumps the PS4's offerings in number and in quality Obviously both of those are impossible (at least this gen). XB1 will always be less powerful than the PS4, and the Xbox brand has always been weak on exclusives. PS4 has this gen locked down, the XB1 is not even in the same league. XB1 is competing with the Wii U, not the PS4.
I think people just have to accept that the XB1 will never catch up to the PS4. This doesn't mean that its a bad system it just means that people have to temper their sales expectations with it.
I think all they can do at this point is just focus on the games and genuinely invest in the industry and it's developers. And that doesn't mean going out and spending money to block 3rd games from coming to other platforms that were already in development.
It's GAME OVER!!! Microsofts battle ship has been sunk people should just enjoy what XB1 brings and hopefully Ms learns from their mistakes for next gen.
their big exclusives haven't even launched yet.
Thats true but how popular would Ms exclusives have to be to get them infront of Sony and theirs? I don't see it happening but it won't stop me from enjoying XBOX this gen in the slightest starting with FH2.
pretty much NOTHING has launched yet atleast nothing that makes people crazy to play not even the greatly hyped Destiny doesn't make everyone go running into a store and buy a console.
PlayStations biggest exclusives haven't launched yet either, not to mention VR which may encourage a whole new market to join. Xbox just doesn't have as much planned for the future of their console except for the usual Halo/Gears combo
Do people genuinely believe Xbox One has a chance of catching up with the PS4's lead? Do they really? If they do, they might need some help. It would take a colossal f**k up from Sony to turn people away from their brand for that to happen. And it also would take more than a temporary sales spike each year for that to happen, which would be around the time Halo or Gears come out. It would have to outsell the PS4 by roughly 50K per week, for well over 60 consecutive weeks to outsell it worldwide. That's not happening. So time to face that the stronger global brand will be leading this gen until the end because they are more focused, recognised, with strong mind share, and are making more of an effort globally for their console, and they have more games, with features that are more desirable to gamers than non-gamers. Next year is almost a slaughter in terms of exclusive games, so the momentum is not really slowing down at any point. And if the gap gets any bigger (which it likely will), the developer support is just going to go through the roof. At this stage, Microsoft just needs to bring out some epic games and their fanbase enjoy what they bring.
PS4's probably going to sell at least 15 million units by the end of this year, to just meet that number in 60 weeks and assuming Xbox One has sold 5 million units to date Xbox One would have to sell over 166K a week more than whatever the PS4 sells every week. Considering the Xbox One has been outsold constantly for something like 7 months globally unless every multiplat starts performing better again on Xbox this generation and MS gets the sales there or they prove they can match or even exceed Sony in the quality, quantity and variety of exclusives they bring it's not happening this generation. As you say Sony has an abundance of exclusives announced for next year, with many 1st party developers having been quiet and still one major games conference left for this year and they're already gearing up for their 2016 line-up. The only real area that Microsoft challenges Sony in is online and Sony has already said they're planning major improvements to PSN. With the capital they're likely to raise from selling software, profiting off of hardware and new streams of income from services like PS Plus they will have plenty of cash to reinvest in both their network and even more exclusive games later on. IMO this generation is a done deal with Sony winning just by continuing to do what they are now and what they have done in the past. If they're winning without any major exclusives on the market, when they do come out sales are only going to sky rocket to a point where Sony will probably be beating Microsoft by the very amount every week that Microsoft will need to be outsell Sony by just to match them. Any idea of beating Sony on the sales side of things should be banished from people's minds. If Microsoft are serious about continuing then they just need to be consumer friendly, none of this anti-consumer nonsense, like buying up 3rd party franchises or developers known for multiplats that are on practically every platform. They need to respect their intended market, bring their own games, build their own studios, invest in 2nd and 3rd party exclusives that are new IPs, unless it's a dying franchise that would otherwise be gone without their investment and help.
Best they can do is second place console war is over PS4 won.
The ps3 could've launched with DVD and the ps4 could've launched with a cdrom drive and Microsoft still would've lost. The xbox one will never catch up to the ps4 in sales even if they buy Naughty Dog and they make the best game ever.
Buying Sony is the only they'll catch up. This war ended long ago when MS committed brand suicide with the Xbone reveal.
That would be an incredible moment when that fanbase discovered the console they hated and bad mouth turned out to be parent company of the console they glorify. Talk about joy in something like happening.
Speaking of MS moneyhatting, I'm hearing MS is now trying to buy the rights of Minecraft for $2 billion. It's really sad that MS has to buy their way into success rather than creating success.
Great news for xbox fans though. :)
I think what you mean to say, 'Great news for MS, bad news for gamers'.
Imagine how many brand new AAA IPs could be funded with 2 billion? This is why I thoroughly dislike MS and the way they conduct business in the industry.
lol at people who think MS has a chance.....MS had a year head start, was cheaper all last gen and ps3 still caught up. x1 does not ave any of those advantages nor sony having a terrible launch year. PS is too big WW, xbox is the US only console, and it's even losing there. PS3 caught up due to Europe, Japan....xbox does not have such luxury.
Stop calling this a war, we are not enemies. It is a shame that some so called journalist continue to promote this and add more fuel to the fire.
It's always been referred to as the console wars..
Hence the quotations. It's a term of reference.
Thank you, exactly this.
Microsoft? some kinda cake?
I can see them at second place, but it won't beat the PS4.
I couldn't are less. I have all three nextgen consoles and so far and X1 gets most of my time, Wii U gets the second most of my time, and PS4 gets the least of my time. I know others have different preferences, but all I care about is MS keeps doing what they are doing...
sony would have to f*ck up BIG TIME in order to lose the lead they have now. they would essentially have to stop making games(first-party) and deny all multi-plats for the next year for that to happen.
- Make a new console on equivalent specs or better than PS4's - Build in a rechargeable battery like PS3/PS4 Controllers - Remove Parity Clause - Be nice to indie developers - Allow Cross Platform gameplay between PS4 and Xbox - Have new console focus on gaming instead of being a HTPC - Remove fee from hosting patches - Remove paywalls from Xbox Live Gold - Allow developer to make what they want (MS killed Rare) - Actually redesign D-PAD like PS4 so it's good for fighting game - Have an equivalent price to performance ratio - Include 3 months of Online with Console - Include Headset with Console - Apologize to fans for E3 2013 - Play fair
- Build in a rechargeable battery like PS3/PS4 Controllers The xbox controller should just come with the play and charge kit, i actually like being able to replace the rechargable battery if it stuffs up or for a quick swap if the rechargable battery goes flat while playing
LOL! They couldn't beat Sony with the first bullet point. Once the system is released, its released. How many developers would work on a system with zero install base? Compared to one with 10 or 15 million? This situation makes more sense for them to wait for Next gen to pull such a move. I don't even think the specs are the issue. MS needs more new IP and for gods sake they need to trust them. The issue regarding MS losing all 3 gens has MORE to do with whats been selling MS systems for all 3 gens. Halo. Fable. Forza. Last gen we got 4 Halos, 4 Forza's and 4 Gears Of War. What this means is.....if you don't like those 4 games...don't bother with MS. They've put themselves in a situation where they've let the fans think they KNOW what MS and XB gaming is all about. ie if you played Halo on XB ,Fable on XB, Forza 1 etc, you might still have that VERY SAME impression about the MS brand, thus won't buy a system if you didn't have a good time. Why not mention Crackdown? Why not mention Too Human etc? Well...how many really bought 360's in MILLIONS because of those ips? Those IPs are not that bad, but they are not by any means huge sellers based on limited support or lack there of. New IPs are hard to sell to any consumer base, lets face it..established IPs are a easy sell. But what they do to the gaming industry regarding brand recognition, is they let consumers "assume" they know what the IP is all about. ie..if you didn't like Halo, Forza, Fable then...your not really likely to like it as time goes on. Why is PS beating Nintendo and MS EVERYGEN? Well, look at those releases. Did like Spyro or Crash. You might like Jak and Ratchet or Sly Cooper. Didn't like those? Well you might like Resistance, InFamous or Uncharted (mind you...you'll still get those older ips anyway) Didn't like THOSE? Well you might like The Last Of Us, The Order etc. What they've done is make consumers a fan of THE DEVELOPER before the IP.
THUS, you don't really KNOW a PS IP EVERYGEN. You may not like some of Sony's IPs one gen...but that won't be the case EVERY SINGLE GEN. THAT is why PS4 is at 10 million. Most fans have the trust that new IPs will keep coming as Sony released on of the best selling new IPs last gen with The Last Of Us (around 7 million units thus far) and Beyond 2 Souls. Even til the VERY END. That level of trust and quality with new IPs is why many get PS systems by default based on they likely won't have the same level of experience with IPs as they did the gen prior. We can still get GT7, God Of War, Uncharted 4, The Last Of Us 2 and so on, but Sony takes pride in making new IPs every gen to keep gamers from "thinking" they know what a PS system will entail the next gen regarding games. One only needs to look at last gen to see what MS and Nintendo are likely to release and support. ie Mario Kart ,Smash, Zelda etc(at least Nintendo is trying with the Xeno team) MS with Forza, Halo, Fable, Gears etc. I can assure you, those 4 games will get the bulk of releases JUST LIKE THEY DID THE LAST 2 GENS IN A ROW! THAT is something MS needs to break and right now because they will fail next gen faster if they don't start making people see the brand outside of their favorite 4. Love Motorstorm, Love GT, Love God Of War. Doesn't mean I don't want Driveclub, The Order or The Last Of Us. They don't need to get rid of em, but they can't just be releasing ONLY those 4 ips, 4 games a gen and expect new comers.
I just don't see Microsoft ever beating Playstation.
1. Major update to play all Xbox 360 game son Xbox One. Huge advantage over Sony 2. Invest in First Party studios and games. Buy Remedy and let the studios make games they want to make. there is a huge list of ips that would be great this gen 3. Stop being strict with Xbox Live. MMOs are huge on consoles now
1. Make something besides Halo 2. Make something besides Forza 3. Make something besides Fable
They're making Phantom Dust :)
Yup...for how long? Fun fact. Perfect Dark got 1 release last gen. Kameo...new ip, got 1 release last gen. Too Human....got 1 release last gen. Halo Forza Gears All got 4 releases each. They don't need to merely "make" something else, they need to FULLY SUPPORT SOMETHING ELSE with the same level they've been supporting those other ips. IPs fail all the time, hell look at Lair, Heavenly Sword etc. But the ones that do well, InFamous, Uncharted, The Last Of Us, Motorstorm, LBP etc, reward them with future support. Sorry but since XB1, MS has YET to EVERY fund a team to create a MSGS game that went beyond 4 titles a gen as a new ip. That is very much a fact. Sony has done that....every damn gen. Sony's main teams have produced new ips pretty much every gen like clock work. and fyi MS didn't own Gears Of War until very recently, they merely published those games prior. On XONE will be MSGS very first fully owned Gears release. Thus...they've never from the ground up, made a new ip that got the same support long term as any of there ace teams.
buy sony/nintendo buy every publisher and developer buy buy buy
Apparently they think Mojang will win them the war.. lol clearly they are beyond clueless!
Fire Greenberg or whatever his name is, because everytime he speaks out, he comes as one arrogant simpleton. give Phill a little bit more power for business decisions so he can invest in more first party exclusives. Finally lower the price of the Xbone to $349.99 for maximum competition
do what nintendo been doing with the 3ds>new 3ds ASAP
I know what they need to do... Build a time machine
Gen 9 maybe.
They wont win the console war. PS4 is unstoppable now. We all know how deadly playstation can be when they have momentum. but we will see for sure at the end of this year how people will react to halo MCC and Sunset overdrive and that COD bundle and im leaning towards xbox one breaking PS4 sales win streak this fall only in usa NPD because of COD bundle and halo MCC if PS4 outsells it even with those two things then LOL PS4 is officially the new PS2.
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